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Title: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Miyabi on November 09, 2009, 06:58:42 AM


Is it just me or is it extremely annoying when people seem extremely in  need of enforcing the stereotype of a group they belong to.

Examples:

  Someone who shortly after coming out of the closet becomes that extremely bubbly "oh-mygaaawwwwwwwwssssh I totally love your haieeeeerrrr" type of gay guy.  Like they go out of their way to make gay comments or sound/act extremely gay.

  The black person who dresses in absolutely obnoxious clothing and talks with a fake accent and acts like . . . . I dunno, just what you maybe expect to see in an older movie where they were making fun of black people.

  The white person who feels the need to dress and act like a cowboy even though they grew up in the city.

I mean I'm not talking about the person that grew up in the way they are acting or the person who just is that way because slowly it just happened.

I'm talking about the people who fake it.  Like I remember my one friend, she was black and one year she acted just like any other person who had grown up in the same area we did.  Then after the summer she was that super stereo typical black person.


I just don't understand why people do those things.  I think it's annoying, because it's things like this that keep stereotypes floating around and gives them validity.


Anyone else have opinions on this topic?
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: mtlhddoc2 on November 09, 2009, 09:04:06 PM
well, at least you cant fake nerd.....
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 09, 2009, 10:20:39 PM
Oh yes you can, and I've seen people trying to do it.  Some of them it's very obvious what they're doing.  Others however are very good at it.  Either way, usually their reasons aren't too kind for the person they're targeting.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on November 09, 2009, 11:16:27 PM
I grew up in the city and i where polished boots (3+ times a week gennerally b/c they are black and fit the uniform code) to work and own a straw hat for summer and a felt hat for fall and winter. I have a mild west texan accent though i've always lived in the Dallas area (north texas) and the vocabulary i use is larger than any hick's/ redneck's. So if it's honest to god you i have no problem with it. However, less than 1% of them have that personality and they behave that way because they wish to be accepted or some other pathetic reason. Weak willed people disturb & disgust me.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Miyabi on November 10, 2009, 07:29:44 AM

See Kaz, you lived that way though so it makes SENSE you have the accent and whatnot.

Now, imagine someone who grew up in Boston came down there and talked and acted extremely like they were those super Texas accented people who wore giant belt buckles and boots and 501's all the time.  Wouldn't that annoy you?
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: mtlhddoc2 on November 10, 2009, 03:21:50 PM
What I meant was, you cant fake  it to fit in, you can fake it to make fun of someone, sure.

what about those of us who have lived all over?

I actually find myself slipping into the accent of whoever I am talking to. I live in the "Boston" area, so sometimes take on a Bostonian accent. I also spent alot of time in Eastern Pennsylvania - coal mining country and am able to easily slip into a "drawl" without a problem. I also lived in New York City, and can do fast-talk  and Brooklyn with the best of them.

none of those accents is fake, they are all mine.

I do not however, wear a clock around my neck when I visit the city, nor a Stetson hat when visiting the country.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Shard on December 03, 2009, 09:51:59 PM

See Kaz, you lived that way though so it makes SENSE you have the accent and whatnot.

Now, imagine someone who grew up in Boston came down there and talked and acted extremely like they were those super Texas accented people who wore giant belt buckles and boots and 501's all the time.  Wouldn't that annoy you?


Maybe they feel like assimilating?
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on December 07, 2009, 05:47:21 PM
Fake accents suck!
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Chris Northern on January 11, 2010, 09:21:08 PM
What I meant was, you cant fake  it to fit in, you can fake it to make fun of someone, sure.

what about those of us who have lived all over?

I actually find myself slipping into the accent of whoever I am talking to. I live in the "Boston" area, so sometimes take on a Bostonian accent. I also spent alot of time in Eastern Pennsylvania - coal mining country and am able to easily slip into a "drawl" without a problem. I also lived in New York City, and can do fast-talk  and Brooklyn with the best of them.

none of those accents is fake, they are all mine.

I do not however, wear a clock around my neck when I visit the city, nor a Stetson hat when visiting the country.

Yeah, I do that. Worse, my accent slips when I'm not paying attention..

"Are you Australian? New Zealand? South Africa....?" Increasingly desperate guesses follow.

