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Local Authors => Brandon Sanderson => Topic started by: Xephyr on June 09, 2010, 02:58:55 AM
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First off, hey guys, I'm Xephyr, new here.
Anyways, for those who haven't heard:
http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/856/Mistborn-Movie-News
So we really don't have any information about the movie other than that it's going to be made, I want to hear your ideas and opinions on how we think the movie should be done.
If it falls through, who do you think should be cas as the major characters in the movie? I haven't seen anybody that has stood out enough to be like any of these characters, but I'm sure somebody here has. What do you think?
We need actors/actresses for:
Vin
Kelsier
Sazed
Dockson
Breeze
Ham
Spook
Clubs
Elend
The Lord Ruler
and obviously others
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I wouldn't get too excited... last I'd heard, the odds on Mistborn were way behind the odds on Alcatraz.
It's great that someone invested in the license, but that's not the same as entering pre-production.
Unless something has changed recently?
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Like I said, I don't know anything other than there's a company legitimately interested in making the movie. In a way, this is one of those books that I think just wouldn't work out as a movie, but if they're going to make it I might as well support it.
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To be honest, as I was reading the books I couldn't help but imagine what awesomely epic movies these books would make in the hands of a good director, producer and scriptwriter. They're such visual books that were almost meant to be put into a visual medium (if you have a look around the fan-art, you'll see what I mean). Of course, with any book-film translation, if done badly, it can ruin the movie. I think if they went for the angle Summit went on with Twilight (Staying so honest to the books, it's frightening) would be excellent, and I honestly wouldn't mind sitting through a 5 hour movie of Mistborn, but since that's not possible, I would just really like a good movie.
As to the casting? I'm absolutely stumped. Vin's and Kelsier's and Elend's shoes are very difficult ones to fill, and it would be a difficult movie for a 16 year old girl to film (think: ending).
But that's my two cents.
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What I'm worried about is since Paloppa pictures is such a new movie, will they have the budget for Mistborn. Some movies can go cheap on the special effects, but the special effects are such a central part of mistborn that there's no ignoring them, and they just have to be done right.
Ellen Page for Vin. She's an excellent actress, has the build and coloring, and she's Canadian, which is a definate plus.
I decided on her as soon as I heard there might be a movie. My friend thinks her face might be a bit too round, as she pictured Vin to have very angular features, which I agree with her on, but I think the many many pluses out-weigh the one bad side.
Google her.
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My brother would probably smack you for saying that being Canadian is a plus, but he's crazy so you're fine.
I'm not so sure, her stuff so far doesn't strike me as the right...mood for Vin? I'm not she's bad, far from it, I thought Juno was hilarious, but I just don't see her working as Vin.
I recommend Nathan Fillion as Kelsier, his acting dynamic of charming versus scary is spot on for Kelsier's dichotomic existence.
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As to the budget, I'm not sure what sort of money would be needed. You have the ash and the mist, which would probably be easy enough to do now that I think about it. And then you have the actual Allomancy, very few of which would require computer-generated effects (Atium, and Seekers--I can't remember the metal's name). I think that the city of Luthadel would have to be computer generated (like what they did with Hogwarts), and have all the different sections filmed in existing places. There's the inquisitors, which could probably be done with prosthetics and fake tattooing. BUt besides that, I think a lot of it can be done with wires and pulleys and greeen screen.
As to what sort of budget Pallopa is capable of, I don't know. It would really depend on the Producers, I think (if my understanding of the film industry is right...which it probably isn't).
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As to the budget, I'm not sure what sort of money would be needed. You have the ash and the mist, which would probably be easy enough to do now that I think about it. And then you have the actual Allomancy, very few of which would require computer-generated effects (Atium, and Seekers--I can't remember the metal's name). I think that the city of Luthadel would have to be computer generated (like what they did with Hogwarts), and have all the different sections filmed in existing places. There's the inquisitors, which could probably be done with prosthetics and fake tattooing. BUt besides that, I think a lot of it can be done with wires and pulleys and greeen screen.
As to what sort of budget Pallopa is capable of, I don't know. It would really depend on the Producers, I think (if my understanding of the film industry is right...which it probably isn't).
My understanding is that one studio develops the script and another does the actual filming, usually a much bigger studio.
Haha, you say all that stuff like it's easy when it's decidedly not. All of that takes millions of dollars to make happen at all, let alone well.
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I didn't mean to make it sound easy... :-\ I know it would take a boat-load of work and money, but after seeing what movies can be done with certain budgets, I definitely think it could be filmed and produced with a realistic budget.
As I said, though, I don't know a lot about the movie industry. What I think will take a tiny bit of money may take a million for them. For me, it's all compare-work.
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I know, but that's really what it sounded like.
I think we should have David Tennant or Christopher Eccleston in there somewhere in order to get the Doctor Who fans to come see it. Also because they're brilliant actors, but that's more beside the point.
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this has been pretty well discussed before here (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=4476.0), FYI.
(also, in another thread somewheres, but i dont remember where)
Edit:
Ah, found it. Here (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=7350.0)
There's probably been more that slipped under my radar, too, by now.
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Ellen page was also in x-men... not sure if that's a plus.
If you think she can't do serious though, watch Hard Candy... scary, but really good.
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I've always thought Summer Glau would make a good Vin. She's already proven she can do the "death dealing skinny girl" thing, and she would bring a huge cult following with her. (Myself included ;D)
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Ellen page was also in x-men... not sure if that's a plus.
If you think she can't do serious though, watch Hard Candy... scary, but really good.
Oh, yeah, Shadowcat, right?
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Yeah, that's right.
*very mild Hard Candy Spoiler (highlight to read):
"Death dealing skinny girl"->watch hard candy.
*End of Spoilers*
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I've always thought Summer Glau would make a good Vin. She's already proven she can do the "death dealing skinny girl" thing, and she would bring a huge cult following with her. (Myself included ;D)
And I. I adore Summer Glau!
