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I hope that Elhokar matures. Brandon likes playing with fantasy stereotypes, and one fantasy stereotype is the irredeemably spoiled young king. Dalinar cares enough about helping Elhokar grow up that it better happen. Dalinar is kind of the man.
I hope to learn more about Renarin (I believe that's his name--Dalinar's son). There's obviously some importance to him, what with his interactions with Wit and such. Definitely a character to come into his own.
I hope for the really tall Parshendi Shardbearer to become more of a force in the narrative, interacting more with Dalinar. Interesting, mysterious figure.
I hope that the story is set in another interesting city/location, a lot like how the Wheel of Time took the characters from one major city to another. They talked quite a bit about that one city naturally built around the windblade rock formations that rose in its center -- something's gonna happen there, soon.
Szeth the Surgebinder is off to go kill Dalinar, whose new head bodyguard is Kaladin...the Surgebinder. Mistborn Reloaded, anyone?
Obviously, Shallan's older brother isn't dead. Or if he isn't dead, he left a long, mysterious trail of clues/information.
Jasnah was quite defensive of King Taragavarariawhateverhisface. For being one of the smartest people in Roshar, you'd think she would know something about him. Is Jasnah evil, and involved with King Traraggvvaiean?
Also, some reveals as to the origins of the Shattered Plains, a closer look at the heart of the place, some reveals as to the gemhearts true purposes.
What are y'all's hopes/predictions?
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I didn't see Elhokar as an irredeemably spoiled young king. Sure, he's uber paranoid, but he's about the same as all the rest of the Alethi highprinces, in my book. Dallinar appears to be working on him, so there's a good chance you'll see the growth you were talking about.
I want to see Szeth vs. Kaladin. Adolin in the mix with his Shardblade wouldn't be bad, but Szeth vs. Kaladin for sure.
Anything at all to do with Shallan's backstory. She's by far the most interesting viewpoint character, in my opinion (though not necessarily the most fun to read. And I guess I shouldn't say by far, because Szeth takes a really close second).
If we're lucky, we might get some movement away from the Shattered Plains, though that doesn't seem too likely as Jasnah and Shallan are supposedly going there to meet up with everybody, so I think we'll likely have a massive get-together before everyone goes their separate ways.
I really want to know more about the Heralds. They're way more interesting to me than the Radiants. Hopefully, we'll get some of this from Talenel, who isn't dead.
I hope the Parshendi Shardbearer is killed, but I want him killed by Szeth. I don't know why. Just kind of a wishful thought.
I'd love to find out more about how the Old Magic works, and what it's capable of. Anything Brandon wants to give us about the cosmere is of course welcome.
I want to know what Hoid is up to.
I want to see Shallan use her Shardblade.
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Szeth would wipe the floor with Kaladin. Kaladin will have to do a lot of testing and practicing before he figures out what he can do, let alone refines it.
I can see Szeth going for Dalinar while Kaladin is trying not to use his powers in front of or any lighteyes. Szeth will wound Kaladin, count him out but not finish him off because he doesn't want to kill unnecessarily, and Kaladin will surprise him with fast healing/primitive Surgebinding. Enough to maybe drive Szeth off, but nothing serious. Kaladin will learn from Szeth's moves.
Would like to see more of Renarin too.
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My highest points on the wish-list are more Kaladin/ Former Bridge Four awesomeness, more Hoid/Cosmere stuff, and more cool magic.
I hope Kaladin never gets a Shardblade. He's far too interesting with the spear to start using a Shardblade (even though not having one would eventually be a disadvantage).
More information on Odium would be great. I'd like the various storylines to tie together a bit. Sure, they're loosely tied now, but I almost felt like I was reading two completely different books at some points.
Chasmfiends are awesome, so if we get to see another one down the line, no complaints from me!
Szeth is awesome, and I really hope he gets away from Tarv eventually. I'd like to see him redeemed somehow, but if he has to be a bad guy, I can handle that, too.
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What I want to have happen is that when Jasnah and Shallan meet up with everyone at the Shattered Plains, we cut down the time we spend there and establish some new plot threads somewhere else in the world, maybe get the viewpoints of the characters we saw only in Interludes in WoK?
I think Kaladin with his Surgebinding and spear could take on a Shardbearer, and it might not be a good move for him to take a Blade, since he's already so good with the spear and has zero sword training.
I'm curious to see if Adolin hangs onto his Shardblade or tries to give it to Dalinar. Though I think Dalinar is going to move into more of a strategist/leader/in-charge kind of role and let his so do more of the fighting. Also want to see if Dalinar keeps having visions.
Hoping to learn a ton about the Shadesmar next book through Jasnah and Shallan's Soulcasting training.
More Cosmere/Shard info.
Maybe getting a Parshendi POV, that would be so cool.
I want to get a little more into Taravangian's head, see what his plans are his motives behind them.
