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General => Everything Else => Topic started by: Miyabi on March 26, 2009, 09:16:18 AM
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OK. So I mainly went into my major (Software Engineering) because everyone I know said that there is no way I'd get anywhere with creative writing / philosophy / performing arts / linguistics. Which are the things that I absolutely love. I haven't been able to sleep for the last month and every night I get to thinking about this.
I REALLY want to say to heck with SE and just finish off this semester and start applying for schools where I can start majoring in creative writing and minoring in either philosophy or linguistics. I also need to go to a college that is . . . well not so close to home. Family is a huge distraction for me because of all their petty drama.
Anyway. I just wanted to kind of vent and get that off my mind. Anyone know any good schools that fit my criteria? I was kind of thinking BYU - Provo, because I know people that go there, but then I'm not sure if you have to be Mormon or not. :\ In any case. Thanks for listening.
EDIT: I've also noted that I try to start a lot of projects that have to do with either my current major (but not school related, just me related) and the things I love to do and I always end up half way with everything and get all screwed up because I can't do the things I want and the stuff I'm supposed to do for school. . . there just isn't enough time in the day when they are completely different things.
EDIT AGAIN: Wow, in all of my emotional melt-down I totally forgot to make the main point I was trying with this and that is. I don't care if the chances of making it are slim. I never want to think "What if I had just made the decision I wanted instead of what someone else wanted."
PS: There really need to be a capital capital I . . . .anyone else ever have that feeling?
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That sucks that you hate your major. I majored in software engineering as well, but I love it. However, I don't like working the jobs, i've found. I really enjoy making things via programming, however, improving and maintaining someone else's software is....boring. Very boring.
The only real colleges I know anything about are around me, so Saint Louis university and Mizzou are the only ones I know of that people around here go to for creative arts (apart from lindenwood, which is hailed for PERFORMING arts around here).
Personally, I say go for what you like, and you'll be happy regardless :)
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Miyabi, I totally understand your situation.
When I started college (way back in 99) I had chosen Electrical Engineering as my major because it sounded interesting. (And it is). However, as I went through my classes over the years I found that I was enjoying my non EE classes MUCH more. Then after I had been in school for 6 years, I finally came to the conclusion that I hated my major and that if I had to design one more transistor, I would go nuts. I was 90% of the way through my major, but I also had no desire to go into programming (despite being fairly proficient), so I changed my major to GIS.
When I started college I had never heard of GIS (Geographic Information Science) not did my University even havea program for it until the year before I switched. I discovered it because I was subconsiously trying to avoid EE classes by taking classes that would help with research for my fantasy novel. I took all sorts of classes, from poetry to history to geography. I took a class titled Geomorphology (all about how the earth changes shape, form, appearance, vulcanism, tectonic movements, weathering, etc.) because I wanted a large seizmic event in my novel. This was an amazing class for me. I had never thought of earth sciences as a viable option before. I was an engineer at heart, liked numbers and the challenge of problem solving, so I didn't want to go for any major that I perceived as less technical. (I was a snob). Then I discovered GIS and I found that college could be fun again.
Now I am a Cartographer/ GIS Analyst for the government.
In the end you have to be totally honest with yourself. You have to be able to enjoy what you are going to be doing for the next 30 years. It has to spark your interest and you have to be good at it.
Could I have been a successful Electrical Engineer? Yeah. Totally. But I would likely have been miserable. All the money in the world is not worth being miserable.
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Linguistics is a great area to go into. There's a decent demand for speech pathologists for special-needs persons, research, not to mention academic professionals. My sister, who got her BA in Spanish with a cognate in English, is about to go to get an MA in linguistics. It's not a huge "draw" major like English, Engineering, Psychology, etc. It is far less useful if you're not willing to go to graduate school, though.
As far as choosing BYU, definitely don't choose a university because you happen to know a lot of people who went there, or because an author you like went there, or because it's one of the only major universities you've been exposed to. Do some research--when you get there you're going to have to do plenty of it, anyway.
