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Title: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: jrh1524 on July 01, 2010, 04:09:50 PM: So, after reading the annotations and the summaries of some of Brandon's interviews, we have a good idea of what the next Mistborn Trilogy is going to look like.

Here's a summary of what I've gathered so far:

1. The next trilogy will be set either 500 or 1000 years after the end of Mistborn #3
2. Brandon plans to complete two books in the Stormlight Archives universe then write a book based in another universe (maybe a Mistborn Sequel book), then repeat the pattern
3. The main character will burn Necrosil (someone who can cause duralumin effects in others by touching them and burning Necrosil)
4. Sazed will still be god
5. Marsh and TenSoon will still be around
6. Even though at the end of Mistborn #3 there were some teasers that Sazed may try and bring Vin and Elend back, this will not happen

My Thoughts:

1. I really would like to see Vin again in the sequel trilogy. I know it may not make story-wise sense to bring her back, but I really enjoyed her character. I would be satisfied if one of the characters in the new book is a descendant of Vin and Elend, but alas this cannot happen.
2. Hopefully the descendants of some of the other characters show up. I'm sure Breeze, General Demoux (spelling?) and Spook married their sweeties and had children.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Comatose on July 01, 2010, 05:06:55 PM: He said Marsh MIGHT concievably come back. He never said he would. I suppose that would depend on whether he has enough Atium (most of it is gone remember, how long can what's left last), and whether or not Brandon wants him around.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 01, 2010, 07:09:39 PM: Brandon will probably write the WARBREAKER sequel and the ELANTRIS sequel (and likely a few other books) before starting the second Mistborn trilogy.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Miyabi on July 01, 2010, 07:13:41 PM: Gosh, it needs to be way in the future so I can read these books. xD

Love reading sequels.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Obsessiforge on July 01, 2010, 07:13:53 PM: It'll probably be a while - I'd say its best to wait and see. In the meantime there shall be plenty of other material to read.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Miyabi on July 01, 2010, 07:15:00 PM: Quote from: Obsessiforge on July 01, 2010, 07:13:53 PM
It'll probably be a while - I'd say its best to wait and see. In the meantime there shall be plenty of other material to read.

I understand why, but I am not excited for next year only getting a WoT book. :( It makes me sad.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 01, 2010, 07:51:22 PM: Oh, you'll probably get SOMETHING next year. Just not an adult fantasy/cosmere book.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Obsessiforge on July 01, 2010, 10:02:34 PM: Mr. Ahlstrom is stroking the fires of our anticipation. I only hope that his foolhardy actions will not result in a towering inferno that sets us all ablaze with...anticipation.

Only YOU can help prevent Wild Fires!

(http://fly4change.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/d834smokey-bear-only-you-posters.jpg)

That is all.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Miyabi on July 01, 2010, 10:48:13 PM: Quote from: Peter Ahlstrom on July 01, 2010, 07:51:22 PM
Oh, you'll probably get SOMETHING next year. Just not an adult fantasy/cosmere book.

=o

Yay for YA!
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: WrittenOnTheStars on July 01, 2010, 11:14:28 PM: I'm gonna call it here and say large-scale business romance story between two rival CEO's or a deep secluded mystery book about thievery and thriftery.

Haha, jk. :)
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on July 02, 2010, 12:45:21 AM: My brother and I are antsy for the Elantris sequel (he threw a fit when he finished and I told him as of yet it was a stand alone)
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Obsessiforge on July 02, 2010, 05:32:49 AM: Well I think it'll be some time before we know for sure, eh?
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on July 02, 2010, 06:59:32 AM: Quote from: Patriotic Kaz on July 02, 2010, 12:45:21 AM
My brother and I are antsy for the Elantris sequel (he threw a fit when he finished and I told him as of yet it was a stand alone)

Heh... so did I. I didn't read Mistborn when it first came out because of it (though that was more because of forgetfulness).

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3. The main character will burn Necrosil (someone who can cause duralumin effects in others by touching them and burning Necrosil)

Hmmm, methinks it is Nicrosil. Necrosil sounds like Necromancers would use it.

Which, admittedly, would be pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Fireborn on July 02, 2010, 07:18:59 AM: It's spelled Nicrosil, yes. I have them memorized. (Am I crazy for listing off the allomantic metals in a very specific order whenever I go up or down the stairs of my home? There are 16 steps! It's too good a setup to pass over!)

