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Title: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 19, 2009, 08:16:46 AM
Here's your new grumpy thread.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 19, 2009, 08:44:03 AM
So, I went to an Allred (http://allredmusic.com) CD release concert tonight. This is a band that I have followed from the beginning, when they were playing at 5 buck venues with a bunch of other local bands. They've gotten bigger, they've been touring and performing a lot, and the improvement I've seen is massive. The concert was fantastic.

Unfortunately, the crowd sucked. They wouldn't stop yapping through the whole show. You could hear the crowd yammering over every song (because this isn't a blast-your-eardrums-out band). The lead singer even commented at one point how loud it was. I wanted to pull out a Giant Hand of Smacking and smack them all upside the head.

BTW, here's an iTunes link to the CD (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=305566457&id=305566451&s=143441).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 19, 2009, 09:24:22 AM
Alexis is sick.  She drank too much and is throwing up.  Ewwy.  I don't do well with vomit.  Like . . . it makes me sick to even smell it a little.  I feel like a bad friend because everyone is helping her out except me.  I can't do anything or else I'll puke everywhere because I just don't get along with vomit in any way shape or form.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 19, 2009, 09:51:19 AM
As the antigrump, I must say.  Coffee is good.  Coffee is nice.  Coffee is my friend.

mmmmmm can you smell it brewing?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 19, 2009, 10:11:24 AM
The spice must flow! (http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/071003.html)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 19, 2009, 03:22:16 PM
Who's Alexis?  :o
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on April 19, 2009, 03:56:24 PM
As the antigrump, I must say.  Coffee is good.  Coffee is nice.  Coffee is my friend.

mmmmmm can you smell it brewing?

Coffee is like the greatest drink on the planet.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 19, 2009, 04:16:45 PM
Do you take it decaf or regular?

Umm…the new title is very…um…interesting.  :-\
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 19, 2009, 08:58:58 PM
I drink caf for flavor so I'm okay with decaf as long as it tastes good.  Maxwell House decaf French Roast works for me, but I have no conviction against caffeine either so I'm good with a "Starbucks Tall Mocha no Whip".
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 19, 2009, 11:36:32 PM
I've actually never had a regular coffee (I just realized that)–I've only had decaf. But I like it. But  my parents don't let me drink much of it 'cause it's not good for you/kids/stunts your growth.  :-\
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 20, 2009, 02:53:45 AM
Who's Alexis?  :o
She's my best friend.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 20, 2009, 03:00:14 AM
Does she drink coffee?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 20, 2009, 03:01:18 AM
No, she dislikes it.  ha ha.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 20, 2009, 03:10:15 AM
WHY?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 20, 2009, 03:24:51 AM
I dunno.  She just doesn't like it.  Luckily, my jacket came clean . . . >>'  I wasn't sure it would.  It was icky.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 20, 2009, 04:16:55 AM
Heh. Is coffee like football in that it's inconceivable for most people that someone somewhere might not like it?

Even though I've never had coffee (grew up Mormon), I'm not sure I'd like it anyway. The smell has always made me feel nauseous. I had several teachers growing up who'd tote around a thermos of coffee, and I'd always leave their classes feeling faintly ill.

I also don't know what the big deal is with caffeine. Drinking large amounts of Dr. Pepper has never had any noticeable effect on me, the way people say caffeine is supposed to. I'm weird.  :-\
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 20, 2009, 04:39:17 AM
I like neither coffee nor football. Which surprises people who are familiar with my sleep schedule.

Current source of grumpiness: After spending all semester having to use this one computer lab on campus (which is a 40 minute drive from where I live) because my computer at home wouldn't run Neverwinter Nights (yes, this was actually for a class), now, NOW that I don't need to use NWN for assignments any more, I've got it working at home. ::)

Also: Plot holes.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on April 20, 2009, 04:50:11 AM
Ryos-- maybe you've just become desensitized to caffeine. Maybe it's like me and sugar. I no longer get any kind of a sugar rush at all when I eat a bunch of chocolate....or whatever. What would make another person bounce off the walls does absolutely nothing to me.

And I feel the same way about coffee. I have tasted it. Not the drink but the flavor, and I don't care for it one iota....

And grumpiness. I can't breathe. And it's not because of my bronchitis. My congestion moved from my nose to my throat. I hate phlegm.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 20, 2009, 07:51:41 AM
I'm the same way as sugar, but I avoid caffeine in general (not a big fan of any kind of drug).

Grumpiness:  Must sleep soon so I can work tomorrow.  Alack.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 20, 2009, 04:43:44 PM
Caffeine gives me nasty mood-swings makes me act all female and PMS...it's freaky...anyways I've heard someone say how can something smell so good and taste so bad and i heartily agree!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 20, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
So I've decided that I am going to start vlogging.  The only problem is is that my computer comes with none of the software to accomplish this. ha ha.  So now I'm trying to find a few different decent freeware programs to do it that will work with my hardware.  I'm annoyed more than grumpy though I guess.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 20, 2009, 08:19:49 PM
Facebook. I loathe facebook and everything to do with it.

Why can't everyone who wants to know about us just sign up for the band's email blast and leave it at that -.-
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 20, 2009, 08:29:28 PM
What is your band?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 20, 2009, 08:51:59 PM
The Mark Rose Big Band. We're a 20-piece band that plays jazz, swing, Latin, big band, plus a little bit of rock and funk music. I do trombone and vocals. :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 20, 2009, 09:48:06 PM
Here's my main grump.  Certain, Ahem, persons who are tardy about submitting or critiquing in a certain reading group.  No particular people. Just you know the types.  People who really got into Eddings books so much that they admire a certain assassin from Sendar and I dunno maybe a youngin with an inordinate fascination for a certain guitarist from S.K.I.N. :P

Those are just random characters. Pure fiction. No relation to anyone posting on this forum.  Really!  I'm serious!

:D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 21, 2009, 12:09:25 AM
Forgot poster at school. Wasn't done. 45 minutes away. Called friend. Got nosebleed. Slammed knee on table.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 21, 2009, 12:11:05 AM
Wow Shag, you had a bad day.

Silk - I'll have to check it out.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 21, 2009, 12:28:06 AM
Shag you need to pamper yourself tonight.  Do your homework, then plop down with a book, TV show or game.  You earned it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 21, 2009, 12:47:22 AM
I also have to make a history brochure, a history paper, do my english reading, study for a math quiz, study for a latin quiz, find out what my science homework is, study for a latin test, study for a spanish quiz, and start learning the music for my orchestra audition that's in two days.

Oh. And I'm getting home at 6:30 every day because of play rehearsal. So basically, at this point…my life sucks.

Thanks–I'll try, but I don't know if I'll have time.…
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 21, 2009, 01:34:18 AM
What play are you in Shaggy?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:41:57 AM
On the bright side, at least most of  your classes are cool, Shag.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 21, 2009, 01:50:53 AM
I'm pretty sure I'm not desensitized to caffeine - I rarely drink soda. However, I have been known to down large amounts of Dr. Pepper with no noticeable effects in the past.

As for sugar, I think that's due more to metabolism than anything. I don't know what a sugar high is, because instead of burning it off my body converts it to fat and tucks it away for a rainy day. I have a roommate who's skinny as a rail, and he claims he wants to get fat but can't because, if he increases his caloric intake, it just makes him super hyper.

As for grumpiness, I got sick yesterday and stayed in bed all day. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 21, 2009, 02:21:16 AM
Ryos, Green tea with ginger and honey, and a big bowl of Hot & Sour soup.  Cure's what ails ya. :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 21, 2009, 02:49:02 AM
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On the bright side, at least most of  your classes are cool, Shag.
That's true. *nods* And I enjoy them; all the work is just kind of building up.
And the weird thing at my school is, except for first term freshmen, in my school, on the Junior Schoolers (7th + 8th graders) are allowed to take 6 courses. So some of us take more than freshmen-through-seniors.

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What play are you in Shaggy?
OLIVER!

(The musical.)

FINISHED HISTORY!!!!!! (I know, if I'm happy why am I posting in the Grumpy thread, but…whatever.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 21, 2009, 06:38:49 AM
I love that musical.  Which part do you have?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 21, 2009, 06:44:30 AM
Just thinking about Oliver makes me grumpy...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 21, 2009, 07:07:32 AM
Well aren't you just the pooper! |P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 21, 2009, 07:27:43 AM
Hey, no one should be forced to put up with that musical or book.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 21, 2009, 07:47:41 AM
I've never read the book, but I always found the musical enjoyable.  Then again, I love musicals.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 21, 2009, 07:54:23 AM
I like only a very select few musicals.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 21, 2009, 08:12:35 AM
What is your favorite?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on April 21, 2009, 06:37:07 PM
Oliver is what I hate about musicals. The songs don't advance the plot—there's really no point to them in the musical besides providing music.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: readerMom on April 21, 2009, 07:23:19 PM
I recently realized I have been self-medicating depression with large amounts of caffeine and sugar: Dr. Pepper is my drug of choice.  I have been drinking 44 oz or more every day and loosing weight because that's all I ingest during the day.
Didn't have any this weekend and figured out what was going on.  I have  a real Dr appt this Fri.
Shaggy, looking at your schedule made me realized how much I don't miss school.  I rarely have a crazy schedule like that anymore, because as an adult, I tell people to go away when things get too much, except for my children and they are easily appeased with pizza and a new (rental) video game.
Yes, I am an evil mother, but only when my Dr. Pepper runs out.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 21, 2009, 08:55:06 PM
This post brought to you you by "Those who are at least one thread page behind"!

I know how the "fun classes, but totally overwhelming" thing goes. I was in all "fun" classes this semester, and I honestly barely made it through. I've been pulling one all-nighter a week like clockwork for the last ... month and a half, at least? just in an attempt to get things done.

Miyabi: The link to my band is in my signature. (It still says "swing" instead of "big band", I should probably change it to "Big Band" now...) There are no sound samples on the website yet 'cause I haven't had time. But I will in the next week or so. :D

Renoard: Certain people who probably would've enjoyed the one Eddings book they've actually read a lot more if they'd discovered Eddings ten years ago haven't been submitting or critting because they've been too busy frantically trying to finish the book they said would be done a week ago. Certain people who admit that a certain assassin from Sendar actually kind of cool also figure they should wait until they're not so exhausted they can barely string sentences together to start giving opinions on peoples' work.

Besides, "tardy" implies a deadline. I wasn't aware we had one, not for this group. ;)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 21, 2009, 09:03:12 PM
The overuse of dude and like are really starting to get on my nerves...it makes me want to make sure certain individuals with hold from passing on their genes...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 21, 2009, 09:11:05 PM
Although, on the plus side, they'll make for really comical old people.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 21, 2009, 09:54:11 PM
@Silk Snicker.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 21, 2009, 10:50:21 PM
So considering you are big band/swing are you guys similar to Cherry Poppin' Daddies at all?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 21, 2009, 11:49:35 PM
I'm Oliver in OLIVER!

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Oliver is what I hate about musicals. The songs don't advance the plot—there's really no point to them in the musical besides providing music.
Have you ever seen the play? If no, then see it before you speak. If yes, then listen to the words. They actually do advance the plot (in certain songs) and introduce new ideas/people/things (you want an example? the "It's a Fine Life" Reprise). And the music is really cool, so.…

Silk, I totally empathize with you. Totally.

I like the musical AND the book.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 21, 2009, 11:50:11 PM
@miyabi That was odd.

Did you see the mess you started over in multiple wives?  I know it was daman. But you are easier to blame. :P

Silk. That Eddings fan of yours sounds like he's very busy.  Fortuantely I was referring to a fictional character.  Hope that book comes along.  And pardon my impatience.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on April 21, 2009, 11:53:36 PM
To give Silk some credit, she didn't actually dub herself that. That was Monsta and me. Well...mostly Monsta. I picked up on it pretty fast, but he's the one that initially said Silk. I said Edmond Dantes...Silk worked better....Oh, and this is just a minor detail, but the character Silk actually isn't a Sendar. He's a Drasnian. :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 21, 2009, 11:55:56 PM
What is this from?  ???
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on April 21, 2009, 11:58:11 PM
Silk is a character in the Belgariad by David Eddings. First book, Pawn of Prophecy. The dubbing of Silk (or Raethe, as she was known back then) was in the These Stupid Titles VI thread, on page about 41...or somewhere in that region....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 22, 2009, 12:00:56 AM
I'll have to admit it's been a long time since C'Nedra had me grinding my teeth and I wanted to bash Murgos. :)  Sorry to have misrepresented Silk's ethnicity.

:)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on April 22, 2009, 12:05:31 AM
Haha. Yeah. Ce'Nedra will do that to you...And bashing Murgos. So what, you're going to the Hettar school of hunting? Maybe? And it's okay. I'm sure Silk would forgive you. And if he didn't, then it wouldn't matter anyway, because you'd be dead. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 22, 2009, 12:47:56 AM
Oh, I see now. That was before I was there.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 22, 2009, 01:34:26 AM
Miyabi: Yes, some of the music we do is in a pretty similar style to those guys.

Hey. Hey. I should make them let me sing Zoot Suit Riot! I'd totally be a hit with that song.

"The dubbing of Silk" sounds very formal. And I love how Wilson knows not only the thread, but the page number...

Renoard: He's a pretty busy character. People keep describing him with words like "masochist" and "workaholic", whihc, for the record, totally don't apply to me. Especially 'cause we're talking about fictional characters here. *cough*

Thanks! The book is coming along nicely and WILL be done soon, or else I'll explode. Or maybe implode.

Maybe bring an umbrella, just in case.

PS: This Silk, at least, forgives you for mixing up Silk's ethnicity, as she didn't pick up on the discrepancy to begin with... ;)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 22, 2009, 02:35:36 AM
Your italics are messed up.  ;D

I still have to do my math homework. Oy-boy…………………………………
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 22, 2009, 02:46:38 AM
I have approximately another 50,000 words to write, if that makes you feel better.

I messed 'em up on purpose. I like a little variety. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 22, 2009, 02:54:25 AM
Isn't that…a lot??  ???

lol sounds good

does anyone know how to spell 'oye ve?' (OY VAY)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 22, 2009, 02:57:10 AM
Yes. Yes it is.

Oy vey? Oi vey? Oi vay?

No, I don't really know. I'm just making stuff up. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 22, 2009, 03:01:36 AM
Ugh. I will never get French. (I take Spanish. Much easier.  :P)

[And Latin, which is sometimes ridiculous how varying in difficulty certain parts of it can be.]
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 22, 2009, 03:02:15 AM
I love Spanish and Latin both.

:D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 22, 2009, 03:03:05 AM
Me, too. I find the class of Spanish boring 'cause it's really basic but I enjoy the language itself. And my Latin teacher is great, so…that's cool.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 22, 2009, 03:10:57 AM
50K isn't that much when compared to the 600K of a Jordan novel. :P

Is it about a fifth? Six chapters or so?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 22, 2009, 03:11:50 AM
Ten million dollars isn't much when compared to the billions that the USA is in debt.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 22, 2009, 03:12:14 AM
Shaggy:  Hey, French is, like, great.  And because I know French, Spanish is, like, a piece of cake, dude.

Miyabi:  Dude, Les Mis and Newsies are like probably my favorites.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 22, 2009, 03:13:23 AM
…Are you talking like that on purpose??


Um…I know they're both Romance languages but…are they really that interconnected??  ???

I LOVE Les Miserables!!!!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 22, 2009, 03:18:27 AM
Les Mis is okay.  I'd say Phantom and Gigi are my favorites.  Fiddler is a close second.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 22, 2009, 03:20:00 AM
The 8th Grade French class is taking a trip to see Phantom of the Opera (I assume that's what you are talking about) on Thursday. LUCKY!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 22, 2009, 03:38:04 AM
50K isn't that much when compared to the 600K of a Jordan novel. :P

Is it about a fifth? Six chapters or so?

No, but I'm not writing sprawling epics like Jordan. And the manuscript entire will still be about 150,000 when I'm done with it, which I like to think is a decent length. :P

Isn't AMOL the only novel that's gone over 400k anyway?

Gah, I feel so unread. Or, unwatched I guess. Haven't seen a lot of the classic musicals, even though I'm familiar with the soundtracks of some of them.

I probably should. Seeing as I'm writing one and all.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 22, 2009, 03:52:38 AM
@ silk I was exaggerating a bit for emphasis.

@ Shaggy I did mean Phantom of the Opera.  But the full title always reminds me of a 1930's horror flick that was NOT as good as Weber's version.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 22, 2009, 04:25:20 AM
Spanish has some really fiddly grammar bits. Just wait until you get to subjunctive forms and all the odd ways you're supposed to use them.

Also, remembering all the conjugations of words that don't follow the rules and keeping all the command forms straight can be a pain. Not to mention that, when speaking Spanish (or any Romance language) keeping the gender of articles and adjectives consistent with the words they modify is a real and embarrassing problem. I don't know how native speakers do it so naturally that they get the gender of words like "chunche" (thingy) right even though the whole reason they're using "chunche" is because they can't remember the word they're thinking of!

Ugh. I'm grumpy right now because I'm realizing how much Spanish I've forgotten in the 5 years since my mission...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 22, 2009, 04:33:48 AM
Subjunctive isn't all that difficult.

The native speakers do it the same way we do it. As irregular as English is, I'm glad I didn't have to learn it as a second language - but we use it all the time without thinking. It's internalized.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 22, 2009, 05:30:52 AM
Jade - Have you seen Thoroughly Modern Milley?  It's one of my favorites.  That and Wicked.

Silk - If you ever record that song I definitely want an e-mail with it attached. haha.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 22, 2009, 05:34:02 AM
To whomever asked:  Yes, French and Spanish are quite similar.  But Spanish is easier for French speakers because French uses crazy weird pronunciation rules, whereas Spanish pronunciation is obvious (and similar to French spelling).  I can often even guess Spanish words from French.

And yes, I was talking like that on purpose.  To spite whoever didn't like it... I'm irritating, that way.

Not 100% sure, Miyabi.  I saw a number of old musicals which I'd mostly rather just forget.

I will say that I like Phantom and Fiddler too.  I just don't like most musicals.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 22, 2009, 05:39:50 AM
I see.  That's sad.  I really enjoy musicals.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 22, 2009, 05:43:21 AM
You and one of my best friends, evidently.  He's spent $150 this semester alone on going out to see (local, not-that-expensive) musicals.  And of course my whole family likes them (save me)... blech.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 22, 2009, 06:00:53 AM
My grandfather and I spent like $300 last time we were in NYC just to see ONE musical.  Ha ha.  It was Monty Python's Spamalot
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 22, 2009, 07:08:10 AM
If I ever record that one, Miyabi, you'll be the first to know. :)

Recording original songs, though, is MUCH less fuss :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 22, 2009, 02:48:36 PM
@Shaggy for pointing out my spelling errors i will inform you that our government is in approximately 10 trillion dollars of debt...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 23, 2009, 12:47:10 AM
10 trillion is equal to 10,000 billion so I'm actually not wrong.…


(10,000,000,000,000= 10,000 x 1,000,000,000)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 23, 2009, 01:18:52 AM
yeah and one thousand hundred thousands is a million the fact is the number has a name so you keep it simple and it said 10 when i read it i recall no thousand...anyways this has nothing to contribute other than making OTHERS grumpy.. :o
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 23, 2009, 01:26:43 AM
Well…one definition of 'flavor' is 'a kind or type of something,' so making OTHERS grumpy would be grumpiness in 'New…Flavours,' so.…

Yeah I'm just saying trillions is also billions. It's just more of them.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 23, 2009, 01:30:33 AM
1 thousand billions equals 1 trillion we all know basic math....and yes i MUST have the last word...i'm evil like that



P.S. Jade don't smite me!!!!! :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 23, 2009, 01:40:11 AM
I'm pretty sure 1 million billions does not equal 1 trillion.…
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 23, 2009, 01:43:45 AM
yes well i dont have that many fingers shaggy...and i deny everything
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 23, 2009, 01:56:07 AM
Hahaha good one. But…calculator. Dat is all.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 23, 2009, 09:16:23 AM
If you're British then it's perfectly accurate to say the US Government is billions in debt, because in England, a trillion is called a billion.

Yeah, I know. I don't get it either.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 23, 2009, 10:09:04 AM
Actually, Britain abandoned the long scale in 1974, so this isn't true any more.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 23, 2009, 10:13:24 AM
Wow. You guys are great for trivia.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 23, 2009, 10:14:44 AM
Wikipedia helps...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 23, 2009, 10:53:17 PM
So do brains.  :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Reaves on April 23, 2009, 11:42:10 PM
Braaaains...  :o
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 24, 2009, 12:01:32 AM
I just thought of a really good dig but I'm not gonna say it 'cause I'm a nice per–…oh can I say it? please please please?!?!?

 :P

(@ REAVES)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 24, 2009, 12:59:37 AM
Go for it Shaggy.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 24, 2009, 01:10:08 AM
Quote
Braaaains...
Please, Reaves. Focus less on what you wish you had and more on what you do have.

Reading it over…it actually wasn't that good. *shrug* whatever
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: benvolio3 on April 24, 2009, 02:51:16 AM
What!!! Britain abandoned the long scale? noooo! My life has been turned upside down!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 24, 2009, 02:52:27 AM
Um…why does that matter?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: benvolio3 on April 24, 2009, 03:09:49 AM
It doesn't matter, it just seemed like the right thing to say... maybe not...

but on much more important matters, I found out today that I have a higher chance at not dying of heart problems than someone who lives in Alaska or Minnesota  :-\
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 24, 2009, 03:36:59 AM
That seems like . . . completely backwards as to what it should be.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 24, 2009, 11:45:55 PM
I guess that's good.  :-X
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 24, 2009, 11:58:24 PM
It is ironic that Britain abandoned the Imperial scale while we hold onto "standard" measure.  But I'm firmly committed to standard measure. It's organic.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 25, 2009, 12:03:25 AM
I don't see how it matters.  ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 25, 2009, 12:11:12 AM
Irony is a necessary component of sentient beings. Yep!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 25, 2009, 12:28:50 AM
Um…not really.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 27, 2009, 04:58:30 PM
Current source of grumpiness: nosebleeds.

Literally woke up to one, and now all I can taste is blood.

:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 27, 2009, 05:05:09 PM
That always sucks.  Try putting a humidifier in your room and turning it on while you sleep.  That helps my sister and me a lot.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 27, 2009, 07:36:51 PM
Thanks. That makes a lot of sense, actually. I'll see if I can give it a go...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Tink on April 27, 2009, 08:45:20 PM
The musical that I really liked is The Scarlet Pimpernel. That play was hilarious. I have a feeling I'd like Wicked and Spamalot too, if I ever had the chance to see them.

My grumpiness: I found out I had strep throat. But that's old news because I got antibiotics and now I feel SOOOOO much better!! (i.e. not wanting to die every time I swallow)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 27, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
The tornadoe warning has passed but the winds brought me a **** load of allergens, im not happy about it...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 27, 2009, 11:43:35 PM
*cough* tornado *cough*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 28, 2009, 03:56:30 AM
My nosebleeds usually dry out by the time I notice them.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: benvolio3 on April 28, 2009, 04:14:12 AM
I can count the number of nosebleeds I've had in my life on one finger... but who's to say I might not have another in the far or near future...  ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 28, 2009, 08:15:29 PM
Shaggy just for the record....you blow...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: SarahG on April 28, 2009, 09:12:09 PM
I can count the number of nosebleeds I've had in my life on one finger... but who's to say I might not have another in the far or near future...  ::)

I never used to have nosebleeds (maybe 5 in my life) until about 6 months ago, since which point I've been having about one per week, always in the right nostril.  It's very bizarre.  I can't decide whether they're caused by pregnancy or by having my upper right wisdom tooth extracted.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 28, 2009, 09:23:41 PM
Dehydration in the sinuses causes nosebleeds a lot of the time.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 28, 2009, 09:44:40 PM
I get nosebleeds a fair bunch. They're VERY annoying.


[EDIT: grammar]
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 28, 2009, 11:11:07 PM
One solution to chronic nosebleeds that I've seen given is to put vaseline on a tissue and cram it up your nostril. Do that periodically, and you shouldn't have too many issues with dehydration-induced nosebleeds.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 28, 2009, 11:14:59 PM
That would feel…funny.  :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 29, 2009, 01:00:13 AM
Preserved Saline inhalent helps too, and doesn't involve oily nasal tampons. . .

sorry. couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 29, 2009, 01:01:19 AM
Wtf are you talking about??
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 29, 2009, 01:05:02 AM
I have a prescribed cream that does it actually... I should find it again...

Snrk.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 29, 2009, 02:15:25 AM
What's it called?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 29, 2009, 02:27:22 AM
The Ringing Horn I think
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 29, 2009, 02:55:26 AM
Hmm…*scratches head* was that a joke, a true statement, or an insult to my intelligence?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 29, 2009, 04:01:14 AM
All of the above...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 29, 2009, 04:22:25 AM
*blinks a few times*

Either I'm very, thoroughly confused, or Renoard just told me to stick my book up my nose.

If you didn't like it, man, you shoulda just said so in your crit :P

Ahem.