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I think the Parshmen might be a type of Spren. It would fit with the near-mindlessness, for one thing.[/wild theory]
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I want to see a Parshendi Shardbearer pushed to the limits of their abilities. Think about it, if regular Parshendi can jump chasms that human Shardbearers won't dare, how epic must Shardplate enhanced Parshendi be.
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Aside from everything else that has already been mentioned, because it's all stuff I'd also like to see, the only thing I can really add is some more information about the Parshendi.
Specifically, some more answers to the question of what causes the Parshman aka Voidbringers to turn into Parshendi and begin a desolation. The initial chapter that opened the book seemed to imply that this Oathpact that the Heralds belonged to seemed to be linked to it, but that could be pure conjecture on my part. A simpler theory is that the Parshmen/Parshendi's extremely passionate responses to their dead being 'defiled' maybe had something to do with it.
The other wild theory that I have is that Surgebinding might have something to do with it. Throughout the book it was mentioned a few times that it was a long forgotten magic/ability, maybe lost since the Radiants left the world. In one of Dalinar's visions, I think it was when he spoke with Nahodan (sp?), a Surgebinder was mentioned as making the Desolation worse, though it was by his actions rather than his powers. I don't know... I think maybe Szeth might have inadvertently had something to do with it. Maybe whatever caused him to become "Truthless" had something to do with it? (speaking of which, I'd love some back story about that too :D)
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I mostly want to know more about the Shin people. I mean Szeth is my favorite character. I want to know more about his people and their culture. What made Szeth the way he is now? I hope he is a main PoV character next book and not just an interlude character.
I want to know more about the Fabrials. Obviously normal Soulcasting is done using a Fabrial, but the type that Jasnah and Shallan use is not. They only use the gems for power, but not the Fabrial itself for anything.
More about the effects of the Shardblades. Like the fact that Szeth's makes his eyes turn light colored when he summons it, but only his does that.
How the Shardplate works. It's somewhat described, but we don't learn any good details about its interworkings.
I want to know more about the Dustbringers have. Also the true powers of Surgebinders. In the prelude we hear that They can blast out huge sections of the ground.
The list of things I want to know just keeps going, and I'm sure when the next book comes out I'll just have more and more questions to add to the list.
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How the Shardplate works. It's somewhat described, but we don't learn any good details about its interworkings.
Well, we know that holding in Stormlight accelerates the healing process. It's possible Shardplate does something similar to the body.
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I don't think the shardplate enhances the body, I think it's more of an armored exoskeleton type thing. After all, when the armguard on Dalinar's plate breaks, the unattached gauntlet becomes dead weight. It's the same reason they put shardplate on from the bottom up, because it is the only thing that supports its own weight.
I'm looking forward to Jasnah and Shallan's arrival on the Shattered Plains, more Szeth POVs, and more Kaladin and hopefully a Renardin POV. Hopefully some of the mysteries will have enough revealed about them that we can make educated guesses.
I wonder if Renarin will remind Kaladin of his brother at all, their personalities seemed a bit similar to me. Except, I'm pretty sure Renarin is of age or older than Kaladin. I'm not looking forward to more Kaladin flashbacks, but I think we have only a few left to deal with (Tarah).
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i am excited for a szeth and talenel meeting, i suspect that once they meet szeth drops the whole truthless thing and helps kaladin reform the surgebinders
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I want to see Kaladin use his Surgebinding and have everyone freak out when his eyes turn light.
I'm looking forward to more information from Taln. He'll know about Dawnblades, the Oathpact, the Heralds, how Surgebinding works, the Voidbringers, and (probably) Odium/Bavadin. It'll be interesting to see how much we learn from him.
I'm interested to see how the Ghostbloods and Thaidakar are developed. Supposedly they're responsible for an attempt on Jasnah's life, Shallan's father was a member, the Shardbearer that Kaladin killed was one of them, Brightlord Amaran opposes them, and Gavilar thought they were so interested in his black sphere that they'd try to assassinate him with a Shardbearer.
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I want to see a Parshendi Shardbearer pushed to the limits of their abilities. Think about it, if regular Parshendi can jump chasms that human Shardbearers won't dare, how epic must Shardplate enhanced Parshendi be.
The book says shardplate makes the users' physical strength rather moot. Hence, old men and sick boys can be terrifying dreadnaughts when dressed in shardplate. So perhaps it wouldn't be that super.
One thing that's been itching at me: Szeth is the only person with a small shardblade. Perhaps he's already completed his cycle, merged entirely with his spren (or something), and been granted his own shardblade instead of inheriting it. If so, then it probably creates a blade based on what you desire in a weapon. The original shardblades from the Radiants were very large because they desired a weapon capable of severing limbs coated in several feet of rock skin. If Kaladin gets this treatment, it's quite likely to be a spear.
Butkaladinwillgetadawnshardinstead.
