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General => Rants and Stuff => Topic started by: Andrew the Great on October 03, 2009, 12:26:18 AM
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So if you want a punishment that isn't on the list, I'll add it if you tell me. I wasn't sure how long we wanted a term to be either, so I said November first, because that puts the term at about 1 year, which seems reasonable. If you want to shorten the term to a different date, vote for option 2, then post here what you would like to be the shortened term (Yes, at this point, anything is a shortened term, because we don't actually have a defined term).
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Remove no penalty he has to atleast run again or the impeachment was pointless...
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Where's my tarred and feathered option? That's always the most appropriate punishment.
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Remove no penalty he has to atleast run again or the impeachment was pointless...
I thought I should leave it up there, since there were some people who voted to convict Chaos, but didn't really seem to think he'd done much wrong.
It doesn't matter, though, because he won't win through that option. He'll have to at least run for re-election.
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Will I now?
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Yes. So there.
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I didn't realize "so there" was considered a valid argument.
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I didn't realize that asking a question was a valid refutation of a non-existent argument.
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Sorry for the double post, but I now feel obligated to point out to all of those who are putting their votes on "Combination of Options 2 and 4" that by the time Chaos runs for re-election, the term would be over already. Unless of course, we just shortened the term to some other date. But I like November, because it is a one-year term.
Basically what I'm saying is you people should vote for option 1. That way we guarantee that Chaos gets ousted (we're right now experiencing a similar issue to the one we had while impeaching him, where his supporters all vote to save him, but his opposition is divided. He's not actually ahead, but he's moving in that direction).
Or at least change it to 2. It makes more sense. In fact, I'd probably delete options 4 and 5 if I was convinced I could do so without making the current poll counts public knowledge.
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You're a meanie-head.
Also, why would the term end on November 1st?
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Cuz I picked it. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
Actually, it was more because I remembered Hero of Ages coming out in October of last year, and knew you'd been elected just before that. I figured I'd just make it November 1st for a roughly one-year term.
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Ah, but Hero of Ages came out October 14th. Therefore, on yearly terms, I'd have until October of next year. No one ever has terms that are years + a few days. That is madness, but I suppose that is what I can expect from haters like you ;)
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Well, on yearly terms, you'd technically already be out of office. Thank me later.
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Nonsense. I'm not punished in the slightest.
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Vote for one b/c impeaching a hero is SOOO much fun!!! Game point for villanry (did i make that word up just now, if so it rocks). Yearly elections means everyone will have there signatures set as Ex- Hero of Ages.
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Precisely. All though, if we don't set a term limit (which I don't think we should) someone could technically hold the title several years running, helping to alleviate this not-really-a-problem.
But honestly, share the love, allow everyone a chance to temporarily be the Hero of Ages.
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I'll still be the original Hero of Ages.
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Yes but remembered as the vanquished Lord Ruler!!!
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Preposterous.
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Ha ha. Ok, so we'll start taking nominations for the new Hero of Ages in another thread. We also need to set a term. I vote one year, with each hero taking office on November 1st, and elections beginning on October 1st (We're a little behind. So we'll just run shorter polls).
Fun side note, since I was runner-up Hero of Ages, with Chaos removed, I'm acting Hero of Ages until we get a replacement. Which, as promised, will be soon. I'll go start the nominations thread now.
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Fun side note, since I was runner-up Hero of Ages, with Chaos removed, I'm acting Hero of Ages until we get a replacement.
And now we all see the plan laid bare. It's very impressive, but you didn't show us the gun in the first act.
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Actually, I think I did mention in the first thread about whether or not to impeach Chaos that if he was removed, I would become the temporary Hero of Ages. My primary duty right now is to get a new Hero into office as quickly as possible. Any other powers that come are just a bonus. Plus, I actually plan to use my position as it was intended, rather than to tyrannize others as Chaos did. That way I can leave a nice clean start for my successor.