I think it's called Secaris. I don't even remember. But yeah, it's just a moisturizer.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 29, 2009, 04:27:54 AM
no I think there was a bug in the forum, I thought I was responding to a post that asked what your book was called. :)

Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 29, 2009, 05:03:32 AM
Haha. Just as well. Otherwise the results might have been slightly uncomfortable.

Even if I'd covered the pages in Vaseline first. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 29, 2009, 05:16:59 AM
Of course that depends on the volume of your nose. . . ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 29, 2009, 03:45:34 PM
As for things that work when you sitck them up your nose....try vicks inhaler it's made from eculiptise leaves (yes i can't spell shaggy) and works well, though your nose will clog up a while afterwards which sucks
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 29, 2009, 10:35:57 PM
Also try chilies dipped in tobasco sauce and fresh ground pepper.


[That was a joke. Don't actually do that.]
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 29, 2009, 10:50:57 PM
Eating hot things does work...but only Shaggy puts weird things in his nese... :-\
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on April 29, 2009, 10:53:44 PM
And only Kazy can spell so terribly.  ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 29, 2009, 11:04:45 PM
No dyslexic people can't spell either...my excuse sucks because its laziness...I don't proof my post...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 30, 2009, 02:43:15 AM
@Renoard: I don't think my nose is quite that impressive. ::)

Current source of grumpiness - having songs that you wrote stuck in your head is pretty much the worst thing ever.

:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 30, 2009, 02:49:38 AM
Hah! Can't say I have that problem.

Speaking of which...you really need to let us know when we can hear your stuff. I love big band music (Royal Crown Revue being my favorite).

I'm grumpy...Actually, I'm in a pretty good mood right now. Call me in an hour when I'll be unpacking the piles of junk in my room and complaining that my desk was designed by little people for little people. I'll have to post pictures, just because you need to see this to believe it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 30, 2009, 03:26:31 AM
I was diagnosed dyslexic when I was 12.  I can assure you that Dslexia doesn't directly affect the ability to spell, read or learn.  It accepts perception of text.  It respondes quite well to concentrating harder, as long as someone helps you understand what's going wrong in the first place.  There are work-arounds.  You might well be dyslexic Kaz.  :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 30, 2009, 05:34:05 AM
I'll let you know when some of the big band's samples go live.

I also do my own music seperate from the BB, which I was referring to . I might try writing some original songs for the Big Band thougnh, if I can wrap my head around the genres well enough to do it. :D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 30, 2009, 05:39:59 AM
So Silk  writes swing?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on April 30, 2009, 05:48:33 AM
So I spent about 40 minutes in traffic yesterday trying to get to my local bookstore (which is about 2 miles from my house) so I could by HoA in paperback, only to find out that they did not have it. And my car got flooded Monday morning.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 30, 2009, 06:00:42 AM
Ouch! I'd be grumpy, too.

I've never actually written anything in the swing style (which is odd considering how much of it I sing/play/listen to). I think I'm going to try writing swing and a bunch of other styles of music over the summer and see what happens... I don't really write for any particular genre of music, but most of my stuff ends up as kind of rootsy/country/alternative.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on April 30, 2009, 06:11:23 AM
Do you want to feel even grumpier? You could have biked there in 15 minutes.

<3 my bike. ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on April 30, 2009, 06:13:13 AM
Dude, that's cold.  :'(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 30, 2009, 07:10:32 AM
Ha ha.  I'll bet Ink will be happy to see someone using his art as an avatar. :]]]
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on April 30, 2009, 08:09:40 AM
This is really only minorly grumpy, but...yeah. While riding bikes yesterday, I got soaked clear though all of my clothes because the rain was pouring so hard....It was bad. Also, my bronchitis that I THOUGHT I had gotten rid of may have returned. Which sucks even more....But oh well.

Good news (since I don't have time to go to the good news thread....) is I'm going to Dublin today! I'm so excited!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 30, 2009, 10:43:35 AM
[Renoard sings] (just for the gangrenous guy) On the Rocky road to Dub-uh-lin 1 2 3 4 5. . .
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: SarahG on April 30, 2009, 08:59:05 PM
Sorry about your bronchitis, Wilson.  I know you were hoping to ditch it before your trip.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 01, 2009, 03:54:12 PM
So apparently I spent $115 somewhere yesterday and it comes across my bank statement as CHKCARDBOOT BARN ORANGE CAUS . . . . . I have no idea what that is and didn't spend anywhere near that much money in one place yesterday . . . or any day in the past 6 months aside form my phone bill, which I always pay with cash. . . .
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: darxbane on May 01, 2009, 04:22:37 PM
I would have already called the bank by now, if I were you.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 01, 2009, 04:26:35 PM
I'm doing that at the moment actually. ha ha.

EDIT: So I also spent 500 dollars in LA today and bought a pair of $100 boots. . . . . . wow.  So I got the claim filed and closed the account.  Now I have to go open a new account. UGHZ
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 01, 2009, 05:53:43 PM
That sucks. At least you caught it quickly.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 01, 2009, 05:57:32 PM
Yes, that's very true.  They told me I might have to go and testify in court if they catch whoever it is.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 02, 2009, 02:33:23 AM
Was working till 11:15 last night, and I didn't even do my math homework. 'Nough said.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 02, 2009, 04:50:12 AM
Was working until 4am last night, and still not done my book. ::) Also enough said.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 02, 2009, 10:07:29 AM
This is one reason I always use my Visa to buy everything—They're super quick on refunding you when someone compomises your account.  (after all, it's their money, not yours)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 02, 2009, 04:13:15 PM
My father's wallet was possibly stolen last night.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 03, 2009, 03:35:14 AM
People casting aspersions on an entire category of literature because they've read some books in said category that do things that they don't like.

"All grown up fantasies have sex blood and guts and are therefore bad".

Ummm... No. No. It doesn't work that way.

For Pete's sake. I don't cast aspersions on what YOU write.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 03, 2009, 03:55:40 AM
Well, most of them have at least blood.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 03, 2009, 04:12:34 AM
Including the Harry Potter books (well, violence at least), which this girl is a raving fan of.  That's okay because SHE likes them. -.-

Ahem. Sorry. This kind of statement always puts my back up. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 03, 2009, 04:22:47 AM
Is this a kid who said that?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 03, 2009, 04:26:26 AM
Not even close. She's several years older than I am (I'm 21).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 03, 2009, 05:23:39 AM
I hate hypocrites like that. >:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 03, 2009, 09:08:04 AM
What REALLY irritates me is the lack of representation we have in this country.

For example:  About 25% (1 in every 4!) American voters is registered as Independent/3rd party.  Many of those who are not (such as myself) are registered with a major party but don't feel well-represented by the party we're registered with.  However, 0% of the voting members of the House of Representatives is Independent or belongs to a 3rd party.  Not a single one!  Does that show how screwed up our political system is, or what?

Furthermore, the Democrats and Republicans have teamed up to make Fusion Voting illegal in all but 7 states!  Why?  For the simple reason of giving these two parties a biopoly on politics.  Frankly, it disgusts me.

It's time American switched to a voting system which represents modern realities.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 03, 2009, 09:17:53 AM
While we're on that kick, we should do away with the electoral college.  I mean seriously ineffective and dumb.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 03, 2009, 09:19:54 AM
And to take that even further, let's do away with representative democracy. Regular democracy works just fine thanks.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 03, 2009, 09:25:25 AM
With as many bills as local, state, and federal governments go through, a complete democracy would be impossible in this nation.

I have absolutely no problem with representative republics.  On that note, I would have no problem if the electoral college actually served a function—like, for example, if we were actually voting for specific people we trusted to make appropriate decisions for us re: choosing a president.  In its current incarnation, where electors simply toe the party line and get blacklisted if they don't, however, it seems like an unnecessary expense.

If it weren't for the fact that these people get paid (AFAIK), I wouldn't have a problem with the current system… but c'mon, they get paid?!  To do what a computer could do just as well?!

I really think we need to switch from localized elections to proportional elections, however.  Life isn't local anymore.  It's global.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 03, 2009, 09:30:02 AM
I think there should be a committee that decided if something was small enough to be decided by representatives or big enough to let everyone vote.  That way they could take care of all the  minor crap, but if it was extremely important (i.e. presidential elections or amending the constitution) then every vote is counted and weighed equally.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 03, 2009, 09:39:46 AM
If that made government somehow cheaper, I could perhaps support it.  But I see absolutely no advantage to doing that if it's only going to make our government cost more.

Speaking of, I think our federal senators and reps get paid a little much.

Here in Nevada, our state legislators get what is pretty close to minimum wage.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 03, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
Sounds rather like a pair of awfully ugly shoes (Orange Caus) from a store called Boot Barn.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Reaves on May 04, 2009, 11:56:40 PM
If that made government somehow cheaper, I could perhaps support it.  But I see absolutely no advantage to doing that if it's only going to make our government cost more.

Speaking of, I think our federal senators and reps get paid a little much.


Do you know why the definition of the middle-class' upper limit is $100k ? Because every time Congress votes itself a pay raise, they change the upper limit of middle class so that it matches the salary of the least-paid member of Congress.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on May 05, 2009, 12:02:37 AM
you mean the bottom end is 100k that's bull crap...i mean the poverty level is around 24k and approx 5 times that is upper middle class? upper middle class for a typical family of four should START at around 300k... i mean the cost of living in a decent house is tremendous then add the other necessities... give me a break...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Reaves on May 05, 2009, 12:36:41 AM
I didn't quite understand your post.
Middle class starts at 25k a year.   Middle class ends at 100k a year.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 05, 2009, 01:21:53 AM
And now for something completely off-topic (and yet completely on-topic):

Money is a stupid thing to fight over.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 01:25:23 AM
Most things are stupid things to fight over.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 05, 2009, 01:30:51 AM
Haha. Touché.

Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 05, 2009, 04:46:22 AM
you mean the bottom end is 100k that's bull crap...i mean the poverty level is around 24k and approx 5 times that is upper middle class? upper middle class for a typical family of four should START at around 300k... i mean the cost of living in a decent house is tremendous then add the other necessities... give me a break...

I'm completely puzzled by your post. I'm from a family of six (four kids), and we lived very well on 100K and less. I can't conceive of a universe where a family of four NEEDS 300K a year to survive.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 05:36:10 AM
Maybe, the way the economy is going. Dollar losing value and all.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 05, 2009, 06:27:50 AM
Grumpiness: Internet Exploder. It needs to get itself some (better, any) CSS support.

There are no typos in this post.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 05, 2009, 06:53:35 AM
Move to the light side of the force and use Fire Fox.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 05, 2009, 07:10:00 AM
I do; unfortunately I can't make everyone viewing my website do the same.

:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 05, 2009, 07:16:15 AM
Of course you can.  Many websites simply lock you out if you don't have the correct browser. :]

What is it you're trying to make the CSS do?  Perhaps a bit of JavaScript/DOM would be a better way to do it?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 05, 2009, 07:26:15 AM
I'm with miyabi. Unless your website is selling something, screw IE. (I considered using milder language, but even what's there doesn't begin to express the depth of my anger and frustration towards Internet Explorer.)

Although, I wouldn't advocate locking people out. Just put a nice polite message explaining why things don't look/work right, with a link to your favorite alternative (on Windows, mine is Google Chrome. On the Mac, I use Safari. Firefox is for web development.)

Also, Silk, you may find this (http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/) to be relevant to your interests.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 05, 2009, 08:12:07 AM
(No, that doesn't begin to express what I feel towards IE, either. I'm not sure the strongest language would.)

Thanks, I'll check that out - I'm just looking to pad some div layers so that it doesn't look squished and ridiculous. For some reason, IE only seems to register top padding instead of left or right.

Silly Exploder.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 05, 2009, 08:14:33 AM
What version of IE are you using, Silk?

IE8 is Acid2 compliant.

On the note of grumpiness:  IE8 is monstrously slow, and I want to convert to Chrome.  But Chrome doesn't yet support manually filtering cookies, and that's a dealbreaker for me.

Alack, I must wait to switch to Chrome.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 05, 2009, 08:21:26 AM
7, at the moment. I suppose I should theoretically be testing in 7 and 8, but the thought breaks me.

Edit: This is more of a mild annoyance than anything I particularly plan on spending a whole lot of time on. Usually my "testing" in IE goes as far as, "does it work, check yes or no". I'm just whining 'cuz it makes my site look dumber than it already does ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 05, 2009, 08:54:29 AM
Safari now comes in new improved Windows format flavour. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 05, 2009, 06:30:35 PM
Why not instead of using padding, use their positions to do it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 05, 2009, 07:20:35 PM
I'm using floated divs. That by itself works fine in firefox (of course) but IE does this weird thing where it takes the whole thing and kind of squishes it into one corner, and it looks dumb. :( So I was going to add a bit of extra padding to space things out in the IE version, but IE doesn't seem to ... notice.

Also, IE takes away my dotted border around the div block. Which makes me sad, 'cause it looks dumb(er).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 05, 2009, 09:19:36 PM
Where's this web site? Maybe I could have a look. Floats can do odd things that you don't expect. There may be an easy fix...we'll see.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 05, 2009, 09:33:55 PM
Sure, thanks: http://melody.byethost8.com/about.php

(Just don't go to the home page right now, as I'm... experimenting. ::) )

I think I like floats better so far, but I'm pretty new to them. As in, I decided yesterday that if I had to look at my novel any longer I'd scream. I guess 30,000 words in two weeks is enough. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 05, 2009, 10:05:23 PM
Finals in two weeks. Already really, really  nervous about the math one.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 05, 2009, 10:07:37 PM
Continued in PM to avoid cluttering this thread with discussion of debugging Silk's website. :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 10:13:04 PM
Finals in two weeks. Already really, really  nervous about the math one.
Finals? What is this wretched beast you call finals?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 05, 2009, 10:15:10 PM
Um…big tests you have in certain subjects at the end of the year that encompasses all you have learned (in that year). The math one is going to be hard.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 10:24:27 PM
I have no such test this year  ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 05, 2009, 10:25:16 PM
*throws desk at Inquisitor*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 10:27:04 PM
On the other hand, I just broke the door to my room down yesterday.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on May 05, 2009, 10:44:05 PM
I'm exempt from all of my finals save accounting (book keeping is the devil's work)

Yeah b/c of swine flu Dallas is celebrating Cinco de Mayo on the 16th i mean what the hell?

As i just turned 18 my mom had to transfer my funds over to me (divorce decree says so) but she cheated me out of 300 dollars and yet it's not enough to start a fight over b/c a lawyers time is worth that per hour...im pisted
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 11:10:21 PM
Sux dude.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 05, 2009, 11:18:10 PM
Call her up and ask her very nicely if she will please return the money she borrowed from you…if that doesn't work throw a chair at her.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 11:19:42 PM
Why do your solutions always involve throwing things Shaggy?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 05, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
*throws computer at inquisitory-boy*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 11:24:54 PM
You've got to learn new techniques. Ones that aren't so easy to dodge. Like tripping someone and kicking them while they're down.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 05, 2009, 11:27:18 PM
*strokes chin thoughtfully…eyes light up…and……*

*throws mutant hippo at inquisitor*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 11:31:09 PM
*dodges* ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 05, 2009, 11:48:32 PM
:Inquisitor: *dodges…and falls into steel trap with other mutant hippo. death quickly ensues*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 05, 2009, 11:51:30 PM
And yet Inquisitor miraculously survives due to his awe-inspiring Instant Transmission. ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 06, 2009, 12:53:03 AM
*gets frustrated and pushes button of worldly destruction*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 06, 2009, 02:51:34 AM
*bows to your superior destructive power*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on May 06, 2009, 03:33:59 AM
Wow what goons...im rofling or was before typing this...and shaggy southern baptist don't do anything nicely and the fight isn't worth it
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 06, 2009, 05:50:29 AM
This forum is not a chatroom...there's no reason to keep going back and forth with the same two people.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 06, 2009, 02:31:20 PM
Back on topic, the people at the car dealership want to total my car instead of fixing it  >:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 06, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Math is really hard…we're doing Projectile Motion now and it's really confusing.  :'( Test/big-quiz next Wednesday.  :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 06, 2009, 09:11:00 PM
Math is really hard…we're doing Projectile Motion now and it's really confusing.  :'( Test/big-quiz next Wednesday.  :(

Since when is that math? Sure, you USE math, but it's a physics problem.

This is one of my pet peeves about math classes. Physics problems don't belong in the curriculum, because there isn't space to do them justice. After completing the brief section on projectile motion, you will know so little about it that you won't be able to apply it to anything real, and in the process, you learned nothing new about math.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 06, 2009, 09:15:00 PM
It's math. :::

h(t)=(-1/2)gt2+V0t+h0

This is the given, where h(t) equals the height h after t seconds, g equals the gravitation constant (either roughly 9.8 meters per second or roughly 32 feet per second), t equals the time in seconds, V0 equals the intial velocity, and h0 equals the initial height.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 06, 2009, 10:06:02 PM
That's a result derived from Newton's laws that can only be applied in specific situations. Which you'll learn...if you take physics in college. What mathematical tool do you gain by learning that? None! To apply that function, all you need is simple arithmetic (and maybe algebra to solve for an unknown). They're not teaching math - they're teaching a physics tool of limited application.

What business does the math department have teaching physics? That was the point of my rant.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 06, 2009, 10:59:45 PM
Functions like that are generally accompanied by learning to graph them, and then in calculus you learn to take their derivative. It's the same reasoning as story problems dealing with money—finding a real-world application for the underlying math so the students maybe won't think it's a waste of time.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 07, 2009, 01:36:06 AM
Physics…that's offered in 11th grade at my school. Would it be the same course as the one you are talking about, probably?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 07, 2009, 02:01:39 AM
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Physics…that's offered in 11th grade at my school. Would it be the same course as the one you are talking about, probably?

Yeah...though, at the high school level, I don't know if they'd teach you how to derive things from first principles. Pray they don't, actually. :)

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Functions like that are generally accompanied by learning to graph them, and then in calculus you learn to take their derivative. It's the same reasoning as story problems dealing with money—finding a real-world application for the underlying math so the students maybe won't think it's a waste of time.

Yeah, there's that I suppose. By now, though, I've had the usefulness of math sufficiently beaten into me that I don't need those application problems to motivate me to learn the tools.

Also, I've had enough of physics and engineering (at one point I thought I wanted to be a chemical engineer) to know that the "applications" they teach you in math classes are all but worthless for actually applying math to real problems in real fields. So, these problems have the opposite effect on me than was desired: I feel like they're a major waste of time. :)

It's even worse at BYU. The Physics and Engineering departments don't force you to memorize formulas for tests, but the Math department does, so doing application problems unnecessarily bloats the memorization load.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 07, 2009, 02:13:06 AM
Apparently math is 'training your brain to think in certain ways.'  :-\
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 07, 2009, 04:05:12 AM
I had to memorize formulas for 400-level astrophysics classes at BYU.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 07, 2009, 04:47:09 AM
I haven't take Math in some 10 years... I never took it at college...

Grumpiness:  That awesome French manual I found is actually just a translation from German.  Le sigh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: readerMom on May 07, 2009, 06:54:39 PM
The Math & Physics departments at BYU are (were? it's been 12 years) so connected I could get a math minor while majoring in physics without taking any other classes. I hated all the math classes there until 443, differential equations, but then I like the idea of mathematics.
Memorization is a good skill to have, though physicists tend to have a non-memorization ego thing, to judge by the comments of several physicists in books I have read.
Of course I then ended up with minors in both math and physics and an English major, but that had more to do with needing to finish school quickly than the school itself.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 08, 2009, 12:46:01 AM
Smashed my knee in rehearsal today. Intense pain. No marks, which is weird (but good).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 08, 2009, 01:27:40 AM
Rehersal for what?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 08, 2009, 01:53:14 AM
The school play (OLIVER!).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 08, 2009, 02:10:53 AM
I'm thinking Shags must be playing Dodger, but then that might be type casting. ;P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 08, 2009, 02:12:42 AM
Lol. I, for one, think Dodger is a pretty awesome character…;-). But, no. I'm Oliver.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 08, 2009, 07:59:58 PM
Being an Apple developer I can download the newest stuff for my iPhone.

Being this I have the 3.0 operating system installed on my phone.  Basically just because it allows mms messaging and the landscape keyboard and copy-pasting and text forwarding.  All of which you couldn't do on the v2 operating system.  These are all nice things and I like them.  So apparently last night they released the newest beta of the 3.0 software.  So this morning I work up to a pink screen.  So now I can't use my phone until I update the software.  This is being annoying and I MIGHT have to find one of my friends with a Mac and stuff which would be super annoying, because I only have a few friends with Macs and I have no idea when they would be free.

Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 08, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Four things:

1) This is what happens when you use beta software to do important things. As a CS major, you should know better. ;)
2) How did you perform the OS update in the first place, if you don't have a Mac? I don't own an iPhone (but I do own a Mac), but can't you install OS updates via iTunes in Windows?
3) Are you doing iPhone development under Windows? I hear that's possible, but hard.
4) You can find VMWare virtual machines with Leopard installed if you look hard enough. Not to encourage bootlegging or anything...I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 09, 2009, 01:20:57 AM
Itunes has a special networking gimcrack to provide appleshare on windows.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 09, 2009, 06:31:18 AM
1) I had to use a friends Mac to put the OS on there.

2) This time I was able to update, but the first time, in order to install the 3.0 software (which has a completely new bootstrip and such) so you are required to have the new Xcode environment as well as the SDK to install it properly and activate.)  Lucky I was able to extract the DMG and get the IPSW and update to the newest beta.

3) No I'm not currently developing apps, though I might start once I buy a mac.

4) That's only illegal in the end user agreement.  A company could install mac onto a PC and then sell it to consumers. >>'  Just saying.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 09, 2009, 06:40:02 AM
A company does, and they have an antitrust suit in the works that claims Apple is violating the Copyright law by attempting to use it to control resale terms.  That company is buying a license and media at retail and then reselling rather than retail apple's products and Copyright laws have always held that the original licensor can't control that.  It's a like TOR trying to control the sale of TOR books at used books stores.  The law just doesn't support it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 09, 2009, 06:56:52 AM
Renoard is talking about Psystar. The suit in question was started by Apple. I haven't heard anything about it in a long time; I'm very curious to see where it goes.

Also, the bootlegging I was talking about is downloading a copy of Leopard when you don't own one. Regardless of whether or not the VM aspect is illegal, the downloading of a bootlegged copy certainly is.

I've played with a VM of OS X client. Frankly, it's not a very good experience; it runs slow as molasses. I've also used VMs of OS X Server, which Apple has allowed official VMware support for, and the experience is much, much better (akin, in fact, to running any other OS in a VM).

BUT, it probably would allow you to fix your iPhone. :)

I'm grumpy right now due to the evil homework monster. I've been ignoring him to work on learning Cocoa (which BYU misguidedly does not teach), and he's very upset with me right now.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 09, 2009, 07:02:43 AM
Objective C kind of stinks as a working environment.  Ryos, Miyabi, have you looked at gnu's cocoa compatible?  It's runs on linux and on top of cocoa with a compatibility layer similar to gtk.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 09, 2009, 07:12:54 AM
Renoard, I've yet to find ANYTHING I couldn't make run on Linux. ;)  I've never ran cocoa before I think.  I don't know, I've ran way too much on Linux to remember everything I've used for this or that.

I did get my phone fixed this morning though.  The reason I'm using the beta OS is because of all of the new things it has that were just annoying to not have. ha ha.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 09, 2009, 08:02:35 AM
Are you talking about GNUStep? I don't really know much about it, and honestly, "runs on Linux" isn't much of a plus in my book. Linux is fantastic for server software, but for workstations I'd almost rather use Windows (which, coming from this Mac user, is saying something).

As for Objective-C stinking...frankly, I don't know what you're talking about. Though I haven't gotten terribly far (stupid school), what I've seen has been just fine. Far more sane than C++, which feels like it was dropped on its head as a child. Also, so far I've been pretty impressed with the Cocoa frameworks. You get a lot of rich functionality for very little code. The book I'm using (http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Mac-OS-3rd/dp/0321503619/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241852281&sr=8-1) has me routinely churning out little tutorial programs with surprising regularity. Writing the same apps in Java Swing (the only other GUI kit I've worked with) would have been far more involved and painful.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 09, 2009, 09:31:54 AM
Well,
I meant that I (and a majority of programmers) seem to find the syntax of the OOP extensions alien and counter-intuitive.  C++ for all it's flaws leads more naturally into pure 4GLs like Modula/Delphi and C#.  I love C89 and it's derivatives, but that's not one that works for me.

And yeah I meant GNUstep. :)

Only reason I mentioned Linux was that maybe coding for GNUstep would be a means for Miyabi to continue coding.  If pnet or mono get to the level of commercial viability I'll be willing to code for Mac too. ;P  I'm pulling for pnet I like their security model better.  Frankly, as a developer I have no intention of turning my code over to a central repository for analysis or management.  :'(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 09, 2009, 03:22:30 PM
Exhausted. Was up and about for 18 hours yesterday.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 09, 2009, 03:59:48 PM
Oh, syntax? Is that all? Pssh. ;D

In my book, syntax doesn't form the basis of a compelling discussion of the merits of programming languages, since, as long as it doesn't get in the way by being hard to read, it's largely irrelevant. Language semantics is a far better metric.