"No, no, I'm english, actually. see, I just used the word actually in natural conversation - what more proof do you want?" ;D
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 11, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
Hell I'm the grandson of a women who grew up on a tenet farm, & I use actually fairly frequently.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: The Jade Knight on January 12, 2010, 06:19:49 AM
I think "actually" is used frequently in the US.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Miyabi on January 12, 2010, 06:44:08 AM

I don't think I use it very often.  I think I say "really" a lot more.  Or "For really".
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: mtlhddoc2 on January 12, 2010, 01:46:40 PM
I think every other word out of my son's mouth is "actually"
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on January 14, 2010, 11:56:01 PM
Brandon uses it all the time in his annotations, but I've edited a lot of them out.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Pink Bunkadoo on January 15, 2010, 06:12:24 AM
I use actually way too much.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 15, 2010, 06:56:29 AM
I think we have now firmly established that Brits have no exclusive rights to the word actually, and Americans actually use actually several times throughout the day.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Renoard on April 20, 2010, 01:33:46 PM
Actually I try to reinforce stereotypes that apply to me as often as possible. :P  I love Stereo.  Mono was kind of sad.

On a serious note, IRL I am a mix racially, philosophically and politically.  I do tend to project certain stereotypes because I continually meet people who decide, based on appearances, that I don't belong to one or another group.  It's a knee jerk reaction, an means of amusing myself at their expense.

For example, I have an ethnic and spiritual heritage (one of several) that has a very pronounced identity.  I met someone in another venue, who I share this heritage with, but who is very different from me in other areas.  Now I see that as an opportunity for healthy debate and interesting conversation.

Now here's the irony, this person no longer practices the spiritual heritage and I am an avid student, yet this person speaks in a very condescending way trying to "educate" me.  My natural reaction is to be frivolous and to act as clueless as this person expects.  I feel compelled to reinforce the stereotype he has applied to me.

The Truthiness of stereotypes is a pretty comfortable playground.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Jexral on May 03, 2010, 04:48:32 AM
<shrug>   I don't really pay a lot of attention to stereotypes, or the way other people act.  Let them be whatever the want, IMO, so long as they aren't trying to hurt me or people I love.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Valkynphyre on June 07, 2010, 05:57:17 PM
The Truthiness of stereotypes is a pretty comfortable playground.

WIN!
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: guessingo on June 29, 2010, 01:44:07 PM
I last person I met who made racist comments was a guy from India. He made some generic comments about black people that you might see on TV. He just got off the boat as they say so I think he watched too much TV. I yelled at him and told him you can't talk like that in the US. I think I scared him enough to shut him up. Makes me wonder what American stuff is on TV in India.

I worked with another guy from India who asked a guy from Thailand if it was true that Thai people eat their babies. He read it somewhere. Note this guy was in an arranged marriage. I asked him how got along with his wife and all he could say is "we have a child together". So I guess that is what mattered to him.

I work in IT in the DC area. So there are people here from all over the world.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 30, 2010, 06:41:17 PM
Everybody is a racist.... most whites avoid the subject like the plague which proves our bias. (I'm being adopted soon so I'll be Hispanic... I don't have to prove it, the government has to disprove it and my mom will show up as Hispanic so it's all good!) Some are just worst than others
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Miyabi on June 30, 2010, 07:15:00 PM

I'm racist against individuals who have proven to me that they deserve to be prejudiced against.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Eerongal on June 30, 2010, 07:22:50 PM

I'm racist against individuals who have proven to me that they deserve to be prejudiced against.


Translation -

Miyabi: I'm racist/prejudice against everyone and everything. Automatically. Forever.  >:(
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Miyabi on July 01, 2010, 04:00:05 AM

*rolls eyes*

No, only against individuals that deserve it haha.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Eerongal on July 01, 2010, 02:08:09 PM

*rolls eyes*

No, only against individuals that deserve it haha.


Translation -

Miyabi: Eero is always right. Listen to everything he says, as it is all true. He is also totally awesome.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on July 01, 2010, 04:52:17 PM
Translation-

Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Eerongal on July 01, 2010, 05:24:22 PM
Translation-

Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.

Well, I certainly DO look good in a cape.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Miyabi on July 01, 2010, 07:09:12 PM
Translation-

Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.

And a top hat.


Well, I certainly DO look good in a cape.
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Eerongal on July 01, 2010, 07:32:29 PM
Translation-

Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.

And a top hat.


Well, I certainly DO look good in a cape.

Sneaky, miyabi, sneaky. However, you left your prints all over your slanderous tampering with the evidence.

(though, i do look a rather dapper fellow in a top hat as well.)
Title: Re: People who re-inforce stereotypes
Post by: Miyabi on July 01, 2010, 10:46:44 PM
Translation-

Eero: Where am I and what am I doing here? Also, when are the auditions for Ringmaster? I look good in a cape.

And a top hat.


Well, I certainly DO look good in a cape.

Sneaky, miyabi, sneaky. However, you left your prints all over your slanderous tampering with the evidence.

(though, i do look a rather dapper fellow in a top hat as well.)

Haha.  I failed to scroll down far enough. xD