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I think Kelsier was described as blonde in the books, but I've always imagined David Tennant in his role
(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/2400000/David-Tennant-david-tennant-2478523-1024-768.jpg)
(http://thefaust.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/tennant.jpg)
I think he could convey the charisma and the darkness very well
*So sorry for the massive images :-[ *
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Awesome pictures of DT are always appreciated.
I'm sure he could do the character, but I'm not sure I can see him wrecking Hazekillers with wild abandon. It's probably the fact that he played the (technical) pacifist doctor for four years that has me off balance on that point, though.
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Summer Glau just seems to old for Vin in my brain, I'm sure she could pull it off, but...
Still firmly on the Ellen Page Bandwagon, feel free to jump on!
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Summer Glau as Vin makes me happy. Hopefully that happens.
Also, David Tennant as Kelsier is a great choice - not one that I would have considered, though, before it was pointed out.
The only thing that would make it better than that is if Joss Whedon wrote/directed it, in which case Summer Glau would be a shoe-in, and we would also have all sorts of crazy Whedonverse actors. Hmm... Nathan Fillion for Kelsier? <laughs>
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I don't know about you, but I'm all for Nathan Fillion for Kelsier and Summer Glau for Vin.
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Yeah, I really think that would be brilliant. : )
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I love firefly a lot but i will be honest. Most of the main stars from the show have been thrown out as possible roles for Brandon's charecters and i so not think they are good choices. I hoe that most of the actors are new or really commited to the project.
That being said i do have favorite actors and i think that David Hewlett would be a good Breeze.
Ellen page is the first person mentioned that even begins to fill the role in my mind. Not that i see her as a prime candidate but she is a good idea.
i had origionally seen kelsier as christian bale but now i am unsure.
William Dafoe should be somewhere in all this.
There is one firefly charecter i could see fitting a role here.
http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Simon_Tam
could be the lord ruler.
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Oooh, now that's an interesting idea! If only Liam Neeson wasn't too old to play TLR... /sigh.
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I dunno... I would just always be wondering why he wasn't making out with Jewel Staite. ; )
No, I think that's a pretty good call, actually. I think that I'm going to read through those books again, and try to cast all the characters as Whedonverse actors. :) (probably not really... but it does sound kind of fun. I'm behind on the Wheel of Time, though... and I really want to get through TGS before The Way of Kings comes out.)
What if we had Michael C. Hall as TLR? I think that could work pretty well, too.
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i think that the only person liam could play is mayby docks.
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Physically, I like Ellen Page for Vin rather than Summer Glau.
Anyone else see Spencer Treat Clark as Elend?
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I could see Adam Sandler as Clubs.
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I could see Adam Sandler as Clubs.
I sure couldn't.I love firefly a lot but i will be honest. Most of the main stars from the show have been thrown out as possible roles for Brandon's charecters and i so not think they are good choices. I hoe that most of the actors are new or really commited to the project.
That being said i do have favorite actors and i think that David Hewlett would be a good Breeze.
Ellen page is the first person mentioned that even begins to fill the role in my mind. Not that i see her as a prime candidate but she is a good idea.
i had origionally seen kelsier as christian bale but now i am unsure.
William Dafoe should be somewhere in all this.
There is one firefly charecter i could see fitting a role here.
http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Simon_Tam
could be the lord ruler.
I disagree with you about the Firefly actors, because I think Nathan Fillion and Summer Glau do work. Fillion has the charisma for Kelsier. Granted, he'd have to work pretty hard to also be much darker than we are used to seeing him, but there's always the first episode of Firefly, which has him darker. He can do it.
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I could see Adam Sandler as Clubs.
I sure couldn't.I love firefly a lot but i will be honest. Most of the main stars from the show have been thrown out as possible roles for Brandon's charecters and i so not think they are good choices. I hoe that most of the actors are new or really commited to the project.
That being said i do have favorite actors and i think that David Hewlett would be a good Breeze.
Ellen page is the first person mentioned that even begins to fill the role in my mind. Not that i see her as a prime candidate but she is a good idea.
i had origionally seen kelsier as christian bale but now i am unsure.
William Dafoe should be somewhere in all this.
There is one firefly charecter i could see fitting a role here.
http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Simon_Tam
could be the lord ruler.
I disagree with you about the Firefly actors, because I think Nathan Fillion and Summer Glau do work. Fillion has the charisma for Kelsier. Granted, he'd have to work pretty hard to also be much darker than we are used to seeing him, but there's always the first episode of Firefly, which has him darker. He can do it.
Personality-wise, i think they're both fine choices, but physically, they don't seem to fit the part if you ask me. Fillion seems a tiny bit too beefy, and summer is too filled-out/curvaceous, if you ask me. Though, this could likely be taken care of between costuming, make up, etc.
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I agree. Nathan Fillion could never be Kelsier in my mind. Much too beefy, and he just doesn't have the right look in my mind, that of course is just the my personal preference though.
This is just a passing thought, one that won't come true, but I like Brad Pitt for Kelsier. After all, Mistborn was partially inspired by Ocean's 11.
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Nathan Fillion doesn't work for me, like others have said, because he just doesn't look the part. I'd imagined Kelsier as being slimmer. Can you see him doing flips and things like he would need to? I can't. And I have the same problem with Brad Pitt.
Since when is Summer Glau curvaceous? I'd always seen her as really thin. And I think she might be too tall. Vin is short in my mind.
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Since when is Summer Glau curvaceous? I'd always seen her as really thin. And I think she might be too tall. Vin is short in my mind.
Link (http://www.whedon.info/IMG/jpg/summer-glau-first-photoshoot-hq-03-1500.jpg) for decency's sake (not nakey, but 'sexy' photo). Notice the hourglass figure?
IIRC, vin was supposed to be able to pass as a boy. This is not the usual case with someone who has such a figure.
Granted, glau is not as "stacked", per say, which does help in this regard, though. They could easily just warp her chest down to fit the part, i would assume.
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Now, I realize we all understand this, but WOW.