Objective-C's syntax does take some getting used to, but I find that after an acclimation period it doesn't get in the way and there are even some nice things about it. For example, its insistence on named method parameters make function calls much more self-documenting. It also has a mechanism for automatic generation of getters and setters, like Ruby.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 10, 2009, 08:45:17 AM
To put it succinctly: Ewww, Ruby! Feh! :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 10, 2009, 08:55:45 AM
Syntax is critical because operational and axiomatic semantics rise directly from the syntax and calling methods of the given language..  It's actually possible to do OOP in macro assembler on an IBM 360.  I've done it.  But it is far from intuitive.  Because predicate transformer semantics arise from the way axiomatic and operational semantics interact synthetically. ;)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 12, 2009, 09:23:28 AM
You ever have one of those days?  I try to send chapter three to the RE group,  But first I send an email with no attachment.  Next I send an intermediate cut that has something like 20 chapters, but conveniently starts with chapter 3.  I feel nauseous.  Jade this it the point for a some of that Norman acerbic wit.

Grumble.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on May 12, 2009, 05:44:38 PM
Current source of grumpiness: people getting upset that they are talked about behind their back... i mean sometimes you have to rant and to avoid confrontation you do so when the object of frustration is not around... not to mention what you don't know gennerally doesn't hurt ya and some idiots think they are doing their friend a favor by ratting someone out which just causes a fight and does no good......this thought is brought to you buy...Channel 8 sitcoms have a nice day
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 12, 2009, 06:19:52 PM
Renoard, there was no reason for a triple post.  You could have edited them together to put them all in one post.

I woke up in a hurry thinking it was 1:30 because apparently the power went out.  Turns out it's only about 11:30
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 12, 2009, 09:19:20 PM
Syntax is critical because operational and axiomatic semantics rise directly from the syntax and calling methods of the given language..  It's actually possible to do OOP in macro assembler on an IBM 360.  I've done it.  But it is far from intuitive.  Because predicate transformer semantics arise from the way axiomatic and operational semantics interact synthetically. ;)

Here I disagree again. The language designer defines the syntax and the semantics that goes along with it. For example, in some languages, a[25] is an array access, while in others, it's a method call. It could just as well have been a multiplication, or an assignment, or return the 26th character in a string; and if you had been trained in a language that treats that syntax as an assignment, you'd think 'a = 25' is pretty strange.

As for OOP in assembly - of course it's possible. All programs wind up as assembly! However, it's not intuitive because in assembly you have to do everything. Shoot, not even looping is intuitive in assembler. This has nothing to do with its syntax, but the fact that the language is defined to correspond to CPU instructions, and you have to figure out how to create high-level constructs out of these basic building blocks.

That's not to say that syntax doesn't matter at all - it can get in the programmer's way. As an example, variable assignment in AppleScript looks like this: "set a to 25". This is verbose and annoying. Also, the following NSArray access is pretty verbose:
[a objectAtIndex:25]
I would be rather annoyed at this, IF Xcode didn't autocomplete objectAtIndex after a few characters. Codesense makes everything better. :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: FantasyAngel on May 12, 2009, 09:26:59 PM
So annoyed my PC crashed big time and I had to do a full destructive restore and now have to spend ages restoring all my files arghhh!   >:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 12, 2009, 09:51:51 PM
So annoyed my PC crashed big time and I had to do a full destructive restore and now have to spend ages restoring all my files arghhh!   >:(

Count your blessings - you have backups!

I'm annoyed that a project at work keeps making me do more work then I thought I needed to do, for everything. (BTW, this sums up every programming project ever.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: FantasyAngel on May 12, 2009, 10:03:16 PM
Unfortunately I only have partial back-ups of music and photos the stupid thing refused to let me back-up anything else so it's all manual.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 13, 2009, 05:58:18 AM
See I never had an issue with Syntax.  They always made sense to me.  It's like learning a new language, different people see things differently, so you have to adapt. *shrugs*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 13, 2009, 10:32:24 AM

Here I disagree again. The language designer defines the syntax and the semantics that goes along with it. For example, in some languages, a[25] is an array access, while in others, it's a method call. It could just as well have been a multiplication, or an assignment, or return the 26th character in a string; and if you had been trained in a language that treats that syntax as an assignment, you'd think 'a = 25' is pretty strange.


But this goes in favor of my point.  You're assuming that language syntax and semantics are statically designed at standards conferences and thereafter, instructors are authoritative preachers of the gospel according to ANSI, etc.

The truth is most languages are designed by an engineer who is frustrated with the restrictions to semantics and design that a given grammar imposes.  He then designs something that works for him, probably kludges together an interpreter and uses it till someone else likes it and tweaks it to their needs etc.

Standards are imposed after the fact and then, compiler groups like gnu, Apple, and Microsoft proceed to inor the standard and provide nonstandard atoms, and extensions to the syntax that suit the complaints from their customer base.  ECMA standardizing Java extensions, in turn giving rise to .Net/pnet/mono, is a good example.

It's a two-way discussion and always in flux.  So it's circular, semantics afflict syntax and syntax creates semantics.  It's not that semantics are irrelevant, it's just that they are inextricably linked in symbiosis with the given grammar.  This is true in human language.  Changing the dictionary, can adversely affect critical reasoning in a population.  The Chinese cultural revolution and Merian Wester's are good examples.

How many people remember that envy is the sin and jealousy is a trait of God that he's proud of?  And that's just an intentional merging of commonly used object lables.  Imagine insisting that we start putting participles at the end of the complete clause in every English sentence.  It would sure make me laugh.  But it would subtly change the way people think and conceptualize problems.

You really want to avoid being "trained in a language" in favor of learning the principles in a non language specific manner.  That will make you much more flexible and able to cope with changes.  There are still sizable companies out there using CICS for data entry and management. ROFL :D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 13, 2009, 02:44:09 PM
I'm currently sitting at a computer at school trying not to fall asleep. It's not going too well  :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 13, 2009, 04:11:20 PM
Lullabye.... and good night....

:P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 13, 2009, 08:02:17 PM
I'm currently sitting at a computer at school trying not to fall asleep. It's not going too well  :(

Heh. That was basically my entire school year. I'm still doing it now, in fact. And it's only noon. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 13, 2009, 09:40:12 PM
Laptop? Luckyy. I'm gonna try to use some of my BM money to buy one for myself…but that's not until October!!! :'(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 13, 2009, 09:44:48 PM
Yay!  Shaggy will be a man! he he.  It took me a minute to figure out what BM was. ha ha.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 13, 2009, 09:46:50 PM
Haha yes, miyabi. Good thinking. ([my age] + [my religion] + [initials] = {definitely} = Bar-Mitzvah)  :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 13, 2009, 09:48:43 PM
Well I'm used to BM meaning Bowl Movement, because my family says that a lot, which I found obnoxious.  Why not just say poop instead of BM. ROFL.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 13, 2009, 09:49:37 PM
Hahaha…you mean 'Bowel Movement?'  ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 13, 2009, 09:59:57 PM
Yes, that's what I mean.  Too much typing in the last little bit.  I'm just typing really fast and not paying too much attention to how I'm typing things.  I'm pretty sure I've typed "bellow" instead of "below" about five times in the last hour.  -_-
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 13, 2009, 10:02:40 PM
Nice.

Do you look at your hands when you type?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 13, 2009, 10:03:59 PM
No, I watch T.V. while I write.  I decide what I'm going to write about, then I look up at the T.V. and watch what's going on there and type.  Or sometimes I talk to whoever else is in the room.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 13, 2009, 10:21:41 PM
Oh are you at work, then?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 13, 2009, 10:25:39 PM
No.  I'm at home. >>'  Although we're just chatting now, you can PM me if you want to keep chatting.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on May 14, 2009, 04:33:33 PM
Stupidity is my current source of grumpiness b.c ignorance is curable explaining something basic in several ways and the idiot still doesn't get it...well thats a problem with no solution
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 14, 2009, 04:34:41 PM
Who are we talking about Kaz?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on May 14, 2009, 04:39:41 PM
People in general....i hate them dont you :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 14, 2009, 04:41:26 PM
No. I look down on the less inteligent and smile. So amusing.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on May 14, 2009, 04:45:45 PM
That sounds like fun mind if I join you?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 14, 2009, 04:50:41 PM
Go right ahead  :D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 15, 2009, 03:54:11 AM
Ohmygod, I love doing that.…  :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 15, 2009, 06:46:22 AM
Actually I define stupidity as intentional ignorance.  Someone who doesn't know, is aware they don't know and also refuses to learn.  It's a character flaw rather than a mental deficit.

But how can you hate people?  People are the best source of entertainment.  Without people there would be no books, or video, or games. ;)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Sigyn on May 15, 2009, 05:11:56 PM
So I sent my little boy to use the bathroom and then went to find him pants to wear today. When I got back to him, he still had his pajama pants on, but his pull-up was gone. I asked him if he knew where it was.  He gave me a surprised look, looked down to make sure it really was missing and said, "Huh, I don't know." This means I have a used pull-up lost somewhere in my house. The possibilities are horrifying.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 15, 2009, 05:45:16 PM
Sigyn that would give Steven King chills. :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 15, 2009, 08:40:49 PM
I was all set to submit a short story of mine to a local contest, and I've just realized that the short story I was going to submit is under the word limit.

Likewise all my other stuff, it's either too long or too short. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 15, 2009, 09:21:49 PM
Submit a chapter from the book?
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Post by: Silk on May 15, 2009, 11:08:11 PM
Heh. I'd think about it, but it's a literary contest--I doubt they'd even consider fantasy, really. And I might have a hard time finding a chapter that could stand on its own.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 16, 2009, 05:03:40 AM
Ugh, I had to take out a loan for college fees.  Now I'm $1,500 in debt. -_- bah!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 16, 2009, 07:26:30 AM
*twitch*

I hate the music they play at work. It's not enough that they play one crappy song, they play all crappy songs. Or even better, they'll just take one crappy song and find FIVE DIFFERENT COVERS for it.

This is me, banging my head against our nicely bleached countertops (so my face can smell like bleach, just like my hands do, even after washing them three times).

Note to self: Get into music industry, change world

auuuugh
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 16, 2009, 09:04:54 AM
Ugh, I had to take out a loan for college fees.  Now I'm $1,500 in debt. -_- bah!

If that's all the debt you end up with, you'll be in excellent shape.  Especially if it's a stafford loan.

I escaped with only $5,500, and I was doing better than a lot of others.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 16, 2009, 08:35:31 PM
That's true.  I'll have some more, not sure how much though.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 17, 2009, 04:40:08 AM
Silk, I was just going to recommend you go buy some noise-canceling headphones, like the excellent Audio Technica ATH-ANC7...but when I go to find a link for you, I discover they've been discontinued, and those places that are selling them are asking twice the price I paid for mine! That makes me grumpy.

The thing is, there's really nothing on the market that compares to the ATH-ANC7. You either get a halfway mediocre solution, or you pay an outrageous amount (Bose, I'm looking at you). Those headphones hit just the right price/performance spot. I hope mine last forever.

They sell noise canceling earbuds now. Harrumph. I just can't do earbuds; they fall out of my ears of their own volition, even when I'm sitting perfectly still. I'm not exaggerating.

In light of their discontinuation, I feel kind of prescient for having bought them when I did.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 17, 2009, 11:08:36 AM
I don't see you offering the to Silk as a gift. . .
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 17, 2009, 11:33:16 PM
No. In fact, you do not. Very astute observation.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: FantasyAngel on May 20, 2009, 09:07:49 PM
I'm getting fed up waiting for my copy of Alcatraz to arrive from America.  This sucks, I'm resigned to doing rereads again.  I NEED a new book. >:(

I suppose I should be grateful that I have so many great books that rereads aren't that bad but still I so wish it would hurry up.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 20, 2009, 09:12:50 PM
Smashed my back on our deck yesterday. Woke up this morning and…it hurts. Badly.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 20, 2009, 10:50:16 PM
Is the play still running, i.e. are you going to have to sing and dance like that.?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 21, 2009, 03:18:39 AM
Nope it's over.


Current source of grumpiness: I saw the cover art for The Gathering Storm. Nuf said.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 21, 2009, 04:25:14 AM
My computer is having serious problems. It won't start up all the way, and the drive won't mount in order for disk utility to try to repair it. Also the wireless stopped working right before the disk crapped out.

(Posting on backup computer.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 21, 2009, 04:37:57 AM
Ooh, ouch. I hope you have backups. If you don't, then after this I hope you start. With Time Machine it's so easy. (I'm assuming you have a Mac due to the mention of Disk Utility.)

I've been through a hard drive crash without backups. Fortunately, I caught the early signs (grinding noise coming from the the bearing, everything on the computer requiring disk access running unbearably slowly) and was able to back everything up before it went kaput. Nevertheless, the experience awakened me to the mortality of hard disks, and I now faithfully keep daily backups.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 21, 2009, 05:28:51 AM
Pretty sure I left my trombone at Seaton when we were rehearsing last week. Pretty sure, but ever since I went looking for the 'bone to find it not where I thought it was I've been having flashbacks to when my guitar was stolen. And the band room at Seaton is locked, so I won't be able to check it's there until tomorrow morning.

As it is, I had to borrow one of VSS's trombones for the rehearsal tonight, the instrument I was using isn't as good as mine and I had an ill fitting mouthpiece that tasted funny.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 21, 2009, 03:26:32 PM
My backups are, unfortunately, about a year old. But I think DiskWarrior has saved my bacon. Again. I've only had to use it three times in my life, but that is one program absolutely worth paying for.

I do want to start using Time Machine, maybe when I replace my router.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 21, 2009, 06:35:05 PM
Silk, let me just say, "EW!" and comf.

Hope the horn is in the room you think.

Ookla, is the cmos fried?  What kind of PC is it?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 21, 2009, 07:36:42 PM
Next time I have to play a borrowed instrument, I'm investing in mouthwash.

I found the trombone, it was exactly where I left it. (Though it amazes me that I left an instrument behind at all.)

Alternate source of grumpiness: Plastic babies.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 21, 2009, 09:51:52 PM
GRRRR

I just got two emails from the SAME guy in India telling me that they really want me to outsource my software development with them!  Okay that's a problem, been dodging this guy for 5 years.  But this time "he's going to be in my area" and the two emails are 2 minutes apart and the second one had a confirmation response tag in the header.

Does he not get the hint?

GRRRRRRRrRRRRRrRRR
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 22, 2009, 12:31:58 AM
I'd suggest that you try to be less polite, but you probably shouldn't listen to me if I do. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on May 22, 2009, 04:27:58 AM
Took my one and only midterm today. All in all I don't think I did terribly, but it was a timed test and I lost 7 points because I didn't have time for two questions.

I hate timed tests!  >:( It's not that I didn't study - I did. It's just that CS Theory is pretty much my weakest subject ever, and I need time to work through these problems. I can do it - it just takes time.

Grr. I signed up for this racket to write code, not muck about with abstract state machines and regular expressions (not the grep type, which ironically can't be expressed with regular expressions).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 22, 2009, 05:39:09 AM
Dude that's the fun stuff.  Next you'll be telling me you don't want to design a virtual machine and assembler.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 22, 2009, 05:59:35 AM
Work and school are kicking my butt, I'm up late every night and have to wake up at 6 so I can be to school on time. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 22, 2009, 07:07:02 AM
While mowing the lawn earlier today, I somehow managed to place enough pressure against the skin of my thumb earlier today that it dragged the skin entirely to one side, to the point where it tore the skin on the other side (on one side, you have a pile of skin, on the other side a tear).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 22, 2009, 03:14:26 PM
Ewwy . . .
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 22, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
I meant to say, unless that was the result of some pretty violent trauma you might want to get a checkup.  Skin shouldn't be that fragile.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 22, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
Well, my skin is usually moderately tough, so I'm not worried yet.  Besides, I was able to slide the skin back into place, and it seems to be healing back pretty well.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 22, 2009, 11:50:36 PM
Is it a long split or just a little one?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 24, 2009, 07:20:34 PM
Mother is attempting to convince me to audition for reality shows again. Unfortunately,  I don't have any real excuses this time, and if I just say "don't wanna" I will be hearing her whine about it for the rest of my natural life.

I could move out, but then she'd probably just phone spam me or something.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 24, 2009, 09:44:17 PM
You could just tell her that reality shows are beneath you and likely to harm any serious career plans you might have.  Nothing like to truth to win an argument. ;P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 25, 2009, 02:59:40 AM
The drive home last night sucked.  It was raining really hard and it was dark and I was ridiculously tired.  By the time I got home my stereo was up as loud as it went and the AC was on full blast just to keep me awake.  Ha ha.  Next time I'll make sure I don't work first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 25, 2009, 06:50:39 AM
You could just tell her that reality shows are beneath you and likely to harm any serious career plans you might have.  Nothing like to truth to win an argument. ;P

I've lost count of the times I've told her that. The "I don't want to" part doesn't seem to have sunk in either.

*mimics* It's worth ten thousand dollars, I don't see why you don't want to... it's not like you have to go that far (to audition, it is, unfortunately they decided to do the auditions in a city 40minutes down the highway instead of in Vancouver)...

Edit: So now it turns out if I were to get past the first round of auditions, I would have to come back and perform the following day, which would conflict with the concert band rehearsal, and the concert band has a performance the following week. So no, I can't go. So she's mad at me.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on May 26, 2009, 11:22:50 PM
That's pretty funny, Silk.

Shag:  It was just a little rip.  It's mostly healed now, though I might end up with a small scar.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 26, 2009, 11:28:07 PM
It is pretty funny. One day, when I don't have to listen it anymore, I too will look back and laugh. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 27, 2009, 04:55:03 PM
Oh and be sure to tell us when you'll be on T.V.  I want to watch. ;]

EDIT: I'm jealous of Jordon's concept art and I think he should post pictures of it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 28, 2009, 05:45:14 AM
Not on TV. I just barely managed to get out of the auditions (hey, I was legitimately busy! Probably. Sort of. Mostly.)

She wants me to do the online auditions now though. ::) To be honest, there's probably no real reason not to (except I'm opposed to gimmicks, especially ones with dumb names); the prize is cash, not a contract.

Now she's telling me if I do it  she'll buy me the harmonica and neck holder that I want to get for Saturday's show thingy. I probably should let her - that's money I really can't afford to spend - but now it's a gimmick AND a bribe!

Quick, guys - am I bribable?

(Also, if I do it, it PROBABLY won't go anywhere, and then she'll shut up about it. At least for another year.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 28, 2009, 06:20:20 AM
That sounds like the right bribe to take.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on May 28, 2009, 02:49:45 PM
I'd take it.  You get something you want, and really all you have to do is try out for a show that you MIGHT win money on. *shrugs*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 28, 2009, 03:08:07 PM
Don't listen to them, Silk! Don't go to the Dark Side! >:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 28, 2009, 08:16:01 PM
It's just so... so... so gimmicky! *explodes*

And yet, the Dark Side - the Dark Side - the problem with the Dark Side is it has logic on its side!

...Oh man. It truly IS the Dark Side.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 28, 2009, 10:31:34 PM
Math final is pressing heavily on my mind…and for the Latin final my teacher gave us a sheet of all our vocab…over 350 words!!!  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 29, 2009, 12:00:02 AM
This show isn't a musical variety talent show is it?  Cause then I'd negate my earlier comments and encourage to try it.

:)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 29, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
Ah, Hello Shaggy! How is that math final going? ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 29, 2009, 12:51:19 AM
*throws textbook at Inquisitor*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 29, 2009, 01:57:28 AM
It's an Idol-style talent show (with an excruciatingly dumb name). From what little I've seen of it, I do have to grant that they don't go for the stupid dramatization that the actual Idol shows do... but it's still a gimmick. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 29, 2009, 02:07:37 AM
You could just go and do it, only do a really bad job (on purpose) and get out of it that way.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 29, 2009, 02:11:12 AM
XD I could. Except even if I do it badly, they still might do something silly like, I don't know, put it on TV.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 29, 2009, 02:14:58 AM
Yeah, on second thought, don't do that  ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 29, 2009, 02:25:37 AM
Some day I'm gonna be famous,
Do I have talent - well, no
These days you don't really need it,
Thanks to reality shows...

I should play that song on Saturday. ::)

Also, grumpiness: Nasty blister on my heel. Thing's bigger than a nickel. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 29, 2009, 04:23:50 AM
Maybe you should do that song.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 29, 2009, 05:31:56 AM
I would, except they pick the audition songs. You have to choose between the four they pick or some such thing. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 29, 2009, 05:33:54 AM
Now that is ridiculous. What if none of the songs are appropriate for your voice and vocal style, or instrument/instrumental style?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 29, 2009, 06:25:47 AM
Then I won't get through to the next round, and won't that be a tragedy.

I think it's kinda goofy. They're just too cheap to clear the liscencing rights. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 30, 2009, 04:26:10 PM
Does this show have a name? (Curious)  :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 31, 2009, 07:02:46 AM
It calls itself "Karaoke Star".

(I believe I used the words "excruciatingly dumb" somewhere on the last page...)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 31, 2009, 07:10:58 AM
So I broke up with my girlfriend.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on May 31, 2009, 06:13:39 PM
Condolences, Inquisitor.

American Idol is just karaoke. At least Karaoke Star sounds honest about it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on May 31, 2009, 06:45:41 PM
Taking Ookla's advice from the burgers thread I'd like to say I'm grumpy about underaged twirps who spam every thread they see activity on. ;P  Not mentioning any names but I have it on good authority they might have starred in "Oliver". Ahem!

Hey I feel better now. :D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on May 31, 2009, 09:00:39 PM
Well, if the mods think I'm spamming, then they should ban me. But until they do, or issue me a formal warning instead of the childish, asinine swipes I usually get (I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, Ookla), I will continue to post like I do now, as I see no fault in my methods.

Current source of grumpiness: I lost two of the chapter vocabulary lists for my Spanish final, so now I have to piece together all the words from the textbook…grrr…
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 31, 2009, 09:25:01 PM
Sorry to hear that, Inquisitor.


American Idol is just karaoke. At least Karaoke Star sounds honest about it.

*smirks* An excellent point. I was going to complain that they could have at least expended a little more creativity on their title... But it's not like the various Idol shows have particularly creative titles either. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on May 31, 2009, 09:38:29 PM
Yeah, well things just weren't working out. I'm leaving for college soon anyway.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on June 01, 2009, 12:27:48 AM
My sympathies for your sense of loss Inquisitor, but I don't know enough to know if I'm sorry it happened.  All I can say is I hope that it works out for the best for all concerned.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 01, 2009, 04:18:42 PM
Here is something from Forest Gump....shirt HAPPENS... yeah well i'm sorry for whatever temporary pain of the break up has occured but its part of life so you get up and chase better looking chicks than the one you lost... and the cycle continues until you find a marry helen of troy :P but you already knew that... well good luck
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on June 01, 2009, 06:33:47 PM
Lol. Thanks Kaz.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 01, 2009, 07:52:27 PM
Texans stick together mate...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 01, 2009, 10:04:02 PM
I was already running late to class. Why was I running late? Well, I realized as I was leaving that I had to go give my landlord $408 today or I wouldn't have a place to live come August. That in and of itself is a minor source of grumpiness.

So, I was biking to school up University Parkway. The road that I usually take over to campus (don't know what it's called, but it runs east of the Marriott Center) has been slowly and mysteriously replaced by a large trench through the efforts of a construction crew. Honestly, of all the roads they could have picked to dig up, they just had to pick the one I depend on to get to school.

Anyway, it was a minor annoyance, since I could just ride up next to the Marriott (which is BYU's basketball stadium). However, today I discovered that the construction crews weren't satisfied with this state of affairs. See, they apparently weren't satisfied that people could so easily circumnavigate their project, and decided to dig up the road in the parking lot itself, thus blocking access to the easy way around. I mean, why settle for a minor inconvenience when you could create a major one?

(I'm exaggerating, of course. Riding around the Marriott only adds a couple minutes to my commute. Why am I exaggerating? Because I'm grumpy, dadgummit!)

So, there are all these little cement blocks in the lot for cars to park against, but they have a 6" gap between them. Being late and feeling cocky, I decided to ride between the gaps. Naturally, I had a pedal down too far, which caught hard on one of the blocks. The pedals are made of metal and are pretty tough, but the impact knocked my chain off the gear. Sigh. I had to walk the rest of the way to school, making me even later.

And that's, uh, all. So I guess I don't have a huge reason to be grumpy; it's just that the little things add up, y'know?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 02, 2009, 12:08:56 AM
Still, Ryos. Sucks. I'd be grumpy too.

Borrowed a video camera from someone to tape my performance on Saturday, and am having one heckuva time getting the files transferred to my computer. Still not sure I'm getting anywhere. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on June 02, 2009, 06:46:25 AM
It would be fun to see your performance. If you get it to a website or Youtube let us know!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 02, 2009, 07:17:48 AM
Seconded. ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 02, 2009, 07:18:45 AM
Will do my best, if I ever get the thing off the darn camcorder.  I'll let you know :)

Grumpiness: Haven't been given any shifts for the next two weeks again. These are the same people who b - ahem - whine and moan about how I'm never available.