See the Nominations thread for rules on nominations, and to propose alternate terms, etc for the office of Hero of Ages. With me being Acting Hero of Ages, my word is the eventual law, but I will base my opinion off of what the people tell me. In this way, we can be sure that the law is clearly stated for future Hero of Ages elections, but that it will be fair. If I do not decide in favor of the most popular option, I hereby state that the people of TWG can override my decision with a majority vote, though they'll have to get one fast since we're putting a new hero in on November 1st. If you feel I am neglecting any opinion, or am not making decisions based accurately off of the general consensus, please feel free to pm me about it. I will take any and all opinions into account.
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We voted no for a shortened term as the majority selected 1....
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"A scolding he won't soon forget" wasn't an option on the poll! That's what we do to impeached politicians nowadays, right? Maybe we need to re-run the poll. ;)
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And..... Maybe not........
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"A scolding he won't soon forget" wasn't an option on the poll! That's what we do to impeached politicians nowadays, right? Maybe we need to re-run the poll. ;)
We definitely need to rerun the poll.
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Ummmm..... no. I'm exercising my newly won temporary Hero of Ages powers and stating that we don't need to rerun the poll. Now seriously, just elect someone new.
EDIT: Wow, I can't even spell right anymore. I need sleep.
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Ummmm..... no. I'm exercising my newly one temporary Hero of Ages powers and stating that we don't need to rerun the poll. Now seriously, just elect someone new.
Tyrant.
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Let's impeach Andrew.
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And that get's us where? Hell it will be fun anyways lets go for it!!!!
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It could be fun. By the time you get me out of office, I'll already be out to the new hero anyway.....
And I'm not a Tyrant. I'm preventing the useless hindrance of democracy. And as such, I am awesome. So there.
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I prevented the useless hindrance of democracy. Or tried to, at least. If you were really trying to do what you say, you would've never impeached me.
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Seriously. If Chaos' term was only a few weeks away from its end when you impeached him, what was the point of impeaching him? The useless abuse of the democratic system?
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Like I said numerous times, including in the original election, Andrew is a tyrant.
If this new "Hero of Ages" we "elect" is to be any kind of a voice for the people, we need a truly impartial arbiter of succession, not this sham of a leader we have now. I nominate Jean-Luc Picard*
*Bonus points if you got the TNG reference (besides knowing Picard is the Captain of the Enterprise. That's not a "reference", that's common knowledge).
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Just thought that I'd point out that I, unlike certain other people, have not yet actually done anything that was opposed by the majority of the people of TWG. You therefore can't claim that I'm not a voice of the people, because so far, I've done everything they've said. When it's a majority. If you can get a clear majority to say that we need to re-run the poll, we will. But so far, 2 people, both known Chaos supporters, and no people who aren't clearly in Chaos' camp (I'm not even talking about Chaos' enemies here.... just people who aren't his followers) have suggested we re-run the poll. This can only be seen as them being poor losers, not the actual will of the people. Now if the majority of TWG were Chaos supporters, that would also change this situation. However, that fact has not been established, and based on previous voting, isn't true.
I, as the temporary Hero of Ages, cannot respond to the whims of every single member of TWG. I can listen to them all, and consider whether to act on them, but it simply isn't possible to please everybody. I have to go based on the majority, which you do not seem to have. Thus I follow principles of democracy, not tyranny.
That, and I wasn't actually the one who moved to impeach Chaos in the first place. That was Kaz. I just helped move the process along in a democratic way.
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I HAVE THE PPPPPOOOOWWWWWEEEERRR!!!!
P.S. the next HoA will be from MY camp hence my puppet!!!! i will not run b/c i hate paperwork :P
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Who do you classify as being in your camp, Kaz?
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P.S. the next HoA will be from MY camp hence my puppet!!!!
No one listens to me... this is tyranny, pure and simple.
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See, the thing about that is.... no one in their right mind would ever actually agree to elect Kaz HoA, much less be elected of HoA and let him run things. And Kaz isn't scary enough to intimidate us into it. So this plan really doesn't work.
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Yeah. I'm just curious to see who he thinks he could control...Because I seriously doubt anyone would let him order them around.....That would be like the end of Chaos' rule all over again (or how the end would've turned out had he not been impeached. Everyone knew it was heading that way...).