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That would be cool. I would love to see Kaladin with a Shard Spear. It just doesn't seem right to force him to use a sword when he is already so good with a spear. A Dawnshard spear would be even better. All though I kind of wish shard weapons could be made less lethal sometimes by there wielders. After all sometimes you don't want to kill your opponent.
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One thing that's been itching at me: Szeth is the only person with a small shardblade. Perhaps he's already completed his cycle, merged entirely with his spren (or something), and been granted his own shardblade instead of inheriting it.
I seem to remember one of Szeth's point-of-views stating that he was burdened with the Shardblade by his people, which made me interpret it was they made him take it.
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i always thought that different orders of the radients would use different kind of weapons, so it makes sense that there would be some smaller sword out there, and maybe there are other kinds of weapons out there somewhere, spears bows that sort of thing
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I want to see spren!! And more from Interlude viewpoints
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I hope that Elhokar matures. Brandon likes playing with fantasy stereotypes, and one fantasy stereotype is the irredeemably spoiled young king. Dalinar cares enough about helping Elhokar grow up that it better happen. Dalinar is kind of the man.
Jasnah was quite defensive of King Taragavarariawhateverhisface. For being one of the smartest people in Roshar, you'd think she would know something about him. Is Jasnah evil, and involved with King Traraggvvaiean?
Elokhar has some kind of power, perhaps similar to Jasnah. There's no way the faces in the mirror he's scene with narrow faces are a figment of his imagination.
I think she probably knows about his crazy ethunasia program, how else would she be so convinced that the world's on the brink of disaster. I don't think she knows of his involvement with the assassin.
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Wow. I have a lot! I don't expect most of these to completely play out in Book 2 (It would be even longer than the first one!) but I do hope they at least get addressed as the series progresses.
1. Taravangian: I'm wondering about his connection with Odium.
2. Absolutely Kaladin vs. Szeth. I foresee this becoming an ongoing rivalry.
3. I got a little too excited when I had this thought: Shallan and Adolin! It makes total sense!
4. The epigraph letter is totally by Hoid (sorry non-believers). The 17th Shard are the men looking for him--I can't wait to see more of them--and they are definitely from Sel. No way would Brandon use the word "kayana" by accident.
5. I was wondering if Shallan's Memories might be connected to/ the same thing as the Almighty's picture journal thing. Dalinar mentions that the visions are some sort of journal, and I'm thinking they are a very advanced form of Shallan's Memories; the Almighty does say that most of the visions are ones he has seen directly and the rest of borne out of his fears. I'm thinking he took Memories of those visions and then projected them into the future/past/whenever.
6. It was mentioned somewhere on the forums that Odium visited Sel before the events of Elantris. I can't believe no one has made the connection yet, but hello: Odium caused the Reod! My guess is that his killing Skai and Aona was what created the Chasm and therefore the fall of Elantris.
7. This is a tall order, but I'd like a scene from Hoid's POV. Better yet, I'll wait a few years so Brandon can write a book specifically about Adonalsium with Hoid as the main character! Oh, my goodness gracious. I think I'll go get in line for that book right now!!!
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7. This is a tall order, but I'd like a scene from Hoid's POV. Better yet, I'll wait a few years so Brandon can write a book specifically about Adonalsium with Hoid as the main character! Oh, my goodness gracious. I think I'll go get in line for that book right now!!!
We already got a scene from his POV. Did you read the last chapter?
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7. This is a tall order, but I'd like a scene from Hoid's POV. Better yet, I'll wait a few years so Brandon can write a book specifically about Adonalsium with Hoid as the main character! Oh, my goodness gracious. I think I'll go get in line for that book right now!!!
We already got a scene from his POV. Did you read the last chapter?
Oh, yeah! Oops. :) I guess for some reason I didn't feel like there was enough there. It was mostly just his speech. I wish there would have been more internal monologue. I really want to know how he thinks.
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7. This is a tall order, but I'd like a scene from Hoid's POV. Better yet, I'll wait a few years so Brandon can write a book specifically about Adonalsium with Hoid as the main character! Oh, my goodness gracious. I think I'll go get in line for that book right now!!!
We already got a scene from his POV. Did you read the last chapter?
Oh, yeah! Oops. :) I guess for some reason I didn't feel like there was enough there. It was mostly just his speech. I wish there would have been more internal monologue. I really want to know how he thinks.
I don't think that's gonna happen, since he knows way too much. It would spoil a lot of the plot.
Remember how Vasher's scenes in Warbreaker said almost nothing of what he thought?
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7. This is a tall order, but I'd like a scene from Hoid's POV. Better yet, I'll wait a few years so Brandon can write a book specifically about Adonalsium with Hoid as the main character! Oh, my goodness gracious. I think I'll go get in line for that book right now!!!
We already got a scene from his POV. Did you read the last chapter?
Oh, yeah! Oops. :) I guess for some reason I didn't feel like there was enough there. It was mostly just his speech. I wish there would have been more internal monologue. I really want to know how he thinks.
