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Local Authors => Brandon Sanderson => Topic started by: Vatdoro on April 24, 2009, 09:21:59 PM
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Brandon Twittered the following about 15 minutes ago:
Getting Ready for a Post about THE WAY OF KINGS. Should go up soon.
I am VERY excited about this new series. I am so excited about it, I am a little sad that Brandon has to work so much on the last few books of The Wheel of Time. (And I am a HUGE WoT fan!) That's how excited I am.
I managed to get a hold of Dragonsteel (see the Dragonsteel **SPOILERS** thread (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6288.0) for more info on that) I enjoyed the characters and concepts introduced in that book immensely. From what I understand, Brandon decided not to publish Dragonsteel, but to introduce some of the concepts from it in The Way of Kings instead. YES!
Anyway, I thought I'd start a thread to discuss the imminent announcement of WoK. My first thread on these forums! That's how excited I am. :D
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Dragonsteel (Jerick, Frost, Topaz etc.) will probably appear in some Dragonsteel-titled form eventually, but it could be 15 years down the road. What's being lifted for Way of Kings is not any major characters or the world itself, but some of Jerick's midstory is being transferred to a WoK character instead.
Though I guess I already said that in the other thread. :)
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Um…sorry but what is 'The Way of Kings?' ???
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It his next series, post-WoT.
Very little is known about it so far, I think, but we can probably expect some unique magic systems and environments (the Sanderson hallmarks).
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Oh, cool. Can't wait. :)
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At the signing last night Brandon said that if he can get The Way of Kings to his liking before he has to settle down for more WoT, then it's a go. I hope that based on his twitter it is to his liking. I can't wait for new 'Brandon Sanderson'.
P.S. I know Warbreaker is new, and I can't wait for it, but I am excited that Brandon will probably still be able to continue to do his own new works as well, while he finishes up WoT.
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There is probably more that Ookla/ Brandon has told us at one point, but when last I heard Way of Kings was going to be:
-really long. I think I heard the phrase "10 books" bandied about.
-with lots of magic. A new magic system will be introduced in each book, making for TEN different magics. I also heard he was going for an elemental-ish magic, as in wind magic and fire magic and whatnot.
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I love that kind.…
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At least one of the magic systems will involve something elemental, but they won't all be that way. Some will be more complex than others.
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If you know–will each of the previously introduced magical systems be apparent as the books progress, or will there only be one in each book?
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As far as I know, there will be multiple magic systems in each book. Maybe each book will focus on explaining only one, but there will be more than one kind of magic going on in the books and stuff from previous books will still be around, assuming the character(s) who used that magic system is/are still around.
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Sounds great! Has the B started writing it yet?
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He's going to post a blog entry about it soon, so RAFO.
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Will the blog entry be on his website or this website? (Or both, I guess?)
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I went to a book signing a few months ago and Mr. Sanderson read an excerpt, about an assassin. I asked if, like his other books, there would be discussions of religion and crazy magic systems. He said there would be 10 magic systems, and I couldn't tell if he was serious or joking. Anyway I'm excited because this will be the first huge, epic series I read from the very beginning! I found out about Harry Potter maybe two years after it started. I was a tiny kid when Wheel of Time first came out and I only just read GRR Martin this month, although maybe that's a good thing because I have a shorter wait for book 5.
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Shaggy: I'd say his website would be a better bet.
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The blog entry will be where his blog entries normally are: His website, livejournal, etc.
Anyway I'm excited because this will be the first huge, epic series I read from the very beginning!
Yeah, it's quite a different experience. I'm not sure I ever have and stuck with it. I read Cherryh's Foreigner when it first came out, but only got four or five books in and now I'm like 7 books behind.
That's one reason, though, why authors write long series—years down the road, when someone gets hooked on it, they go out and buy all the rest. Many standalones just get their hardback and paperback runs and then go out of print.
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I was up half the night checking TwitterFon on my phone over and over waiting for an update on this. I also kept checking my RSS reader on my phone as well. Ha ha. I should have known soon didn't mean within the same day. . . . silly me.
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So cool! :) I'll be interesting to see this.
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I'll ask Brandon tomorrow.
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Ookla - Thanks for looking out for us. Maybe brandon just wants to draw out the anticipation of The Way of Kings for us. Or maybe I just got myself too excited when I saw him Twit about WoK. ;D
I'm hoping he'll post the update before he heads off to Nebraska this week, but if he's not ready to make any announcements then I suppose I can wait a little longer.
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I want to go to the Field of Nebrask and fight the war!
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Don't we all, miyabi? Don't we all?
Anyway, Brandon said he wrote up his Way of Kings post and didn't like it, so he has to rework it a bit before it goes live.
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Coolness. I can't wait for that post.
Is Scribbler coming out the year after Alcatraz 5 or is it coming otu at some other time? (sorry for the off topic)
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That is probably the earliest it can possibly come out, but there are no guarantees it would even come out then.
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I really want to read the second book for that series, but I don't think it's even written yet. ha ha.
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Not at all, and Brandon won't even start until the first book has a home.
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Anyway I'm excited because this will be the first huge, epic series I read from the very beginning!
Dude! Me too! I'm psyched. While I love stand-alone novels; I have an obsessive personality, so I love being able to grasp onto a series because there is more material to obsess about.
ANYWAY - SO EXCITED!!
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Way of Kings is going to be incredible! Imagine our fake fights with TEN magic systems!!!!
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Oh wow. I don't think I'm gonna be able to keep up with that.
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My only problem with epic series, is the fact that they end. You get SOOO attached to the characters, and then, it's over.
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My only problem with epic series, is the fact that they end. You get SOOO attached to the characters, and then, it's over.
Unless it's WoT, of course.
Just kidding. Sorta.
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ive decided to root for the Dark Lord in WoT. the bad guys are way more interesting at this point.
As for Brandon, I know he is going to work extremely hard to make sure every book in his huge series carries significant impact and originality. I am way excited for him, and for fantasy readers.
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ive decided to root for the Dark Lord in WoT.
Bookstore Guy is a Darkfriend! Quick, somebody scrawl a Dragon's Fang on his door!
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ive decided to root for the Dark Lord in WoT. the bad guys are way more interesting at this point.
Well said. The only character I really care about these days is Mat...
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The elephant in the room is that Epic Fiction is only done well by those who have lived. That makes it hard to get finished before Amigdaloidosis or some equally light-blasted illness interrupts you.
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^ Good point.
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Renoard, are you wondering if Brandon has enough life experience to write a compelling epic?
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depends on your definition of "lived." Some authors have military, law enforcement, or journalism backgrounds that help with their writing. others have their personal studies or hobbies. some have religion or travels. the point is, everyone can draw on something to have ideas. ideas are a dime-a-dozen. the kicker is how good of a writer are you...
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Don't forget organization...ideas are worthless if the plotline is incoherent
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ive decided to root for the Dark Lord in WoT. the bad guys are way more interesting at this point.