*headdesk*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Sigyn on June 03, 2009, 05:07:48 PM
I feel like crap. And it's hard to take care of kids when I feel like crap. Blah.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 04, 2009, 09:14:20 PM
They want to end the world again...

Why do they always want to end the world...

*despair*

Edit: Also, my university's IT department appears to have killed our class forum from this past semester. We were still using it to chat and stuff, so this makes me sad. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on June 04, 2009, 09:58:53 PM
You should have directed them to TWG?

Baby sitting Elder day night all the time caring for  elderly and senile parents puts a dent in the available time to write.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 04, 2009, 10:28:34 PM
Threw up twice and sweated like a pig. Sigh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on June 04, 2009, 10:35:10 PM
Sounds like flu.  Is your head fuzzy today?  Don't forget to hydrate. :/

Did you eat pork?  Maybe it the H1N. . .
Sorry had to. :D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 04, 2009, 11:11:26 PM
I don't have any other flu symptoms. I had the flu the last two years, so I'm pretty sure I'd be able to tell. :)

I think it's either food poisoning (which for some reason affected only me) or a 24-hour stomach virus.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on June 05, 2009, 12:13:39 AM
You forgot the last 1.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 05, 2009, 12:17:47 AM
He elided it. Thus the ". . ."
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 05, 2009, 12:18:38 AM
You should have directed them to TWG?

Perhaps I should've. Though I doubt many of 'em would've gone for it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on June 05, 2009, 10:37:38 AM
Well, next time you can use this as a horror story, Silk, and encourage them to head to TWG thereby.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 07, 2009, 12:37:51 AM
I may just do that. Especially if my university IT department continues this disgusting tradition of, you know, actualy being on the ball when it comes to cleaning up class forums.

Current source of grumpiness: One of my brother's friends has this really irritating tendency to call several times in a day. Today he's already left two messages, called probably close to a dozen times - three times in the last five or ten minutes.

What's so hard about the concept of "we're not home, leave a message, we'll call back"? I don't get it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 08, 2009, 11:52:09 PM
UGH. UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH.

Safari 4 final version is out, and the top tabs are GONE. I feel like someone kicked me in the gut and ran over my dog. Top tabs were browser nirvana for me: Less interface, more content.

Now I'll have to go back to hiding the address bar entirely to get that screen real estate back.

Seriously ticked off.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on June 09, 2009, 03:35:02 AM
I spent today taking care of academic problems. I changed my minor, and by changing it (it was a pretty simply change, all things considered) I bumped my grad date back a semester, something I really can't afford to do.

Also, BYU-I's trying to get rid of the German program (something about German being a dead language and one of the officials not really liking it, so that merits the cutting of the whole program...::)). As it's the foreign language I'm taking for my required 11 foreign language credits to graduate, I'm really not thrilled about this decision. Especially as it also is going to bump my grad date back even further.

I talked to professor about this (I tried to talk to my advisor but she's not on campus) and she told me that I might be able to waive a course for my minor problem, and if I explain my whole problem to the lady in the College of Language and Letters, I might even be able to waive the other credits I'm deficient in for foreign language (I've taken semesters in each Japanese, ASL, Spanish, and German over the last 4 years). Hopefully, both of these will work. If so, that makes the next 2 semesters CRAZY busy, but at least I'll be graduating next July. Which was my original goal....

Still, though. German, a dead language? What are these people ON?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 09, 2009, 04:03:08 AM
German is a dead language? Since when?

There is a depressing lack of information on the Internets about cryovolcanoes.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on June 09, 2009, 04:49:06 AM
German is a dead language? Since when?

My thoughts exactly. It may be a "dead language" to southeastern Idahoans, but if what we're judging languages on is the location of the school, then why the heck isn't there a problem with the Russian program?

Inconsistent, I say. If they get rid of German, they should cut Russian.....And Mandarin Chinese while they're at it (although that's actually a useful language, just not around here...).

And why are you researching cryovolcanoes?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 09, 2009, 04:58:03 AM
You're in the minority there Ook. General consensus on the Intarwebs (with which I agree) is that Apple's implementation of tabs-on-top sucked. They should just copy Chrome and have done.

Speaking of which, I fully intend to give Chrome a run when it comes out (it's my favorite browser on Windows, though that's not saying much).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 09, 2009, 05:32:13 AM
Wilson: Because I needed a volcano for a short story setting, and having it be an ice volcano seemed too cool to pass up.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 09, 2009, 06:06:31 AM
ryos, there are a lot of people who like it (at least on macs—the comment thread on TUAW is almost all toptabbers) and wish it were at least an option.

I just don't like wasted space. When there are only two or so tabs open, each window now has TWO huge grey empty bars in it (title bar and tab bar). Huge waste of space.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 10, 2009, 02:22:31 AM
I hope you don't have your dock on the bottom then. ;)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 10, 2009, 05:14:13 AM
Dock is hidden. It only appears when I need it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on June 11, 2009, 08:57:52 AM
But the Mac dock is only fun if you have animated widgets in it that work while your off using something else and expand when you roll over.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 13, 2009, 05:38:51 AM
Current source of grumpiness: I'm an idiot. I apparently thought this was the These Stupid Titles thread.

Oops.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on June 13, 2009, 06:13:18 AM
Poor Historiography makes me gumpy.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 13, 2009, 06:19:00 PM
The dark-side aka pie-lover side makes me grumpy...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 13, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
Finals week, and the crunch to finish up all the projects and assignments our professors think we need. I spent eight hours in a lab yesterday, working on a project with a teammate. Ugh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 14, 2009, 06:57:29 AM
Ryos: Fun. That sounds like... my entire year this year.

People. People irritate the ... living daylights... out of me.

Can we all stop making mountains out of molehills now?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on June 14, 2009, 07:32:31 AM
Monday is taking WAY too long to get here....I am now completely addicted to Girl Genius and I am convinced the updates are too infrequent....even if they are every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday....I need more...*tear*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 15, 2009, 03:10:15 AM
People.

I hate people.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 15, 2009, 04:54:58 AM
you know what silk... I'm inclined to agree with you so long as I'm not a person :P



who wants to join the anti-humanitarian club!!!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 15, 2009, 05:29:54 AM
"So long as I'm not a person." Wow.

You kids and your clubs. (I say "kids" affectionately, if not necessarily accurately.)

Grumpiness: Fwee. I can't write.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on June 22, 2009, 05:09:16 PM
Trying to get caught up in school.  I was out of town all last week for work.  Now I'm behind a little bit.  I can't lose those straight A's! UGH!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 22, 2009, 05:11:54 PM
The class I needed to take this term is only offered at 8 AM. It's 10 now and I feel like I should be eating lunch. Mornings and I aren't friends.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Sigyn on June 22, 2009, 05:15:16 PM
Two of the ward kids have swine flu. I don't want to let me kids leave the house, but keeping them inside is not a viable alternative.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on June 22, 2009, 07:26:08 PM
Grumpy because: I have been sick since thursday, and it's really starting to make me mad. >:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 22, 2009, 11:32:04 PM
Grumpy because i had to go buy a black t-shirt as my uniform for a week until they get around to giving us the actual uniform....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on June 23, 2009, 12:12:50 AM
Black tee shirt for uniform sounds cool to me.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 23, 2009, 12:16:45 AM
On Friday we are issued the standard uniform though so i had to go buy a shirt for 5 days of use...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on June 23, 2009, 03:00:07 AM
My time schedule is all messed up. It's ten o'clock where I am, but my body feels like it should be four in the morning. grrr. . . .
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on June 23, 2009, 04:02:56 AM
That's what happens when you go to Europe shaggy. You should take a 3 hour nap in the middle of the day. That helps.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 23, 2009, 04:08:56 AM
Inquisitor are you imply that you have been to other countries than Mexico and latin speaking countries (canada is more or less a territory of ours the use dollars come on)





PS i know that their dollars have british people on it
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on June 23, 2009, 04:10:26 AM
England and France Kaz. I prefer England.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 23, 2009, 04:16:16 AM
Thats anti-texan you imply that there are things worth seeing outside Texas... other than resources we so rightously exploit :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on June 23, 2009, 04:18:48 AM
Sometimes we have to go out into the world and remind them we still exist and are in charge. Keeps them on their toes.  8)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on June 23, 2009, 05:30:26 AM
Canada has Three major language groups.  One is French and the other is Iroquoian.  Not very US like at all.  Besides Dollar is a bastardization of Tolar the name of a Spanish mine the silver came from.

And well Texas may be good at stealing (Enron comes to mind), but ruling?  Hardly.
:D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on June 23, 2009, 06:44:56 AM
I love how you say "has three" and then "one is... and the other is...".  Reminds me of the Spanish Inquisition.

Anyway, I've been sore for days.  Kind of sucks.  I'd better not be sore for Martial Arts tomrrow.  We've got new folks coming in.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on June 23, 2009, 02:51:39 PM
I found that this works well (I did it going to and coming back from Japan):

You simply make yourself stay awake until it is time for normal bed time.  If you get in at say 3 AM you just force yourself to stay awake until that night.  Yeah, you'll be tired for that one day, but you kill the jet lag.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 23, 2009, 10:09:04 PM
Canada has Three major language groups.  One is French and the other is Iroquoian.  Not very US like at all.  Besides Dollar is a bastardization of Tolar the name of a Spanish mine the silver came from.

And well Texas may be good at stealing (Enron comes to mind), but ruling?  Hardly.
:D

You mean there is a difference?

P.S. the new yorkers have more of the corperate bases, and they steal just as much as us!!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on June 24, 2009, 07:12:30 AM

You simply make yourself stay awake until it is time for normal bed time.  If you get in at say 3 AM you just force yourself to stay awake until that night.  Yeah, you'll be tired for that one day, but you kill the jet lag.

That's pretty much exactly what I did coming back from France...not so much when we landed in Ireland though, at the beginning of the trip. I didn't sleep at all on the plane ride, but oh boy did I sleep on the bus, and missing the few stops we made on our way to Galway too....But oh well. Jet lag was that day and only that day, so it's all good.

Anyway. On-topic....Grumpiness. I missed my only class yesterday because I was stuck in Twin Falls at home, without a ride to get me back to Rexburg until this morning. I don't like missing class...Now granted, I got to spend another 2 days with my family, which was cool, but still. I missed class. And that's not cool.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on June 24, 2009, 10:01:09 AM
The guy I normally practice HEMA with didn't show up again today.  He's pretty flakey, and it's getting old... we're just starting to get to the point where we can work through the manuals, bleh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 25, 2009, 07:45:54 AM
At work in the middle of the night because of the stupid annoying criminals who exploit security holes for their own nefarious purposes; in this case, distributing pornography and malware.

I've found this to be the dark side of using open source web software. Exploits get published, and then these lowlifes write scripts to seek out and exploit vulnerable installations. Software I write myself is far less likely to get exploited, for two reasons:
a. Nobody knows I exist, and
b. Nobody researches and publishes security holes in my programs.
Good, old fashioned security through obscurity. It works - most of the time.

Now, the projects fix the holes, but staying on top of the newest releases of everything I use is tough for me - I'm a part-time student employee and the only maintainer of a college department web site. I have enough other things to do that updates fall by the wayside - especially when I need to re-apply modifications to the new version.

That's what I'm doing now. An extensively modified app got exploited, and it's heavily used too, so I'm doing the upgrade in the middle of the night. Worse, we have three instances that have been customized in different ways. Sigh.

At least the users will get a better experience out of the deal.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on June 25, 2009, 04:07:14 PM
What's HEMA?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: readerMom on June 25, 2009, 04:49:18 PM
I have been sick for the past two weeks, might be pregnant, might not, the Dr said, well, just wait another week, we should be able to tell by then.
I know that until the last twenty years or so that is always how it went, but I want the official answer.  This limbo state is driving me nuts.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on June 25, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
That's exciting! Well, not the sick part, but the potential pregnant part.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 25, 2009, 05:45:44 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEMA
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on June 26, 2009, 09:36:39 PM
Grumpy: slow day, customers who don't listen thereby causing EXTRA work, a laid-off, sick (ill) husband, and a dirty house.  On the plus side, listening to the thunder outside is very soothing right about now...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 26, 2009, 11:28:23 PM
I got in trouble for someone refusing to talk/listen to me at work... i don't care if i like them or not i do my job and thats why im there he didn't like me because i corrected him 2 days ago (because he ignored the trainer so made a stupid mistake) and he would ignore me when on the grill you have to communicate and i get in trouble... how does that work?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on June 27, 2009, 05:09:49 AM
So today I go to the doctor to try and figure out why I've been so sick recently.  Turns out I've become allergic to my dogs and I have asthma. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Inquisitor on June 27, 2009, 05:13:45 AM
That sucks Miyabi
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on June 27, 2009, 05:20:24 AM
Yeah, now I have to take Zyrtec EVERY day as well as carry an inhaler around with me. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 27, 2009, 06:26:00 AM
My sympathies. Sucks to have to get rid of the dogs. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on June 27, 2009, 06:28:53 AM
We're going to try and not have to get rid of the dogs.  Hopefully the Zyrtec and the inhaler will help.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on June 27, 2009, 07:37:19 AM
Major suckage.  Ari discovered at one point that she was allergic to her cat...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on June 27, 2009, 07:53:25 AM
You're...not getting rid of the dogs? :o Umm. Wow. I don't think I'll ever understand. Some sacrifices are worth making, but to me, dog ownership is emphatically not worth unnecessarily dealing with allergies for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 27, 2009, 04:40:23 PM
If it's dog fur you're allergic to, buy dogs that have hair rather than fur and do not shed. We had a schnauzer and a maltese yorkie-poo who did a good job of not shedding. (Of course, dogs like that need to have regular haircuts because they don't shed.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on June 27, 2009, 07:55:54 PM
I rather think the haircut thing would be worth it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on June 28, 2009, 01:41:00 AM
We're going to cut their hair short and buy this special shampoo that is supposed to help.

And you can't just get rid of them.  It'd kill me AND my family to not have them.  I mean seriously, we've had the one for 11 years.  My one sister basically grew up with the dog ALWAYS there.  I only vaguely remember NOT having her.

It's just hard.  We're also keeping them outside more.  We're doing everything to keep them.  We won't get new dogs after these ones are gone, but we can't get rid of these ones, they are too much like family.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on June 28, 2009, 07:40:18 AM
Indigestion.  Ugh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on June 29, 2009, 03:14:14 AM
Weimariners are awesome dogs that are aoubt 3ft at the hip don't shed and are short haired... they are incredably kind i have been told the germans tried to use them as war dogs but their general demeanor was too loving... i grew up with them so i may be biased ;D... i too am allergic to dogs though i am allergic to darn near everything so i just deal with it...was on shots for a year
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on June 30, 2009, 09:53:15 PM
It is one thing to have free internet access in your hotel in Mexico. It is another thing entirely when you only have free internet on the weekends, and then you cannot access their wifi servers at all. Weird.

Consistency, people, consistency! I did not expect to have internet, and then you take it away...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on July 11, 2009, 05:03:51 AM
It occurred after I wrote this that the description sounded like fans, but of course I'm not famous so no that's not the dynamic in question. :|

Quote
I do so hate going to a quite little spot to work and being overrun by obnoxious strangers who think they actually have the foggiest idea who I am or what I'm about.  :'(

grumble!

I really do want to rant, but I'll stop there.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on July 20, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
The Big Band is scheduled to play at 10:00am on the first day of the Rarearth festival. -.-

10am? Seriously? nobody's going to be there.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on July 21, 2009, 12:05:15 AM
My roommates have taken every single writing utensil I've left in the living room (on top of my laptop) overnight....First it was a pen with my name on it that my sister got for me at Virginia Beach...Then a red pen. Now, this morning, my mechanical pencil. And the only one I've got back is the pencil....

I'm a little upset--especially about the Virginia Beach pen. I think they're taking them to classes and then losing them. I'd talk to them, but I don't want to get into a fight, and stress is high at the end of a semester...But, oh, they're making me mad.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on July 21, 2009, 05:18:41 AM
Get into a fight over something so small as asking where your pens are? You either have unreasonable roommates or I just don't understand girls.  :-[

As for my grumpiness...ever report a bug on something, only to be told it's a feature? Yeah. Happened to me twice in my life. Doesn't do much for the ole' ego. It's even worse when I don't understand what their comment means. (For the curious, I'm talking about this (https://trac.cakephp.org/ticket/6521).)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on July 21, 2009, 06:38:17 AM
Oh, I know it's trivial. That's why said I want to talk to them, but I don't want to fight. And the pens would be a catalyst into a fight, because the potential for one has been building this whole semester with these two particular roommates who I think are involved...Combine that with finals stress, and that's a major blowout. Over something so small as pens. Not worth it. Even if they might have lost a gift that they never asked to borrow in the first place...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on July 22, 2009, 12:21:14 AM
Gifts from the people you cherish, no matter how small, are never trivial
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on July 22, 2009, 04:36:46 AM
The Kelowna fires.

Can see, smell, and taste smoke everywhere right now. It's like 2003 all over again.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on July 22, 2009, 11:06:27 PM
got laid off the second time in a little over a quarter...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 23, 2009, 04:22:40 AM
Sucks. Good luck.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on July 23, 2009, 04:37:57 AM
thanks...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on July 23, 2009, 04:42:18 AM
Getting laid off is no fun. :( Best.

(Grumpiness:  So smoky I can't tell what's clouds and what's smoke. And ash falling everywhere.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on July 23, 2009, 04:49:18 AM
Silk, would it be appropriate to say that "ash fell from the sky"?

The temperature hasn't dropped below 90 F during the day for three weeks, despite the fact that there is cloud cover. Just humid nineties and triple digits. We only come out at night.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: kevinpii on July 23, 2009, 05:08:24 PM
Its 63 degres here right now, and its not getting any warmer. I went camping with my family this weekend and we had to use a heater in the tent. When we finally got home it was so cold in the house the furnace came on. It feels like we havent had a summer at all this year.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on July 24, 2009, 08:50:22 PM
Where do you live, KEvin?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on July 24, 2009, 08:54:03 PM
Sortitus: Yeah, I've already said that to a few people. =P

"Ash falling from the sky and a red, red sun. Apparently all you have to do to get a Brandon Sanderson book is set a few things on fire."
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on July 29, 2009, 02:11:10 AM
The bad: my wisdom teeth are out. The good: I'm on vicoden. This should make writing interesting!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on July 29, 2009, 05:14:23 AM
I need my wisdom teeth removed 2 of them are more or less in one is a third of the way in and the other one is still under the surface and i may have room for 2 up top but not for all of them

I've filled out like 100 aps and i have a real good shot with lazy-boy (100% commision and i don't like that) and stand pretty well with uhaul other than that ive wasted my time...i hate this economy
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on July 29, 2009, 05:51:41 AM
I went swimming yesterday. In a lake. Swallowed lots of disgusting water....Didn't put enough sunscreen on. Have sunburn now. Painful to sleep last night. Will be painful to sleep tonight, I know already....Ugh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on July 29, 2009, 03:27:21 PM
Little Wilson: Ouch.  Aloe.  Lots and lots of aloe.

Chaos: Well, at least you never have to worry about them again, right?

Grumpy: because it's apparently impossible to get people to step back and look at something reasonably if they've already made up their mind on the subject.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on July 29, 2009, 06:51:44 PM
Writing a virtual memory manager. Which is cool. But HARD. Also, it's due today. *whine*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on July 29, 2009, 10:35:48 PM
My sun burns just recently went away...got them doing Habitat for Humanities if any of you are familar with it
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on July 29, 2009, 11:01:11 PM
Always heard of it, never participated.  Bad timing, each and every time. :P  Kinda like white-water rafting.  Every time I make plans to go, something comes up...

Glad the sunburns healed!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on July 31, 2009, 09:41:43 AM
Little Wilson: Ouch.  Aloe.  Lots and lots of aloe.

I thought about saying that, but I figured that if she had Aloe, she'd already be using it, and if she didn't, saying "Aloe" wouldn't help.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on July 31, 2009, 10:16:00 PM
The logic in that is irrefutable....It humored me...And yes. Aloe definitely would've helped, but...yeah.

The burn's gone for the most part. Still a little irritating but not too bad. It's actually far from the worst I've ever had. I once went to Seven Peaks down in Utah for about 5 or so hours and forgot to put on ANY sunscreen....my back was a solid red, with these little white blisters on it. It was terrible (and I'm laughing right now remembering it...). So yeah....With how much I tend to get burned whenever I'm out in the sun, it's probably a good thing I don't go swimming that much anymore.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 01, 2009, 04:08:01 AM
5 hours gave you a second degree sunburn....wow... The only way i can get a second degree burn is by neglecting a sunburn and going swimming for the majority of a day or some similar stupidity...it's happened twice. But i tan relatively easily possibly because i'm an 1 16th cherokee and 1 32nd crow so not quite an eighth...but my moms geneology isn't very well known so it could be a bunch of things her family is a bunch of southern farmers 3 generations back going on for like 200 years so i'm not exactly sure but i don't burn except when i first start doing summer stuff and when it fades the start of my tan is left
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 01, 2009, 05:34:05 AM
I think the burn was actually somewhere in between a first degree and second degree burn. It was bad, but the blisters were REALLY small. Yeah, there were a lot, but they were miniscule. And those 5 hours included noon. And it was hot. A good 100 degrees I would bet, and I was in the water most of the time....Not a very good combination, to say the least.

And I tend to burn really easily. I just have skin that burns fast. On a hot day, if I'm not wearing a hat my cheeks will start to burn within 10 minutes....And tanning. I don't tan. Well. That's not technically true. I do tan, but it requires a burn first...It sucks. I hate having skin this white...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on August 02, 2009, 06:54:22 AM
I'm sad to have just bought Strunk and White for (of all things) a CS class. Despite the voluminous praise heaped upon it, it looks desperately boring.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on August 02, 2009, 01:25:23 PM
I'm sad to have just bought Strunk and White for (of all things) a CS class. Despite the voluminous praise heaped upon it, it looks desperately boring.

Not only is it desperately boring, it's also full of bad advice.

Elements of Style prescribes nonstandard English, which comes across as erroneous to some, and simply unnecessary to others.  Not a single one of my English professors ever held me to Strunk and White's ridiculous expectations in writing, though I did once have a History professor that expected us to follow it (not that he had us get the book—I could simply tell from the corrections he was making to my English that he used it as a guide).

There are many much better grammar/writing books out there.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on August 03, 2009, 01:13:53 AM
OK so I've been waiting for like three months to find out when this ice cream social thing is 'cause it's like the only time I can find to get together with this old friend who I haven't seen in over a year and they FINALLY give the time and it's during my school day. UGHHH
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 04, 2009, 06:01:14 AM
Wilson: I now share your pain, quite literally - I got my back sunburned so badly this weekend that just wearing clothing is painful. Three cheers for fair skin. -.-;

Ryos: Why on earth would you need a grammar book for CS class? :/
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 04, 2009, 06:50:19 AM
Oh, Silk. I am sorry. Really I am....My burn is mostly gone now, but...I'm peeling. I hate peeling. Especially when it's on the back, and you can't reach it....I itch.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on August 04, 2009, 06:50:46 PM
Ryos: Why on earth would you need a grammar book for CS class? :/

Because it's basically a writing class. Here's the course description:

Quote
CS 404 Ethics and Computers In Society
Societal impact of computer technology, the computer scientist's place in society, ethical issues. Reading, discussion, and writing seminar.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 04, 2009, 07:45:56 PM
I want to tell you that it sounds interesting, but to be entirely honest... it doesn't, really...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on August 04, 2009, 08:55:47 PM
I want to tell you that it sounds interesting, but to be entirely honest... it doesn't, really...

Yeah, and they're making me take it. Now you know why I'm grumpy! ;) The consolation prize is that, by all reports, it's an easy A.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on August 05, 2009, 09:51:07 AM
I spent roughly 12 hours cleaning and doing related things (like removing screws) today.

Blech.  I feel like I lost a day.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 05, 2009, 07:26:18 PM

Yeah, and they're making me take it. Now you know why I'm grumpy! ;) The consolation prize is that, by all reports, it's an easy A.

Ah, one of THOSE courses. For some reason, those seem to be absolutely abundant in CS programs,  at least according to... just about every CS major I've ever talked to...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 05, 2009, 07:51:32 PM
CS as in Computer Science? UT at Dallas has a very good Computer Science program but i'm attending it for business and their MBA is for the second straight year #1 in the nation according to the Financial Times. Alas, i'm a business administration major but.......GO COMETS!!!!


P.S. i know it is a lame mascot
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 05, 2009, 11:17:27 PM
Yes, computer science. Also, one or two boring classes doesn't necessarily preclude it from being a good program overall.

Grumpiness: Jim Baen's Universe is closing (http://baens-universe.com/articles/Universe_Closing)! =(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on August 05, 2009, 11:43:58 PM
 :o :'(
And then lots of angry faces.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 06, 2009, 04:16:40 AM
Grumpiness: my mascot is worse than the bullweevil because we are inanimate.... :'(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on August 06, 2009, 09:36:16 AM
Spent the entire day from waking till now moving furniture and boxes.  I have a few bruises and a very achey arm to show for it.