I don't think that's gonna happen, since he knows way too much. It would spoil a lot of the plot.
Remember how Vasher's scenes in Warbreaker said almost nothing of what he thought?
Yeah. That's why I'll be waiting for him to get his very own book, and put all of this theorizing to rest. I realize it probably wouldn't happen for 20+ years... but here's to hoping.
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A Szeth vs. Kaladin fight would be super cool. I worry of course that Szeth may kill Dalinar but, I really don't see that happening. Maybe just some paranoia from my time reading George R.R. Martin. That man uses his characters like kleenex. I really want to see the rising of the new Knights Radiant. When that was mentioned in the book I got goose bumps! I really look forward to seeing what happens between Hoid and Talenel. Oh hells, I just want the second book out now!!
AMM
Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination.
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Szeth and Kaladin are almost certain to fight in the next book. But like someone said earlier, Szeth will wipe the floor with him. At least in their first fight. Szeth has been doing this for a lot longer, and has a Shardblade. Even if Kaladin were properly trained and experienced he still is simply not as well armed.
Hey maybe we will see if stormlight can heal Kaladin's arm after Szeth kills it with his blade..
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I want Kaladin's father to turn up at the Shattered Planes as a surgeon, and for Kaladin to reunite with him, maybe learning more about being a surgeon under him for old times sake.
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I think if Kaladins father shows up it will come along with a really sad story, and i think someone else deserves to have something sad happen to them now, maybe Jasnah
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I agree with most everything that was said, so I'll just focus on one point: CAN I GET SOME ROMANCE PLEASE? hehe Ok, so there was SOME in book 1, but it wasn't satisfactory. I'm happy for Dalinar and all, but Shalan's didn't really end well...I wish that guy was still alive--his character is so interesting.
I agree with the Shalan/Adolin thing--except I can't decide who I want her to be with. Maybe Renarin? (a love triangle would be sad, but interesting) Maybe Kaladin? That'd be interesting with his hatred of lighteyes. I'm not really interested in learning of Kaladin's long lost love--Tarah or whatever. I certainly don't want her to come into the story. I don't know why--she just didn't seem interesting. Especially since he didn't even think of her until the end of the book. lol She couldn't have been TOO important to him. "Tien, Tien, Tien...oh yeah Tarah..." I'd be more interested in that girl he was childhood friend with who married the old guy--by far.
I loved book 1 SO much, but Brandon's romances are always SO good--he's very talented at that...
PS If Szeth kills Dalinar, that'd be the worst thing ever. :(
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I don't think Szeth will kill Dalinar. I heard somewhere that Brandon is plaining for Dalinar to be the main PoV character for one of the books, and his still unsure of whether it will be the second or third book, which means he obviously hasn't planned for Dalinar to die anytime soon. Even if he was the main character of the second book, if Szeth killed him he would be dead in the prologue, which wouldnt make much of a story lol.
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5. I was wondering if Shallan's Memories might be connected to/ the same thing as the Almighty's picture journal thing. Dalinar mentions that the visions are some sort of journal, and I'm thinking they are a very advanced form of Shallan's Memories; the Almighty does say that most of the visions are ones he has seen directly and the rest of borne out of his fears. I'm thinking he took Memories of those visions and then projected them into the future/past/whenever.
Projected them into the future?
I think it is more -ahem- mundane than that.
My theory is that The Origin of storms contains a larger part of The Almighty that "leaks" a part of his power in the form of highstorms, and was imprited with his memories.
Sort of like a supernatural answerinng machine.
Which is the reason why the visions repeat themselves after a while.
I also think that spren are a part of the "mental" component of the Almighty, and that they need humans to channel the "spiritual" power which is the Stormlight.
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I wouldn't count Kaladin out of the fight with Szeth. He has taken the Oath whereas Szeth presumably has not. He has experience fighting (and beating) shardbearers. He can already use two of the three Lashings, and has time to learn the Basic Lashing (which is, ironically, the best for combat). And, he may well have other surgebinders on his team.
That's my hope for book 2. I want at least some of Bridge 4 to be able to learn Surgebinding. I really think that group will be the seed of the restored Knights Radiant.
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Oh and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE more Sigzil. :-*
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I really want to read Sigzil's reaction when Kaladin told him what Wit/Hoid said about his apprentice. When nothing happened I was like boooo.... :(
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A Szeth vs. Kaladin fight would be super cool. I worry of course that Szeth may kill Dalinar but, I really don't see that happening. Maybe just some paranoia from my time reading George R.R. Martin. That man uses his characters like kleenex. I really want to see the rising of the new Knights Radiant. When that was mentioned in the book I got goose bumps! I really look forward to seeing what happens between Hoid and Talenel. Oh hells, I just want the second book out now!!
AMM
Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination.
Dalinar = Ned, Sadeus = Lord Bailish? ;D
If GRRM had had a hand in the last plateau-assault, Dalinar would now have to bury one of his sons...