Didn't Brandon also say something about a Mistborn serial killer? I think he might have been inspired by one of his podcasting buddies.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on July 02, 2010, 08:01:17 AM: Quote from: Fireborn on July 02, 2010, 07:18:59 AM
It's spelled Nicrosil, yes. I have them memorized. (Am I crazy for listing off the allomantic metals in a very specific order whenever I go up or down the stairs of my home? There are 16 steps! It's too good a setup to pass over!)

You aren't. I have my framed Table of Allomantic Metals right above my computer ;)
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Obsessiforge on July 02, 2010, 08:02:09 AM: Quote from: Fireborn on July 02, 2010, 07:18:59 AM
It's spelled Nicrosil, yes. I have them memorized. (Am I crazy for listing off the allomantic metals in a very specific order whenever I go up or down the stairs of my home? There are 16 steps! It's too good a setup to pass over!)

Didn't Brandon also say something about a Mistborn serial killer? I think he might have been inspired by one of his podcasting buddies.

he did? Darnit, I'm trying to write a book about a magical serial killer right now...and I've already been influenced by Sanderson enough! why is it so difficult to be original in this world?!
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Fireborn on July 02, 2010, 08:18:16 AM: Too many people, so many ideas flying about that most of them overlap in some fashion or another.

But, Chaos, that's a passive thing, I do the stairs thing consciously (mostly anyway). Iron steel tin pewter zinc brass copper bronze chromium nicrosil aluminum duralumin cadmium bendalloy gold electrum. Bases before alloys, external before internal, physical mental enhancement temporal. I think I might be OCD like that.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Obsessiforge on July 02, 2010, 08:25:00 AM: Quote from: Fireborn on July 02, 2010, 08:18:16 AM
Too many people, so many ideas flying about that most of them overlap in some fashion or another.

But, Chaos, that's a passive thing, I do the stairs thing consciously (mostly anyway). Iron steel tin pewter zinc brass copper bronze chromium nicrosil aluminum duralumin cadmium bendalloy gold electrum. Bases before alloys, external before internal, physical mental enhancement temporal. I think I might be OCD like that.

Yeah, probably a bit OCD. But you're my hero for it.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Ari54 on July 02, 2010, 11:43:51 AM: Quote from: Peter Ahlstrom on July 01, 2010, 07:51:22 PM
Oh, you'll probably get SOMETHING next year. Just not an adult fantasy/cosmere book.

Should I get my chalks ready? :)
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Valkynphyre on July 02, 2010, 03:28:47 PM: Quote from: Chaos2651 on July 02, 2010, 08:01:17 AM
Quote from: Fireborn on July 02, 2010, 07:18:59 AM
It's spelled Nicrosil, yes. I have them memorized. (Am I crazy for listing off the allomantic metals in a very specific order whenever I go up or down the stairs of my home? There are 16 steps! It's too good a setup to pass over!)

You aren't. I have my framed Table of Allomantic Metals right above my computer ;)

Definently not alone. I've sketched out the Table of Allomantic metals, and by detecting patterns within the known metals, gave feruchemical and hemalurgic properties to all of them. Looking forward to finding out where I was wrong and where I was right.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on July 02, 2010, 03:29:43 PM: Quote from: Ari54 on July 02, 2010, 11:43:51 AM
Quote from: Peter Ahlstrom on July 01, 2010, 07:51:22 PM
Oh, you'll probably get SOMETHING next year. Just not an adult fantasy/cosmere book.

Should I get my chalks ready? :)

Ohhhh I certainly hope so.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Link von Kelsier Harvey XXIV on July 02, 2010, 04:08:20 PM: Yes! Me like chalks! PLEASE give us an excuse to use our chalks!
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Wolfstar on July 02, 2010, 10:23:01 PM: Quote from: Chaos2651 on July 02, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: Ari54 on July 02, 2010, 11:43:51 AM
Quote from: Peter Ahlstrom on July 01, 2010, 07:51:22 PM
Oh, you'll probably get SOMETHING next year. Just not an adult fantasy/cosmere book.

Should I get my chalks ready? :)

Ohhhh I certainly hope so.

I'm thinking probably lenses (I've still only read the 1st one!).
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Miyabi on July 03, 2010, 01:54:03 AM: Quote from: Chaos2651 on July 02, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: Ari54 on July 02, 2010, 11:43:51 AM
Quote from: Peter Ahlstrom on July 01, 2010, 07:51:22 PM
Oh, you'll probably get SOMETHING next year. Just not an adult fantasy/cosmere book.

Should I get my chalks ready? :)

Ohhhh I certainly hope so.