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Um. In that shot she looks silly, airbrushed, and not hourglass (the curve on the right is from the angle—check out the left side). Aside from the silly posing, if she had short hair I could buy her as Vin.
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Um. In that shot she looks silly, airbrushed, and not hourglass (the curve on the right is from the angle—check out the left side). Aside from the silly posing, if she had short hair I could buy her as Vin.
Ok, then how about this one. (http://images.buddytv.com/articles/the-sarah-connor-chronicles/image/summer-glau.jpg) You can't tell me THIS one isn't showing her hourglass figure. It's straight on (maybe a little angled, but not enough to be able to deny it), no silly pose, and she's wearing tight-ish clothes so you can clearly see it.
Like i said, I think she has too much of a womanly appearance to be able to pull off vin.
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i love Firefly as much as the next scifi fanboy, but really, Nathan Fillion and Summer Glau are not right for every part! LOL
However: Sean Maher (aka Dr. Simon Tam) is Kelsier in my opinion (not the Lord ruler): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0536883/
Miranda Cosgrove could be a good Vin once her hair was chopped. (yes, she is iCarly and was the little sister on Drake and Josh) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1388927/
Lord Ruler, imho, could be none other than James Callis: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0130536/
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Ok, then how about this one. (http://images.buddytv.com/articles/the-sarah-connor-chronicles/image/summer-glau.jpg) You can't tell me THIS one isn't showing her hourglass figure. It's straight on (maybe a little angled, but not enough to be able to deny it), no silly pose, and she's wearing tight-ish clothes so you can clearly see it.
Like i said, I think she has too much of a womanly appearance to be able to pull off vin.
All right, but clothes do make a difference. And if we went back in time to age 16 I bet...anyway, she's rather old for Vin now. :)
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Ok, then how about this one. (http://images.buddytv.com/articles/the-sarah-connor-chronicles/image/summer-glau.jpg) You can't tell me THIS one isn't showing her hourglass figure. It's straight on (maybe a little angled, but not enough to be able to deny it), no silly pose, and she's wearing tight-ish clothes so you can clearly see it.
Like i said, I think she has too much of a womanly appearance to be able to pull off vin.
All right, but clothes do make a difference. And if we went back in time to age 16 I bet...anyway, she's rather old for Vin now. :)
That they do. Like i mentioned in my first post about it, it's possible that the magic of hollywood could take care of my issues with her and fillion through clever use of makeup and clothing, but i wouldn't know about that. I'm not in "the biz" :P
However, knowing hollywood, they wouldn't WANT to take care of these issues. These are seen as almost universally desirable at all times there :P
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i love Firefly as much as the next scifi fanboy, but really, Nathan Fillion and Summer Glau are not right for every part! LOL
However: Sean Maher (aka Dr. Simon Tam) is Kelsier in my opinion (not the Lord ruler): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0536883/
Miranda Cosgrove could be a good Vin once her hair was chopped. (yes, she is iCarly and was the little sister on Drake and Josh) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1388927/
Lord Ruler, imho, could be none other than James Callis: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0130536/
I dissagree with your Vin and the good docter could be kelsier (there are better choices.) However, you hit the nail on the head with TLR. I should have thought of that. Baltar is so fun to hate that he has to be the antagonist.
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for TLR, i honestly would think that someone large, and imposing would make a good choice. Which is why i think vin diesel would be a great TLR. He's big, imposing, can easily look the part of evil, and a relatively good actor.
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I always thought of the Lord Ruler as leaner as well, albeit well muscled. and remember, he's supposed to look surprisingly young. I had this problem in the books, I kept picturing a man in his thirties, but if you have access to eternal youth, why be thirty when you can be twenty one?
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for TLR, i honestly would think that someone large, and imposing would make a good choice. Which is why i think vin diesel would be a great TLR. He's big, imposing, can easily look the part of evil, and a relatively good actor.
I always thought of the Lord Ruler as leaner as well, albeit well muscled. and remember, he's supposed to look surprisingly young. I had this problem in the books, I kept picturing a man in his thirties, but if you have access to eternal youth, why be thirty when you can be twenty one?
If i remember he was young. He was also well cut and during the execution at the square scene i seem to recall him being a slim guy. He has so much power that physical prowess is not necessary. Also he is not to look evil so much as strained and tyranical.
looking a bit older than early twenties coud help re-inforce a godly image. He looks in his prime but not young.
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i love Firefly as much as the next scifi fanboy, but really, Nathan Fillion and Summer Glau are not right for every part! LOL
However: Sean Maher (aka Dr. Simon Tam) is Kelsier in my opinion (not the Lord ruler): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0536883/
Miranda Cosgrove could be a good Vin once her hair was chopped. (yes, she is iCarly and was the little sister on Drake and Josh) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1388927/
Lord Ruler, imho, could be none other than James Callis: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0130536/
I'm not sure about the others, but I really your pick for the Lord Ruler.
for TLR, i honestly would think that someone large, and imposing would make a good choice. Which is why i think vin diesel would be a great TLR. He's big, imposing, can easily look the part of evil, and a relatively good actor.
I always thought of the Lord Ruler as leaner as well, albeit well muscled. and remember, he's supposed to look surprisingly young. I had this problem in the books, I kept picturing a man in his thirties, but if you have access to eternal youth, why be thirty when you can be twenty one?
If i remember he was young. He was also well cut and during the execution at the square scene i seem to recall him being a slim guy. He has so much power that physical prowess is not necessary. Also he is not to look evil so much as strained and tyranical.
looking a bit older than early twenties coud help re-inforce a godly image. He looks in his prime but not young.
Really, I'm cool with a lot of different things when it comes to the Lord Ruler, as long as he doesn't look like Ra from Stargate, who literally looked like a boy.
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Miranda Cosgrove could be a good Vin once her hair was chopped.
no no no no. she cannot act and is no where near mature enough for the part.
i liked the idea of someone like Emily Browning playing Vin.
and isn't Kelsier supposed to be blonde? in my mind Viggo Mortensen fits the part very well.