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I really want to read Sigzil's reaction when Kaladin told him what Wit/Hoid said about his apprentice. When nothing happened I was like boooo.... :(
Same here. :-/
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Untill one of the interviews told us that Dalinor is going to be the main character of a future book which may or may not be the next book I thought that we had a high likelihood of Szeth killing Dalinor (Adolin could take his role), but Szeth's encounter with Dalinor pretty much has to happen in the next book, and if Dalinor may be the main character of it, or if not will be the main character of a future book, that sounds like his death is not going to happen soon.
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A Szeth vs. Kaladin fight would be super cool. I worry of course that Szeth may kill Dalinar but, I really don't see that happening. Maybe just some paranoia from my time reading George R.R. Martin. That man uses his characters like kleenex. I really want to see the rising of the new Knights Radiant. When that was mentioned in the book I got goose bumps! I really look forward to seeing what happens between Hoid and Talenel. Oh hells, I just want the second book out now!!
AMM
Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination.
Dalinar = Ned, Sadeus = Lord Bailish? ;D
If GRRM had had a hand in the last plateau-assault, Dalinar would now have to bury one of his sons...
If GRRM has written that passage, they probably would've lost and Elohkar would have been killed by his wife that was having incest with the her twin brother, so then Dalinar would come in all high and mighty to fix things and also end up without a head.
Lol I love GRRM, he has a way of writing that no other fantasy author can recreate. His books are dunked in realism and set alight, so that all characters slowly burn. It is awesome, but thank the Almighty this doesn't happen in WoK. Books can get depressing when cool characters die. I dont want that to happen here. :(
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A Szeth vs. Kaladin fight would be super cool. I worry of course that Szeth may kill Dalinar but, I really don't see that happening. Maybe just some paranoia from my time reading George R.R. Martin. That man uses his characters like kleenex. I really want to see the rising of the new Knights Radiant. When that was mentioned in the book I got goose bumps! I really look forward to seeing what happens between Hoid and Talenel. Oh hells, I just want the second book out now!!
AMM
Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination.
Dalinar = Ned, Sadeus = Lord Bailish? ;D
If GRRM had had a hand in the last plateau-assault, Dalinar would now have to bury one of his sons...
If GRRM has written that passage, they probably would've lost and Elohkar would have been killed by his wife that was having incest with the her twin brother, so then Dalinar would come in all high and mighty to fix things and also end up without a head.
Lol I love GRRM, he has a way of writing that no other fantasy author can recreate. His books are dunked in realism and set alight, so that all characters slowly burn. It is awesome, but thank the Almighty this doesn't happen in WoK. Books can get depressing when cool characters die. I dont want that to happen here. :(
...Because Brandon Sanderson doesn't kill off cool characters?
Kelsier, Vin, Elend, Clubs, Hrathen, and Lightsong would like a word with you.
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A Szeth vs. Kaladin fight would be super cool. I worry of course that Szeth may kill Dalinar but, I really don't see that happening. Maybe just some paranoia from my time reading George R.R. Martin. That man uses his characters like kleenex. I really want to see the rising of the new Knights Radiant. When that was mentioned in the book I got goose bumps! I really look forward to seeing what happens between Hoid and Talenel. Oh hells, I just want the second book out now!!
AMM
Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination.
Dalinar = Ned, Sadeus = Lord Bailish? ;D
If GRRM had had a hand in the last plateau-assault, Dalinar would now have to bury one of his sons...
If GRRM has written that passage, they probably would've lost and Elohkar would have been killed by his wife that was having incest with the her twin brother, so then Dalinar would come in all high and mighty to fix things and also end up without a head.
Lol I love GRRM, he has a way of writing that no other fantasy author can recreate. His books are dunked in realism and set alight, so that all characters slowly burn. It is awesome, but thank the Almighty this doesn't happen in WoK. Books can get depressing when cool characters die. I dont want that to happen here. :(
...Because Brandon Sanderson doesn't kill off cool characters?
Kelsier, Vin, Elend, Clubs, Hrathen, and Lightsong would like a word with you.
Vin, Elend and Lightsong die at the end of the book and are usually wrapped up in a way that is usually very comforting, like there better off. Ned dies near the end of the first book with seven to go, seven long long books, and he is not the only cool character to die so early in the series. With the exception of pretty much Kelsier, all Brandon's characters die at the end, and there deaths feel like they meant something.
Sorry but when Ned died I was like, well he didn't really get much done. They killed him as soon as he tried to do something.
But this is all besides the point. Both authors are fantastic. Both having amazing books. But I wouldn't want GRRM to write Brandon's books and vice-versa.
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I agree with the Shalan/Adolin thing--except I can't decide who I want her to be with. Maybe Renarin? (a love triangle would be sad, but interesting)
A Shallan/Adolin/Renarin love triangle would be an interesting parallel to the Navani/Gavilar/Dalinar love triangle in the backstory... I don't know if I could see Shallan and Adolin together though. I'd like to see more of Renarin in general - he's an interesting character.