Why does getting married have to be such hard work?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on August 06, 2009, 01:14:22 PM
Well, usually you have to work hard for anything good.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on August 07, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
Mattress arrives one day after the wedding.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 07, 2009, 06:02:35 PM
Woke up to the sound of birds singing and music playing my dog horking.

Cleaning up dog puke is EXACTLY how I wanted to start my morning, thank you.

; ;
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 07, 2009, 09:18:03 PM
Yard work bleh!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on August 07, 2009, 10:32:42 PM
My sister and I drove to Logan, UT on Wednesday night, painted her apartment yesterday, and drove home so she could get to work on time. We got in at 6 AM. Thank god for super-dark curtains. Without them I wouldn't have gotten any sleep. Also, I realized too late that some of you people live in Logan, and that I probably could have lured you out of your caves with food.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 07, 2009, 11:34:16 PM
Bigger better bacon?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 08, 2009, 05:29:57 AM
Got rear-ended in a parking lot earlier today. Think I might've ended up with whiplash. -.-
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 08, 2009, 05:40:04 AM
Three cheers for a lawsuit!!!! DO NOT USE A LWAYER THAT IS ON BILLBOARDS COMMERCIALS ECT THEY SUK!!!!! and are whores to boot...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 08, 2009, 06:05:17 AM
Ahaha.

I love how every single American I've mentioned this incident to has said, instantly and without fail, "SUE THEM". It's very entertaining.

Related note: I don't think I should be allowed to sing in public anymore. It's clearly detrimental to my health. If I go over the last few times I've had to sing in public...

Illness, illness, illness, illness, WHIPLASH.

Fate is laughing at me. I swear.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 08, 2009, 08:16:55 AM
This is only partial grumpiness...You know my camera that broke on me while I was in Europe? Yeah. I decided to try and fix it in the last hour. Took out all the screws, separated the two sides of the cover, took out more screws, and eventually got down to the lens (the part that was broken. The ACTUAL lens wasn't broken, just the metal part that has the zoom features and all that good stuff).

Well. I popped the lens back up into place (it was crooked), and was super-happy, because I thought it was fixed. So I put everything back together, and get some batteries into it, and then turn it on. "Lens error." ARGH!...I now have to twist the stupid lens back up, so the last of the three levels will be back to the normal height (the broken level was the second level, but somehow the camera got busted when it was zoomed in, so every time I turn the camera on (when it works anyway) it zooms BACK in, and then won't turn back on when it gets shut off until it's back to the normal size...It's stupid). Only it won't twist anymore and it's not even close to being the right height.

So yes. I almost fixed my broken camera, but alas, the final step eludes me. I'm so sad. I guess I won't have a camera when I see the Grand Canyon for the first time next week.... :'(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 08, 2009, 04:11:50 PM
Sad!

I slept in a full hour today. I'm such a moron.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 08, 2009, 05:45:20 PM
Did you know there are 2 grand canyons? the second one is in yellowstone...

Grumpiness: more yardwork!!! im ripping out 9 by 2.5 yards of grass so we can have a veggiew garden and all i have is a hoe!!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shaggy on August 10, 2009, 08:27:35 PM
That stinks, wil. Use your phone!

There may be two "grand canyons," Kaz, but there is only one Grand Canyon.  :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 11, 2009, 02:40:27 AM
That stinks, wil. Use your phone!

Hmm. I didn't think of that. Of course, my phone's camera is absolutely terrible, but oh well. Any picture of the Grand Canyon is better than none, eh? And speaking of that, I'm going tomorrow.

Also, we went to this place called Devil's Bridge yesterday. It's a bit of a hike there. Not much, only about a mile there and a mile back, with a 400 foot elevation gain. Well. We parked in the wrong spot, and started at the wrong trailhead. We ended up getting to the bridge (which is freaking awesome, by the way. Here's a picture (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Devil%27s_bridge_Sedona_Arizona.jpg) of it), and it's not that the way we went lengthened the hike, because it was still only about 2 miles round trip, but...We climbed a LOT more than we should've. It was a lot more exerting than it was supposed to be. And I drank all my water...I was so thirsty. But oh well. It was worth it. Even if I got a slight case of vertigo when I was standing right in the middle of the bridge...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 11, 2009, 02:46:27 AM
That's quite the picture. Awesome.

Grumpiness: Well, I WAS feeling better. Am now sore again. =(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on August 13, 2009, 09:32:10 PM
Not enough time to spend with the wife, who has been at Med School Orientation all week.

And we've either been at parties, going out, or having family over EVERY SINGLE NIGHT since we got married.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 13, 2009, 10:35:25 PM
thats the problem with big weddings...hopefully i can talk my future spouse into eloping
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 13, 2009, 11:14:00 PM
Did you do an actual honeymoon?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 15, 2009, 03:01:54 AM
Filezilla and my dog are both being douches. - -;
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on August 15, 2009, 03:05:41 AM
Ew, FileZilla. If ever there was an ugly duckling of an FTP app, that's it.

Grumpy because of a sore throat. Hope it doesn't turn into something worse.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 15, 2009, 08:43:57 PM
Haha. Yeah, well, the price is right. :P

(And I've never used another one, so I really can't compare.)

Grumpiness: Went to apply for a bursary just now. Apparently, though, I don't qualify because I'm not up to my ears in student loans.

And here I thought I was doing the smart thing by trying to AVOID debt. Silly me.

Excuse me, I have to go conjure this year's tuition and expenses from thin air now.

::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 18, 2009, 06:40:23 PM
Well that's alright the bursar office wouldn't even talk to me until i went to orientation which because i had to reapply was the last one....and that lead to the eventual impossiblity of me getting subsidized loans do to my change in financial status (mom got laid off & dad's work is off) so i'm stuck with unsubsidized even though my brother received subsidized
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on August 18, 2009, 07:18:23 PM
Did you do an actual honeymoon?

No chance; Med School Orientation was 2 days after the wedding.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 22, 2009, 08:53:55 AM
So. Earlier today, I turned on my laptop. I was on for barely five minutes (maybe), and I wasn't even really doing anything, and all of a sudden, this antivirus thing pops up saying my computer is infected with a bunch of Trojans, and I try to exit out of it, but it won't let me. So I go to the Control Panel, thinking that if I remove the program, that will solve my problem. But I get this error telling me that I don't have access to the control panel. So I try SuperAntiSpyware, which again comes up with the same error....

Well. I'm more than minorly frustrated at this point, so I call my dad (it's lovely to have a computer programmer as my father...) who tells me to shut my computer off and he'll look at it when he comes home. Which he does (and as a funny little side-note, when he turned it back on, it wouldn't let me open ANYTHING. Not even Spider Solitaire...), and he fixed it. Eight Trojans. Argh. My computer just won't stay uninfected for more than three months.

The stupid thing is that even though it's uninfected now, it still pops up with that error, telling me that I can't access whatever program I'm trying to run, but the program will still run. Even though the error says it won't....Stupid computer. I hate you....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on August 22, 2009, 07:11:14 PM
This one's for you, Wilson: Ars Technica Guide to Malware and How to Avoid It (http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2004/11/malware.ars).

My sister's computer is a virus magnet. My dad's computer never picks up viruses. I strongly suspect the difference is not in the computers. ;)

(Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm trying to be helpful here.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 22, 2009, 09:27:39 PM
Oh, I know. It's my fault this problem started. I shouldn't have gone to certain sites to watch some of the movies and tv shows I did. I know that's how I picked it up in the first place. The thing that gets me is that my dad cleaned my computer (this was last November). He cleaned it GOOD. There was nothing wrong with it for about three months, and then it got reinfected. Again because of my stupidity....

But at this point, I'm going solely to site that I know are safe. I'm not clicking links, I'm not opening junk mail. As far as I know, I'm doing everything I should be, yet somehow my computer keeps picking these things up.

Anyway. Thanks for the link. Reading it right now.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 23, 2009, 04:31:41 PM
If you get a suspicious popup, only close it by right-clicking the taskbar button and selecting Close. Buttons on the popup itself might be fake.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on August 23, 2009, 04:55:06 PM
I . . . . really really want to play WoW again. . . . but I've been clean for over a year.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 25, 2009, 11:09:38 PM
Darnit! I ordered the wrong type of memory and didn't realize it until I opened the box. At least I didn't open the packaging and they'll take it back with no restocking fee... Sigh.

EDIT: Not only that, but the wireless card I got for Karen does not fit her computer. I suck.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 27, 2009, 11:50:30 PM
While we're on the subject of computer woes...

I think it may be time for a new monitor. This one keeps going pink.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 27, 2009, 11:53:05 PM
This one keeps going pink.

...I don't think it's supposed to do that.

Mine keeps blacking out on me when it's running on batteries. Only sometimes it's not blacked out. Sometimes it's a bright green. Or some other unnatural color....Odd.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 28, 2009, 12:24:19 AM
...I don't think it's supposed to do that. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on August 28, 2009, 12:31:03 AM
Raethe, if it's a CRT, you may just have some weird wires in the cord shorting if that's any comfort. No matter what kind of monitor it is, if it has a replaceable cord, you could do what the name says to it.

Sounds like yours is a connection issue as well, wilson. Does the tilt affect the badness?

I created some awkward by conversing with a totally gorgeous model who is my friend-from-high-school-who-is-a-girl's second cousin. Where do I go wrong? Can't I just harass random beautiful women on the internet without them being [that one religion]? And a relative of a friend? It's a good bet that the Empire knows we're here my friend now knows that I totally chatted up her cousin.

P.S. It's not quite as bad as I make it sound, but still.
P.P.S. I don't do this on a regular basis. This is the only time I've done this, in fact.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 28, 2009, 02:00:29 AM
Sounds like yours is a connection issue as well, wilson. Does the tilt affect the badness?

No. It doesn't do it all the time either. Just about half the time I'm running on batteries, and only when I've been off the AC for over an hour...The screen goes a solid color (could be pretty much anything. I've seen charcoal, green, light gray, white...and a few others. Mostly charcoal), and I have to restart the computer to get it back to normal. Not even closing the laptop--which normally puts it into hibernation--does anything. I hit the button that should put it into hibernation and the screen goes black, and then I take my finger off it, and it goes back to whatever color it was before....Stupid.

I really just need to have it taken apart. My brother's best friend is insanely good with laptops and computers--he's built more than his fair share--and he'd probably be able to figure out what's wrong with it....But hey--at least mine isn't randomly freezing up, like my sister's. She reboots it and sometimes it freezes again within 5-10 minutes of the reboot.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 30, 2009, 03:20:48 AM
Ugh. Was going to go out to karaoke tonight at a favourite haunt... and it turns out they're not having karaoke. (Which we discovered five minutes before phoning ahead - as we phone ahead because it's a bit of a drive.) Now I'm disappointed.

Now my mother's phoning other places to see if THEY have karaoke (in Kelowna, which is even more of a drive). Meh. If we're not going to the Saxon I'd really rather stay home and work. =(

Edit: Also, the writing  in my first draft is embarassingly bad. I want to gouge my eyes out with a spoon now.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on August 31, 2009, 06:53:57 AM
So, Joe Sparks (of Radiskull fame) came up to Reno for the weekend & we went out to get smoothies at a local Vietnamese place... only to find out that they closed half an hour before we got there.  Bleh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 03, 2009, 08:33:45 PM
I have such short stubby fingers. Playing even moderately difficult chords can be a pain. Usually literally. 
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 03, 2009, 09:04:57 PM
One of the cars needs a new fuel pump (we think- we don't know yet).  It looks like we'll be paying rent extremely late this month.  Again.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on September 03, 2009, 11:02:41 PM
Books are expensive. Bleh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on September 04, 2009, 09:39:33 AM
Silk maybe you should switch to a horn or marimba. :)
Then finger length wouldn't count so much.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 04, 2009, 05:26:11 PM
I play horn too (trombone). But for the vast majority of instruments I play require fingers, and I don't particularly want to give any of them up. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 04, 2009, 10:39:38 PM
I'm with you, Silk....Not that I play a lot of instruments. All I got is the piano, but with my small hands, I can barely hit an octave. There are some songs where my hand is in serious pain by the end because of how much I've stretched it....Yet I wouldn't give the piano up for anything. So much fun.

Grumpiness: I was going to go to a concert in Pocatello on the 19th. The band was Making April, my favorite band. They just announced on their blog that the tour is canceled, and the whole band is now on hiatus. And from how it sounded, it doesn't seem like they'll be getting back together.

I never got to see them play live. It's very disappointing.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 04, 2009, 11:31:52 PM
Having a noticeable tinnitus day. Which is frustrating, since I haven't been noticing it during the day for months. (Still notice when going to bed at night, but not for long.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 06, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
my books were almost 700 dollars and only 1 is hard back!!!! whats up with that?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on September 06, 2009, 09:44:28 PM
Dang Kaz, that's obscene. I think my record is $400. This semester I got away for under $300, and here I am whining about it. Perspective is everything I suppose.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 07, 2009, 06:23:47 AM
Uh... $700 for textbooks? There's no freaking way I would pay that. Unless one of them included a free copy of Adobe Creative Suite or something.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 07, 2009, 06:32:14 AM
I wouldn't pay that much either. I'd find them online for much cheaper....Fortunately, this semester I don't think I have a whole lot of books to get. Especially if I get into those 2 German classes. One book for both, and I already have it...

No, my deal isn't the books. One of my classes charged me an extra $100, since there's field trips for it....I understand field trip charges, but $100? I can barely afford tuition as it is....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on September 07, 2009, 12:35:12 PM
At my elder brother's suggestion, I began using www.abebooks.com this semester. I got a $120 Physics book for $70, though that was used. However, a lot of the stock they have are international editions of the exact same book. I got my Differential Equations book for much cheaper as an international edition.

Lordy, Kaz, how many books did you need to buy, and how many credits are you taking? Even when I was in my honors seminar, where I needed to purchase about nine books, it never got that bad.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 07, 2009, 04:39:48 PM
12 books; 17 hours though i only get 16 credit hours due to a b.s. mandatory rhetoric 1101 which is 2 hours but i only get 1 hour of credit; 110.75 for a softback genetics textbook used!

Classes
Mon, Wed- Rhet 1101
Mon, Wed, Fri- Exploration of the Arts, History (spanish colonies to reconstruction), and Applied Calculus
Tue, Thur- Genetics, Business Public Law
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 08, 2009, 08:37:38 PM
My book hasn't revised itself yet. Why hasn't it magically revised itself yet? I'm not actually expected to do it myself, am I? Surely?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 12, 2009, 09:41:54 PM
My phone is stupid. Or maybe it's the service. I don't know. I'm on Verizon, and normally it works perfectly well. Never had any complaints with it. Until today. For some reason, my phone is showing that I have service when in fact I really don't. I can't call or text anyone, nor can anyone call or text me. Nothing goes through. Text messages fail in the sending, and the calls are lost. Very frustrated right now.

I'd go to the Verizon store here to sort it out, but it's across town, and I don't have a car. And all my roommates are gone....Argh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: JCHancey on September 13, 2009, 10:33:46 AM
I paid less than $50 for 5 text books, 2 paperback 3 hardcover. Chegg.com FTW!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on September 14, 2009, 03:37:05 PM
12 books; 17 hours though i only get 16 credit hours due to a b.s. mandatory rhetoric 1101 which is 2 hours but i only get 1 hour of credit; 110.75 for a softback genetics textbook used!

Classes
Mon, Wed- Rhet 1101
Mon, Wed, Fri- Exploration of the Arts, History (spanish colonies to reconstruction), and Applied Calculus
Tue, Thur- Genetics, Business Public Law

I weep for you. With notoriously expensive calculus books and classes with so many books, I seriously weep for you. Not fun.

You know what else isn't fun? An ankle sprain!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 15, 2009, 03:21:48 AM
Second week of class and I still don't even know exactly what my class schedule looks like.

Running around in circles to (try to) get things straightened out. Augh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 15, 2009, 03:59:06 AM
Week 3 unless you count my 1st 2 day week as a week.... and your more or less stuck with your schedule at UTD
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: readerMom on September 15, 2009, 09:06:20 PM
One of my best friends from high school's husband died over the weekend. I've never gone to a funeral for someone my own age before.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 16, 2009, 03:03:52 AM
I took my laptop into the computer help desk here on campus. They had me leave it with them. Then they called me about 3 hours later and told me they would have to wipe it....Fortunately, they're going to back up the few folders that I really need, but it still sucks that in order to clean the malware and crap off the drive they have to completely reformat it...I hate my computer.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 16, 2009, 03:43:45 AM
Well thats discouraging... :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on September 16, 2009, 05:33:17 AM
How much do they charge for that?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 16, 2009, 06:18:01 AM
I just spent twenty minutes trying to add funds to my cell phone. And no, I was not ultimately successful. Grr.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on September 16, 2009, 06:51:38 AM
You can *add funds* to your cell phone? Where are you, Japan?

(Japanese phones can function like credit cards.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 16, 2009, 07:21:22 AM
Yes, Japan.

No, I use a pay-as-you-go plan, so I just buy a prepaid card with X amount of money that's good for X amount of time.  Or usually I do. I haven't had a chance to actually get out and buy one lately, so I'm stuck trying to add funds via credit card, which isn't working. Useless piece of crap. -.-
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on September 16, 2009, 07:34:16 AM
Oh, heh, yeah, of course. Remember that I'm a programmer; we're a little daft at natural language processing so you have to speak very literally to make us understand. You said "add money to my phone" and I thought you were storing money in the phone somehow (like they do in Japan). ;)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 16, 2009, 04:06:27 PM
Silk, try going to website.  I had a pre-paid phone for a while, and I remember that you could use the cards (which gave you a code to enter on your phone), or you could pay online.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 16, 2009, 09:23:01 PM
You know you haven't worked out in too long when you, like John McCaine, have problems lifting your arms above shoulder height. Seriously i had to get milk off the top shelf and had to grit my teeth due to Monday's work out.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 17, 2009, 03:40:51 AM
Today was my hubby and I's three year anniversary.  It wasn't disastrous, but it wasn't all that great either.  More "ho-hum" than anything else. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on September 17, 2009, 05:21:31 AM
Today was my hubby and I's three year anniversary.  It wasn't disastrous, but it wasn't all that great either.  More "ho-hum" than anything else. :P

Psh, methinks that's Happiness topic material ;)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 18, 2009, 05:35:56 PM
How much do they charge for that?

I have no idea. I was in there last week for almost 2 hours, and the guy put on malware bytes and ran a bunch of tests and stuff, and it was free. I expect to have to pay this time around, but I have no idea how much it'll be...

I actually went in there yesterday to see how it was going. I'd gotten a call telling me they were done backing it up and were going to start the reformat. When I went in there, the guy who is pretty much in charge took a look at it and said that my recovery partition may be corrupted, and if that's the case they're going to need my CD's--which I left at home. Fortunately, my sisters are coming up tomorrow and will bring them. And my dad's sending our Office discs with them as well, so I can be sure to get Office back on it....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 21, 2009, 02:44:23 AM
So i got a date with a pretty, bright, and even atheltic girl... from 2-5 today, awesome right? Not really, she was the soul of courtesy even laughed, and said she had fun. However, i got the impression i won't get a second date... maybe this is my insecurtity (yes the only thing that can make me insecure is a date) coming through or possibly inexpierence. Miserable feeling in your gut... how is it that a smile can feel worst than a grimace? Hopefully I'm reading this all wrong.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on September 21, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
I have swine flu. No fun.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 21, 2009, 09:50:13 PM
Don't do anything stupid now...i.e comatose, dieing,ect.

That bites... well what can they do for you since antibiotics are worthless in your scenario? Don't forget to drink lots!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 22, 2009, 01:05:21 AM
Wow, Andrew. That really sucks.

Ryos--they didn't charge anything. I got it back today (so they had it for almost a week), and it was free. Simply amazing. I love this school. :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on September 22, 2009, 02:51:54 AM
Kaz, I have an antiviral medication that I'm taking that supposedly helps to minimize the effects and helps me get over it quicker. Not sure how that works, but oh well.

I caught it in the fairly early stages, so since they started treating it, it apparently shouldn't be as bad as it could have been otherwise.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 22, 2009, 05:06:33 AM
House premiere was on but our antenna wasn't picking up Fox. :( :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 24, 2009, 04:32:16 AM
I don't have any cats.  :(  (sorry, just had to say it, once.  I'll be quiet about my lack of fuzzy purr-boxes now...)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on September 24, 2009, 04:45:02 AM
Shouldn't that have gone in the happy thread?

Need to do homework; can't concentrate to save my life; trawling teh intarwebz instead.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 24, 2009, 10:02:43 PM
Shouldn't that have gone in the happy thread?

Need to do homework; can't concentrate to save my life; trawling teh intarwebz instead.

?  I take it you don't like cats?  But I do, you see, so for me it is... less happy.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on September 24, 2009, 11:23:02 PM
As my dad always says, "The best cat is a dead cat. Preferably one at least five miles away and buried at least 6 feet under."
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 25, 2009, 12:34:29 AM
*shakes head in pity of all those with no knowledge of the awesomeness and excellence that is cats*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 25, 2009, 12:51:44 AM
My brother has two cats. They are cool. My neighbor (at home) has about 5 gazillion. They are not cool. I have a craving (that I would never, ever satisfy, just so you know) to throw one of her devil cats off the bridge. I live near the Snake River Canyon, so that fall would be about 500 feet....

Again, I would NEVER actually do it. It's purely an imaginary thing. My conscious won't let me, even though I was highly entertained (and horrified) when I heard of a guy who threw a cat doused in gasoline off the bridge. It lit on fire.... :o
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on September 25, 2009, 01:50:16 AM
It doesn't help that me just being around cats turns my eyes into two red orbs of itchiness.

Well, OK, it *does* help. It means I have an excuse to never, ever own a cat. Yay!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 25, 2009, 02:05:10 AM
Ok, I can see how allergies would severely limit anyone's enjoyment of... pretty much anything, really.

And LW... :o  That's... wow.  Hrm.  Although, much as I like cats, I can see how five gazillion would be downright annoying.  And stinky.  But I still want at least one.  *sigh*  Stupid lease...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on September 25, 2009, 02:26:41 AM
My dad is allergic to cats too. I just don't like them.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 25, 2009, 03:40:49 AM
My dad is allergic to cats too.

Same with my dad. He used to have hay fever really bad. Still does, but it's not as bad. We had no chance of getting cats when we were younger--not that we would've, since my neighbor has enough for pretty much the whole street plus some, and we've always been more for dogs, but....oh well.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 25, 2009, 05:54:48 PM
I hated cats before i became allergic now i hate them more. Wilson you should totaly fufil your desire and put it on Youtube for the rest of us to enjoy! :P After all it may end your discouraged state and make you just cruel.


P.S. If we don't get the cats now they WILL get us later...watch Cats and Dogs and remember TV never lies!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 25, 2009, 06:02:27 PM
Wilson you should totaly fufil your desire and put it on Youtube for the rest of us to enjoy! :P After all it may end your discouraged state and make you just cruel.

Um. No. I'm pretty sure that's a felony, and if it's not (which I would be surprised) it's at least a misdemeanor. If I didn't do time, I'd at least be fined a hefty amount....I'm a poor college student. I don't have that kind of money, nor do I want something like cruelty to animals on my permanent record before I even turn 25.

Heck, I don't want ANYTHING on my record before then (or after that, preferably). Even if it was for the noble cause of the enjoyment of you folks (although, I'm positive there would be more than a few who would not be humored by it in the slightest...).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 25, 2009, 06:08:11 PM
What you mean that people would shun you for a comedic act? what is the world coming too?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 25, 2009, 06:12:00 PM
A comedic act? Is that what throwing a cat off a bridge is? This is no small bridge....See? (http://www.visitidaho.org/press/assets/images/hires/PerrineBridge6.jpg) I'm positive it's illegal to throw things off it, much less live things. If I were caught (which I would be, if not in the act, at least when it was posted on youtube), things would not be pretty....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on September 25, 2009, 11:03:03 PM
You could just claim that is was an undead cat, and the only way to kill it was to light it on fire and throw it off the bridge.

As for why you had to kill it, well.... You could claim it was part of the great kitten conspiracy, and as such had to be destroyed. I like this plan.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on September 25, 2009, 11:11:15 PM
You could just claim that is was an undead cat, and the only way to kill it was to light it on fire and throw it off the bridge.

As for why you had to kill it, well.... You could claim it was part of the great kitten conspiracy, and as such had to be destroyed. I like this plan.

An undead anything is reason to kill it. Or unkill it, at least.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 25, 2009, 11:18:50 PM
*vehemently objects to the direction this conversation is taking* >:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on September 26, 2009, 12:16:23 AM
I actually really like cats. One of my friends got a kitten this summer and it is pretty much the cutest thing ever.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 26, 2009, 12:26:12 AM
Yeah. I love kittens. They're adorable. And then they grow up to be cats, which aren't as adorable. Although, I must admit, my brother's cats are really cool.