And I like the idea of James Callis as the Lord Ruler. seems like a very good pick.
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I actually think Miranda Cosgrove is a very good actress. Just too.... peppy.... I think the look is about right though and she will learn everything else. The real trick is finding a girl who looks 15 to play the part.
I think Viggo Mortensen is too... "thick" ... - in my mind Kelsier is kind of a dandy type character. Think Dick van Dyke from Mary Poppins.
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I think Miranda's face just doesn't feel like Vin. Maybe it's that her mouth seems too wide, but something is off of that.
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guys! i know! i've got it!
Miley Cyrus for vin!
That edward guy from twilight for kelsier!
Johnny Depp for TLR!!
I'm a genius! Best movie evar! :D
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Yeah, ok, sorry :P
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Sure! and then we can have Jack Black for Hoid! That's brilliant! ;)
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My favorite was Lindsay Lohan for Vin, in the 'mist mini skirt' Priceless.
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I realize it's a joke, but I literally twitch when you do that. *shudder*
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My favorite was Lindsay Lohan for Vin, in the 'mist mini skirt' Priceless.
Best of both worlds: Lohan plays vin for half the movie, and cyrus for the second half of the movie.
Carrot top can be Ham.
Tom Cruise as Breeze.
Bono as Sazed
Who can we get Paris Hilton and Oprah to play as?
Oh, also, this thread is now about the ruination of the MB movies ;D
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/cry
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Obviously, Paris Hilton would be Shan.
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Obviously, Paris Hilton would be Shan.
Well, that might fit, actually. They're both spoiled, mean word-I-can't-says.
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Oprah.... hmmm.... Oh! How about Oprah as Ham's wife! It's perfect!
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Pssht. Oprah as Tindwyl.
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Pssht. Oprah as Tindwyl.
I agree.
On a more serious note, who to play Spook, esepecially if they do a trilogy. They need someone who is able to show all that development, probably some one who will actually grow up during the filming.
That's the nice thing about having a year between each book, and each book being a year long, if they do all three, they probably won't have to worry about actors ageing out.
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Justin Bieber for Spook. <gag> I can't believe I even got it down without losing my dinner.
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Justin Bieber for Spook. <gag> I can't believe I even got it down without losing my dinner.
You realize we are now going to have to sacrifice you atop a stack of those no good Brandon Sanderson novels, that are entirely too long, for your insolence.
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Justin Bieber for Spook. <gag> I can't believe I even got it down without losing my dinner.
You realize we are now going to have to sacrifice you atop a stack of those no good Brandon Sanderson novels, that are entirely too long, for your insolence.
You already sacrificed a Brandon Sanderson novel, Miyabi, no complaining ;)
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lol. That I did. That I did. This time however, we are not sacrificing a novel, we are sacrificing a person.
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We should ram paperbacks down his throat until he's dead. If he has words like that, we'll give him new ones, till there' s no room for the bad ones anymore...
I did chuckle however, before I became horribly offended. ;)
Please, don't say the dark one's name, ever again!
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Pssht. Oprah as Tindwyl.
I agree.
On a more serious note, who to play Spook, esepecially if they do a trilogy. They need someone who is able to show all that development, probably some one who will actually grow up during the filming.
That's the nice thing about having a year between each book, and each book being a year long, if they do all three, they probably won't have to worry about actors ageing out.
(hard to type using itouch)
I had thought it would be fun to audition for this one. I am old now but Hollywood tends to overlook a couple years. I seemed to remember
Spook being ektomorphic and about 6'3. Not like it will happen but a man can dream. As long as no people from twilight(ruin) get the part
of Spook I'll be happy. I had thought about auditioning for the part of sokka in airbender and then twilight people got it and I wanted to yell. Movie still has me pumped though. Anyway when I can I'll post a headshot to compare with Spook.
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Justin Bieber for Spook. <gag> I can't believe I even got it down without losing my dinner.
You realize we are now going to have to sacrifice you atop a stack of those no good Brandon Sanderson novels, that are entirely too long, for your insolence.
If you supply the outdated encyclopedias, I can bring in the cult of evil librarians...
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ALright, here we go. I actually thought of all of these the first time I read the book. Now I shall place them here.
so the format I'm using here is:
Character Name - Actor (Other performances)
Vin - Summer Glau (River Tam in Firefly, Cameron Phillips in the Sarah Conner Chronicles)
Kelsier - Robert Downey Jr. (Sherlock Holmes, Tony Stark/Iron Man, etc.)
Sazed - Mahershalalhashbaz Ali (Who I know personally and actually just told today to look into this role) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0991810/
Dockson - Hugh Laurie (AKA House, but with his Brittish accent)
Breeze - Eddie Izzard (Dressed as a man)
Ham - Gerard Butler (Leonidas from 300, dude from Gamer)
Spook - Anton Yelchin (Chekov in the new Star Trek)
Clubs - Rhys Davies (Gimli, other cranky old men)
Elend - Ryan Reynolds (...you know what? You'd know him if you saw him.)
The Lord Ruler - (Tentatively) Matt Damon (Bourne, other dudes)
and obviously others
well here are the others I nailed down:
Marsh - Hugh Jackman (Wolverine)
Yeden - Steve Coogan (Dana Marschz in Hamlet 2, Damien Cockburn in Tropic Thunder)
Shan Elariel - First reaction is Anne Hathaway (White Queen in Alice in Wonderland, Mia in the Princess Diaries) but this one's also tentative.
Anyways, that's what I've got. Whatchu guys think?
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Marsh - Hugh Jackman (Wolverine)
Best idea ever!
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Marsh - Hugh Jackman (Wolverine)
Best idea ever!
Well, I figure you stick him full of metal that makes him invincible ONCE...
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How would he look as a blond I wonder....
Great choice though, and Robert Downey Jr. and him could even play convincing brothers I think.
I like Ryan Reynolds for Elend, but he seems too old.
I also vote Anne Hathaway for Shan, either that, or for Mare in the flashbacks.
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Oh, there were a couple others from later books...