I hope Shallan gets the next book. She's probably my favorite character, and I really want to find out what happened with her father. I also want to see more of Jasnah. And I want more Bridge Four.
I think Dalinar will die or be taken out of the action at some point in the series, so that Adolin will be forced to take on his responsibilities.
My wild theory: I think that Adolin's current girlfriend is some sort of spy.
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I can definitely see a Shallan/Adolin relationship blooming. Whether it will be like a Vin/Elend thing with Renarin (or someone else) being the spook equivalent. Personally i would rather Adolin liking shallan (for some unknown reason he actually has feelings for her, instead of her just being the next interesting thing which seems to be his take on woman) and shallan liking Renarin, but Renarin doesn't want to go against his brother, which would create alot of tension.
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I want Shallan to somehow die. Hate me. And I know it won't happen.
Through reading the book I couldn't help loathing the person she was.
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I suppose this is pretty terrible for a reader of fiction, but the only thing worse than love triangles for me is love triangles involving siblings.
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she could fall in love with Kaladin, that would be more appropriate wouldnt it? i doubt that either of Dalinars kids are going to fall in love with their cousins student
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It would be cool if he (GRRM) would write a Blurb for the series though, lol.
Okey, back on topic.
I would like to read more about the Voren religion.
And Jasnah learning that she was both wrong and right at the same time will be PRICELESS! :)
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I think it would be nice to know what the black sphere that gavilar had was, or where it is, or anything about it really
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It would be cool if he (GRRM) would write a Blurb for the series though, lol.
Okey, back on topic.
I would like to read more about the Voren religion.
And Jasnah learning that she was both wrong and right at the same time will be PRICELESS! :)
I'm---interested---to see how Jasnah responds to Dalinar's visions.
It kind of puts a different spin on "God is dead," though, I'll give you that.
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I wouldn't count Kaladin out of the fight with Szeth. He has taken the Oath whereas Szeth presumably has not. He has experience fighting (and beating) shardbearers. He can already use two of the three Lashings, and has time to learn the Basic Lashing (which is, ironically, the best for combat). And, he may well have other surgebinders on his team.
That's my hope for book 2. I want at least some of Bridge 4 to be able to learn Surgebinding. I really think that group will be the seed of the restored Knights Radiant.
Kaladin is dangerous no doubt about it. But Szeth is a friggin killing machine. Lets not forget that Gavilar was considered one of the best swordsman alive, and Szeth took him down. The he took down what 3? 4? Full Shard bearers at once? I suppose it depends on the time line we are talking about. If Kaladan actually gets trained then I expect to see a serious battle on par with Drizzt vs Artemis
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I disagree with all of you, Kaladin will easily beat Szeth because he will cheat, i am hoping he will develop pepperspray to help the rest of bridge four to fight against shardbearers, and when Szeth shows up he will get a big ol' blast of Mace!
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No no no.... Rock, with his culinary expertise, will invent Pepper spray. Kaladin will just use it! :D
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I, personally, am holding out for both Dalinar and Kaladin having powers by the time Szeth comes to call. They may both be untrained, but the element of surprise for Szeth would be very high.
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and it doesnt matter how good Szeth is, there is no way he coud get to Kaladin, Talenel will beat the tar out of him
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and it doesnt matter how good Szeth is, there is no way he coud get to Kaladin, Talenel will beat the tar out of him
If Taln is around.
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I agree. I can' t see Szeth beating Kaladin. They're both awesome fighters and Szeth has the advantage by a long shot, but Kaladin has the surprise element(big one), Thrill, teamwork, and I was under the impression that Kaladin is a better fighter. Szeth is also an awesome warrior, but if we were to drop it to the two of them with regular sword and spear, I want to believe Kaladin would win.
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Where else would Taln be? out looking for the rest of the heralds? he needs to deal with a desolation, so naturally he would be around the king and the minister of war, the two people Kaladin needs to protect
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Where else would Taln be? out looking for the rest of the heralds? he needs to deal with a desolation, so naturally he would be around the king and the minister of war, the two people Kaladin needs to protect
In prison, for heresy?
Who's gonna believe that a darkeyed guy who came out of nowhere is a Herald?
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Well, there is his sword for evidence. Also, I expect Hoid would do something to help him.
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I tend to think that one of the 10 people in all of the world chosen to become an immortal warrior who battles against the armies of a dark god is probably resourceful enough to deal with the local magistrate.
Just sayin.
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I tend to think that one of the 10 people in all of the world chosen to become an immortal warrior who battles against the armies of a dark god is probably resourceful enough to deal with the local magistrate.
Just sayin.
I think that even an immortal would be incredibly disoriented after 4500 years of torture.
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I tend to think that one of the 10 people in all of the world chosen to become an immortal warrior who battles against the armies of a dark god is probably resourceful enough to deal with the local magistrate.