Well said. The only character I really care about these days is Mat...
Really? He's the best but I sure want to see the return of Moraine and what Aviendha has been up to. Sure would like to see Egwene keep growing and start to kick some Aes Sedai booty. Perrin can become cool again now that the eternal Faile rescue is over and Rand might become more early Rand like once he learns to laugh and cry again. Nynaeve has become pretty interesting lately, Oh yeah Lan in the borderlands, Galad in charge of Whitecloaks, Thom, Jain, Verin etc.
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Does anyone know what the first Way of Kings book will be called? (Ookla?)
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Way of Kings is the name of the book now. Brandon has picked a different name for the series that he's fairly solid on. I imagine he will talk about it when he makes his blog entry, which may not be until after he gets back from Nebraska.
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Why is he in Nebraska?
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Nebraska is where he is from, and he's doing signings and appearances. He talked about it on his blog.
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Why don't you research that question?
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No point in fighting over the internet.
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Ookla I'm more than happy to discuss this with you but perhaps we should do it in a more private location…if you start a thread and send me the link i will gladly talk with you.
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Blog post is up.
http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/784/Another-Long-Winded-Explanation-of-Various-Things
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Sounds good to me. Can't wait!
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depends on your definition of "lived." Some authors have military, law enforcement, or journalism backgrounds that help with their writing. others have their personal studies or hobbies. some have religion or travels. the point is, everyone can draw on something to have ideas. ideas are a dime-a-dozen. the kicker is how good of a writer are you...
That's something I've never thought of before but it makes perfect sense. I'd say Robert Jordan was good at military themed-writing, Brandon Sanderson writes a lot about religion
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Makes sense I guess.
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Hmmm... Seems we underestimated on magic systems. In that blog post ookla linked Brandon said well over twenty magic systems. That's got to be the most insane number I've ever heard.
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I'm really excited for the release of Way of Kings, but I'm also sad to see that Scribbler is being put off at least until 2012. :( I love that book.
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Did you read all of Scribbler? I mean, it is incredibly awesome, but I'd be surprised at such a fervent reaction just from the sample chapters.
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I read all of Scribbler. It was pretty great.
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Yeah, I read the whole thing, and provided at least a few pages worth of feedback on it. xP
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Well, that explains some things. On top of all that, he'll probably have some work related to the Mistborn RPG, making sure that it's all canonically correct if nothing else.
Busy man is busy.
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Ofcourse he needs to write some of his own stuff and not only WoT! Good luck Brandon! I'm looking forward to read WoK :)
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Either way, in order to give this a try, I've hired a full-time assistant, Peter Ahlstrom, to do all the things in a day that normally take my time away from writing/revising.
We're counting on you, Ookla!
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Ook,
Does your work as an assistant to BS include Editing or critique and how does that affect any writing that you might be doing? Assisstant is a vague term and I was just curious. If you are editing, are you doing copy edits on WoK?
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Even though I am one of the WOT fans he is talking about. I am glad that he is taking the time to do his own books as well. I would hate to see him get burned out on doing WOT and he needs to worry about his own fan base as well. I will definitely be picking up WoK when it comes out too. People think keeping track of WoT plot lines was confusing. Now I have to keep track of 20 different magic systems and dozens of POVs. This will definitely have a lot of discussion points on the forums.
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Yes, I will be working on MB RPG stuff. That just hasn't been assigned to me yet.
My full title is Personal Editorial Assistant. My work does include critique, and I'll handle inputting the copy edits (like Maria's doing for Wheel of Time). I'll be one of the first people to read the new revision of Way of Kings. (I read the first version years ago.)
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Even though I am one of the WOT fans he is talking about. I am glad that he is taking the time to do his own books as well. I would hate to see him get burned out on doing WOT and he needs to worry about his own fan base as well. I will definitely be picking up WoK when it comes out too. People think keeping track of WoT plot lines was confusing. Now I have to keep track of 20 different magic systems and dozens of POVs. This will definitely have a lot of discussion points on the forums.
See, this is exactly what I have been waiting for from Brandon - something that puts him at or above the scale and complexity of Erkison, Martin, or Bakker. WoT isn't confusing in the least to me (pretty straight-forward really), so this is the direction I am glad Brandon is taking.
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I don't think it will be dozens of POVs and 20 magic systems in the first book. I think this is the series as a whole.
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yeah. 1 book with all that would be...chaotic...
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I don't think it will be dozens of POVs and 20 magic systems in the first book. I think this is the series as a whole.
True but is each book going to be neatly tied up at then end or are the story lines going to continue through the books. From his current books I expect arks to get tied up more then they do in WoT but the major story arks will probably span through most of the books.
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I'm guessing the series will be a bit more continuous than Mistborn (Mistborn has year gaps), but I expect Brandon will continue having a definite beginning, middle, and end to each book. He's less likely to just stop and call it a book than some authors out there. But yeah, there's no reason to call ten books a single series if there aren't overarching plots that don't get resolved in one book. :)
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Wooo Hooooo! Way of Kings update!
I just have to say I love how open and upfront Brandon is about his progress, how he spends his time, his personal goals, and whatnot. It's a huge contrast from most other authors. What a stud! He actually gives us more information than I would if I were in his shoes, but I think it's awesome he feels comfortable revealing his self-imposed deadlines to us. But, maybe telling people what his self-imposed deadlines are helps him reach them. :P
THE WAY OF KINGS is a massive war epic of legends, mythology, and magical revolution. It's intricate, complex, and was a bit daunting for me when I thought about readying it for publication.
That sounds AWESOME! I'm stoked! When I first read Elantris and Mistborn I enjoyed them, but they didn't have the epic scope I love about WoT and other long series. Then when I learned that Brandon was finishing the WoT, the most exciting aspect of it for me was that he'd get the experience and practice of writing in that huge epic world. Now my wildest dreams are coming true and Brandon is publishing his own huge series. And he's young enough that this could just be his first big series, he could go on to write additional ones!
Brandon says he's been planning and working on this book for 8 years. I'm sure some of that was spent in world building and outlining the overall series, and we all know Brandon has pumped out MANY other books in the last 8 years. I'm curious how long Brandon expects the second book in the series to take him.
Oh, and congrats Ookla! That's very cool. Now you can really give us the nitty gritty (that's nitty gritty with a Nacho Libre accent).
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Actually I can talk about less (plotwise) than I could before, since I am under NDA. Though I think I did pretty well before—I only ever let one thing slip that I didn't mean to, and it was pretty minor.
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I'm now jealous of everyone who's read all of Scribbler. All I ever read was the first like 5 chapters.
And I'm now more excited than ever for Way of Kings. After reading Steven Erickson, I kept thinking, there's nothing that can top this. If there's anyone that can pull off something more complex than the Malazan books it's Brandon.