My chalks are the best.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Obsessiforge on July 03, 2010, 02:22:34 AM: what are these chalks you speak of? Is there another book I must read?
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Plasman on July 03, 2010, 03:05:44 AM: I believe they are refering to a book called Scribbler in which the magic has to do with chalk. if you dig deep enough through the forum you should be able to find the first few chapters, though of course they would be the first few chapters as of several years ago. Still, i think its very interesting and would be happy to read the rest of it.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: little wilson on July 03, 2010, 03:10:54 AM: I really hope Scribbler is next year. I loved that one. Immensely. And I really want to co-ref a certain duel that will take place....:)
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Link von Kelsier Harvey XXIV on July 03, 2010, 05:00:49 AM: If you go to Brandon's blog, Scribbler is one of the categories. Click on this, and it will pull up a list of every time he mentioned Scribbler in a blog post. You should be able to find the first three chapters.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Batchman on July 04, 2010, 07:09:17 PM: Looking forward to Scribbler, myself! Incredible beginning, even if likely to change a bit (to have changed a bit already?) in rewritings.

I'd also be quite happy to see it follow the Alcatraz books.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Valkynphyre on July 05, 2010, 05:55:49 PM: Either would be exceedingly awesome.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: KhyEllie on July 09, 2010, 03:54:32 AM: Quote from: Plasman on July 03, 2010, 03:05:44 AM
I believe they are refering to a book called Scribbler in which the magic has to do with chalk. if you dig deep enough through the forum you should be able to find the first few chapters, though of course they would be the first few chapters as of several years ago. Still, i think its very interesting and would be happy to read the rest of it.

I just read the chapters! AGH! How do I get more? Talk about a cliffhanger...
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Rezo on July 10, 2010, 05:50:36 PM: Well, about possible Mistborn sequel, I've got my own idea for the story. I think I already wrote it somewhere here, but I'll do it again.
So, I was wondering, if Atium returns to the world a long time after it's used, and it's growing in the Pits, maybe Larasium - which should follow the same rules, due to the balance on Scandrial - does as well? I think there are Larasium Pits somewhere in Mistborn's world, waiting for people to discover them.
That would fit the story, if the sequel would be set hundreds of years after all the atium and all the larasium have been burned. Imagine that! There are no Mistborn in the world, they are known only from legends, and suddenly, the chance to become one reappears, along with the deadliest of metals, atium.

Assuming that Larasium and Atium will both return to Scandrial, and assuming that someone, theoretically, may know this fact, we have the main plot for next Mistborn book ready.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Obsessiforge on July 10, 2010, 06:10:37 PM: WHich one is Larsium again? is that by any chance the "hey Elend, don't die, you can be a badass instead" metal?
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Rezo on July 10, 2010, 06:44:30 PM: Quote from: Obsessiforge on July 10, 2010, 06:10:37 PM
WHich one is Larsium again? is that by any chance the "hey Elend, don't die, you can be a badass instead" metal?
Yup, that's the one.
If you didn't read HoA, I'll write a short explaination...
There are two God Metals, Atium and Larasium, both coming from one of two godlike entities from Mistborn world, Ruin and Preservations. It's told somewhere in the book that consumed Atium returns to the world to be harvested from the Pits of Hatshin.
So, according to this rule, we can expect that Larasium also returns to this world after some time.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Wolfstar on July 10, 2010, 06:53:33 PM: Brandon has said that the sequel trilogy will most likely be set in a modern type setting and will involve a Mistborn serial killer, who is being hunted down by a SWAT-Team-esq group of Mistings.

Knowing Brandon, of course, in a twist it will be revealed that the Mistborn is killing bad people (my guess is that it will be people using Hemalurgy or something of the sort) and that there will be all kinds of plot twists within plot twists, haha. Just my guess.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on July 10, 2010, 07:12:41 PM: Quote from: Rezo on July 10, 2010, 06:44:30 PM
So, according to this rule, we can expect that Larasium also returns to this world after some time.

Only if Sazed decides to release some of it.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Rezo on July 10, 2010, 10:16:32 PM: Quote from: Chaos2651 on July 10, 2010, 07:12:41 PM
Quote from: Rezo on July 10, 2010, 06:44:30 PM
So, according to this rule, we can expect that Larasium also returns to this world after some time.

Only if Sazed decides to release some of it.
Maybe the process can go on without his knowledge/acceptance? I mean, balance is something even he can't change - the amount of Preservation and Ruin in the world is constant.
I know that it's a stretch, but it's one of the best theories I have for the next Mistborn possible plots.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on July 10, 2010, 10:20:44 PM: Brandon said specifically in the Hero of Ages Spoiler thread that there would not be atium anymore in the later Mistborn novels unless Sazed plans to release it.