And I already said, it's illegal to throw things off the bridge, undead or not....Well. Actually. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've heard that you can't throw undead things off the bridge. Live is a given. Dead is given. Inanimate is a given. But undead...Hmm.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on September 26, 2009, 01:06:26 AM
You know, I've always wanted to test the Buttered Cat Paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttered_cat_paradox). If a few cats must die for science, well, then that's just a perk of the job. ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on September 26, 2009, 01:11:10 AM
Ah, yes. Science. There's no better reason to kill a few cats. Well. Except to rid the world of a few cats....Anyway, I would be VERY interested in learning the outcome of that test...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 26, 2009, 04:23:47 AM
While we are giving cats legal rights we may as well say that they have feelings too... psshhh so ridculus its like commies having feelings
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on September 26, 2009, 08:45:57 AM
People suck.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 26, 2009, 06:34:03 PM
My brother made me sick.

:(

(Also, I looked at my profile and now I want cake. At 10:43 in the morning. Which is silly.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 26, 2009, 09:24:42 PM
Being sick on your birthday sucks...and how did your brother make you sick?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 26, 2009, 09:51:38 PM
It does. Also, being sick in general sucks; I don't have time to be sick.

And, uh, by being contagious, I guess. He got sick first, so I get to blame him. =D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 27, 2009, 05:55:16 AM
Did he visit or are you living together?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 27, 2009, 08:53:15 AM
We're living together. Inherently practical beings that we are, we're both freeloading off the folks while we're still in school.

Grumpiness: Cold thing gone from "sore throat and occasional cough" to "lucky I haven't hacked up a lung yet". Also my voice died on me during karaoke, which means that I got to sound like a demented frog on drugs. In front of people. Woo.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Frog on September 28, 2009, 04:08:04 PM
Yay for singing frogs impersonations!

Oh, wait sorry you're sick, Silk. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 28, 2009, 06:18:41 PM
Yeah, I can tell. ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 29, 2009, 05:55:56 PM
It appears I need to host my avatar somewhere else.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on September 29, 2009, 08:27:12 PM
Yeah, Ookla, I haven't seen it today or yesterday. I think. My firewall blocks half of your avatars anyway, so I just assumed that that was the deal.

Will people stop looking at me funny already? Jeez. I've been in your class for a month.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 29, 2009, 10:33:11 PM
Hrm. Maybe it's just time for me to retire the handle.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on September 29, 2009, 11:51:24 PM
So I didn't do particularly well on the Physics exam. We'll have to wait and see how it's graded...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on September 30, 2009, 06:24:01 PM
It's snowing today. Need I say more?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 30, 2009, 09:42:51 PM
Pardon me, but i'm from Dallas... what's snow?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 01, 2009, 02:54:53 AM
Something Bozeman, Montana has an odd affinity to.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 01, 2009, 03:35:01 PM
It's snowing today. Need I say more?

*shudders*

Got up early to call a credit card company--that I don't actually have a card or a bank account with--that "required my immediate attention". The good news is that it was apparently a screw-up, since the rep I talked to couldn't figure out why they were calling me in the first place. The bad news is I had to get up early to deal with it (and was up all night worrying about it). :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 01, 2009, 09:04:09 PM
Those messages are ussually identity scams
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 02, 2009, 12:23:07 AM
That was what I thought at first. I got worried after I verified that the phone number they left for me was legit. But it appears to have just been a mix-up anyway, so...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on October 05, 2009, 05:46:51 PM
So the past two years, I've gone home the first weekend in October, and both times it snowed in Rexburg, but not in Twin (where I'm from). So I have missed the snow. This was my goal this year, but, alas, my goal failed.

Not only did it snow just about all day Sunday in Twin, when I got back to Rexburg last night--where it hadn't snowed at all over the weekend--it started snowing a bit later. And it hasn't really stopped. Now, granted there isn't really a whole lot of snow on the ground because it isn't sticking, but still. I think the snow is following me, and I don't appreciate it. I would much rather be followed by nice, sunny weather.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 05, 2009, 10:39:06 PM
And how does that make you feel?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 06, 2009, 03:50:57 AM
Grumpy, apparently.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 06, 2009, 04:14:11 AM
Ahah. Peter took the words out of my mouth.

Speaking of grumpy: I want this cold to go away now. It's been a week and a half; I want my singing voice back.

My ability to breathe unhindered would also be nice. But that's, you know, secondary.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: stridera on October 07, 2009, 10:35:09 PM
Breathing is overrated!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 07, 2009, 11:28:22 PM
But singing is not. I'm with Silk, I would love to be able to sing again (I also have an ugly cold).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: stridera on October 07, 2009, 11:54:31 PM
I would love to be able to sing... period...

I can do the rock band thing, but I don't think it really counts.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 08, 2009, 12:34:06 AM
What do you mean? Yelling prettily takes talent too you know! :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on October 08, 2009, 04:43:05 AM
A moderately intelligent friend of mine has a penchant for entirely ignoring fact and reason when it comes to political discussion.  Gets tiring.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 08, 2009, 05:04:35 AM
Those people are only fun when there's like 30 other people who are moderately intelligent listening. Then you can all gang up and make the one person who ignores fact look like a total idiot.

But yeah, in smaller discussions, that gets really tiring really really fast. When people won't listen to you no matter what you tell them.... I sympathize.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on October 08, 2009, 06:37:08 AM
Yes, Kaz. It makes me feel grumpy to be followed by snow. In October.

Anyway. I went country dancing tonight. It was fun. Until I fell down a few stairs and ended up bruising my tailbone. Pain is not my friend. In fact, I hate it.

The worst part is that I have a required field trip for one of my classes down to central Utah, and we're leaving tomorrow morning. 4 hours in a van will not help my tailbone feel any better....And we'll be sleeping in tents. For 2 nights. Normally I would be happy about this. I love camping. But not with a bruised tailbone. Ugh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 08, 2009, 03:30:14 PM
Ugh. That sucks, Wilson.

Grumpy: Got a letter from the above-mentioned credit card company yesterday, only this time it was telling me I had ten days (from when the letter was sent on September 30th--I got this letter yestreday!) to pay them nearly $300 or face legal action.

I still don't have a credit card with that company. ::)

(Turns out it was just a filing error--they have someone whose name is very close to mine and I was getting all their letters and phone calls. Still not nice. And I still had to get up early to deal with it.)

Also on the grumpy front, I cannot believe how exhausted I am right now. Apparently constantly coughing and hacking up bits of lung takes it out of a person...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on October 08, 2009, 09:54:47 PM
Girl troubles, or the lack thereof.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on October 08, 2009, 10:13:23 PM
Stinks to have girl troubles, and stinks not to. Hmm...

Women: Always a Problem™. ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on October 08, 2009, 10:39:12 PM
@Silk: it'll suck even more for the person you letter-ologically resemble.  Imagine getting legal action out of the metaphorical blue... although, they really should be paying more attention, considering it's their credit card.

Ugh.  I have to clean out my fridge.  Time to break out the gas masks, rubber gloves and (quite possibly) traps.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 08, 2009, 11:35:24 PM
What would you want girl troubles for? "stay away" is a pretty good answer so far as I'm concerned. =D

Raven: Well, yes, but yes, they SHOULD be paying more attention. Also, since the credit card company gaffed by sending that person's mail and phone calls to me (the letter included the credit card number... gotta love that kind of security) I should hope they'll actually try to get ahold of this person again before coming down on them with lawsuits.

Uh. I should probably go destroy that letter now.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 08, 2009, 11:59:45 PM
Stinks to have girl troubles, and stinks not to. Hmm...

Women: Always a Problem™. ;D

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 09, 2009, 04:12:48 AM
Sortitus i feel your pain... i have no clue where i stand with this chick at school

P.S. my one fear the unknown/ uncertainty
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on October 09, 2009, 08:17:04 PM
What would you want girl troubles for? "stay away" is a pretty good answer so far as I'm concerned. =D
Well, in that case, I'll use that line on her. "Hi, would you like to go to homecoming with STAY AWAY!!!" *headasplode*

See, I used to be legendarily good with the ladies (no, really!), but I must have lost something after my well-timed (not really) year-long exile. My short hair? All social ability whatsoever (parenthetical comments can really derail the flow, can't they)?

I'll admit that I've changed wicked-much, but this stuff is supposed to be easy, dang it (yeah, buddy)! (bonus)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 10, 2009, 05:46:04 AM
Skyline lost the Emotion Bowl. Badly. (See the happy things thread for my explanation of the Emotion Bowl)

It wouldn't have been so bad to lose, but we lost due to a whole bunch of really stupid mistakes. Our team was really sloppy in the first half of the game, and when they finally got it together in the second half, they still made just enough mistakes to prevent us from winning. Every time it seemed like we did something amazing, we'd do something really stupid shortly after.

For example, one of our players had an amazing interception on our 3-yard line. The catch was one of the coolest things I have ever seen. At this point, if they'd worked down the field a bit, we might have had a chance. Instead, our quarterback dropped the ball and allowed IF to take possession (on our 3 yard line). They scored, of course. That was pretty much the clincher.

But there were other moments. We had several huge runs down the field, and got to the point where we were first down and goal. Our quarterback passed it right to one of the IF players standing in the middle of the endzone, with no Skyline players within 10 feet of him. I about screamed at this point.

Realize, of course, that I'm not trying to pick on the quarterback. The whole team sucked. Miserably. In fact, I can only think of one player on the entire team who played what I could call a great game. The rest just didn't play well.

I'd attribute it to the team being bad if I hadn't seen them play other games. We've played teams that were better than us and won because of some of the brilliant plays they've done. We're the only team in our region still undefeated (until tonight, anyway). I've been to several other games watching these guys, and usually they play really well. Tonight, they all just fell apart. It was pretty much awful.

So now, I get to spend Tuesday eating my words in all of my classes at IF. And the goal posts remain orange. Between that, losing my voice from all that screaming, and the really annoying girls about 5 feet away from me the whole game, it wasn't among my favorite Emotion Bowls. It was still fun, though.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 11, 2009, 05:31:31 AM
I left my check at work...2 days running...but i work tommorrow so it's not too bad. though i must now punish myself with timeout
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on October 11, 2009, 06:15:45 AM
Football season makes me grumpy. It seems like I always get caught in their stupid football traffic jams and annoyed by their stupid football cheering and pounding on the floor. And then everyone wants to talk about the stupid football games, and they look at me like I'm a stupid heretic because I don't bow to the stupid altars of the stupid Church of Football, state religion of the United States.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 11, 2009, 04:32:24 PM
LOL how many stupids was that? Funny thing is it IS the state religon!!! :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: readerMom on October 12, 2009, 05:46:45 PM
My daughter broke her ankle and the local doctor says an orthopedic specialist should look at it.  So we have to get up at 5:30 to drive for an hour and a half to the nearest specialist. Sometimes living in a small town is annoying.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 13, 2009, 12:47:42 AM
I've always lived in a sub-urb so i wouldn't know.....

Grumpiness: Got rejected

Happiness: now that i know i can move on....who to chase ohhh who to chase
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on October 13, 2009, 09:54:38 PM
Football season makes me grumpy. It seems like I always get caught in their stupid football traffic jams and annoyed by their stupid football cheering and pounding on the floor. And then everyone wants to talk about the stupid football games, and they look at me like I'm a stupid heretic because I don't bow to the stupid altars of the stupid Church of Football, state religion of the United States.

I know how you feel, except I have lots of geeky friends.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 14, 2009, 01:07:21 AM
Either I'm just really stupid (which I haven't ruled out yet) or the UBC databases are still acting up.

Either way, grumpy.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on October 14, 2009, 04:01:22 AM
I'm grumpy because no one is online to get some dueling in.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on October 16, 2009, 04:42:07 AM
....Dueling....I miss that.

I hate my tailbone. A lot. I think I may have done more than just bruise it. So now I hate it. To no end...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Frog on October 16, 2009, 06:20:37 AM
I bet you would miss it if it were gone... and be a tad more grumpy.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 16, 2009, 01:28:53 PM
I have decided that no matter the circumstances that complaining and making excuses are part of the human codinition. Even people who hate both offer them to others on a regular basis (this does not mean some people, like myself, are more skilled and practice it more than others).


P.S. practice makes perfect!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 16, 2009, 06:01:35 PM
Slept in over an hour. Got into an epic fight with the printer, which had a paaper jam that it did not want to give up. Couldn't find an important textbook that I needed for today, spent a ridiculous amount of time looking for it and it was right under my nose the whole time.  Now my brother can't find his wallet.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 18, 2009, 03:29:25 AM
Browsers: the enemy of getting writing done.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on October 18, 2009, 04:47:18 AM
A little pain in my right hand is no fun...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 18, 2009, 08:33:36 AM
It is ridiculously hard to find hard statistics. For, well. Anything.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on October 18, 2009, 09:10:33 AM
Ambivalence FTF.
Titus: Heidi, Camille. Camille, Heidi.
Camille: I don't see anyone.
Titus: Oh, that's because I should be committed. You're not the real you either. You didn't know that?

Also, there's this girl that prank calls me every once in a while. I've spoken to her for real twice. I know her big sister (who is my sister's sister-in-law's friend :P), who participates in the pranks on occasion (as with tonight). I don't get it. She never calls me for any other reason. Perhaps I'm just in her phone and when she gets bored....

Girl, if you want to do something from me, that's totally fine. If you hang out with me at least as many times as you hit me with crank calls, I could stand it. While I love being polite, I'm totally going to lose my $#!+ if you prank call me while I'm doing something worthwhile that requires both of my hands and some semblance of concentration again. Or I'll just ignore you. One of those.

Then again, my family says, "Oh, you're so girl stupid! She totally wants to be your friend, but she's afraid to ask!" To which I say, "Riiiiight. Girls who want to be friends call people and then ignore any genuine attempts at conversation." I've tried to be nice. Now I just want to make like a T-Rex and stomp on her house.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 18, 2009, 01:08:35 PM
She definately wants you Sortitus! :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on October 20, 2009, 06:38:43 AM
My lifestyle, martial arts excluded, has suddenly turned somewhat sedentary.  I have to figure out ways to combat this which require effort.  I hate effort.

...and my thumbs are peeling, for some weird reason.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on October 20, 2009, 06:50:55 AM
If you can, bike to work. My 3 miles a day (paltry though they be) have helped my cardio-vascular health immensely, even if I've yet to lose much weight to it.

If your commute is too long to bike, it might still be in reach of an optibike (http://optibike.com). I would trade a commuter car for one of those in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on October 20, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
The power went out for about 3 hours last night. The first hour was filled with screaming and yelling, and immaturity in general. Apparently there is a lack of maturity in my apartment complex...I mean, it's not like when the power goes out it means you'll get thrown into a real-life horror story, yet that was sure what the screaming made it seem like.

Although, there was a girl carrying a butcher knife with her. She says she does it every time the power goes out. It's both creepy and smart at the same time.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on October 20, 2009, 08:28:26 PM
It's both creepy and smart at the same time.
Creepily genre savvy?

There are three girls now. I'd better do something before the number gets higher.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 20, 2009, 08:40:47 PM
What you are trying to juggle 3 girls Sortitus.... isn't that a little risky? i give you props :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on October 20, 2009, 10:55:27 PM
Slept through my TTh class, which starts at 1:35 PM. That must be some kind of record.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on October 20, 2009, 10:59:12 PM
Yes, I'm the master of non-contact juggling. Which is closely related to indecision. I'm not the master of indecision, but I've heard that it's pretty cool like non-contact juggling. What I'm trying to say is that there was no contact with any of the three, verbal or otherwise, and I have not decided.

Wait, what? I don't think I told that one right.

Greek dude, I commend you on your skill at remaining unconscious. Are you the master?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on October 24, 2009, 12:59:08 AM
So that night I bruised my tailbone, I took a test for my Geology class. We got the scores back today....Let's just say I didn't do so good. In order for me to pull off a decent grade (read: at least a B) I'm going to have to bust my butt studying for every single test left in that class....And one of them is over 75 index fossils, and it's right after Thanksgiving. Ugh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 24, 2009, 01:53:58 AM
Well, today I failed a math test for the first time in my life. I don't expect it will be the last, but hey, it's not particularly fun.

My only real  consolation is the fact that no one in the class passed. The high score was a 56%. Apparently we didn't learn the material as well as we had thought.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 24, 2009, 02:23:16 AM
Holy crap, what test was that, Andrew?

I had a differential equations exam today, which covered second-order and higher equations. I think I did fairly well. At the very least, I caught one major error on differentiation when I was doing the method of undetermined coefficients. Fairly certain there were no other major errors.

But on the other hand, I'm working the front desk on a Friday night, a night which coincidences with the Halloween ball. Oh well. I'm working in one of the two all-girls dorms, though, so it's not too terrible (The only male desk clerk here, I may add :) ). What is terrible, however, is my utter lack of math capability. I'm a math major, and it took me ten minutes to make sure all the money was in order inside both cash boxes after I broke a twenty. I can do differential equations, but numbers are too difficult, apparently.

Ironically, I'm really liking my matrix theory class, which deals with matrices... of numbers.

Finally, something is wrong with physics. I start my homework assignment here, and you'd think, "Oh, it's a 1-star difficulty problem. Out of three. It will be easy!" You'd also think that formulas for solenoids and their magnetic field would be correct, but apparently I can't substitute variables in correctly, because my answer is wrong for the energy density. This is bad. This does not bode well for the physics exam I have next Thursday (the day before my birthday, grumble), especially when the teacher loves thought-provoking physics tests. I should be able to solve an easy frickin' problem like this.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 24, 2009, 03:12:42 AM
The test was over implicit differentiation, which we just started earlier this week. And the fact that I understood approximately a third of your post highlights to me the fact that college calculus is a much different thing from high school calculus.

What I really don't get, though, is why we all did so poorly. I mean, I got 100% on all of the assignments through the week, and apparently everyone else did fairly well too. The test didn't seem all that difficult as we were taking it, but my teacher told us at the end of the period that the high score for both classes was a 56%. Incidentally, every one of the top 10 students in my graduating class is in one of those two classes. I don't know how I scored yet, but I'm hoping it was the 56. That way I still have an A in the class. But, not much I can do about it now, and I am allowed to retake, so it's not like it's the end of the world.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 24, 2009, 03:43:40 AM
Differential equations is fourth semester calculus, so don't worry about it. The language makes it seem a lot worse than it really is.

That's so weird that your class did that bad. Implicit differentiation isn't that hard, and I always know if a test didn't go well.

Though, once I took multivariable calculus (that is, third semester), I learned this really neat thing called the Implicit Function Theorem. If all you want to do is find dy/dx, it makes things a lot simpler if you are lazy like me. Basically, if we make the function of the form F(x,y) = 0 (so we'll just put all the terms on one side), then

dy/dx = - (part(F)/part(x)) / (part(F)/part(y))

Those are partial derivatives up there, which are really easy to compute. If I wanted to take the partial derivative with respect to x of (y*x^3 + y^2*e^y), that's kind of a nasty thing to differentiate, and if you're doing implicit differentiation you might not even know how to take the derivative of transcendentals like e^y. Luckily, it doesn't matter at all. The "partial" derivative is when we pretend all other variables (except the one we are differentiating--in this case, x) are constants. Now the other variables are cake, because everyone can differentiate a constant. In that example I popped up there, that derivative is 3yx^2, because that whole other term has all y's in it, so it's effectively a giant constant, making it zero. The y will act like a constant in the other one, too. All differentiation things still apply.

I guess now that I think about it you could get some really ugly implicit differentiation on tests, especially if you have to apply the quotient rule with the product rule. It gets annoying quickly. So let's just skip that crap and hope our partial derivatives simplify things!

So take a partial derivative with respect to X of that function, then y. Your answer will be -dF/dx / dF/dy. (In reality, partial derivatives are denoted with a script d, rather than a d like I'm using, but heck if I can find script d for a forum... Let's pretend my notation is right.

When you think about it, it makes sense. When you are implicitly differentiating you'll get a whole bunch of junk like this:

dy / dx (junk of a function) = (different junk)

And to solve it, we divide the junks so we get dy/dx = junk/different junk. So while I'm not going to prove the Implicit Function Theorem (because that would be unpleasant and involve the Jacobian, which I don't feel like dealing with) hopefully you can sort of see from inspection that whenever you get an answer for your implicit differentiation, it will be the quotient of two functions. In effect, what you do with implicit differentiation is exactly the same as computing partials.

So that probably flew over your head. It might impress your teacher when you start whipping out the partials though.

(Indeed, any solution you get implicitly, you could check with this method. Perhaps it would be a good thing to remember for the final, to check your work. Hopefully you have time to do so, and if not, that's cruel.) 

You might not believe me, but multivariable calculus was the easiest of all four semesters of calc, also the most fun. Differential equations isn't hard, either, as it basically boils down to "I know the type of solution it looks like, so here's the answer". There's plenty of ugly algebra though. Multivariable sounds ominous, but only once did I have truly atrocious algebra.

...I'm a little bored, as you can tell.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 24, 2009, 04:42:01 AM
Yeah. Calculus itself so far has been incredibly easy. It's the algebra that can get a little ugly.

As for the test, the only problems that I really had difficulty with were the two that involved several trig functions and the use of either the product and quotient rules or the chain and quotient rules. But apparently those weren't the only two problems that I had difficulty with.

Like you said, implicit differentiation really isn't that hard. I don't know why it went so badly.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 24, 2009, 04:42:41 AM
My homecoming dance is my Halloween Ball and it is on Halloween... and i got a hot date  :)

Grumpiness: my date may have to back out due to stupid Sorority (yeah i can't spell) duties

Algebra is fun Cal isn't...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 24, 2009, 04:55:02 AM
Yeah. Calculus itself so far has been incredibly easy. It's the algebra that can get a little ugly.

As for the test, the only problems that I really had difficulty with were the two that involved several trig functions and the use of either the product and quotient rules or the chain and quotient rules. But apparently those weren't the only two problems that I had difficulty with.

Like you said, implicit differentiation really isn't that hard. I don't know why it went so badly.

Yeah, quotient rule can spike up that difficulty so fast. Good thing you don't really deal with it *too* much in higher maths.

Algebra is fun Cal isn't...

I will find you a problem that will make you a liar. I can think of one off the top of my head, but it's "merely" a function that boils down to solving linear equations. I'll give you a calculus problem with nonlinear equations and show you where your mouth is. Four equations, four unknowns, but the amount of solutions you get could be ten, twelve, sixteen, or anything really.

Let's compare.

Find the maximum value of -x^3-2x^2 + 3. That's easy calculus.

Doing that in three dimensions, however, is not. Trust me.

When you get up into the higher maths, your basic technique is fine. You just somehow forget to add. Or multiply. Or you missed a negative sign. Ridiculous stuff.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on October 24, 2009, 05:17:28 AM
stupid Sorority (yeah i can't spell) duties
Did somebody say my name? (ICYWTK, you did spell that right.)

The Bio teacher is dumb. "All you need to know is the basic workings of biology. After all, this is not for majors." Questions 30-40 (of 60): What is this? [Diagram of various complex chemical compounds] _______

Wow. I'm glad that we aren't in the course for majors. Also, I'm sure that I'll be grateful that you made us memorize every freaking chemical that has anything to do with biology's structure in twenty years. Not.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on October 24, 2009, 07:32:00 AM
My Geology teacher grades on a curve. To my knowledge, the highest grade in the class was a 94. I got a 68, and I think that's after the curve....So without it, I got a 62. And my over-all grade is now a D. A high D, but a D nonetheless. I don't like D's. I can deal with C's, but D's....No. Not cool.

And Chaos, your posts confuse me. I have no idea what you're talking about, since I know nothing about Calculus. And now I don't want to know. I am extremely happy that I completed my math requirements at College Algebra....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 24, 2009, 04:55:27 PM
I take pointless Applied Cal 1 and 2 and then Linear Algebra for a stinking B.S. in Business Admin.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 24, 2009, 05:00:54 PM
Linear algebra is the easiest class I've ever taken. It's interesting and it's new material, but it's not "hard" in any sense.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 24, 2009, 05:04:44 PM
I always make pointless errors in math therefore i dislike math. (i know the concept always i divide instead of subtracting ect.) not to mention graphs suck!!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 24, 2009, 05:09:33 PM
See Kaz? It's the algebra errors that flub people up :P

Good thing in linear algebra you don't divide things. You multiply by their inverse. It's a really neat way to solve systems of linear equations.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 24, 2009, 09:06:08 PM
It is ridiculously hard to find hard numbers for things. If anyone ever tells you that we've entered a golden information age, that person is lying.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on October 25, 2009, 05:15:00 AM
Technically those errors are arithmatic or however you spell elementary school math.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 28, 2009, 03:14:08 AM
Did our seminar presentation today. For one thing, preparing for it was a long, horrible process. Also, nobody laughed at our jokes. =( Not one friggin' person.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 28, 2009, 05:54:10 AM
I would be much happier if Windows 7 would actually boot. I'm blaming it on Windows Update.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: stridera on October 28, 2009, 10:52:38 AM
I would be happy if I didn't keep making stupid literary mistakes... and if sortitus would stop laughing at them.  :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on October 28, 2009, 11:02:30 AM
I would be happy if I didn't keep making stupid literary mistakes... and if sortitus would stop laughing at them.  :P
And I'd be happy if I were asleep right now. Life's tough. ;)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on October 30, 2009, 04:27:10 PM
I can solve the problem on my math project, which involves using complex (wee, imaginary numbers!) arithmetic. I showed my answer works, even though the coefficients on my particular solution are god-awful.