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Actually I can talk about less (plotwise) than I could before, since I am under NDA. Though I think I did pretty well before—I only ever let one thing slip that I didn't mean to, and it was pretty minor.
Darn it! You mean we can't have you give out cryptic clues anymore? That was where all the best stuff came from! Silly Brandon having you on contract. What is he thinking?
Hahaha... just kidding. :P Congrats on being hired!
And I'm now more excited than ever for Way of Kings. After reading Steven Erickson, I kept thinking, there's nothing that can top this. If there's anyone that can pull off something more complex than the Malazan books it's Brandon.
That's the third time this week Steven Erickson has been mentioned to me... I think fate wants me to read them.
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I don't think "more complex than the Malazan books" is something Brandon's aiming for or would want to aim for. He's got some interesting things planned, but let's not get carried away.
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more complex? doubt it. i don't even want to read something that crazy, and i love Erikson. I actually want Brandon to be more complex than his current works, more complex than Jordan (not really difficult), but more accessible than Erikson (probably on a Abercrombie or Lynch level but more epic).
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If anyone aimed to be more complex than Erickson I wouldn't read it. I like Erickson but it is too much to ask for me to learn some goofy system to understand books. I don't have tons of time and I don't want to try to spend it figuring out the timeline of some make believe world where certain peoples use Omatose Limp-noodle and other peoples use Kurald Viagra but someone who is an inbreed can weild 3/4 of the and 1/8 of the other while being partially immune to magic. It is too much to ask. Erickson should spend a little less time making up weird crap and reading his own material to see if even he understand what he has written.
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I wouldn't be too concerned about that... Brandon is big on establishing logical rules and then slowly revealing that logic to the reader. That underlying structure is one of those things I find appealing about his books.
Abercrombie is pretty awesome, but I found the ending to Last Argument of Kings incredibly dark, and I'm hoping Best Served Cold will kick it back up a little. Lynch is just good stuff, though I was a little irritated that Red Skies was obstensibly a heist story that became a pirate story only to become a heist story at the end again. It felt like he realized his heist wasn't enough to hold a whole novel, and so he tossed in pirates to spread it out a little. I enjoyed it, but I found that to be a little jarring.
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I actually want Brandon to be more complex than his current works . . . but more accessible than Erikson.
Both highly likely. (No comment on the Jordan part. I think claiming anything on that front would be premature and impolitic.)
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I actually want Brandon to be more complex than his current works . . . but more accessible than Erikson.
Both highly likely. (No comment on the Jordan part. I think claiming anything on that front would be premature and impolitic.)
no doubt, plus my Jordan comment is a personal view that i doubt most people around here agree with.
Inkthinker - glad to see another person who is reading the stuff I am. I personally found the ending to LAST ARGUMENT to be very defeatist. It was actually my least fav. of the 3 (though the Logan sections were full of win). The 2nd one was my fav.
I'm excited to see what Brandon does. I'm glad he is doing WoT (picked the best person for the job imo), but I am much more excited for him to get back to his own stories.
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I'm not necessarily talking more complex as far as plot and world go... I was thinking more characters. With Erickson, you get to like the characters and know a little about them. I always ended up wishing I knew more of them though, their thoughts, motivations, feelings, which is something I think Brandon does quite well. I would also think Brandon's style would make something of the same complexity as Erickson much more readable and understandable. Brandon explains things clearly and logically, whereas Erickson drops you into the middle of a war and lets you see it and try to figure it out that way (which only works about half the time. I can think of about three different instances in those books that something pivotal happened that I still don't understand. Don't get me wrong, they're great, just confusing sometimes.).
But as far as a more convoluted plot or more insane worldbuilding? No. It just doesn't happen. He could possibly equal it, and do very well with that, but more complex would just get to the point where it's completely impossible to keep track of.
Sorry for the confusion.
I actually haven't read Abercrombie or Lynch. I'll have to give them a try.
But the point is, Way of Kings is going to be much more complex than anything we've seen from Brandon so far. I think he'll compete with the other authors of epic series very well.
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Inkthinker - glad to see another person who is reading the stuff I am. I personally found the ending to LAST ARGUMENT to be very defeatist. It was actually my least fav. of the 3 (though the Logan sections were full of win). The 2nd one was my fav.
All of Ninefinger's story was epic win, but that's part of why I didn't care for the last book. It's not that I didn't think the ending, especially Logan's, wasn't appropriate, it's just that I don't care for flat story arcs, and in the end I felt like that's what Abercrombie delivered with the third book. Even characters who advanced in plot or personality often had that growth undermined by the events of the third book. Call it "dark" or "defeatist", all I know is that after I set down Last Argument of Kings I felt like someone drowned my puppy.
It's still an awesome series of books. The Bloody Nine is probably the best "barbarian" character I've ever read, and I've read a few. I like Abercrombie's personalities and I love his action scenes. That's why I'm torn over it, 'cause I feel like I should recommend it to friends, but it's SO depressing at the end.
Best Served Cold is coming out soon, and while I know it's not part of the trilogy per se, it's set in the same world and in a time period only a few months or years after the events of the trilogy, so I'm hoping for better closure of SOME sort for the original cast. If it ends even a little better and I don't feel like he wrote it just to mollify squeaky wheels like myself, I'll put it back up as one of my favorite new series. There's a sample chapter on his site, and it's pretty good stuff. This book starts out dark as hell, so I'm hoping the way out is the way up.
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I you want defeatist try Robin Hobbs' Soldier Son series. I had to get counseling after reading it. :P
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Soldier Son was on odd series. It had its good parts and bad parts. I didn't particularly like the ending though. It seemed that he was to attached to the characters so everything had to turn out perfect.
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Robin Hobb is a woman. But I barely finished the first book—during the epidemic near the end I realized I just didn't care about anyone. I was not inclined to pick up the second.
I love her other books, especially the Liveship books, but that book just didn't do it for me, and it sounds like I was right to stay away. (I don't want defeatist.)
It's something I really like about Brandon though. The ending to Hero of Ages was incredibly risky, but he was able to finesse it so most readers loved it instead of hating him.
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It's something I really like about Brandon though. The ending to Hero of Ages was incredibly risky, but he was able to finesse it so most readers loved it instead of hating him.
The ending to Hero of Ages was great, and it reminded me of how some of Erikson's novels end. I look forward to these types of endings in the Way of Kings series.
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I felt the same slog/piling on atmosphere from Robin Hobb's Assassin's Apprentice series. Nothing seemed to go right for the main character. Even the ending was meh. I liked the series but I won't be rereading it anytime soon because of the oppressive tone.
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The Assasin's series was great. I read it many times. I even got pulled out to get additional screening at the airport once due to them picking up the book and reading the title. I was reading Royal assasin at the time.
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The difference between HoA's ending and LAoK is that however sad the ending might have been for some, he didn't negate the characters' growth arcs, and ultimately it WAS a happier ending for the world at large. I don't think Abercrombie can say the same about his trilogy.