I know how you feel, I'm a psych major, but I constantly want to switch my major to music performance, theory, or composition, or film studies (which I practically have enough credits to get already--except foreign language). But I'm already too deep in to warrant that, at this point I could get two degrees in the same amount of time, anyway. I love psychology, but don't think I could get into or would want to go to grad school for it--and I'm only a semester away from my degree. I am only twenty, though, so sometimes think about continuing for a while and getting a second BA before applying to grad school. Money is an issue for me. Just like your decision, it's something that needs to be weighed--there's no point in making a bunch of emotional decisions without a lot of data and then regretting it even more.
You want to be a writer? Get an English degree with a specialization in Creative Writing--it's not like having a degree in a field like that is what will get you published, so you can still take the classes and get the information while getting a more useful and generalized degree. You love philosophy? Get a Psych degree with a minor in philosophy, they go well together (I promise) and most school will allow you to use quite a number of philosophy credits towards a Psych degree. You want to be involved in the performing arts? Get a degree studying theater, film, or music in a non-performance aspect (sound, production, lighting, writing, composition...) and use credits in performance towards that degree, most Universities put classes like that under the same heading (Performance Theater and Theater Production both under THR, for example), so classes giving you the knowledge for that field can be used for a professional degree. There are a lot more jobs doing behind the scenes work, and that way at least you have a backup plan that still involves what you love. My understanding is that you are still young and early in your academic career--don't be afraid of changing your plan to something less certain but more livable.
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Thanks everyone. "] Your advice and opinions are very much appreciated.
I think the main reason I don't like my major is that I have crappy teachers. Well I have ONE good teacher and the rest suck. Last semester I had two decent ones. I dunno. I only have a year left. (If anything it'll get me a job to work through the rest of school.) I enjoy programming I'm just not liking school per-se. I think I'll try to finish what I have up, if I can. I think I'll at least do the summer part then if I am still hating it I will change things.
In any case I want to major in something else after I finish. I also think one of the reasons I don't like this part of it school is that if I DO do programming I want to to video game design, and there aren't programs for that anywhere around here.
Thanks guys.
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I've had 4 majors over 10 years and still don't have a degree, it's hard to find what you want to do.
Computer Science
Japanese
Poly-Sci
Digital Media
Irony is I left CS because I really didn't enjoy it, not much of an unmanaged code fan, and now I work for a fortune 500 company as a Software Engineer and the degree I'm working on, Digital Media, is my hobby. I'm pretty lucky to have been in the right place at the right time with some experience to be in a position where I can go to school to learn something that I may never do for a living because it would be hard to make more doing what I do now and I enjoy my job.
Also, like any programming based job, degrees don't matter as much as experience and what you know so get a different degree but make your own games on the side--that's what matters. If you want to go game design focus on interaction design, information design and like programs which are rarely part of a CS major because CS teaches you to think like an engineer and not like a user.
As for BYU it's awesome for Linguistics--it's considered one of the best language schools in the US and it's Japanese program is in the Top 5 (when I was there it was #1 or #2 depending on the professor you asked)--but expensive if you're not a Mormon (basically out of state vs in state).
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I've had 4 majors over 10 years and still don't have a degree, it's hard to find what you want to do.
Computer Science
Japanese
Poly-Sci
Digital Media
Irony is I left CS because I really didn't enjoy it, not much of an unmanaged code fan, and now I work for a fortune 500 company as a Software Engineer and the degree I'm working on, Digital Media, is my hobby. I'm pretty lucky to have been in the right place at the right time with some experience to be in a position where I can go to school to learn something that I may never do for a living because it would be hard to make more doing what I do now and I enjoy my job.
Also, like any programming based job, degrees don't matter as much as experience and what you know so get a different degree but make your own games on the side--that's what matters. If you want to go game design focus on interaction design, information design and like programs which are rarely part of a CS major because CS teaches you to think like an engineer and not like a user.
As for BYU it's awesome for Linguistics--it's considered one of the best language schools in the US and it's Japanese program is in the Top 5 (when I was there it was #1 or #2 depending on the professor you asked)--but expensive if you're not a Mormon (basically out of state vs in state).