Tyndwil - Catharine Zeta-Jones
Ashweather Cett - Sean Connery (Charismatic with a dirty mouth? come on.)
Anybody have any ideas for Zane? because the best I could do was Vin Diesel...and that's just a terrible idea.
absolutely awful.
ALSO: A blonde Robert Downey Jr? Yes sir.
http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/2/20652/37_2007/robert.jpg
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I love the idea of Eddie Izzard as Breeze. and Anton Yelchin could be good as Spook, not my 1st choice, but the best I have heard so far.
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anybody got ideas for Spook? I said Anton Yelchin for his perfomance in Charley Bartlett, and because Checkov lead me to believe he has accent powers to wasing his way to the was of was been. has. do. was.
any ideas? I'm short on youngish actors these days
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I'd like to revise my earlier assessment. Nathan Fillion is out, Robert Downey Jr. is in. He'll nail the hardness, yet still pull off Kelsier's defiant smile.
It's perfect.
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I'd like to revise my earlier assessment. Nathan Fillion is out, Robert Downey Jr. is in. He'll nail the hardness, yet still pull off Kelsier's defiant smile.
It's perfect.
now THAT'S an idea i can get behind. Downey Jr. would make a GREAT Kelsier.
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I know. I can't believe I didn't realize it before.
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Holy crap. You're right about Robert Downey Jr. I won't give up on Nathan Fillion, though!
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I don't understand what you guys see in Nathan Fillion. I like the guy, but for Kelsier? Robert Downey Jr. has my vote as well,
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never shall I have shame in this revolution I've started. Looks like Robert Downey Jr.'s winning for Kelsier!
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I don't understand what you guys see in Nathan Fillion. I like the guy, but for Kelsier? Robert Downey Jr. has my vote as well,
This ^
I like Fillion, he's actually one of my favorite actors, but i can NOT see him as Kelsier. Though, he would probably do an AWESOME Ham.
Oh, and I LOVE the idea of eddie izzard as breeze. He would do great.
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Interesting question - who would play Reen?
He'd only really show in flashbacks and hallucinations, I guess, so the voice is more important than anything else. Any thoughts?
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Well, whoever plays Reen also has to play Ruin pretending to be Reen, so... someone versatile I guess. Depends on whether every time we hear Reen's voice it is actually Ruin (Which I think I remember hearing...it's not?)
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I think the voice she hears is distinctly her brothers, though the words are Ruin's. So at some point there would probably be a shift...at which point either James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman will voice Ruin. Or I will cry.
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I think the voice she hears is distinctly her brothers, though the words are Ruin's. So at some point there would probably be a shift...at which point either James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman will voice Ruin. Or I will cry.
WIN!
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Now, it also seems that there are two growing camps for Vin - Ellen Page and Summer Glau
I personally think either could do the role, as they've each done similar characters in the past (shy/nontrusting skinny girls who wear a lot of black and kick serious tail), what do the masses think?
let the frenzy (re) begin!
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I don't really know Ellen page, but Summer Glau is a tremendous actress who could play Vin perfectly.
ONLY problem is her age.
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I really can't see either of them in the part. Ellen just doesn't work and Summer is too old.
I have this really specific picture of Kelsier in my head, and RDJ is not it.
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well why don't you describe your specific image, perhaps we can work together to find the
program actor that fits your needs?
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Ellen Page all the way! From what I've seen of Glau, definately too old. I can maybe see her playing Hero of Ages Vin, but short-haired boyish Final Empire Vin? No way. Of course, by the time the movie actually happens, Page might be too old as well.
Nonetheless, she has my whole hearted vote.
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The funny thing about actors and actresses in the business is that they often play age ranges, not their specific ages. For instance, all the characters on the High School TV-drama "Gossip Girl" are well in their mid twenties, yet they're all playing 17 year olds. It happens.
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I'd never thought about Robert Downey Jr before. Great choice, non-believers should go watch Chaplin to be converted.
I don't know if anyone's suggested it, but what about Edward James Olmos for Clubs?
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Kelsier has long, kinda messy hair, he's skinny but muscular. With black eyes and a mischievous smile.
You know who kinda looks like what I'm thinking? Paul McGann. But with slightly darker hair. And maybe a bit thinner.
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I think of Sawyer from Lost.
http://muchmorethanmommy.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/sawyer.jpg
http://www.sugarscape.com/userfiles/sawyer-lost.jpg
played by Josh Holloway
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If he didn't annoy me, I'd say yes. Definitely.
I don't know why, but watching Lost, Sawyer always got on my nerves. Always,
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Was it the southern accent or the fact that he's kind of a jerk?
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Both.
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then I have the perfect solution for everyone:
Kelsier - Will Farrel
Elend - Seth Rogen
Sazed - Jonah Hill
Spook - Michael Cera
Breeze - Jack Black
Ham - Peter Molynieux
Dockson - Adam Sandler
Vin - Someone Seth Rogen shouldn't have a chance with.
A Judd Apatow film.
EDIT: Did I say Peter Molyneux? I meant Kevin James.
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Please. No.
Michael Cera could concievable be Spook, but he'd only work for book one, and I doubt he could pull of the dialect (as much as I love him).
That being said, I'm pretty sure (at least I hope) you are joking, so...
haha.
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oh I am. Joking, that is.
Obviously Steve Carrell would be playing Kelsier. Will Farrel? you kidding me?
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Kelsier: ryan reynolds
Vin:kristen stewart
Elend:shia lebouf or james marsden
breeze:jack black
spook: jesse eisenberg
ham: that guy who played viktor crum..lol
dockson: jeremy piven
sazed:?
zane: james franco
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Okay I hope you're joking too. Jack Black? This is supposed to be a (mostly) serious movie!
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also, Kristen Stewart? I'm pretty sure Vin has emotions at one point or another. And like...expresses them. srsly.
All in all that cast seems really young.
unless you ARE joking - I can't tell...