I think it has something to do with the whole issue of "promises" that Sanderson et al have discussed in Writing Excuses... whatever you do, you have to fulfill the promises you make to your readers. You can do it in unexpected or twisty ways, but if you pull out the rug you just leave 'em disappointed.
I'm fairly confident that Brandon won't always give me the ending I personally want, but he'll give me what he's promised.
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I really enjoyed Hobb's Assassin series and the Liveship series was all right, but I definitely find myself liking her writings less with each new series.
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The difference between HoA's ending and LAoK is that however sad the ending might have been for some, he didn't negate the characters' growth arcs, and ultimately it WAS a happier ending for the world at large. I don't think Abercrombie can say the same about his trilogy.
I think it has something to do with the whole issue of "promises" that Sanderson et al have discussed in Writing Excuses... whatever you do, you have to fulfill the promises you make to your readers. You can do it in unexpected or twisty ways, but if you pull out the rug you just leave 'em disappointed.
I'm fairly confident that Brandon won't always give me the ending I personally want, but he'll give me what he's promised.
exactly.
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Hobb's Farseer (assassin) trilogy definitely had depressing parts, especially in the second book, and the third book had some retconning problems. I was very happy with the end of the Fool trilogy, though, which follows it (and also follows the Liveship trilogy). I thought the end was very good—the characters deserved to be happy for once, doggone it. So if you liked the Assassin books but weren't thrilled with the ending, keep reading the Liveship and Fool trilogies and you won't regret it in the end.
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I agree Robin Hobbs Farseer, Liveship and Fools trilogy's were all good, they keep wanting more and I regularly go back for a re-read. Her Soldier Son trilogy was to be honest dire. The first book left me feeling meh and i wasn't sure whether to read the second. In the end I did and I regret it. I never bother wasting my money on the third, it's made me reluctant to buy any more of her books.
That's what I love about Brandon's book, time and again his books grab you and keep you begging for more. I know TWoKs will do the same and even though I glad he's working hard on the WoT I'm glad he's still working on his own stuff because I can't get enough of it.
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Hobb's Farseer (assassin) trilogy definitely had depressing parts, especially in the second book, and the third book had some retconning problems. I was very happy with the end of the Fool trilogy, though, which follows it (and also follows the Liveship trilogy). I thought the end was very good—the characters deserved to be happy for once, doggone it. So if you liked the Assassin books but weren't thrilled with the ending, keep reading the Liveship and Fool trilogies and you won't regret it in the end.
Good to know, Ook. Honestly, I found the Farseer trilogy more depressing than Abercrombie's books, at times.
I'd have been quite surprised if Sanderson hadn't continued to work on his own stuff. I'm sure working on the Wheel of Time is wonderful, but I can't see why anyone would want to work on someone else's stuff exclusively for such a long period of time.
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I've started The Blade Itself three times and just can't get into it. People I know say I'm nuts (well, more than normal) but I just keep saying "meh" as I read it. The book just doesn't grab my attention. Anyone else have that problem with that book?
I'm looking forward to tWoK because Sanderson has never had any problems getting my attention early in any of his books.
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He's going to post a blog entry about it soon, so RAFO.
RAFO. LOL.
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B. Sanderson's latest Tweet:
And...done! 381,097 words. Whoo, boy. That's about 1/3 longer than it was supposed to be. But it's DONE. And it rocks.
1/3 longer than it was supposed to be? That got me wondering what other books are about that size. One of Sanderson's old blog posts has a good list of books and word counts:
http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/743/Happy-Holidays-and-Merry-Christmas!
There are (currently) only two WoT books longer than Way of Kings! Wow. :o That's going to be quite the first installment of an epic series. I can't wait! ;D
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I just saw that update myself!! Now if only we didn't have to wait so long to read it.... *sigh*
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We could start an online petition to delay the release of WoT so that the WoK could come out first?
Ya think that would be successful?
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Something tells me that wouldn't go over very well with a lot of people. Much as I want to read WoT, I think I could wait... I've waited this long already, what's a little longer? ;D Way of Kings for the win!
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We could start an online petition to delay the release of WoT so that the WoK could come out first?
Ya think that would be successful?
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Just how many death threats are you trying to get, here? I'd almost expect an angry mob to spontaneously form outside your house if you did that.
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Maybe we'd be better off with an online petition to have him release this draft of WoK on his site.
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I dont think he should (or will) release WoK online first. It was a great experiment with a stand-alone (kinda) novel, but i dont think it would be a good marketing decision for the first in a huge series. Given what this series means to Tor and to Brandon, I think waiting a year in anticipation will be a good thing.
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It's done? Hehehehee hahahahaha MUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH! ooo, I can't wait. so how long do you guys think before we'll get to read it?
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It's done? Hehehehee hahahahaha MUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH! ooo, I can't wait. so how long do you guys think before we'll get to read it?
I would guess that it would be released next June/July. I doubt Tor would want to release this book too close to the next Wheel of Time book.
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Next summer would be great... I wish more books I want to read would be released in the summer. Way more time to read, fewer consequences for staying up until 4:00am.
I LOVE the series title, the Stormlight Archive. It's intriguing and it just makes me happy.
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By the way, I volunteered to find someone to post a Way of Kings review on Amazon for someone. (You have to have bought any product ever from Amazon US in order to review something there.) It's a pretty humorous review. Someone, step up to the plate! I will pay you by revealing the 4th word of the 9th line of page 587.
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Will that be page 587 of the hard back copy or the paper back?
There is already 33 reviews on amazon for Way of Kings already
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The manuscript.
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Ooo, a spoiler! No, no, don't tell me, let me guess. Is it "the"? Or maybe "a"?
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Ook, if you still need someone to post a review I'll do it. And I don't even really care about the reveals either.
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Ooo, a spoiler! No, no, don't tell me, let me guess. Is it "the"? Or maybe "a"?
Well...you're very close. ;)
FRR, I'm private-messaging you.
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how many reviews do you want? I've too have the magical ability to post reviews to amazon
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Oh my gosh. That new review is hilarious! I love it! If only an author would REALLY do that.... :D
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It's not the quantity that matters. It's the creativity. Don't just write the same kind of review someone else has already written. We need more unexpected gems. :)
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In an unrelated note, I am very excited for the Way of Kings and the Stormlight Archive :D
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seems like Brandon told me at one point that his books would be released between the end of Aug. and Oct. Then when WoT is done in a couple of years, his books will take over the traditional WoT late Oct./November release slot.
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Assuming the first two sell well. ;)
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Dang, I wish I had logged in last night to get in on this.
Can someone link the review here?
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http://www.amazon.com/Way-Kings-Brandon-Sanderson/product-reviews/B000WH4TIA/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?ie=UTF8&coliid=&showViewpoints=1&colid=&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending
Just scroll down a bit from there.
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Assuming the first two sell well. ;)
exactly. i dont see that being much of an issue though.