Just sayin.
I think that even an immortal would be incredibly disoriented after 4500 years of torture.
If they put him in jail he'll just summon his sword, break free and stomp up to the castle to speak to the man in charge, who unfortunately is in the Shattered Planes.
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My hope/prediction/wild theory? Hoid turns out to be a Time Lord.
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My hope/prediction/wild theory? Hoid turns out to be a Time Lord.
Hoid is the Doctor! :o
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Kaladin is dangerous no doubt about it. But Szeth is a friggin killing machine. Lets not forget that Gavilar was considered one of the best swordsman alive, and Szeth took him down. The he took down what 3? 4? Full Shard bearers at once? I suppose it depends on the time line we are talking about. If Kaladan actually gets trained then I expect to see a serious battle on par with Drizzt vs Artemis
Ew. Salvatore's "spin like a top with swords in hands" fight scenes. I'd prefer to think "on par with Kelsier vs the Steel Inquisitor."
Szeth's good, and has a huge edge against Kaladin. But... Kaladin killed a man with shardplate and shardblade. Wth ordinary weapons. That's absolutely insane.
And it certainly would be cool if Taln's the reason none of the main characters kill each other. Szeth sure would be surprised to fight someone who understands his lashings likely as well as he does. Bonus points if shardblades can't harm him (Stonesinew's the name, and all that). That'd be a shock to Szeth.
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Ew. Salvatore's "spin like a top with swords in hands" fight scenes. I'd prefer to think "on par with Kelsier vs the Steel Inquisitor."
Meh, I was talking more about the skill of the combatants involved and less about the skill of the authors. ;)
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Szeth versus Kaladin is going to be interesting, Szeth is going to be shocked to run into another Surgebinder, and he's probably never fought anybody as good with a spear as Kaladin is.
It also depends on whether Kaladin figures out the Basic Lashing before Szeth gets there, since that's really the most useful for combat stuffs. Also the coolest.
I don't think either of them will be killed, and I don't think Dalinar will either, something will happen to interrupt their fight before that happens. Maybe Talanel will.
Also, I'm looking forward to Kaladin and Shallan meeting...
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Everyone focuses on Szeth vs Kaladin because they're both Windrunners, but how about Szeth vs Jasnah instead?
That fight would go rather differently for Szeth.
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The only way Jasnah would win that is if she caught Szeth by surprise. She'd never be fast enough to get him otherwise. He would be on her before she had a chance to do anything.
Also, Szeth is too cool to die. At least that soon.
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Everyone focuses on Szeth vs Kaladin because they're both Windrunners, but how about Szeth vs Jasnah instead?
That fight would go rather differently for Szeth.
The other reason everybody focuses on this fight is because Szeth was just sent to assassinate Dalinar. Dalinar just employed Kaladin to be his bodyguard. It's not hard to speculate where that might be headed. Of course, we could be surprised, and knowing Brandon, it would be an even better plot than what we're imagining. But it's a very natural fight to expect.
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True, but remember, Jasnah and Shallan are going to the Shattered Plains too.
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That Szeth's honorstone will turn out to be a fabriole of sorts...a prison in which his HonorSpren has been bound.
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The only way Jasnah would win that is if she caught Szeth by surprise. She'd never be fast enough to get him otherwise. He would be on her before she had a chance to do anything.
Also, Szeth is too cool to die. At least that soon.
Are you sure about that (the question of speed and surprise, not that Szeth is protected by his position in the plot)?
Jasnah can turn a man into fire without touching him, and I don't recall anything that suggests you can dodge a Soulcasting. Against a group of attackers (well, supernaturally enhanced attackers like Szeth) I think Jasnah might be in trouble, but one on one... I don't know.
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I for one appreciated the (general) lack of romance in this book, this series certainly would not benefit from any unnecessary hookups or love triangles. With that said, I thought Shallan's brief flirtatious scenes with Kabsal felt really awkward and out of character. Navani was a disappointment, I thought she'd be as interesting as Jasnah but all she ever did was to seduce and distract Dalinar. I sure hope she'll be more developed later on rather than seen just as a romantic interest.
The reveal about King Taravangian really did not sit well with me. Felt too forced to elevate a rather minor character all of a sudden to the big bad brain of the operation. Another thing that need to be rectify in the future.
Food for thought: Is Shallan potentially the most powerful of all of the characters we've seen so far? She has a shardblade and can soulcast. Granted she has no training in either, but having both abilities certainly gives her an edge. Szeth is probably the only person on par since he also has a shardblade and can surgebind.
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i've only just really gotten into Brandon's work,
Way of Kings was my first and Mistborn book 1 is my second,
haven't read anything else but am damned impressed by him!!!!
well right off the bat i want to know about the Dawnshards - are they the shardblades of the heralds? because in the prelude a line states "these Blades were weapons of power beyond even Shardblades. these were unique. precious."