Thanks. :]
So you can go there if you aren't Mormon? I was looking at their page last night and it seemed like you had to be a devout church goer. I mean, I have nothing against religion and I find many of the values they teach to be good things. It's just . . well, not for me. ha ha. I am currently working on a DS homebrew. So far it's pretty weird because you program to the hardware instead of to an operating system. But I'm getting there.
I applied to a few different schools last night that had creative writing programs and got emails from two of them this morning saying I was accepted. . . I was like WOW, that was . . fast. ha ha. Maybe I'll change and just do the programming on the side for now and maybe take more classes later.
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You can go to BYU if you aren't Mormon but you have to jump through some hoops and still sign their honor code, not sure how you go about doing them.
One thing to look at if you're switching schools is:
1) How many of your credits transfer
2) If you can get a CS minor (shouldn't let those credits go to waste), if you're lucky you wont have to take any extra classes for this.
Also, not to discourage you, is that if you're getting Student loans it might be better to finish what you've got degree wise and get a job to pay those off then go back--it really sucks to have 20-30 grand in debt when you graduate. I'd talk to some consolers at school and see what in site they have as well.
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I currently have spent no money on school. I had some grants and scholarships so my first year of college was free for me. Thanks again for the advice.
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...it really sucks to have 20-30 grand in debt when you graduate.
Yes, Yes it does.... A LOT!
Sadly the job I got doesn't pay off student debt...
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You can go to BYU if you aren't Mormon but you have to jump through some hoops and still sign their honor code, not sure how you go about doing them.
One thing to look at if you're switching schools is:
1) How many of your credits transfer
2) If you can get a CS minor (shouldn't let those credits go to waste), if you're lucky you wont have to take any extra classes for this.
Also, not to discourage you, is that if you're getting Student loans it might be better to finish what you've got degree wise and get a job to pay those off then go back--it really sucks to have 20-30 grand in debt when you graduate. I'd talk to some consolers at school and see what in site they have as well.
Spriggan is right, dont let those credits sit there. Get some use out of them. The language programs at BYU are given thumbs up around the US. I have a minor in Spanish from there (was gonna double major in Business/Spanish, but decided I hate school). Even by paying the higher fee at BYU if you are not LDS, it is still cheaper that a lot of universities - especially good ones focusing in art. Also, as far as getting accepted to BYU, the easiest time to get in is during the spring/summer terms when they want people to fill their classrooms. Then, come fall semester, you are a continuing student and are good to go.
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I think I've got a good perspective on this (and I've included some wisdom from Brandon in here, for those willing to read the whole thing):
First off, Bookstore Guy and Spriggan give some good advice. Even if you're not LDS, BYU is (often WAY) cheaper than most other schools. It also comes highly recommended for a HUGE number of reasons. However, you WILL have to follow the honor code, and this may mean, among other things, no dating men while you attend. Something to think about.
Now, I graduated from BYU, majoring in both English and History, and I took a minor in Linguistics. I have this to say:
BYU's language programs are FANTASTIC. The school offers over 70 languages, and you'll generally see around 30-40 offered any given semester. While I was at BYU, I took courses in French, Japanese, Old English, Swahili, and Welsh. I loved all my language classes (especially Welsh). BYU's linguistics program is pretty darn good, too, though some of the profs are boring (I really recommend the English Language profs, though; they're good). BYU's Linguistics Department has the distinction of having a moderately famous conlanger (Dirk Elzinga) on staff.
BYU's English program is good. I graduated with one of the older majors which gave me a lot of freedom. I really liked this. Their English major now is much more restricted, but designed really well if you're planning on going to grad school. Most of the professors are pretty good and interesting. And I LOVED the fact that the department was refreshingly neutral, politically (most English departments are notoriously liberal—the one I moved to as a grad student was particularly so). And it doesn't hurt that you can take Creative Writing from Brandon there. IF you end up at BYU, take Engl 218 by Neil Newell. It's the only course he teaches (and he only teaches one class a semester), but he's absolutely fantastic (if you're interested in stories).