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Oh, my gosh. Brandon just posted a more in-depth description of Kings on the Barnes and Noble forum (he's now doing a Q&A there). It sounds even MORE amazing. AH!
I've told Tor that I want to release KINGS on a schedule of two books, followed by one book in another setting, then two more KINGS. The series of KINGS has been named The Stormlight Archive. (The Way of Kings is the name of the first volume.)
So I should be doing plenty of shorter series in between. We'll see how busy this all keeps me. I think I'd go crazy if I weren't allowed to do new worlds every now and again.
But, then, KINGS turned out very, very well. (The first book is complete as of yesterday.) What is it about? Well...I'm struggling to find words to explain it. I could easily give a one or two line pitch on my previous books, but the scope of what I'm trying with this novel is such that it defies my attempts to pin it down.
It happens in a world where hurricane-like storms crash over the land every few days. All of plant life and animal life has had to evolve to deal with this. Plants, for instance, have shells they can withdraw into before a storm. Even trees pull in their leaves and branches. There is no soil, just endless fields of rock.
According to the mythology of the world, mankind used to live in The Tranquiline Halls. Heaven. Well, a group of evil spirits known as the Voidbringers assaulted and captured heaven, casting out God and men. Men took root on Roshar, the world of storms, but the Voidbringers chased them there, trying to push them off of Roshar and into Damnation.
The voidbringers came against man a hundred by a hundred times, trying to destroy them or push them away. To help them cope, the Almighty gave men powerful suits of armor and mystical weapons, known as Shardblades. Led by ten angelic Heralds and ten orders of knights known as Radiants, men resisted the Voidbringers ten thousand times, finally winning and finding peace.
Or so the legends say. Today, the only remnants of those supposed battles are the Shardblades, the possession of which makes a man nearly invincible on the battlefield. The entire world, essentially, is at war with itself--and has been for centuries since the Radiants turned against mankind. Kings strive to win more Shardblades, each secretly wishing to be the one who will finally unite all of mankind under a single throne.
That's the backstory. Probably too much of it. (Sorry.) The book follows a young spearman forced into the army of a Shardbearer, led to war against an enemy he doesn't understand and doesn't really want to fight. It will deal with the truth of what happened deep in mankind's past. Why did the Radiants turn against mankind, and what happened to the magic they used to wield?
I've been working on this book for ten years now. Rather than making it easier to describe and explain, that has made it more daunting. I'm sure I'll get better at it as I revise and as people ask me more often. ;)
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That's the most specific info he's ever announced.
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Oh, my gosh. Brandon just posted a more in-depth description of Kings on the Barnes and Noble forum (he's now doing a Q&A there). It sounds even MORE amazing. AH!
I've told Tor that I want to release KINGS on a schedule of two books, followed by one book in another setting, then two more KINGS. The series of KINGS has been named The Stormlight Archive. (The Way of Kings is the name of the first volume.)
So I should be doing plenty of shorter series in between. We'll see how busy this all keeps me. I think I'd go crazy if I weren't allowed to do new worlds every now and again.
But, then, KINGS turned out very, very well. (The first book is complete as of yesterday.) What is it about? Well...I'm struggling to find words to explain it. I could easily give a one or two line pitch on my previous books, but the scope of what I'm trying with this novel is such that it defies my attempts to pin it down.
It happens in a world where hurricane-like storms crash over the land every few days. All of plant life and animal life has had to evolve to deal with this. Plants, for instance, have shells they can withdraw into before a storm. Even trees pull in their leaves and branches. There is no soil, just endless fields of rock.
According to the mythology of the world, mankind used to live in The Tranquiline Halls. Heaven. Well, a group of evil spirits known as the Voidbringers assaulted and captured heaven, casting out God and men. Men took root on Roshar, the world of storms, but the Voidbringers chased them there, trying to push them off of Roshar and into Damnation.
The voidbringers came against man a hundred by a hundred times, trying to destroy them or push them away. To help them cope, the Almighty gave men powerful suits of armor and mystical weapons, known as Shardblades. Led by ten angelic Heralds and ten orders of knights known as Radiants, men resisted the Voidbringers ten thousand times, finally winning and finding peace.
Or so the legends say. Today, the only remnants of those supposed battles are the Shardblades, the possession of which makes a man nearly invincible on the battlefield. The entire world, essentially, is at war with itself--and has been for centuries since the Radiants turned against mankind. Kings strive to win more Shardblades, each secretly wishing to be the one who will finally unite all of mankind under a single throne.
That's the backstory. Probably too much of it. (Sorry.) The book follows a young spearman forced into the army of a Shardbearer, led to war against an enemy he doesn't understand and doesn't really want to fight. It will deal with the truth of what happened deep in mankind's past. Why did the Radiants turn against mankind, and what happened to the magic they used to wield?
I've been working on this book for ten years now. Rather than making it easier to describe and explain, that has made it more daunting. I'm sure I'll get better at it as I revise and as people ask me more often. ;)
*happy dance* ;D
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Ook, I thought so. I've read everything he's put up on his blog about it, and nothing has come close to this....I was amazed as I read more and more....wow. Just wow.
And Pygmalion, I am SO joining you with that happy dance. :)
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Voidbringers? Sounds familiar.... I wonder if there is some bizzare Hoid-ish connection between them and the Worldbringers?
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It finally occured to me that after reading the blog post and Brandon's two online Q&A sessions that I could post here. Duh.
So now all I have to add is OH MY GOD I AM EXCITED LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
Also, I don't usually use caps. :D
That description is pretty cool, and I already can't wait to see how the Stormlight Archive begins. Well played, Brandon. :)
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So i am incredibly jealous that i don't live in Utah and so won't be able to hear a reading from WoK...
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So i am incredibly jealous that i don't live in Utah and so won't be able to hear a reading from WoK...
...Me too....But I might be able to hear some of it later, around the New Year, assuming he's able to come back to I.F. after the WoT signing to do a reading of his own stuff (he said on the B&N Q&A that he might try that..which would awesome, if I can convince my dad that it would be worth it to go....shouldn't be too hard).
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I don't know about the reading, but I know that the prologue (which he'll more the likely read) is AWESOME! I'm sure you'll get a chance to hear it later.
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anyone know the next time brandon will bein california?
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Is there a chance Mr. Sanderson would release a prologue or sample chapter on the site?
Would be great I think.
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Brandon will be in California during the TGS tour. Details (of some of the tour dates at least) should be posted on the website in the next few weeks.
Also, Brandon said he is definitely going to be releasing sample chapters of WoK on the site, and probably will start that earlier than he released sample chapters from his other books.
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So then can we expect the first three chapters (or I guess prolouge and the firsts two) as per usual?
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I have realized that i am going to have to wait an extra two years before i can read Way of Kings.
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Why's that?
Or you could wait 15 years until all 10 books are out, right?
fRR I seem to remember him saying he might release a couple more than 3 chapters.