I'd imagine that while Ruin and Preservation opposed each other, so Preservation could prevent Ruin from the atium, now that Sazed holds all the power, he can do whatever he pleases with it.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Mike on July 11, 2010, 01:53:37 PM: Since there was a person named Ati, and a person named Laras who bonded with shards, and the metal names are Atium and Larasium, I wonder if, now that Sazed has control of both shards, they will stop being produced, and instead there will be Sazedium. Swallow a pellet of that and see where the rabbit hole goes.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: happyman on July 12, 2010, 01:58:52 AM: Quote from: Mike on July 11, 2010, 01:53:37 PM
Since there was a person named Ati, and a person named Laras who bonded with shards, and the metal names are Atium and Larasium, I wonder if, now that Sazed has control of both shards, they will stop being produced, and instead there will be Sazedium. Swallow a pellet of that and see where the rabbit hole goes.

My guess? Instant demi-god.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Fireborn on July 12, 2010, 03:01:26 AM: I'd bet that Atium and Larasium would still exist, in addition to Sazedium. That'd be a trip.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Wolfstar on July 12, 2010, 03:40:50 AM: What I want to know is how holding the power for that long will change Sazed. If I remember correctly, the power of Ruin and Preservation had corrupted the minds of Ati and Leras toward the philosophy of their Shards. With Sazed possessing two powers, will they balance, leaving him fundamentally the same, or will he also become an altered personality?
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: rjl on July 12, 2010, 10:03:32 AM: If they were to perfectly balance in him that would turn him into a sort of do nothing guy wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: happyman on July 12, 2010, 02:45:37 PM: Quote from: Rhuan on July 12, 2010, 10:03:32 AM
If they were to perfectly balance in him that would turn him into a sort of do nothing guy wouldn't it?

No, not really. I mean, the power of Ruin is all about change. Preservation is all about doing nothing. So if they balance, my guess would be "Do something, but only when it's better than what came before." Kind of like how Sazed was able to remake and create using the two together at the end of HoA.

I've wondered about this before too. Holding two opposed powers seems like it should be much more healthy than just holding one, leaving room for the person holding them to still be there after all is said and done. I just hope there is no little imbalance left between their respective strengths in Sazed, because either one winning could be catastrophic.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Fireborn on July 12, 2010, 06:02:44 PM: Well, we're good then, cuz Sazed always was the most stable and balanced character. And the fact that he's a Feruchemist doesn't hurt either.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: happyman on July 12, 2010, 06:44:33 PM: Quote from: Fireborn on July 12, 2010, 06:02:44 PM
Well, we're good then, cuz Sazed always was the most stable and balanced character. And the fact that he's a Feruchemist doesn't hurt either.

My personal theory? That it would be impossible for somebody wasn't (inherently) a feruchemist to hold both powers. Feruchemy is the power of balance, the one that can handle both already. This is probably not an accident, but rather a deep expression of the nature of the powers in the universe.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Wolfstar on July 12, 2010, 09:27:10 PM: Yeah, I had wondered how was able to take both powers. I hoped it wasn't something as mundane as "He reached for them at the same time so one couldn't reject the other," but honestly, that was how it looked to me. Perhaps the Feruchemist answer is right, or maybe it was because he was the Hero of Ages, and as such was designed by Preservation to be able to hold both powers.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Terrisman243 on July 12, 2010, 09:36:25 PM: Doesn't it say that when Ruin and Preservation work together they create? It seems that Sazed would be alright with that.

Also, am I the only one that thinks that Sazedium just sounds a little funny?
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: Obsessiforge on July 12, 2010, 09:49:59 PM: I'm pretty sure Sazedium was a joke. Everyone knows that if Sazed invented an Allomantic metal, it'd be call Ithinkium.
Title: Re: Mistborn Trilogy Sequel *Spoilers*
Post by: happyman on July 12, 2010, 10:01:00 PM: Quote from: Wolfstar on July 12, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
Yeah, I had wondered how was able to take both powers. I hoped it wasn't something as mundane as "He reached for them at the same time so one couldn't reject the other," but honestly, that was how it looked to me. Perhaps the Feruchemist answer is right, or maybe it was because he was the Hero of Ages, and as such was designed by Preservation to be able to hold both powers.

These ideas aren't necessarily exclusive.

I'm guessing that the only kind of person who could be primed to have both powers would by be a Feruchemist, or possibly that someone who had been primed to have both powers would (by virtue of the priming) be a Feruchemist. Either way, it seems like the two would naturally go together.

Of course, there may be more to it than that. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have any further insight into how Sazed took the power. This seems to be only the smallest part of that.