However. When I attempt to do the problem with the normal method of undetermined coefficients--you know, using real numbers--I get a particular solution which does not solve the differential equation. At all. Not even close.

In review: the more complicated mathematics gives me the right answer, but the normal math gives me the wrong one. ...Hard is easy, easy is hard. Crazy, isn't it?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on October 30, 2009, 06:19:12 PM
I looked at my midterm grades last night....And they make me very unhappy. My GPA is screwed.

EDIT: Okay, so the main class I was worried about it turns out I shouldn't be as worried about. I think I may be able to pull off a fairly decent grade after all.

However, it's starting to get cold here. And I thought I was developing a cough. Now I'm convinced it's not a cough. My bronchitis is coming back. I can feel the inflammation in the back of my throat. My coughing is getting worse. My breathing is getting louder....And it's only going to get worse.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 31, 2009, 01:23:23 AM
My aunt passed away two days ago after a long struggle with cancer. I didn't know her well at all, but I'm still disappointed that I won't be able to attend the funeral.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on October 31, 2009, 01:41:27 AM
Ah, Silk, that sucks. Similar thing almost happened for me when my grandpa died a couple years ago...Is school what's going to keep you away, distance, or something else?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on October 31, 2009, 05:30:16 AM
School, distance, cost.

My mother's actually already down there, but because this was so last minute (for us, that is--we found out last evening, and the funeral is tomorrow) driving down there is out of the question. (I'm pulling this number out of the air, but as a guesstimate let's call it, oh, a 12-15 hour drive.) She was able to catch a last minute flight this morning, but couldn't've afforded a ticket for me also (netiher could I). Also, I had to write a midterm this afternoon, and her flight left before my exam. So. Didn't really work.  It's sad.

...

While I'm whining about all the places I couldn't be this weekend because of school/distance/cost, would you people at World Fantasy STOP HAVING FUN already? Jeez.

(There. Behold that wonderful segue into rather less morbid material!)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on November 02, 2009, 04:20:32 AM
Wow, Silk, that does suck.  I had to miss both my grandfathers funerals due to distance and financial issues a while back.

Also, I have bruised and extremely sore knees, and my brain refuses to let go of the story in my head so I can get it on the page. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on November 02, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
This is so not bronchitis. Yet it's not quite a cold either....Coughing, I hate. Also, I'm running out of cough drops. And my throat is dead.

Basically, I hate being sick. That is all.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on November 02, 2009, 08:38:55 PM
I feel your pain, Wilson. I'm also sick. AGAIN. I think my cold/pneumonia/swine flu/bronchitis/whatever-it-was ::) was gone for all of two weeks and now I'm coughing and hacking again.

I can handle being sick again, I suppose. But if my singing voice is ruined for another month because of it, I'm going to be CHOKED.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on November 02, 2009, 08:48:51 PM
Silk is ahead of me by 150 post... :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on November 03, 2009, 01:31:47 AM
cold/pneumonia/swine flu/bronchitis/whatever-it-was

You don't know what you have either? I wonder if we have the same thing....

Quote
and now I'm coughing and hacking again.

Yep. Sure sounds the same. Lots of hacking. Throw in a splitting headache the first few days and a slight fever and that'll be me spot on.

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But if my singing voice is ruined

Heh. I hear you. I can't sing worth anything right now. I can barely even talk....Heck, I couldn't talk this morning. My roommate started talking to me when I walked out into the kitchen, and I went to respond and it was just a croak....Ugh.

About the swine flu, though....I have the same thing as another roommate, and she thinks she has it. I don't think we do. Sure, I've never had it, but it's the flu. I've had the flu before and this aint it. However, I wouldn't mind too terribly if it was. I mean, if I get it, I'll at least be immunized to other strains of it, should it mutate. That's what the influenza virus did in 1918. Those who got influenza in 1916 didn't get sick the second time around....Now is the time to get the Flu of Pigs.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 03, 2009, 04:34:35 AM
Swine flu = pretty much not that bad at all, unless you get a really serious case of it.

I mean, yeah, it was unpleasant, but honestly, I'd prefer what I had to the regular flu any day.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on November 03, 2009, 04:53:50 AM
...I was just talking to a girl I know tonight who had swine flu. There's actually a fairly good chance I do have it, which sucks, because that means I shouldn't go to my classes. But in order to miss them with no penalty, I'll have to go to a doctor to make sure, which will require paying money....which I don't have. Yet if I still go to my classes, there's a chance I could get other people sick (not that I'm coughing on people or anything like that. I'm being sanitary. But there's always a chance...). And that's just not cool.

Did you have a high fever, Andrew? Because I was told by the girl that the two big symptoms are muscle aching and a high fever. And I haven't had either. I had a light fever, but I had a major headache (which she said she had a huge headache too, and that it's another symptom). And I don't get headaches.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 03, 2009, 06:47:56 AM
I had a high fever, but only after about three days. The first three days were a really bad cold and some minor nausea. The high fever came after the cold left, and at the tail end of the nausea. Then, I developed a gross cough after that.

It's basically a combination of every minor disease you've ever had. It hits everyone a little bit differently, too. I know some people who went the entire time without showing any fever. Some don't have nausea. Everyone I've talked to so far has had a cold, though. Except my seminary teacher. He actually went through it without showing any symptoms at all. He didn't know he'd had it until his wife got it, and the doctor had him tested as a precaution.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on November 03, 2009, 07:19:54 AM
No, I don't know what I have. I don't actually think it's swine flu, or anything serious. (Though I was starting to have my doubts after the last cold thing took like a month to go away, so maybe I shouldn't speak so soon.) ::)

Incidentally, conversations like this make me glad I'm Canadian.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 03, 2009, 07:51:10 AM
Selfish people make me grumpy.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on November 03, 2009, 04:58:38 PM
The inherent nature of man IS selfish!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on November 03, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
Wilson, you should make like the Japanese and were a surgical mask to school. That's one bit of Japanese culture I wish would spread...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on November 03, 2009, 07:33:23 PM
Wilson, you should make like the Japanese and were a surgical mask to school. That's one bit of Japanese culture I wish would spread...

That actually sounds like fun. But alas, I don't think I'll get the chance. I think whatever I have is breaking. Last night it got worse than what it had been, and I figured that's a good sign. After sleeping about 10 hours or more (remember: I'm sick. Sleep is good.), my cough isn't as bad, my throat is great, but my nose is extremely congested....All good signs.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: readerMom on November 03, 2009, 08:30:32 PM
It's cold enough for a furnace to be on, but we don't have one. I hate building a fire every day. My husband does it most days but I hate being cold every morning.
Dreaming of the day we have the money to put a real furnace in.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on November 03, 2009, 09:20:45 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaagyo. I was this close.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on November 03, 2009, 09:37:18 PM
Elaborate Sort....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on November 04, 2009, 04:57:21 AM
More sickness-related griping: I can't sing. Again.

Not. Happy.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 04, 2009, 05:27:37 AM
It's cold enough for a furnace to be on, but we don't have one. I hate building a fire every day. My husband does it most days but I hate being cold every morning.
Dreaming of the day we have the money to put a real furnace in.

Wow.  That's sad.  At least you have a fireplace that burns wood!  Those are against the building code where I live.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on November 04, 2009, 05:40:32 AM
Grumpiness: this lot complains alot :P (& that WASN'T hypocrisy!)

If i use my fire place more than 5 times a year it's proof AGAINST global warming.... Wood goes into smokers where i live ain't that right Inquisitor?

P.S. Pork is the sacred meet of the south
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on November 04, 2009, 07:03:19 AM
Wood is a renewable energy source. Burning it is entirely carbon-nuetral, since its carbon came from the atmosphere in the first place. Now, if only it grew fast enough for our needs.

(I know you were referring to the fact that Texas appears to be heated by the fires of hell.)

Me? I'm grumpy because I can't seem to get my sleep schedule back on track. Whenever I try, I get hit by a round of insomnia, and suddenly it's 4AM to 12PM all over again.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on November 04, 2009, 07:32:12 PM
Hell? Where did you get that idea? Last time i had to ask Satan himself for a jacket!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on November 05, 2009, 04:46:09 AM
Grumpy: Hubby got arrested for "bad tags" on his car.  Which is ridiculous, as they are perfectly legal.  Enter the urgent need to pay back bail and get the car out of impound, and we are veritably up the financial creek with no paddle.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on November 07, 2009, 03:03:08 AM
Yikes. That's awful. Hope it works out for you guys somehow :/

Grumpy: I appear to have lost all of the notes I'd had for my novel.

=(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on November 07, 2009, 04:56:29 AM
Hopefull it will.  I don't imagine it will be any fun at all, but, well... you do what you have to. :-\

That sucks about your notes, though.. unscheduled computer crash?  Hope you can reboot and recover...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on November 07, 2009, 05:03:51 AM
Ugh. Good luck :/

No. The notes weren't on the computer at all. I literally misplaced my paper copy. Presumably somewhere on campus, which means I won't be getting them back.

I don't think there was anything written down that I don't remember (I don't think so) but it's irksome nonetheless.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 22, 2009, 07:41:58 AM
Friday coming home for lunch I forgot that the city apparently decided to make the street I was driving on a school zone during lunch period (for reasons I still don't understand). Hence, I was going 35, and the speed limit was 20, and I got pulled over and given a $140 ticket. So not only can I no longer claim to have never been given a ticket, I have to come up with $140 as well (my parents are making me pay the ticket, which, granted, I deserve, since it's kind of my own fault. Wow, that's a lot of commas).
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on November 22, 2009, 05:27:02 PM
You mean your parents paid for someone elses ticket (like your siblings) or you expected them to pay yours? Either way seems, from my perspective, odd.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 23, 2009, 02:03:54 AM
Yes, my parents have paid my siblings' tickets before, which is why I'm just a tad bitter.

And no, I didn't expect them to pay mine, but it would most certainly be nice to not have to spend most of my paycheck on a ticket.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on November 23, 2009, 03:55:16 AM
I've recieved only one ticket and it was for running a red light... 80 bucks
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on November 23, 2009, 05:52:19 PM
Didn't get paid on Friday when I should've. I'm sure it'll get sorted out, but still. Argh.

Edit: It appears to be all straightened out now. Woo.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on December 06, 2009, 09:01:27 AM
Pretty much everything that could possibly go wrong thus far in the weekend has. Well, that's not true, I suppose it could be a lot worse. But on Thursday I had this lovely image that my weekend would be leisurely, and without carepackages to deal with. I was very wrong.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on December 07, 2009, 05:45:31 PM
I had a middle aged guy almost run me over and when i yelled at him he got out and preceded to threaten me. My response went something like this, "My father is a well respected lawyer so if you touch me you better tell your wife bye, because you will become well acquainted with a cell." he called me a pussy and got into his truck.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on December 08, 2009, 05:57:42 AM
I had a middle aged guy almost run me over and when i yelled at him he got out and preceded to threaten me. My response went something like this, "My father is a well respected lawyer so if you touch me you better tell your wife bye, because you will become well acquainted with a cell." he called me a pussy and got into his truck.

This is why it's good to know HEMA.  Just in case his father is a well respected lawyer, too.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on December 09, 2009, 01:37:22 AM
Ugh. Obviously I'm going to have to lock myself in my bedroom if I want to get anything done.

Why don't I live by myself, again?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on December 09, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
b/c then you have to buy your own eggnog and peppermint bark!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on December 15, 2009, 02:42:03 AM
Kaz: Haha. True enough.

Grumpy: I have a final exam tomorrow morning and I can't concentrate worth anything. This is A Bad Thing.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on December 15, 2009, 04:09:49 AM
Glad I made someone smile :D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on December 19, 2009, 06:55:56 AM
Yes, yes you did. :)

Good grief. Reading Excuses I love you all but in the name of all that's holy these critiques take me a long time.

And my inbox is scaring me. It says I still have 21 more left to do.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on December 21, 2009, 11:14:05 AM

I am SO sick of looking at wiki source code I could puke!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on December 21, 2009, 07:13:28 PM
About a year ago, my sisters and I bought 3 books together at B&N. We decided then which book was whose. However, since then, they've kept all three in their room (I haven't had room in my room for any more books). I just found out that both of them are convinced that the book that is supposed to be mine is theirs.

 I figure they're both convinced of this because it's the best of the three. And they want it, which I can't blame them for, yet since it's mine and I remember the conversation we had dividing the books (stalker-good memory, remember?), I don't want to lose this book....But I am probably going to lose the battle for it. Argh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on December 23, 2009, 09:53:19 PM
Defining a single term should not be this difficult.

*gnashes teeth*
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on December 28, 2009, 10:41:05 PM

I've been depressed lately. 

I have been avoiding everything except my actual job pretty much.

Don't worry though if you know what I'm now referring to, I'll get back to it soon enough.  Sorry for the delay guys.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on December 29, 2009, 01:22:21 AM
Depression sucks i hate feeling empty...(atleast that's what I gennerally feel when depressed and a shrink said that is one form it's not just raw sorrow but can be a feeling of lost though i feel fear and sadness but they feel distant)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on December 29, 2009, 05:11:58 AM

It's along the lines of feeling distant, detached, and apathetic.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on December 29, 2009, 05:40:57 AM
Which utterly bites!!! I would rather be heart-broken and kicked in the kidney...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on December 29, 2009, 05:47:47 AM

You and me both.

It'll go away after a few weeks though.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on December 29, 2009, 06:19:18 AM
What are you clinically depressed or manic depressive/ bipolar? From my limited understanding (from being treated for clinical depression for 6 years only to find out i was never ill, and having atleast 1 bipolar person every generation on my mother's side) full blown depression that last that long is not possible withouut some chemical inbalance. What the hell is wrong?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on December 29, 2009, 08:05:42 AM

Doc says I'm manic depressive, but the pills just make it worse, so I don't take them.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on December 29, 2009, 01:54:29 PM

I've been depressed lately. 

I have been avoiding everything except my actual job pretty much.

Don't worry though if you know what I'm now referring to, I'll get back to it soon enough.  Sorry for the delay guys.


That's never good. Hope you don't do anything too drastic!

I personally believe in being an optimist. Even when things look bad, they can always be worse.

Just remember, friends and family care about you, and if you let them know you're down, they'll try to cheer you up!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 29, 2009, 08:03:47 PM
Hey miyabi, no worries guy. I'm getting deployed on my daughters second birthday. Not even allowed to see her. Fun stuff!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on December 29, 2009, 09:16:53 PM

@Monsta - Ouch.  That's dumb.  I sorry.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 30, 2009, 04:44:57 PM
no worries. it is what it is. thanks though
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on January 01, 2010, 03:26:57 AM
Yeah, that's tough. :(

Grumpy: It's snowing. Why does it have to be snowing?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 01, 2010, 07:33:06 AM
Grumpiness: It never snows in Dallas and the one time we have snow on Christmas Eve I'm out of town (about 1.5 hours south) and we get less than 5 minutes of non-sticking snow!!! So i miss all the fun!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on January 01, 2010, 08:50:40 AM
Silk: You live in Canada. Just, you know, FYI.

We've got old crusty snow here in Colorado, but we could sure use a fresh dusting. <3 snow.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on January 04, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
All throughout December, when I didn't have to drive, it didn't snow. For Christmas: no snow.

First day back at university--and I commute to another city for school--and it's a freaking snowstorm.

I shudder to think what the roads will look like at 5pm when I can actually go home.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on January 04, 2010, 10:50:50 PM

No promotion for Chris. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on January 04, 2010, 10:52:52 PM

No promotion for Chris. :(


:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 05, 2010, 03:55:46 PM
 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( b/c the other smileys were lonely.....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on January 06, 2010, 08:09:58 AM
Last night, I drove home in a snowstorm.

Today, the weather was gorgeous, so my car broke down on the highway.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 06, 2010, 10:49:48 PM
Well shouldn't that be a good thing... I mean it didn't break down in a blizzard... just after one. :-\
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on January 07, 2010, 04:54:45 AM
It's good that it didn't break down in a blizzard, but it still means I'm without a vehicle. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on January 07, 2010, 08:11:57 PM

I go to shift my car(when it is off, whether the key is in or not), and it tries to turn on . . . . o.e

EDIT:  How it doesn't even turn on at all.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on January 08, 2010, 06:44:32 AM
I love my job, but the hours interfere with a lot of other things (like getting together with people), and particularly with prime martial arts time...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 08, 2010, 06:19:45 PM
Well atleast you enjoy work, plenty of people don't.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on January 08, 2010, 07:01:10 PM
Slept through my alarm and my first two classes this morning. *grumble* Mornings...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: readerMom on January 09, 2010, 12:09:09 AM
Did that yesterday, but when I sleep in, I have to rush my kids to school.  Of course I'm not the one that gets the dirty looks from the teachers. ;D
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on January 09, 2010, 12:49:41 AM
Well atleast you enjoy work, plenty of people don't.

I would not have the work I have now had I not spent a long period of time unemployed.  Perhaps if everyone else moved to cities where the economy is shot they too would come up with creative ways of finding employment which are somewhat enjoyable.

That said, it's not like I'm walking in oodles of money right now.  Most professionals would consider my salary woefully inadequate, though the pay isn't too bad for the amount of time I work.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 09, 2010, 04:00:02 AM
I'm just ready to do something other than minimum wage crap!!!! I always get a job offer if I get an interview... but the only interviews i get are for McDonald's, Kroger, ect. (I work at Brookstone right now and i have the highest numbers in the store it's alright but the pay sucks). Atleast my bills are limited to toiletries and car insurance :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on January 09, 2010, 04:38:08 AM

Even though I got my car fixed, the power cord for my laptop not doesn't work. D:

/me cries.

I need to go see about buying a new one, sadly they are usually very expensive.
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Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on January 11, 2010, 09:53:17 AM
I lost my phone. I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in my house, but as it is on vibrate and the vibrate is not very loud, I cannot find it. It is more than slightly irritating.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 11, 2010, 10:49:10 PM
So I decided to wear a purple dress shirt today w/ an awesome brown/ green/ yellow/ purple color tie and I had this awesome line to introduce myself to some cute girl in my 1st class, "Hey I'm Daniel McGary (awesome name i know) and I'm reclaiming purple for the straight guy." and b/c it is so beastly/ humorous it would have been a great line to eventually work out to go get coffee ect. I get everywhere early and was like the 5th person out of 130 to show up and there weren't any cute girls there yet and none decided to sit next to me :(. i knew ppl in my other classes so i didn't get to use it at all. :'(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 12, 2010, 01:07:07 AM
People who would rather feign "victimization" than accept a suggestion for what it was. Some moron is going around my neighborhood trying to sell points (which is more or less a donation) or subscriptions, and he tells me it keeps him out of gangs ect. (which looking back on it he was most likely from the suburbs b/c there are wealthier closer suburbs to Dallas than where i live) I suggest he change his sales pitch because it isn't relatable to a rosy cheek suburban person like the people he was asking to donate. He takes this as a personal insult when i was very polite and good intentioned. It makes me wonder why I try.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on January 12, 2010, 01:21:25 PM
Just got a parking ticket I don't deserve.

At BYU, you're not allowed to park in student lots between 1-5AM, a necessary precaution against students storing their cars in the lots which I wholeheartedly support. However, the faculty lots have no such restriction, and anyone can park in them at night.

Where I work there is a student lot adjacent to a faculty lot. I was working late, and I parked in the faculty lot. I got ticketed for ignoring the 1-5 rule. Sigh. I am SO appealing this.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on January 14, 2010, 04:46:35 AM
Yesterday, at the end of practice, I took a good hit to the side of my right thumb.  It swelled up nicely and went numb.

Tonight the swelling has mostly reduced, but it's now a light shade of blue, and is very sensitive (sore) to the touch, and I can't apply pressure with it.  I suppose I should be grateful I didn't break it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on January 14, 2010, 07:41:29 AM
Ouch!

Rejection letter today. Woo.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on January 15, 2010, 07:52:50 PM
I'm ticked off at apps in facebook that are sending bogus invites. Specifically, School of Wizardry and World War. I've got them both blocked but they keep sending invites from apps with bogus IDs that are impossible to block. I've reported this abuse several times, with no sign that anything is being done.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on January 15, 2010, 09:23:16 PM
I, solely, have just been give the project to rewrite our software to encompass a client-server architecture. That is, i have to rewrite thousands upon thousands of lines of code to work with MS SQL, as opposed to its native data access.

This will take hundreds, if not potentially thousands of man-hours D:

It's basically a rewriting from the ground up.  :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 15, 2010, 10:25:27 PM
That's why being a contractor is cool, they have to pay you more to give you crap jobs! :)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on January 15, 2010, 10:39:03 PM
That's why being a contractor is cool, they have to pay you more to give you crap jobs! :)

Yeah, i wish. Unfortunately the "crap jobs" here become "eerongal jobs" generally.  :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on January 17, 2010, 04:55:26 AM
Application deadlines everywhere!

Grad schools: UVic by Jan 29th, UBC by Jan 31st, UofC by February 1st.

Application deadline for hopeful Komasket performers: also February 1st.

Argh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on January 17, 2010, 09:11:12 PM
Got back home from school in Dec. Had a job lined up, to bring in money to pay for my last two semesters of school, which I had planned to finish this coming December. My plans have been screwed up because of an employee my boss re-hired. The girl asked for a month's vacation, and then never returned and didn't give any warning for her lack of return. She didn't come back for six months, but since she's a good friend to the boss and she got fired from the job she got when she returned, my boss gave her the chance to make some money in the interim, until she gets a new job.

The problem is, when the girl is making over 300 in two weeks at a minimum wage job, that's hardly motivation to find a new job. So all the hours I should have had when I got back from school are going to a girl who should be temporary, but is making no effort to be temporary, and the boss is extremely unlikely to fire her. Oh, and she uses the work phone to make personal calls that last over an hour. But the boss doesn't care about that, because she spends hours on the clock on her numerous smoking breaks....

Needless to say, I'm looking for a new job. Which is hard, considering the economy and school, and the lack of skills that I have, since I really don't want to stay in the fast food industry. Yet, I can't stay working here. And because I won't get hired somewhere if I'm leaving in April for school, I have to defer a semester, which sets my grad date back another year. Ugh.

Sure, I'll be making money, but still. I just want to be done with school.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on January 17, 2010, 09:20:36 PM
Have you considered trying to get a job on campus?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on January 18, 2010, 09:57:39 PM
Heh. That would be a fine idea, if I went to a different school. The only way to get a job on campus is to have connections, and know about the job before it even comes available. I attempted it a couple semesters ago and failed miserably....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on January 22, 2010, 07:25:35 AM
That's unfortunate. :/

I feel very lucky now about my campus job, even if I won't be getting any hours until February...

Segue into grumpiness.

I have no idea how I'm going to pay the bills for the next few weeks. Between tuition, gas and grad school applications, and the fact that, uh, I don't get any hours at teh writing center until February... It's going to be. Um. Tight.

Unrelated grumpiness: This headache has been following me around since Monday morning. I would rather like it to go away now.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on February 21, 2010, 01:46:10 AM
Since the last post here was almost a month ago, does that mean I'm allowed to double post?

Becaues I would just like to state, for the record, that this essay is turning out to be a structural mess. And I'm waffling on how to fix it.

Grrr.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on February 21, 2010, 02:13:45 AM

Waffling?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on February 21, 2010, 02:22:02 AM
Yes. I'm indecisive. Can't decide the best way to do it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on February 21, 2010, 05:24:29 AM

I've never heard the word "waffling" used before. ha ha.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on February 21, 2010, 11:05:28 PM

I write a paper for PRO102, have three people one being an English major read over it and critique it.  I rewrite it three times and my stupid PRO102 teacher gives me a D on it! 

EDIT::  This was the first time I have EVER gotten something less than an A on a paper.  Well once I got an F but after talking to three other teachers and talking with the principal the teacher was forced to change it to an A.

Then I spend an hour maybe two on a paper that's twice as long.  Write it, then take one read through/correcting of it and turn it in to my ENG101 teacher and get an A. . . . . I think my PRO102 teacher just didn't like my topic or something.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shivertongue on February 22, 2010, 05:42:40 AM
I got an F on an opinion paper once. I didn't know you could grade someone's opinion like that. Although perhaps my chosen opinion of "I Don't Care" wasn't valid enough for the teacher...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on February 22, 2010, 05:53:29 AM

My teacher had flat said "If you write that this is your opinion you will get an 'A', what you wrote isn't right."
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on February 22, 2010, 12:32:36 PM
I got an F on an opinion paper once. I didn't know you could grade someone's opinion like that. Although perhaps my chosen opinion of "I Don't Care" wasn't valid enough for the teacher...

Also, "I don't care" is not a valid topic for a scholarship essay XD.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shivertongue on February 22, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
I got an F on an opinion paper once. I didn't know you could grade someone's opinion like that. Although perhaps my chosen opinion of "I Don't Care" wasn't valid enough for the teacher...

Also, "I don't care" is not a valid topic for a scholarship essay XD.