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:) That's truly great news, I think it's so awesome Mr. Sanderson actually releases "teasers".
2010 is looking like it'll turn out to be a great year for fantasy, with Mr. Sanderson's help the new WoT will be unleashed upon the literary world at last and hopefully G.R.R.M. will also be releasing "A Dance with Dragons".
It's great fun to pick up each book by Mr. Sanderson and discover how much his writing-skills are growing and refining with each release.
Thanks for the speedy reply btw ;)
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Ooo, that sounds promising. Now I'm all excited. Any news on WHEN he'll start releasing things?
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2010 is looking like it'll turn out to be a great year for fantasy, hopefully G.R.R.M. will also be releasing "A Dance with Dragons".
Wow, eternal optimist are you? ;D
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i am turning 19 and plan on leaving on my mission before Kings comes out
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Ah! Well then, you'll hopefully have a couple books waiting for you when you get home, plus another one coming out very soon!
Nothing that I knew was coming before my mission bothered me very much, and I enjoyed catching up once I got back. I was seriously annoyed at not getting to see The Postman though, since I loved the book and the first time I knew it was being made into a movie was when I saw a poster at a bus stop. But that turned out all right too because the movie wasn't that great. (Well, there was a good movie in there, but there was also an extra hour of film.)
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yeah it'll be ok. it was just kind of a bummer when i first realized it. but i guess this way i won't have to stop for two years in between books.
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Come back safely! :) That way you can tell us what you thought of Way of Kings ;)
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Now that I think about it, I turn 19 in 2 years, so there's a good chance that I could just barely miss the last wheel of time book. That would be thoroughly dissappointing, though I have been waiting so long already it really wouldn't make much of a difference. And I'll have a Way of Kings "gap," but oh well. I'll live.
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Hey lookee what I found! Anyways, I think that Way of Kings will have a guy who just 'happens' to stumble onto a shard sword (mystical shard-powered things) and he will struggle what to do with it. Does he try to take power with it , because he's a good person and would rule better? Or does he give it to someone else who he feels is more 'worthy' to have it? Or does he not take power because he feels it would corrupt him?
Any who, I think that we will also have a fairly scholarly figure, since Brandon seems to like them (Sazed, Elend, Raoden, Vasher?). I also think he will have a fairly strong female leader, but not another Vin. I think that part of the magic, as some people seem to already know (curse you Dragonsteel!), Will be the ability to change from the Physical to the Cognitive, and maybe even to the Spiritual? I doubt that last one, or it will be such a rare (or impossible) occurance that it is a huge deal when a character gets it.
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I'm almost postivie you're right about the female lead and scolar, who if the snipit I listened do is any idication, will be the same character.
Another cool aspect of the magic that I've gotten from talking to DS readers is that if you can do one magic, you can do them all, which would be really cool. It will definatly be an intresting change from MB where that was something they tried to keep secret until the end-ish.
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The magic system in DS if you used one you didn't have it was REALLY hard to do.
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Will be the ability to change from the Physical to the Cognitive, and maybe even to the Spiritual?
Hopefully this is true. It fits right in with the whole duality of Roshar vs. Shadesmar, and my multi-planar planet theory.
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hahaha... I see what Brandon means when he says it's equal parts fun and frustration to watch people speculate. ;D
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Ink! Your art is truly missed!
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I second that your art is missed, although I must add that from what I've been allowed to see of your concept art, I can't wait to see what all you've done. And I must tell you that the stuff I have seen is amazing!
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Ink! Your art is truly missed!
When I heard the signing in Salt Lake last week had some concept art for TWoK I was ecstatic because I assumed it would be Ink's artwork. I have to admit I was a little disappointed when I learned it was Isaac's maps and symbols. (Nothing against Isaac's work. I think he's done an outstanding job on Brandon's books.)
Anyway, I'm just saying I've REALLY been looking forward to seeing the artwork Ink has done for TWoK for a long time. Too bad it's so top secret you can't share it on here. :(
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I hope we don't get too much concept art. Gotta hate when the picture in your head isn't what the author imagined or his slave artists imagined. I much prefer to be surprised that my images of characters/settings are wrong AFTER I have read the book, rather then be forced to picture it the artists way.
??? I think I confused myself again ???
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I don't know who's seen what or when, but Isaac's work looks tight as hell, doesn't it? I really dig the symbols.
Anyone can follow my regular work, such as it is, through DeviantArt (http://inkthinker.deviantart.com). I try to post at least something every couple weeks. Lately I've been working on a graphic novel for Humouring the Fates (http://www.fates.com), the production studio through which I contract as an animator/designer.
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I love the designs! They're so intricate. And to think he pulled the "language" AFTER, not the other way around. (I couldn't do it.)
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One thing I remember them mentioning at the signing recently is that with the art for KINGS, their goal is to help convey concepts and help paint the picture, but to have a clear goal of not showing any of the characters and such, since those are things that the reader should picture in their mind.
The example he gave was if on a page they mention a particular painting or scroll that is important to the story, on the subsequent page his goal is to have a picture of said object.
It all sounds pretty awesome to me. :)
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For those of you who didn't see, there will be a teaser for WoK in the back of the WB paper back which comes out the end of March.
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Brandon has read the first half of the prologue at several signings throughout this year. I'm not sure he's read the second half. But the whole thing will be in the back of Warbreaker. (Though he may also be adding an earlier prologue in the final book.) Most people who have read it say it is kickawesome.
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Is the earlier one the one with Szeth? If so I would be inclined to agree.
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The one he's been reading, and the one in the back of Warbreaker, is the one with Szeth.
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i assume ur talking about the warbreaker paperback right? when is that scheduled to come out anyways?
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But the whole thing will be in the back of Warbreaker.
which comes out the end of March.
;D
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Brandon has read the first half of the prologue at several signings throughout this year. I'm not sure he's read the second half. But the whole thing will be in the back of Warbreaker. (Though he may also be adding an earlier prologue in the final book.) Most people who have read it say it is kickawesome.
Yes. It is kickawesome. The Szeth sections are some of the best in the novel. You will all see. I'm done teasing...for now.
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Brandon has read the first half of the prologue at several signings throughout this year. I'm not sure he's read the second half. But the whole thing will be in the back of Warbreaker. (Though he may also be adding an earlier prologue in the final book.) Most people who have read it say it is kickawesome.
Yes. It is kickawesome. The Szeth sections are some of the best in the novel. You will all see. I'm done teasing...for now.
Who is Szeth.. give me more info. I DESIRE IT!
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Brandon has read the first half of the prologue at several signings throughout this year. I'm not sure he's read the second half. But the whole thing will be in the back of Warbreaker. (Though he may also be adding an earlier prologue in the final book.) Most people who have read it say it is kickawesome.
Yes. It is kickawesome. The Szeth sections are some of the best in the novel. You will all see. I'm done teasing...for now.
Who is Szeth.. give me more info. I DESIRE IT!