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Okay, ill give u jack black... maybe even ryan reynolds... I was just thinkng that he had kelsiers sense of humor.. and elend isn't THAT much older than vin... they could probably get keira knightley(spelling) to play vin.. I just couldn't think of a good fit for breeze.. maybe the bad guy from mission impossible three? The fat guy.. idk.. and I was thinking clubs could be mickey rourke.. I can't get'The Wrestler' out of my mind for this one.. but everyone else seems fitting..
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(Commenting on the earlier post about rober downey jr.) Does anyone in here believe that he will look right with blonde hair? From my understanding, kelsier is blonde.. oh and as for marsh, I was thinking about the guy who played wolverine's brother in xmen origins... he's really evil..
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(Commenting on the earlier post about rober downey jr.) Does anyone in here believe that he will look right with blonde hair? From my understanding, kelsier is blonde.. oh and as for marsh, I was thinking about the guy who played wolverine's brother in xmen origins... he's really evil..
Blonde hair is the sort of detail I wouldn't care is overlooked in order to get Kelsier's personality correct.
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The swagger fits, but RDJ seems a little old..
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He's 45. I don't remember Kelsier's age, but it certainly wasn't anything less than late 30's, I think.
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He's 45. I don't remember Kelsier's age, but it certainly wasn't anything less than late 30's, I think.
Yeah, im pretty darn sure Kelsier was supposed to be late 30's, but i could be wrong about that. I know he wasnt really young by any stretch.
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I think his hair could be dyed, someone even put a picture of him with blond hair up here somewhere. Once his gray hair is covered, and if you could him to shave, I bet he could pass for Kel's age.
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He's an actor of such dynamicism and raw acting prowess that he could pull off all the characters if I had my way.
Vin, Robert Downey Jr.
Elend, Robert Downey Jr.
Kelsier, Robert Downey Jr.
Teh lord rularr, RDJ,
etc. ad nauseum.
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He's an actor of such dynamicism and raw acting prowess that he could pull off all the characters if I had my way.
Vin, Robert Downey Jr.
Elend, Robert Downey Jr.
Kelsier, Robert Downey Jr.
Teh lord rularr, RDJ,
etc. ad nauseum.
I wanna see this movie. Seriously.
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@ Pewterarm - Kiera Knightly is probably too old, and definitely too emaciated.
I have, however, had a brilliant revelation:
Vin shall be played by the lovely and incredibly talented Ms. Megan Fox. There can be no other!
Elend, of course, will be played by Shia LeBouff. An extra scene will be added to the script so he has an excuse to run from something dangerous shouting his delightful catchphrase, "NONONONONONO!"
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So i have been watching the show sanctuary and there is an abundance of characters that could be in mistborn.
Christopher Heyerdahl as sazed
Peter Wingfield as Docks (or somebody)
Robin Dunne as Elend
Thoughts?
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Obsessiforge, you gotta stop. Please. I can't take such jokes any more.
Megan Fox?
I say all the actors for Mistborn should be chosen from the family channel. ;)
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you're right, I am starting to feel tired of stretching to find ways to ruin this movie. I guess its because deep down, I really really want it to not be ruined.
Its the sort of thing where it could go the way of the Lord of the Rings, and be a reflection of the books in a way that is very very good, or it could be like...Percy Jackson.
For the love of all things holy and crushingly unholy, Percy Lord-Ruler-Lovin' Jackson.
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I am sure percy jackson was a million times better than the last airbender.
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I was gonna mention that, but I wasn't sure if an adaptation of a beloved animated series was the same as a beloved novel series.
but if we were to widen the scope, I could say that Wanted was butchered in much the same way. On the other side of the spectrum is V for Vendetta, which was a fantastic movie based on a graphic novel.
I guess...I just want it to be good, you know?
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For Vin I personally like Mia Wasikowska. Resemblance to the characters as described in the books is not really important (acting skill is much more important) but I think she's got the basics. Skinny, boyish, young. Plus I think she can act rather well.
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I haven't seen airbender yet, but feel compelled too. I'm also dreading it. WHY???!!!
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I haven't seen airbender yet, but feel compelled too. I'm also dreading it. WHY???!!!
Just watch the first season while pretending it is live action. You will walk away much more satisfied.
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It's a curiousity thing. Like why people stare at train wrecks.
I have the season on dvd, so I'll probably just go with your suggestion afterwards to console myself.
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but, moving on from M. Night Shamallamaidingdong...
MEESTBWARN. I do believe this is the point in the proceedings where I open the canniest can of worms possible (for me at least).
Sazed
Now, he's my favorite character by a long shot, so I'm taking this one super super seriously. When I was reading the book I pictured him played by a friend of mine because he has a very similar personality in real life. His name is Mahershalalhashbaz Ali (yeah...we call him Ali) and he was on the 4400 for a while, he's done a bunch of TV stuff, he was in Benjamin Button (he was the guy who adopts the oldbaby) and he's gonna be in the new Predators movie coming out on friday (That big black guy you saw in the trailers? that's him)
anyways, that was my bid for Sazed. I told him he ought to look into the role once the project gets to that stage of development, but that's my own limited opinion. I'm curious to see if anyone else had someone in mind that they just HAVE to have play Sazed.
Anyone?
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Morgan Freeman.
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you don't think he's too old?
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BLASPHEMY!
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of course...how foolish of me.
:P :P
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Here's a question. Did most people picture the Terrismen as african-american? I didn't, but I've noticed several people, and not just on TWG have chosen black actors for the part of Sazed. Just because they are supposed to be northernors, I've always pictured them as overly pale, and if they were darker skinned, you'd think the Lord Ruler would stand out more. I don't know, I just thought it was interesting.
Also, Morgan Freeman's voice is too deep fro Sazed. Remember, he's a eunuch.
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for some reason I seem to remember just a single line saying he had dark skin. To be honest I can't even verify that its really in the book, as my copy is with a friend right now. But yeah, he had darker skin in my mind, or at least really tan skin. Could have been Indian, who knows?
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I don't go on forums much, but after seeing this thread I immediately registered for this site just so I can put my in my input.