Neither are "I Don't Have a Clue", "Don't Ask Me", and "I Still Don't Care". However, "People Are Stupid" got me a quarter-tuition scholarship...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on February 22, 2010, 03:20:06 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on February 22, 2010, 08:28:18 PM

However, "People Are Stupid" got me a quarter-tuition scholarship...

Of course. The academic elite LOVE it when other academics talk about how stupid non-academics are.

...

Ahem.

I am, of course, not jaded in the slightest.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shivertongue on February 22, 2010, 08:30:16 PM

However, "People Are Stupid" got me a quarter-tuition scholarship...

Of course. The academic elite LOVE it when other academics talk about how stupid non-academics are.

...

Ahem.

I am, of course, not jaded in the slightest.

Actually, I was calling everyone stupid in that essay. XD
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on February 25, 2010, 07:34:42 PM
Mid-terms sucked!!!!

Edit: and i think i screwed my hard-drive I'm at the library on campus right now!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on March 03, 2010, 12:51:06 AM
Last night at a church activity, we played Human Foosball. You know, like the table game foosball with the soccer players that you control on the bars and such? Yeah, a life-size version, kind of. Anyway, the two people on either side of me kept taking every single ball that came my way that was even remotely possible for them to take.

Now, this was frustrating because it made me feel useless to the team, however, I can deal with uselessness. What I cannot deal with is when the ball comes up and starts coming down practically directly over my head, making for a perfect head-butting shot, and when I go to do just that, I find that the guy next to me had the same idea.

I have black eye now. Only, it's a black eye where the bruise is only on the eyelid, and a little bit above it, making my eyelid droop. And it hurts like heck. Especially when I sneeze. And what makes it worse is that the guy didn't even apologize. He just pretty much went on playing and then looked over, smiling, and said 'Is that where I hit you?' pointing to my head....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on March 05, 2010, 09:07:43 AM
Shivertongue: The academics won't know that. Wilful ignorance is a powerful force.

This assignment, it hurts us, precious. It BURNS us.

We hates it. We hates it. We hates it forever.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Nessa on March 10, 2010, 01:29:47 AM
While I'm excited to be moving into a new fancy schmancy house in two weeks, our current house STILL hasn't sold, which means we need to bump the price to even lower than what we bought it for 4 years ago in order to get it sold. GRRRR.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shivertongue on March 10, 2010, 02:00:21 AM
This assignment, it hurts us, precious. It BURNS us.

We hates it. We hates it. We hates it forever.

Speaking of... this assignment is slowly but surely wearing away at whatever scraps of soul I have left... and because of it, I know more about Twilight than I ever wanted to....

*twitches*

Speaking of, I'm gonna call Robert Pattinson (just threw up a little) 'Bob' from now on...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on March 10, 2010, 02:16:35 AM
Disappeared for a month+ again. Note that I didn't have internet until about two weeks ago, but still. I miss the forums. Also, 14 pages of unread topics when I came back.

I haven't unpacked all of my crap yet. My brother is living with me and looks down on me as much as (if not more than) the rest of my family. Ah well, hopefully I'll be out of state next semester.

Doctor's appointment Friday, dentist appointment Monday. :(

OTOH, I had a breakthrough on the novel (thanks in part to Chaos Theories II), so there's something. Also, Disneyland on Saturday!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on March 10, 2010, 04:25:16 PM
OTOH, I had a breakthrough on the novel (thanks in part to Chaos Theories II), so there's something.

My rambling is helping people! Yay!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on March 11, 2010, 12:10:42 AM
Except no Disneyland. :|
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on March 11, 2010, 06:54:35 PM
I have to wright a humanities paper over spring break next week  :'(!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on March 16, 2010, 06:30:43 PM
How is it that courtesy cuts deeper than any insult?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on March 19, 2010, 01:30:08 AM
I have to wright a humanities paper over spring break next week  :'(!

Are you apprenticed to a paperwright?

Hah. Poor schmuck. BYU doesn't even do spring break. I'm grumpy that other people get a week off in March and I don't.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on March 19, 2010, 07:25:35 AM
I'm grumpy because someone's doing something to my e-mail account. But I don't know exactly what or how to stop it. They keep spamming my contacts with e-mails but there's no trace of it in my sent messages, which I have set to save every message that is sent from my e-mail. I doubt changing my password will change anything, since I'm about 99% sure that they don't have the password. Unless they really did hack it, and didn't try to phish for it....I hope I don't have to delete my account. That would sad. I've had it since I was in 7th grade....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on March 19, 2010, 07:54:05 AM
You probably have a virus that makes your computer part of a botnet. They very well may have your password, since many viruses log your keystrokes in order to collect passwords. Once they have your password and your computer as a member of their zombie botnet, they can use it to send spam from your email address (and others as well). These messages would never show up in your sent mails because they aren't using your client to send them - the virus sends them directly.

Change your password, disinfect your computer, and it should stop.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: sortitus on March 19, 2010, 04:39:58 PM
But change the order of those steps. Disinfect, then change the password. :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on March 19, 2010, 05:06:05 PM
Yeah, Ryos likely hit the nail on the head. I say that with like 90% certainty, as thats typical of the symptoms your report.

As an aside to Ryos' instructions, im going to add in to fully patch up your OS and virus scanner, and do a complete system scan.

Out of curiousity, what virus scanner are you currently using?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on March 19, 2010, 05:39:38 PM
Thanks, guys. Hopefully this will fix the problem.

As for my virus scanner, it's Kaspersky. About a week ago, though, it wasn't working (kept saying the blacklist was corrupted) and that's actually around the time when this thing with my e-mail started. I haven't run a full scan with it since it went down. I'm doing so now, and it should catch anything that's there. If not, I guess I'll just have to have my dad clean my computer....again.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on March 19, 2010, 05:52:26 PM
Thanks, guys. Hopefully this will fix the problem.

As for my virus scanner, it's Kaspersky. About a week ago, though, it wasn't working (kept saying the blacklist was corrupted) and that's actually around the time when this thing with my e-mail started. I haven't run a full scan with it since it went down. I'm doing so now, and it should catch anything that's there. If not, I guess I'll just have to have my dad clean my computer....again.

If you're having problems or generally unhappy with Kaspersky, i recommend using either Avira's AntiVir (http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php) (not to be confused with "Extra AntiVir" which is actually spyware), AVG (http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage), or Microsoft Security essentials (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/).

All of these in my experience offer superb virus protection for free (note that anti-vir has an ad popup for their commercial software everytime it updates itself, that's normal for it. But other than that, it's a very good program.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on March 19, 2010, 06:24:42 PM
Oh, I'm perfectly happy with Kaspersky (I feel almost the same way about it as my sister does, and she refers to it as her best friend... ::)). My dad knew exactly what was wrong with it when I'd called him about it. I just wish I'd had him look at it sooner, because it took 3 days and it was while Kaspersky was down that the virus sent the first round of e-mails. I'm sure it'll catch whatever's on here. It's already found 3 adware, a virus, and a trojan, and it says it's still got about an hour left of the scan....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on March 23, 2010, 12:27:43 AM
Literally two days after I buy my Pre, Palm releases their financials and now everyone thinks they're about to go belly up. Now I'm wondering if I should take my phone back. I don't want to because I like it a lot, but...gah. Stupid world.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on March 23, 2010, 08:10:28 AM

Keep your phone.  Worst case scenario it just doesn't get fixed when broken . . . or ever get more apps. xD
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on March 23, 2010, 12:49:04 PM

Keep your phone.  Worst case scenario it just doesn't get fixed when broken . . . or ever get more apps. xD


Well, on the bright side there would probably be more apps, at least for a bit. There's a very thriving homebrew section that has a few thousand more apps than the official catalog. Also, palm endorses it.

Another also: Most likely, if palm DOES go belly up, they'll get acquired. Their patent portfolio alone would be tasty for any phone manufacturer (OS or hardware), but that doesnt say what would happen with webOS phones :P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on April 09, 2010, 10:53:06 AM

My phone has entered the white screen of death.  D:  This means iPhone no more working.  Found online it could be a loose cable, sadly, cable is plugged in tightly. :(

I don't want to spend a fortune on a new phone.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on April 18, 2010, 10:52:38 PM
Found a link to an interesting-looking anthology (http://www.mutationpress.com/index.html) (via the blog of an author who's made a sale to it, so one assumes that they're legit, despite the best efforts of the website to convince me otherwise). Thought I have something that might fit, then noticed that the submission guidelines describe the editor's "preferred length" as between 2000-6000 words. He says he'll consider fiction not within that limit, but if my piece is nearly twice the preferred length (11k) should I even bother? ::)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 19, 2010, 07:32:30 PM
Allergies......not too mention i heard Dallas is the 2nd worst area in the nation for them bahhhh!!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on April 19, 2010, 07:53:44 PM
Allergies......not too mention i heard Dallas is the 2nd worst area in the nation for them bahhhh!!!!

According to the asthma and allergy's 2010 list (http://www.aafa.org/pdfs/2010_AC_FinalPublicList.pdf), Dallas is number 80.

The only reason i bothered checking into it, was because i read a local news story a few days or so ago talking about how st. louis (where i live) slipped from number 1 from last year to number 2. I was hoping we would reign supreme again, but alas, we have fallen :(

(note: i don't have allergies, so my wanting this score to be high is a completely superficial ranking, and i'm sure if i had allergies, i would likely feel the opposite.)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 20, 2010, 06:34:00 PM
Thanks Eerongal I was basing mine on hear say....look at my post and you will realize i didn't speak with authority. And i use to be on allergy shots, so i wish the pollen count was low, but according to the Fox meteorologist (never reliable i know) last winter was cold enough to make it higher than normal.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on April 20, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
Thanks Eerongal I was basing mine on hear say....look at my post and you will realize i didn't speak with authority. And i use to be on allergy shots, so i wish the pollen count was low, but according to the Fox meteorologist (never reliable i know) last winter was cold enough to make it higher than normal.

Yeah, that's what i assumed you got yours from, but i was still HOPING it was true so we could still be number 1 :P

Also: to be fair, number 80 is really high on the list as well, considering HOW many cities there are in the US...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on April 20, 2010, 11:25:09 PM
I find the cure for allergies is to surround yourself with a better class of pollen.

Elite, academic pollen is quite superior.  Chaparrell works for me.

:P
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on May 09, 2010, 08:57:04 AM
Duly noted. :P

Nosebleeds suck. The end.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on July 16, 2010, 06:22:48 AM
I work at a food place, and occasionally I am the delivery driver. Tonight, I arrived at work and my boss told me we had two timed deliveries. One for 6:30, one for 10:30. We normally close shop at 10, but oh well. Each delivery is $130, so I can understand staying open a little later. He tells me I'll get $15 in tips for each one, because that's what he was told.

For the first, I got $5. For the later one, I arrived slightly early, and was made to wait 20 minutes. And got no tip....So I went in tonight thinking I'd walk out with at least $30 in tips, and I made $14--calculating in 4 non-related deliveries. Some nights, I hate my job.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on July 17, 2010, 12:44:14 AM
I hate businesses that are so stingy that employees depend on tips, a grotesque form of bribery.  Either pay employees a decent wage and do away with tipping or just hire them as commission only, straight 10% off the ticket.  *shudder* I'd hate to eat at the Radio-Shack equivalent of a restaurant.  Imagine having the waiter trying to argue you out of your favorite Veau Boef in favor of the (more expensive) Filet Mignon, or lobster. 
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on July 17, 2010, 01:32:52 AM

On a related note: I lost my job today. :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Renoard on July 18, 2010, 01:56:34 AM
Sorry to hear that Cris. Was it a layoff or were they angry with you for something?
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on July 18, 2010, 05:26:31 AM

It was like they had to get rid of someone and I was the only male. xD

It's OK though I already have another job.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on July 20, 2010, 06:27:12 PM
I have to find an apartment and a full time job b/c i have a month to move out due to "Frequent back-talking".
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Comatose on July 24, 2010, 05:34:08 AM
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Nosebleeds suck. The end

Agree.  I used to get them every other day.  Literally.  For a while it was at LEAST once a week.  Now I'm on a several months nosebleed free!  I think it helps that this summer saskatchewan decided to be humid and tropical instead of pushing summer back until september like it did last yeaer.

Is it normal  for it to rain every day for short periods of time on and off on the prairie?  I like rain, but...  It's kind of freaking me out.  Like we're gonna turn back into an inland sea or something.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on July 24, 2010, 07:21:02 AM
Oh hey, I didn't know you were a fellow Canadian. Cool! (I live in BC.)

Sounds like we have the exact same problem--heck, I remember a couple of weeks during one summer where I was having SEVERAL (very minor ones) a day. Usually it's very, very dry here in the summers and so I spent a disproportianate amount of time, err, how to put this delicately, gushing. >>;  It's been raining an awful lot this summer, though, so I haven't had a nosebleed since... well... probably when I posted that complaint. :P

Chris: So not only did they lay you off, they're practicing gender discrimination? :/
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on July 24, 2010, 12:41:51 PM

Yeah, but in Idaho it's impossible to prove because we are a "right-to-work" state.  Therefore they can fire you just because they felt like firing someone.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on July 24, 2010, 02:51:06 PM
Alternatively, I wish they would fire me from my new job. You'd think that being a night auditor at a hotel would be awesome. After all, that's what Brandon did to get published.

Less enthralling is the endless laundry to fold. Forever. And ever.

I think I'm going to try and withdraw some money from college savings, simply so I don't have to work this semester. Sigh.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on July 24, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
I highly doubt Brandon was folding laundry. However, it does seem like an efficient use of a night auditor's time.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Chaos on July 24, 2010, 11:40:57 PM
I highly doubt Brandon was folding laundry. However, it does seem like an efficient use of a night auditor's time.

I'll need to ask him the next time I meet him :P Because if I could spend that time folding laundry (all of it) on writing, I would be so much happier. But, there's so much laundry to fold--it has to be done, and it's next to impossible to complete--it's stressful. Instead of getting cool ideas, my brain just turns off.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 03, 2010, 04:46:09 PM
I'm grumpy because I have a sharp pain in my upper back when I take a deep breath. This wouldn't be a problem if I didn't have to take many deep breaths, but for some reason, it feels like I'm not getting enough air. So I'm yawning. A lot. And you know that feeling you get when you yawn that it's sufficed the air intake? Yeah, that doesn't happen most of the time I yawn. It still feels lacking....

I've attempted to live with it for the last two weeks. Over two weeks, actually. I can't remember exactly when it started...Anyway. I'm done with that. Now for a doctor.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: ryos on August 06, 2010, 04:46:17 AM
I worked in a laundry once. We had these awesome folding machines: feed the clothes to a conveyor belt, and they went through a pneumatically-driven process and plopped out the other end folded. Worked on towels and shirts, but we had to fold the shorts by hand.

I'm grumpy because I need to find a loan, and I don't qualify for federal aid anymore due to too many credits. I AM trying to graduate, promise...
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on August 23, 2010, 10:41:45 PM
I've just found out that I'm double-booked... For the first day of class. How typical. ::)

Hopefully that's not indicative of how this whole degree is going to go.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shivertongue on August 26, 2010, 07:24:43 AM
Spambot got into my Facebook, and sent everyone on my friends list that was currently online an IM that linked to a quiz of some kind.

The first recipient? Howard Tayler. x_x 

Stupid spambot.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Nessa on August 26, 2010, 03:07:04 PM
Yeah, I got my hotmail hacked last week, too, sending out a link to viagra adds. Sigh. These guys suck.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on August 27, 2010, 01:26:50 PM

It feels like everything is just falling apart.  Don't know what's going on.  I feel like I'm walking through a life that doesn't belong to me, observing as things pass by slowly and not in any way the way I feel they should.  No matter how much I scream or push no one hears me or feels me.  The walls of destiny are too hard to push aside and change.  I just wish I could find a weak spot I could push through to find a new path.  I need a way out.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: little wilson on August 28, 2010, 06:48:14 AM
Spambot got into my Facebook, and sent everyone on my friends list that was currently online an IM that linked to a quiz of some kind.

Same thing happened to my brother this last week.

And Chris, I empathize. In a way. A few unexpected things have happened recently to me that I really would rather had never happened, but they were out of my control. And it sucks. But oh well. I'm used to this kind of emotional drain. What I'm not used to is this lack of caring what happens next that just started.

Anyway. More relatively on-topic. Grumpiness--I drove delivery tonight and made 34 bucks in tips, along with 10 for gas money. Unfortunately, I stuck all the tips/gas money back into the money bag with all the rest of the money, which was then dropped into the safe in my boss' office. And because my boss is a stingy little (*insert a word I'll not say because I really should be curbing my swearing habit*), there is less than a 1% chance I'll get it back. And with this idiocy, my chances of attending the WoK release party have been axed. Yeah, I'm more than a little peeved right now.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Shivertongue on September 02, 2010, 10:28:50 AM
You know what really sucks? Waiting months for a book to come out, the first book in what promises to be an amazing new series by a favourite author... and then going to the bookstore and discovering the money you thought was in your account is no longer there.

It's even worse when you look into your account and discover several transactions that you did not make. Then you call your bank, and they give you the information on the recipients of these transactions, and you call them to find out what's going on and why they're charging you money. And then you discover that they're billing support services for adult websites. And while it's great that they refund your money (which will take about a week), you're now stuck with the knowledge that someone out there has your card information, and unless you can get it fixed soon, you're SOL and JWF.

And thus you have to wait until your next paycheck, which won't be for another week, in order to buy anything, let alone this book. So you have to ignore all the discussion and theorizing going around, because spoilers make the angry voices cry out for the blood of the innocents...

Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on September 23, 2010, 08:07:20 AM
Well if that's not the perfect end to an 18-hour day I don't know what is. I go to bed and the bloody CEILING falls on me. No, really.

Yes, I do mean that literally.

...okay, fine. It was only one ceiling tile ("only") and it didn't land directly on me--it brushed me on the way down. It did, however, hit the nightstand next to me and knock over my water glass and half the stuff I had on there. (Thankfully not the one thing which would have really been breakable.)

It also flooded dirty water all over my bed and my floors (which I had to clean, since they're lamanate, and leaving huge puddles of water on them would ruin them). And got water all over the papers that I was keeping on the bottom shelf of said nightstand.

You can't make stuff like this up.

I am NOT IMPRESSED.

Edit: For those who require pictoral proof of the Assault of the Ceiling Tile: http://melody.byethost8.com/?p=313
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 27, 2010, 11:41:22 PM
I'm getting really ticked about health insurance. When Lizbeth was born, she had a heart murmur from three very small holes in her heart. The doctors said not to worry about it, that there was no possible treatment, and that the holes would most likely go away on their own as she grew. Well, when we moved to Utah and applied for health insurance, she was denied by two companies. However, we managed to get her covered under Utah's CHIP program because we didn't make too much money to qualify.

Then she had her 18-month checkup (a bit late), once we had her health insurance. And there was no heart murmur. Three different doctors since then have agreed. No heart murmur. So what the doctors told us in the first place was right; the issue cleared up on its own.

In January, I started working more hours and got a raise. With that, plus the money we make from freelancing for TOKYOPOP, we're close to the upper limit of eligibility for CHIP. So it would be best if we could get Lizbeth covered under our family plan. So we applied, and this time they didn't reject her. Here's what they offered us:

Our per-person deductible would increase from $1000 to $2500.
Our family deductible would increase from $2500 to $5000.
Our prescriptions deductible would increase from $500 to $1000 (I'm not sure if that is per person or per family).
The out-of-pocket maximum (beyond the deductible they still only cover 70%)--they didn't tell me how much it would increase, but I assume proportionally.
And our monthly premium would increase from $422 to $509.

So we'd be paying $6100 per year for health insurance that wouldn't actually help us unless we paid at least an extra $2500 and possibly another $5000. So we'd pay $11,000 before we see one cent of insurance claim help.

All because of something the doctors swore to us was not a problem and that we shouldn't worry about, and that is in fact completely gone.

Meanwhile, CHIP has to go through a renewal approval process every year. Except they didn't tell us when this was until it had already passed. But there was a one-month grace period we were still within. But then they didn't tell me everything they needed. I send them everything they ask for, and they send a letter in the mail two weeks later saying "Oh, we also need THIS, and now you're outside the grace period so you need to reapply." So I did, and two weeks later they sent a letter saying we were denied because we owe the CHIP program $40. (They couldn't tell me that last time??) That was on Thursday, and they're closed on Fridays. So I got up at 7 AM this morning to call them and they said we owed them $25, that we paid only $50 of our last $75 bill. (I know $25 is not $40 but apparently they don't...okay, that's not fair; the $40 probably includes a $15 late fee, but why they didn't mention that on the phone today...) I told them I have a receipt for $75 I paid in May. They looked some more in their computers and said one of two computer systems says we paid $50 and the other says we paid $75. And they will have to figure out what's up and then call me back. They said they'd probably call me back today. I'm still waiting.

Meanwhile I asked our SelectHealth broker if they would offer us a plan with the same deductible we currently have but with an even higher premium. He said no, they can't do that. And we have until October 17th to accept their current offer. My optimism that we can arrange everything with CHIP before then is not high, since they keep telling me (after two weeks) one more thing they need me to send them. (They did that when we applied last year too.)

And we had a bunch of bills come out of nowhere in the last couple of weeks that wiped out 75% of our checking account.

So I'm grumpy.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 29, 2010, 08:01:56 PM
Newest problem. I am hopping mad.

We got a letter a few days ago saying we owe $500+ in back property taxes for the mobile home in 2009. I checked my tax bill from 2008 and it says it's for the fiscal year July 1st 2008 to June 30th 2009. We left the state in May 2009 and the mobile home became the property of the bank. So I sent them a letter saying we had paid any tax we owed, and gave them canceled check numbers.

They called me on the phone just now and said that because I was in my house on January 1st, I still have to pay taxes for the fiscal year July 1st 2009 to June 30th 2010. That doesn't make a shred of sense to me. We cannot afford to pay a tax bill like this, especially on something we did not own for the fiscal year that applies.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Eerongal on September 29, 2010, 08:22:16 PM
I'm getting really ticked about health insurance...

*Snip*

...So I'm grumpy.
Newest problem. I am hopping mad...

*Snip*

...we did not own for the fiscal year that applies.

Man, that's lame.

I've always been of the opinion that dealing with insurance companies and the IRS are the worst situations to get into, because there's almost no chance of you getting anything that resembles being fair for you, and you're stuck between both of them at the same time.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 30, 2010, 01:48:32 PM
If you have a friend who is a tax attorney ask them....
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Pink Bunkadoo on September 30, 2010, 05:18:27 PM
because I was in my house on January 1st, I still have to pay taxes for the fiscal year July 1st 2009 to June 30th 2010.
When you bought the house, did the people who who were in it on Jan 1st pay the taxes for that year?  I'm assuming not.   >:(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: The Jade Knight on January 20, 2011, 01:00:28 AM
I was very excited to be able to order some nice HEMA-appropriate gloves (which I've been needing for months), and then I got an email today saying they were out of stock and had been backordered.  I'm praying they get them back in stock (the gloves appear to have been discontinued...)
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Sigyn on January 20, 2011, 05:34:15 PM
I have a cold, and the book I ordered has disappeared in transit.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on January 22, 2011, 08:37:56 PM
I have a cold!!!! I haven't been sick outside of sinus infections in three years!!!! DARN IT ALL!!!!
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on February 11, 2011, 03:55:04 AM


[rant]

*Takes a deep breath*

So I know this person who happens to have a friend who has Asperger's, one of the highest functioning forms of autism.  Today this person I know has gone on an all out tirade posting on people's pages, tagging people in notes, and posting on the Autism Speaks facebook page his thoughts, which can be summed up as:

Autism isn't a disease or illness, it's just the way people are.  We need to just chill and not look for a cure.  Looking for a cure would be taking away something from people that they want.

He only knows this one person with Asperger's, so I feel like he doesn't even come close to understanding Autism Spectrum Disorders, which really frustrates me.

I tried to explain to him how hard life can be for a lot of people suffering from autism and how badly it can affect their life, from social interaction, to having a job, to successfully completing school.  Despite the fact that I work with people who have Autism every day at work and he knows a single person with Asperger's he refuses to hear anything I say.

I am just so frustrated right now and I needed to vent.  Sorry yous guys had to be the ones to hear me out, but thanks for listening I guess.

[/rant]
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: dhalagirl on February 11, 2011, 04:02:39 AM
Hey, don't worry about it.  I have a friend that would agree with you 100%.  Her husband and son both have Asperger's.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Miyabi on February 20, 2011, 06:04:31 PM

Stupid spam bot posted 4 and a half pages of spam topics on the books board.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: dhalagirl on February 27, 2011, 05:42:38 AM
I hate working with stupid people!  My boss refuses to fire someone who has repeatedly proven that they don't have the mental capacity for such a demanding job.
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on April 20, 2011, 06:13:01 PM
Still mildy sick after 8 weeks of various viruses from Tracen Cape May :(
Title: Re: Grumpiness in New, Seasonal Flavours
Post by: Silk on June 30, 2011, 08:11:16 PM
Whatever authentication process that Twitter/Echofon for Firefox have just switched to is clearly not working, since it has refused to complete the process every single time I've tried (and it pesters me constantly as long as I stay logged in).