And more on the Dawnsingers (who supposedly created everything on Roshar as far as i understand it) and the Dawnchant.
was the Almighty a Dawnsinger? is Odium one also just gone bad?
we all know the Almighty is dead since he tells Dalinar odium killed him in one of the visions that the Almighty seems to have left inside the magical stormlight inside Highstorms and Dalinar sees them every Highstorm.
also somewhere in WoK (dont ask me which page) it is mentioned someone else gets these visions so that implies Dalinar isn't unique... so maybe Dalinar is a descendant of the radiants just like Kaladin but of a different Order...
only problem is Dalinar doesn't have an honorspren like Kaladin has in Syl... and on that subject i want to know all the orders and their powers and i want to know about Honorspren?
it seems Jasnah and Shallan are some kind of Radiants because they can Soulcast without a Soulcast fabrial, but they have those puzzle-headed spren i'll call "Soulcaster spren"
near the end of the book Elhokar also mentions seeing these Soulcasterspren in the mirror or out the corner of his eye, which is why he's so paranoid about assassins.
also honorspren seem to have a default type when not bound to a radiant, Syl starts off as a windspren until she is bound to kaladins honorability and binds him with the powers of Surgebinding and i assume windrunning, (only cos Szeth says that he is a surgebinder and windrunner somewhere)! so if a firespren is actually a honorspren does the radiant it binds get firepowers? etc?
did the radiants lose their light and powers because they somehow lost their honor and so their honorspren left them powerless? maybe thats why modern shardplate doesnt glow - no spren magic?
So the parshmen/parshendi are supposedly the voidbringers, so does that mean they wait for the Desolations Odium sends and then use their telepathic communications to all rise up and kill humans? or do they start the Desolations and summon those Shadowhounds and thunderclasts with Stormlight magic?
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just read someone elses post,
they said they want to see the Herald returned Taln fight Szeth cos he'd understand the Assassin in whites powers...
maybe he would understand them but i think Taln represents a different set of powers, he probably founded the only other Order of Radiants mentioned in WoK the Stonewards, so i think Jezrien (who the Alethi call Stormfather) probably founded the Windrunners/Surgebinders since Jez is the lord of winds...
so Taln would know of Szeths wind-powers but not necessarily be able to stop them...
He is a Herald but the Heralds continuously died in the hundred or so desolations and returned to their torment in the fiery pits where i'm guessing Odium awaits the final desolation...
so Heralds can be killed, they just come back every desolation.
now just a guess but i think the Almighty created the races of man and Odium created the Voidbringers/Parshmen and couldn't share Roshar so they made the Oathpact, whereby Odium would send the desolations with all the monsters and cause the parshmen to rise up and kill mankind and in return the almighty got to choose ten Heralds to come forward each time and lead mankind in the fight to survive... but each victory they had to go back into torment by Odium until the next desolation.
Also im dead certain Hoid/Wit is one of the Heralds who forsook the Oathpact maybe lost their powers but stayed immortal... maybe Kalak since the book starts with Kalak and Jezrien and ends with Hoid and Taln... bit of symmetry for you...
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Nah Hoid isn't a Herald, he's a worldhopper, he shows up in most of Brandon's books.
We don't know why he's apparently immortal.
check out the stickies for more on the Cosmere (the underlying universe behind all Brandon's adult books)
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I really want to see everybody intersect at the same time. Szeth shows up to fight Dalinar, but Kaladin gets in the way of that, and as their battling Jasnah and Shallan show up and offer the aid of their Soulcasting abilities. Oh, and maybe Amaram can show up just in time to watch it all :)
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I really want to see everybody intersect at the same time. Szeth shows up to fight Dalinar, but Kaladin gets in the way of that, and as their battling Jasnah and Shallan show up and offer the aid of their Soulcasting abilities. Oh, and maybe Amaram can show up just in time to watch it all :)
The only thing I can think in response to that is "The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills."
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I really want to see everybody intersect at the same time. Szeth shows up to fight Dalinar, but Kaladin gets in the way of that, and as their battling Jasnah and Shallan show up and offer the aid of their Soulcasting abilities. Oh, and maybe Amaram can show up just in time to watch it all :)
The only thing I can think in response to that is "The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills."
The only thing I can think of is "You forgot about Talanel". To make it truly epic, he needs to walk into the middle of things.
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I really want to see everybody intersect at the same time. Szeth shows up to fight Dalinar, but Kaladin gets in the way of that, and as their battling Jasnah and Shallan show up and offer the aid of their Soulcasting abilities. Oh, and maybe Amaram can show up just in time to watch it all :)
The only thing I can think in response to that is "The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills."
The only thing I can think of is "You forgot about Talanel". To make it truly epic, he needs to walk into the middle of things.
The fact that, as of the end of TWoK, I have a mental picture of Talenel as just kind of wandering around Roshar in a bewildered, clueless haze, should give you some idea of just how hard I'm laughing at this thought.