BYU's History department is fantastic—some of the profs were boring, but many were good, and they teach you how to interpret history and everything really well, and they really encourage critical thinking and personal interpretation (I did not have a single history professor that wanted me to adopt their particular interpretation of events—they always encouraged independent analysis of the sources, and, at least in my case, they taught it very well). I started out being very poor at History (and preferring English over it), but when I graduated, I was really good at History, and I ended up appreciating my History degree much more than my English degree (for what I learned from it—the English degree is still better for jobs). BYU also has a FANTASTIC library for doing research in History. For my senior paper, I was researching a moderately obscure topic, and the library had almost all of the books I could have wanted on the shelf—several of which had been published within the past 3 years (very new research). I miss that library a lot.
Two important comments
#1: I started out as a Philosophy major, and then changed to English (because it's better for getting jobs, essentially, and I love reading/writing). I actually added the History major because Brandon Sanderson told me this (quoting as best I can from memory) many, many years ago: "If you want to write Fantasy, don't take an English degree. English will teach you how to analyze literature and edit and all that, but it won't give you anything to write about. If you want to write, taking something that will give you important things to write about, like a History degree. If you want to write Science Fiction, take a degree in the hard sciences, like Physics or Chemistry..." Brandon says: If you want to be a writer, you're better off with a History degree than an English degree (which he discovered only after he got his English degree). Well, I have both, and I'm inclined to agree with him. He told me that he found this out the hard way. (Thanks, Brandon! I owe you one—I'm so glad I majored in History!)
#2: The ironic thing is that I always wonder if I should have been a programmer. I've got a VERY analytical mind. I scored significantly higher on the GRE in the analytical (math) section than I did in the verbal section, and I was applying to a Writing MA, and this despite the fact that I haven't taken any math classes in years. I love number crunching. I actually enjoy debugging. I wish I knew a useful programming language, and I wish I could get a job as a game programmer. I know I'd be good at it (and would probably enjoy it), but I just was tired of math when I went to college, and so I shied away from programming. Oh well. I really did enjoy my education, and I'm so glad I have a history degree.
Anyway, that's a bit to chew on, Miyabi.
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...and this may mean, among other things, no dating men while you attend. Something to think about....
This kinda confuses me. I don't know anything about BYU at all, so not be childish or anything, but does the honor code specifically say "No dating men", so women can't date men, and men can't date men, but men and women can date women? ???
Or is it just no homosexual dating, which would make more sense to me, and you just specifically call out to that because Miyabi is a man (or at least, that's what i believe anyways.)
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@Eerongal - It's because it is known on the boards that I am gay, so the comment was being made for my benefit if I further consider BYU.
@Jade - Thanks. A lot of this is good to know. I plan on speaking with a few of my professors today and see what they say. I mean, I DO enjoy programming, I just am having issues dealing with a couple of the teachers. So hopefully that will help on that end. "]
I do also want to write eventually, but I agree with Sprig that it would be a waste to just give up these credits so I'll stick it out for one more year and just get my associates. Who knows, by then my teachers will have changed up a bit and maybe things will be better.
If things are still rough I'll probably go into the writing field.
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@Eerongal - It's because it is known on the boards that I am gay, so the comment was being made for my benefit if I further consider BYU.
Ah, makes sense :P
The comment, so phrased without that knowledge, seemed to be just an odd rule.
I suppose it's worth noting I have no problems with homosexuals whatsoever. I've known a few in my time, and they're just normal people like everyone else.
Well, I suppose I should take that back. People I know and hang out with aren't generally "normally" by any stretch, homo or hetero. :P
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Ha ha. I definitely know that feeling. xP
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In case anyone was wondering. I have been seriously thinking about this and I am done with this major and I'm going to look at some of the colleges I recently got packets from. I hope that everything works out this way. I hope I'm not making a mistake, but I'll never know if I don't just go out and try can I?
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Most people change their majors at least once if not multiple times. I was a Chemistry major for one semester before switching to Linguistics after my mission. And then in my last semester of Linguistics I realized I didn't really want to work in the field and definitely didn't want to study it further. :) (Linguistics is not the same thing as languages; I still like studying languages and colloquial usage.)
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i changed from Illustration to Business Management. as you can imagine, a majority of my art credits weren't accepted in the business school...
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i changed from Illustration to Business Management. as you can imagine, a majority of my art credits weren't accepted in the business school...
I think they should have. Create a new, fun proffesion, abstract accounting.