A character, who can do really aweome stuff.
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Brandon has read the first half of the prologue at several signings throughout this year. I'm not sure he's read the second half. But the whole thing will be in the back of Warbreaker. (Though he may also be adding an earlier prologue in the final book.) Most people who have read it say it is kickawesome.
Yes. It is kickawesome. The Szeth sections are some of the best in the novel. You will all see. I'm done teasing...for now.
Who is Szeth.. give me more info. I DESIRE IT!
A character, who can do really aweome stuff.
Like.. how awesome? Meh.. August is too far away.
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Brandon has read the first half of the prologue at several signings throughout this year. I'm not sure he's read the second half. But the whole thing will be in the back of Warbreaker. (Though he may also be adding an earlier prologue in the final book.) Most people who have read it say it is kickawesome.
Yes. It is kickawesome. The Szeth sections are some of the best in the novel. You will all see. I'm done teasing...for now.
Who is Szeth.. give me more info. I DESIRE IT!
A character, who can do really aweome stuff.
Like.. how awesome?
Awesomely awesome, obviously.
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You remember how cool it was the first time Goku finally went Super Sayan? Yeah, about that cool. ;)
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Sad that I'm missing out on kickawesomeness. :(
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Like.. how awesome? Meh.. August is too far away.
The end of March (when the Szeth prologue comes out in the back of the Warbreaker paperback) is closer than August.
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You remember how cool it was the first time Goku finally went Super Sayan? Yeah, about that cool. ;)
YAY Way of Kings has Saiyans! Wait.. I read that wrong I thinks.
Like.. how awesome? Meh.. August is too far away.
The end of March (when the Szeth prologue comes out in the back of the Warbreaker paperback) is closer than August.
Yes it is, my good chap.. yes it is.
New reason to whine:
March is too far away! :( :D
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I'll give a hint of how awesome... there's control of gravity type coolness.
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What I now want to know is how to pronounce Szeth, and if it's possible to do it without showering anyone in front of you. ;)
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I'm probably way wrong, but I combine the s and the z sound.
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I'm probably way wrong, but I combine the s and the z sound.
Oh, I was just being silly. :)
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I'm probably way wrong, but I combine the s and the z sound.
Oh, I was just being silly. :)
Silent s anybody? :D
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I've heard Brandon say it, and I can't hear a difference between Szeth and Zeth.
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I've heard Brandon say it, and I can't hear a difference between Szeth and Zeth.
Yay I win!
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I like the cool s/z sound I make. xD
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I like the cool s/z sound I make. xD
I'd love to see that.
"It's pronounced SSSSSZZeth"
It's hard to say like that.
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It's not too hard. You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.
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It's not too hard. You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.
I totally just tried to say Szeth with an S while in front of my computer @ work and my co-workers thought I was having a seizure from staring at my screen too long.
HAH
Still think its too hard.
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That just made my day.
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That just made my day.
Welcome!
New sig attach to commemorate the occasion.
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Nice, I think that's the first time anyone's put me in their sig.
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I totally just tried to say Szeth with an S while in front of my computer @ work and my co-workers thought I was having a seizure from staring at my screen too long.
:D
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but during the Hero of Ages tour Brandon read an excerpt from the middle of the series - it was a chapter about a man who 'wore white on the day he went to kill a king' or something like that. I can't remember the exact details but it was very cool.
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That would be the prologue of Way of Kings.
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Wow, really? That's surprising in a very cool way because I'm 99% certain he said it was from a later book and wouldn't spoil anything.
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Did it include a couple of unlucky guards?
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My memory's a bit rusty because this is a year ago. I don't remember any guards. I do remember he had been hired to wear white and he didn't question why, because he was an assassin. Maybe so he'd be disguised as a priest? He was slowly walking through this castle-type place, and there was a celebration? Or maybe a bonfire?
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Perhaps it was another time when someone was being assassinated.
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Judging by the setting and the politics of the world we've been told about, I imagine assassinations are fairly common.
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You're definitely talking about the prologue. That's not to say it was necessarily the prologue back then when Brandon read it to you.
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Very cool, thanks!
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It's not too hard. You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.
That's actually impossible to do. :) Z is what is called a "voiced" version of the same sound as S- that is, you're making a buzzing sound in your throat while pronouncing it. It's an on/off thing, so you can't do both at once unless you are blessed with two heads. ;)
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Or, at least, two vocal cords. I've heard that's rare but happens.
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It's not too hard. You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.
That's actually impossible to do. :) Z is what is called a "voiced" version of the same sound as S- that is, you're making a buzzing sound in your throat while pronouncing it. It's an on/off thing, so you can't do both at once unless you are blessed with two heads. ;)
You like change the way you position your teeth. I promise you can do it. xD Also a weird thing with your tongue. It's like instead of using air to make the hiss you use the buzz to make the hiss.
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It's not too hard. You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.
That's actually impossible to do. :) Z is what is called a "voiced" version of the same sound as S- that is, you're making a buzzing sound in your throat while pronouncing it. It's an on/off thing, so you can't do both at once unless you are blessed with two heads. ;)
You like change the way you position your teeth. I promise you can do it. xD Also a weird thing with your tongue. It's like instead of using air to make the hiss you use the buzz to make the hiss.
Okay, now I'm convinced you are obsessed Miyabi. If you are taking hours to perfect your pronunciation of Szeth. I'm scared now. :D
You like.. found a new way to SPEAK just for BS. ;D
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It's not too hard. You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.
That's actually impossible to do. :) Z is what is called a "voiced" version of the same sound as S- that is, you're making a buzzing sound in your throat while pronouncing it. It's an on/off thing, so you can't do both at once unless you are blessed with two heads. ;)
You like change the way you position your teeth. I promise you can do it. xD Also a weird thing with your tongue. It's like instead of using air to make the hiss you use the buzz to make the hiss.
Okay, now I'm convinced you are obsessed Miyabi. If you are taking hours to perfect your pronunciation of Szeth. I'm scared now. :D
You like.. found a new way to SPEAK just for BS. ;D
If I understand Miyabi, it's painfully easy. ;)
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You like change the way you position your teeth. I promise you can do it. xD Also a weird thing with your tongue. It's like instead of using air to make the hiss you use the buzz to make the hiss.
The difference between the sounds doesn't involve the teeth or the tongue, but maybe you're doing something different entirely, like making a 'Zh'* sound.
* IPA symbol for 'Zh' is [ʒ], and it's the sound at the end of the word massage.
edit: spelling
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Like this?
Sssszzzeth. Zzzzseth. Zszszszszszszszzzsssss.
Oh now look what you've done. Now my keyboard is all wet. ;)
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I really don't see why it's so hard. I say it out loud I can distinctly hear both the z and the s sound. . . o.e It doesn't sound like 'zh'. . . Maybe I'm making the "z" in the middle or back of my mouth? Yeah, it's kind of like I'm not making the 'z' with my teeth, it's further back in my mouth.