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Seriously. To pull something like that, you'd need a group of like-minded individuals who all believed that they'd get something out of the deal for themselves: a coalition of savvy and driven people with resources, an organization the likes of which has never been seen on TWG! One man cannot control a revolution.
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Oh I don't know. We had a pretty savvy coalition not too long ago. Sad thing is, pretty much all the members dropped off the face of the site, only to pop back in every few months. It's been sad to see. Of course, the point of the Coalition is now moot, since Chaos is out of power and we were fighting to take him down.
Poor Monsta. He didn't get to take part in Chaos' downfall....
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My plan is going perfectly no one suspects a thing.... including those fools who are running for election *wicked laughter*
P.S. only a poor leader gives orders duh!
P.S.S. I am so awesome b/c by I, through Andrew (yes he is my first puppet yet he remains ignorant), brought down Chaos
P.S.S.S. Chaos was my only true oposition he detected me... yet he failed in the end
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only a poor leader gives orders duh!
Riiight. The good ones just assume that people will do exactly what they expect and/or want them to. Sounds like something I read about once (http://elitistbookreviews.blogspot.com/2009/08/devices-and-desires.html).I am so awesome
Oh, I don't doubt that.Chaos was my only true oposition he detected me... yet he failed in the end
You think this is the endgame? Getting your pet candidate elected is the hard part (especially now that you monologued your plans out for us), and we haven't even started that poll!P.S.S.
P.S.S.S.
Ah, the post-script-script (The post-script-script is the most rare and beautiful bird in this entire cartoon.). Isn't that supposed to be part of the post-script? Is the post-script-script-script the actual characters and style that the post-script-script is written in? Or perhaps they are each the subtext that we should be gleaning from the previous post-script. Either way, you have given us much to think about.
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Either way, you have given us much to think about.
Like, for example, why you would think I would ever believe that turd of an 'evil plan' of yours. And trust me, I know evil plans.
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I don't remember calling myself evil... but maybe i am. And Chaos it is so awesome because it IS unbelievable!!! @ Sortitus all of the candidates have yet to find i have something special of theirs...
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You think this is the endgame? Getting your pet candidate elected is the hard part (especially now that you monologued your plans out for us), and we haven't even started that poll!
Not to mention the two candidates have seen this and know that he has no hold over them (I am, of course, referring to sort and myself, unless someone else has been seconded and I just haven't noticed yet).
all of the candidates have yet to find i have something special of theirs...
Again, I have everything special of mine accounted for. You got nothing. And I will assume you have nothing over sort, but if you do--well. I guess we know who NOT to vote for.... ;D
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Umm...
Bikes and other sports equipment? Check.
Computers and other electronics? Check.
Books, writing, and school stuff? Check.
Money and a soul? Oh, right. I haven't had either of those for ages.
Yup, everything's accounted for.
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Umm...
Bikes and other sports equipment? Check.
Computers and other electronics? Check.
Books, writing, and school stuff? Check.
Money and a soul? Oh, right. I haven't had either of those for ages.
Yup, everything's accounted for.
Yeah, besides, Sort's all ready my puppet! :D
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They are politicians why would you believe them? Seriously atleast I tell you I am a malicious dictator in the making!!! I'm one step ABOVE politician on the moral heirarchy.
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....I'm the most honest politician here. At least I SAY that I'm a politician. All you others claim something else, with your performing and juggling and what-not. Now, that does NOT mean that I am honest. Just that I'm more honest than you....Of course, that also makes me discouraged, or something, because politicians are not meant to be honest....I think it's in the definition somewhere...maybe.
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They are politicians why would you believe them? Seriously atleast I tell you I am a malicious dictator in the making!!! I'm one step ABOVE politician on the moral heirarchy.
...Isn't a dictator a type of politician? Since, ya know, a politician is anyone who is engaged in governmental workings?
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A dictator controls the government by force so while he is involved with politics i would not call a dictator a politician.