Vin: I always pictured Q'orianka Kilcher, an unknown actress from the movie New World. She would fit Vin's quietness down to a T, but the only thing issue is physical appearance. http://horiwood.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/qorianka_kilchertwilightseclipse.jpg
Kelsier: Hugh Jackman (I think he would fit perfect for the role if he dyed his hair blonde.
Elend: William Moseley - Peter from Chronicles of Narnia
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That's funny because I suggested Jackman as Marsh - bond of brothers, eh?
It might be interesting to go with an alternate racial interpretation of Vin - if Shakespeare can do it, why can't we? I mean, she certainly looks like she could play Vin.
Peter from Narnia though - here I must take exception. You don't think he's too young?
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I haven't seen airbender yet, but feel compelled too. I'm also dreading it. WHY???!!!
Just watch the first season while pretending it is live action. You will walk away much more satisfied.
You're scaring me!! I was so hoping it would be good! :'(
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I always pictured Sazed as someone like Ben Kingsley.....
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I always pictured Sazed as someone like Ben Kingsley.....
http://www.canpages.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ben-kingsley.JPG
Sazed is pleased with your words, I think.
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Holy crap!
That's almost exactly how I pictured him. 0.0 'cept with no mustache.
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Wow...eerie. That is definately Sazed.
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That, ladies and gentlemen, is GHANDI.
I know they're easy to get confused though.
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Woohooo! Gahndi = Sazed!
Is the Ghandi apocalypse coming?
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I think that Neil and Mozzie (from White Collar) fit Kell and Dox really well:)
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who play them?
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Matt Borner and Willie Garson. I don't know how they look seperate from the show, so heres a look at them:
http://poptimal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/whitecollargal_04.jpg
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they certainly look like they have the dynamic down
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I've been stuck with Ellen Page as Vin for ages.
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There's a reason for that - Vin as portrayed on the paperback cover looks remarkably like Ellen Page
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I found the perfect Sazed- Paul Bettany
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I really like the idea of Paul Bettany as Sazed (he's got a great ability to sort of become the role, plus I loved him in Master and Commander).
Okay so this may seem a bit crazy but I think I have the perfect Kelsier. I seen posts for Robert Downey Jr., Nathon Fillion, etc. but I think Jensen Ackles http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/ would be a great fit. Seriously underrated. What do you guys think?
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I really like the idea of Paul Bettany as Sazed (he's got a great ability to sort of become the role, plus I loved him in Master and Commander).
Okay so this may seem a bit crazy but I think I have the perfect Kelsier. I seen posts for Robert Downey Jr., Nathon Fillion, etc. but I think Jensen Ackles http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/ would be a great fit. Seriously underrated. What do you guys think?
Looking at his list of what he's been in, i can seriously say I've never seen him in anything, as such, I am completely unaware of who he is or his quality of acting.
That being said, physically he looks like he could pull off the right look.
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James Franco as the Lord Ruler.
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James Franco as the Lord Ruler.
Man, those skaa uprisings are really getting me down, y'know...oh...jeeeesus I am so frickin' hungry! I could eat a whole koloss, man, spikes and all! man...being a god is hard work. I mean, whenever the man is getting me down I realize...I AM the man! think about that! woah....trippy dude...
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Yeah Jensen Ackles character from Supernatural has a lot of similarities, in my opinion, to Kelsier. I was trying to find a clip to exemplify this on youtube, but its hard to narrow down a character to one clip, especially if you haven't seen the show.
Anyway, this one goofy, but you get to see the guy in action. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYVilmnMFpY
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I've read the series twice and each time, I've totally thought that Ellen Page would make a great Vin. She has the body type and look that I would envision Vin to have. I've just seen Inception (which I loved) and I think Ellen is very good actress who can pull it off. Also, I loved the subtle chemistry between her and Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I wouldn't mind seeing him cast as Elend.
I've been a big fan of Ryan Reynolds since 2 guys, a girl and a pizza parlor. Way too old for Elend but might actually work for Kelsier although I've always thought of Kelsier as a younger, slightly uglier Brad Pitt.
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Ellen Page definitely came into mind for Vin. She is a very talented actress, especially note An American Crime (extremely creepy movie). But I have reservations in the more physical part of the role. I saw whip it and despite the efforts to make her seem ruthless, she kind of looks awkward. Vin is supposed to lithe and agile. Ah, but maybe I'm being to picky?
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You want ruthless, watch Hard Candy.
What do you guys think of starting a poll about how terrismen were pictured? I always pictured them as the same race as everyone else, perhaps paler, but many people seem to have pictured darker skinned, or even black.
Do you guys in the second camp also picture the Lord Ruler this way? And Peter, is it all right to ask how brandon pictured the races in Mistborn?
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Someone could ask him at a Q&A.
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You want ruthless, watch Hard Candy.
What do you guys think of starting a poll about how terrismen were pictured? I always pictured them as the same race as everyone else, perhaps paler, but many people seem to have pictured darker skinned, or even black.
Do you guys in the second camp also picture the Lord Ruler this way? And Peter, is it all right to ask how brandon pictured the races in Mistborn?
Yeah, i pictured them slightly paler. This is because they hail from a mountainous region to the north. being in colder, less sun-bathed regions does not generally produce darker skinned people.
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I always pictured them as darker, Indian or African in comparison...why is that?
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You want ruthless, watch Hard Candy..
Hard Candy...that's right, I forgot that Ellen Page was the main girl in that movie. I saw that before I was really familiar with her as an actress. Well I got to say, Comatose, that changes my opinion entirely. Thanks!
On the Terrismen subject, I agree with Eerongal completely and for the same reasons. A darker skinned person in a northern climate will have a harder time absorbing Vitamin D. Less Vitamin D means less calcium, which can lead to bone disease such as rickets. With this determinate it is unlikely that a dark skinned person would be selected for the type of northern region described in the book. Plus the Lord Ruler is described as being "Handsome, with jet black hair and pale skin, the Lord Ruler was tall, thin, and confident."