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I really don't see why it's so hard. I say it out loud I can distinctly hear both the z and the s sound. . . o.e It doesn't sound like 'zh'. . . Maybe I'm making the "z" in the middle or back of my mouth? Yeah, it's kind of like I'm not making the 'z' with my teeth, it's further back in my mouth.
As I mentioned above, it's impossible to both buzz your throat and not buzz it at the same time. I suppose you could also start out not buzzing it and transition to the voiced consonant, but that's not the same thing as saying them both at once. (and it makes you sound like an insect! :) )
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I have to side with Ari. Sure, it's possible to hear the s sound while you say the z sound. But that's because of area of articulation: the z sound is just the s sound with buzzing added. You ALWAYS make an s sound when you make a z sound. It's impossible to make a z sound without making an s sound. What the air does through your lips is the same; the only difference is what it does in the rest of your mouth.
However, it is also possible that you have idiosyncratic articulation. It is possible to make a sound that sounds pretty much the same while using a different articulation point. It's possible that you typically use different articulation points when you say s from the ones you use to say z, and what you're doing now is using the same articulation point instead. That might make it sound to you like you're making both sounds at once.
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I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.
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I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.
Ima stick with the theory that you have become obsessive and have modified your genes so that your mouth can now handle a whole new way of speaking.
:D
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I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.
Ima stick with the theory that you have become obsessive and have modified your genes so that your mouth can now handle a whole new way of speaking.
:D
Either that or Miyabi has two voice boxes and is buzzing with one of them and not with the other. ;D
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I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.
Ima stick with the theory that you have become obsessive and have modified your genes so that your mouth can now handle a whole new way of speaking.
:D
You'd be surprised what some of us would do as fans of Brandon Sanderson.
I for one spent an entire afternoon learning to speak Eastern Slang. After all, Fanning of the wasing am I! 8)
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Is it at all similar to Czar?
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Speaking of the eastern style being of the silver starred above the norm.
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I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.
Ima stick with the theory that you have become obsessive and have modified your genes so that your mouth can now handle a whole new way of speaking.
:D
You'd be surprised what some of us would do as fans of Brandon Sanderson.
I for one spent an entire afternoon learning to speak Eastern Slang. After all, Fanning of the wasing am I! 8)
Oh, I know. I've practiced drawing fluid Aons for days while I was reading Elantris over again.
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Yeah? I drink metal flakes.
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Thering is being abling of eastern slang to speaking more Mi'ch and Me than?
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Nope none of that now... we still need to find out how we can go coin hopping first...... all other fan killing time can wait...
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Is it at all similar to Czar?
That's the way I've thought of it.
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Czar is pronounced zar or tsar. Szeth is not pronounced tseth.
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Then I've been mispronouncing "czar". I always thought there was a subvocal "s" sound at the beginning, a little bit of "sss" leading into the "z".
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Ink that's just weird... can't you spell it as tsar or czar
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You want SENSE out of me?
Pshaw.
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It's actually spelled царь.
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It's actually spelled царь.
Oh very funny, sir. Very funny indeed. ::)
Actually, that did make me chuckle.
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Am I now expected to read the russian alphabet?
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I'm amazed at how long this topic has lasted.
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Don't you love tangents?
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Am I now expected to read the russian alphabet?
Psh. Antagonist of the Ages my foot. Aren't you supposed to be omniscient?
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OMNIPOTENT!!!!!!! Chaos they are getting us confused again!!!!!!!!!!
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Anyone know what this book is going to be about?
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Moggle, Brandon has revealed the most information about Way of Kings over in the Barnes & Noble book clubs thread. He will also be posting about it on his website in the coming months.
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Fantasy-Science-Fiction/Post-Questions-For-Brandon-Sanderson-Here/td-p/354645
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If you're Omnipotent, then you'd be able to go to Russia and ask what it means ;)
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I know what it means... it was czar what i asked was "Am I now expected to read the russian alphabet"
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Why wouldn't an omnipotent being be able to make him/herself omniscient? Isn't the concept of omnipotence limitless power?
Ooh, erm... tangent much?
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Why wouldn't an omnipotent being be able to make him/herself omniscient?
In my omniscience, I concur that Wolfstar has a point. Fail on Kaz's part.
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B/c I refuse to break my contract with dead Adonalism.... pwned!
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Moggle, Brandon has revealed the most information about Way of Kings over in the Barnes & Noble book clubs thread. He will also be posting about it on his website in the coming months.
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Fantasy-Science-Fiction/Post-Questions-For-Brandon-Sanderson-Here/td-p/354645
Way of Kings website section, anyone? <.< >.>
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I read the summary of what WOK was about and I can't make heads or tails of the story. I guess I'll have to read it to really find out.
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People may be interested to read this blog post from 2004: http://brandonsanderson.com/blog/29/Tor-Proposal-Part-Four
As you can see, the series name has changed. There are other differences: the immortal character has been put off for a later book, and the massive war spoken of hasn't started yet (there's a different war in the new book one). The overall plot of the series has not changed, but what happens in the first book is dramatically different.
A curiosity: In the first version of Way of Kings, Brandon had actually put the seafaring nation of Svorden in the book. That was before Elantris got picked up.
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People may be interested to read this blog post from 2004: http://brandonsanderson.com/blog/29/Tor-Proposal-Part-Four
As you can see, the series name has changed. There are other differences: the immortal character has been put off for a later book, and the massive war spoken of hasn't started yet (there's a different war in the new book one). The overall plot of the series has not changed, but what happens in the first book is dramatically different.
A curiosity: In the first version of Way of Kings, Brandon had actually put the seafaring nation of Svorden in the book. That was before Elantris got picked up.
I'd been meaning to ask about the conservation from Oathshards to SLA.
I'm still curious (but I doubt I'll get an answer soon) if those 10 "angelic beings who have been driven insane" are the actual shards (what IS a shard without a host?!), dedicated hosts (like HoA) or are they something else entirely with something akin to immortality (like Elantrians or Returned)?
If the 10 are actual shards/hosts then this would explain what had previously been mentioned about a large number (30 I think it was?) of magic systems.
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They are called the Heralds. Beyond that, I don't know, but I doubt they each had/have a shard. That's a lot of shards.
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They are called the Heralds. Beyond that, I don't know, but I doubt they each had/have a shard. That's a lot of shards.
Any information is more than I had! Thank you!
At least I know what to call them now when I wildly speculate.
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They are called the Heralds. Beyond that, I don't know, but I doubt they each had/have a shard. That's a lot of shards.
Any information is more than I had! Thank you!
At least I know what to call them now when I wildly speculate.
New thread: Wild speculations that have almost no actual fact to back it.
Go go go!
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This review from forum member Sigyn has some truth in it...
http://www.amazon.com/review/R3N25HHSTFIGMD/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
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hahaa... it's true. The horses are awesome.