"Now, we're going to convert your cost of goods from dollars to cubism."
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How about starting as an art major, taking a tour in electronic engineering, Systems Analysis then ending up dual majoring with a BST. Talk about trouble juggling credit try nearly 200 undergrad...
Don't get me started on the three minors.
Sigh! I miss school maybe if I get rich I'll go back.
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Yeah i start UTD in the fall and i have no clue what i want to do i'll end up having like 4 dual majors when i finaly i decide i want to be a drug dealer or a telemarkter or something just as offensive to society and have no use for my education... :P
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I minored in Astronomy, and the professors in the 400-level classes were all confused because they'd never had a student who wasn't a physics major or at least a physical sciences major—they were assuming I had all sorts of upper level math classes, but those weren't required for the Astronomy minor.
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I started out as a Philosophy major, but never got very far into it before changing to English.
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I started out in Chemical Engineering, nearly flunked out of school because I didn't want to admit I was wrong, and wasted three years of my life. I'm now a happy CS major.
Yeah, change your major early (but not often :)).
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Can I just say I hate being a scaredy-cat? Like seriously. Now I'm like. I know that I do like the stuff I do, just not the program. I want to change and try new things, but I'm also afraid that if I do that that I will fail and not graduate. The one thing I don't want to do is be like my mother. . . my mother couldn't get through college . . . and I don't want to be like her. (She later went to prison and blah blah blah) The point is, I'm scared of making a decision like this. I always have been and I hate myself for it. :\
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You can keep the major and change schools if you just don't like the program.
Your education is for you. If you find that the education you're getting isn't serving you, go find a better program that will serve you better. It doesn't have anything to do with giving up.
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Thanks Ook. :] That is comforting. Truly. It is.
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Or, if you're really close to graduating, you could just see it through, graduate, and then take on a new undergraduate program somewhere else. Ari is graduating with her second undergrad this Spring.
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Ha ha. I guess one of the things that makes me lethargic about it is that there aren't any jobs in my area in my field. So it's like I'm stuck not doing anything that involves what I learn in school outside of school. So I become lethargic. I also just wish I could be done with school and have some degree already and go into my field. ha ha.
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If you enjoy the degree you could take it and then relocate to where there are jobs afterward.
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Oh that wasn't what I meant Renoard. I meant that I can't be working in the field now and it's frustrating.
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Well, it's hard now to be working in any field.
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The important part of any education is that you gain skills that are valuable. There are lots of fun majors but they only teach generic skills like "communications" and "critical thinking". Specific techinical, mathmatical or scientific skills are much more valuable in the job market and simply open more opportunities. Of course, for some of us, gaining techinical, mathmatical or scientific skills can require some amount of slogging through difficult and boring classes. But the goal of an education should be to gain valuable skills and not just about studying a specific "major". Just about any major can work as long as the student is gaining the skills that the student needs for a successful career. On this point, I say the more skills the better and I doubt that focusing on a single major alone will provide a satisfactory skill set.
Admittedly, I have four college degrees from three university and wish I could continue to go to school but I still have over $60,000 in student loans to pay off, plus a mortgage and car loan. Oh, and my wife and kids would like to go to school, too.
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I have two majors and about $5,000 in student debt, and I expect that I'm in a much better position than you are financially, Lost One. =þ There is a point where school isn't worth the expense, I fear...
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Wow, that pretty much sucks. I figure so long as I get at least some form of degree I'm that much farther than my mother was.
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I've been wondering, Miyabi. Is your name related to Miyavi at all?
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You are certainly a sharp one. And also probably the first person to figure that out and I've been using the screen name for like 5 years. Ha ha.
Yes it is related to Miyavi, but also the name Miyabi. I liked both so I started using it online. I actually used to have accounts in a few places where I used Miyabi as not just my screen name, but my actual name. :]
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Yay! I should get a prize or something. =þ
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No, you get a prize if you know, without looking it up, in which thing he did Miyavi said
ありがとう、おれさま。
ha ha.
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"Arigatou, oresama"? (Assuming I've read the kana right, it's been so long...)