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Plus the Lord Ruler is described as being "Handsome, with jet black hair and pale skin, the Lord Ruler was tall, thin, and confident."
heh, i didn't even remember that.
Obviously, i agree that i think they'd be pale, for reasons previously mentioned.
However, i wouldn't look too much into the description of TLR, simply because he's really very much so a different animal from any other human. who knows what sort of weird things could have changed his physical body over the centuries.
That being said, though, as far as i'm aware, that's our only reference to any terrisman's skin color.
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Matt Borner and Willie Garson. I don't know how they look seperate from the show, so heres a look at them:
http://poptimal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/whitecollargal_04.jpg
Hey, the guy on the left was on Chuck! Could fit Kelsier, could do.
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Definitely Ellen Page for Vin. She really is a strong actress, and looks the part. Definitely NOT summer glau as vin. She is too old, even for the older Vin and even looks her age, and is not a strong enough actress IMO.
For Kelsier I'd say either Robert Downey Jr, or Simon Baker (the mentalist). Perhaps if we had Downey Jr's talent in Simon Baker's body, that'd be perfect ;)
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Terrispeople haven't always lived in the region they live in now, correct? TLR built his citadel where there were mountains, but turned them into plains. Apparently, Luthadel was difficult enough to reach pre-TLR that several people in the expedition died before arrival. Of course, some of them were killed, but to get back on topic... I think TLR forced them all to move up north when he took power. That's what I'm going to do to my family.
People can tell the difference between the nobles, Skaa, and Terrismen by sight. Not all Skaa can pass as nobles, but some can (just those with noble blood?). I don't remember seeing anybody mistake a Terrisman for anything else. Then again, they all dress funny and stuff. Just cast people that look similar enough for each race and it doesn't matter what was intended?
I have to stick to the Tennant-Jackman Kelsier-Marsh combo I suggested a while back.
OR!:
Kelsier will be played by Rand al'Thor (he already has stuff on his arms!).
VinGT will be played by Megatron (boyish figure and good looks!).
TLR will be played by the Ringworld.
Spook will be played by Dolly the Sheep.
Sazed will be played by a ball of yarn.
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Kelsier will be played by Rand al'Thor (he already has stuff on his arms!).
VinGT will be played by Megatron (boyish figure and good looks!).
TLR will be played by the Ringworld.
Spook will be played by Dolly the Sheep.
Sazed will be played by a ball of yarn.
I support these casting decisions. Make it so, hollywood. Do not disappoint me.
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Yeah, I was having trouble deciding between Ringworld and Ringworm, but I think I made the right decision.
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The terris stewards stand out partly because of their height and abnormally long limbs which comes from being a eunuch. Other than that, I think it is mostly their brightly coloured dress and body decoration (primarily the stretched ear lobes) that sets them apart. The Lord Ruler is Terris and imitates a noble, but I suppose he might have changed his physique with the power. Camon also impersonates a nobleman and as far as we know, he has no noble blood. In a discussion I believe Ham mentions that the only difference between Skaa and Nobles is that Skaa have more children and are usually shorter, which could be due to malnutrition.
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Twitter tells me that Obsessiforge has the official word. I'll let him tell, since he did the work.
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Ok, I have always kinda seen Ellen Page as Vin but lately I have seen a few other actresses that have potential.
Carey Mulligan
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1659547/
http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/30/1f/7528_12194539924.jpg
http://img.listal.com/image/719936/600full-carey-mulligan.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/42/0e/1698_9615456246.jpg
Emma Stone
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1297015/
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/la/pineapple_express_-_arrivals_4_010807/emma_stone_2004880.jpg
and Hayley McFarland
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2201055/
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm759859712/nm2201055
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/hayley-mcfarland-gridlock-denim-launch-party-TohOrW.jpg
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Hayley Mcfarland, huh? I think you may have something there.
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Hayley Mcfarland, huh? I think you may have something there.
Yeah, she has those huge doe eyes that just make me want to swoop in on a rope to protect her. (Where did the rope came from and why am I waiting to swoop? I have no idea.) She just has that vulnerability that may just be perfect for Vin. She looks to have the acting chops too. She is in Lie to Me on Fox and if you haven't seen it, do. It is fantastic and she is great (she does have an admittedly minor role tho, so she isn't in every episode.)
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At the risk of sounding all fanboi...
Director - JOSS FREAKING WHEDON!!! (He'd be awesome with this sort of script. Especially if he read the books. He's the kind of guy that would really get into Mistborn).
Kelsier - Nathan Fillion
Vin - Summer Glau WOULD be awesome, but I always pictured Vin more like Ellen Page (sp?)
Elend or Zane - Christian Kane (His physique would be covered up in the rumpled clothing in the first movie if he played Elend)
Straff - Oddly enough, I always pictured David Boreanaz in 20 more years whenever I read about Straff
OK, I guess I didn't so much risk sound like a Whedon fanboi as outright showing my true colors, huh?
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McFarland could do well, and she is fantastic on Lie to Me.
However much I love Joss Whedon and his posse, I don't think they could do Mistborn justice. They could nail Warbreaker though (IYKWIM, AITYD).
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I watch Lie to Me all the time. She is totally not Vin. I could almost buy her as Shallan though.
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I think that if she has any sort of acting chops, she would be able to pull off Vin. I haven't seen any of her work besides Lie to Me, she doesn't look like the Vin in my head, and her mannerisms don't seem like they would fit the part well, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that she could do a good Vin. Whether or not she would is another matter.
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Yeah, it's easy for me to assume when I've seen someone in one role that that's what they're always like. Especially when it's often true. I mean, Bruce Willis is always Bruce Willis.
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Yeah, it's easy for me to assume when I've seen someone in one role that that's what they're always like. Especially when it's often true. I mean, Bruce Willis is always Bruce Willis.
Except in Unbreakable I saw a somewhat different Bruce Willis in that one.
For me its Samuel L Jackson is always Samuel L Jackson. I'm glad I haven't seen anybody throw his name in here for any of the characters.