I certainly don't know Miyavi well enough to apply any significance to that. I recognize only the ありがとう. I'm not sure what the phrase in it's entirety might mean.
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オレ is how I should have typed it. It is a slang word for I. It's from the movie Oresama. In it he falls into the past and meets himself as a kid.
Near the end of the movie he says arigatou, oresama. Thanking himself for what he learned from himself. . . . o.O Wow, that sounded weird.
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オレさま, eh? He must have a high opinion of himself. (Ban from GetBackers refers to himself this way.)
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I do know that -sama is quite an honorific...
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Well it's different. It's like . . . he's talking to a different version of himself. So it's not really HIM, but it is him all at the same time. The other version of himself really opens his eyes to what it is he has and that just because his dreams didn't come true doesn't mean things didn't end up amazing. So he was thanking the kid, who just happened to be himself, and giving the kid the title of さま, but wording it with オレ to make a play on the words, because you obviously would NEVER give yourself the title of さま.
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Who's Miyavi?? ???
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Tall gangly Korean-Japanese transvestite metal guitarist. (I wonder if I should have used more hyphens)
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*brain freeze*
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In order to discover miyavi's identity, you could have done a Google search like the rest of us did.
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In order to discover miyavi's identity, you could have done a Google search like the rest of us did.
Like this? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=miyavi&l=1)
Also: This site has become one of my favorite sites. :D
Especially the fact it actually DOES it :P
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Google is your friend etc. etc.
lol success
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I could have. But that would have required effort. And I had a cookie. :P
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That's really funny, Eerongal.
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I don't get it. And nothing happens when I press 'Google' or whatever the hell the button is called.
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He's one of my favorite singers Shag. He is also one of the most amazing guitarists of all time.
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Sweet. Is he, like, your idol or something like that or?
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No, I just really like his music and skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROHAv3BDjFk).
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Wow. He is pretty awesome. I love that snapping thing he does in the beginning!!!!
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I at one point started learning how to play that song . . . . let me tell you, it will SERIOUSLY make your fingers bleed.
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His hands must be mad calloused. [Well, his finger- tips/pads, really. ::)]
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Probably, but you have to make some sacrifices to be that amazing.
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I don't know if I would call that a sacrifice. You could, like, touch hot coals and crap like that. :P
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Yeah, but his hands would be rough.
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I think it'd be cool. :-\
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It can be, but it can be weird as well.
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I remember hearing that the application of super glue to your fingers help with protecting them.
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That sounds…really weird.
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Not really, it makes a lot of sense. It's like putting something between it to keep it from rubbing on your fingers so much.
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Wouldn't it sound weird, though?? ???
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Personally, I'd never let superglue anywhere near my guitar strings. o.O
Suck it up, if it hurts you need to play more often. ::)
Of course, that's easy for me to say, I've got over sixteen years' worth of calluses on my fingertips.
I'll have to check this guy out sometime when I've got a pair of headphones, Miyabi. Also, try to learn this song you're talking about; when says how difficult something is, I usually regard it as a challenge. ::)
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Good luck with that. He basically plays the 7 bar blues (or something like that) but it's played slap and he does a lot of tapping as well, and does some normal playing. It is basically amazing, but ridiculously difficult.
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Ya. And the snap thing sounded awesome. He's a good snapper. :P
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Haha. I doubt I'll be able to manage. I'm a pretty crappy guitar player considering how long I've been playing. I use my guitar as percussion sometimes, but only in the most basic way.
Haha. I can snap! :P
I'm really curious now, though. >>; I wonder if my brother is using his headphones...
Also, the world wants me to play blues guitar today.
Or maybe I just want to play blues guitar.
Must...finish... novel...
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Well good luck with that considering you have an enormous german unicorn named Fritzel sitting on the shattered remains of your desk. :P
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It's okay. I told him he could. We're good friends.
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Lol.
But, no. That's just part of our…plan to kidnap you and sell you for dark chocolate!!! Now, Fritzel!!! Use the spud gun!!! :P
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. . . 10char
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Huh?
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It's a joke. There are a lot of forums that don't allow your post to be posted unless there are 10 characters in it. That prevents people from just saying lol or ok.
So you type 10char at the end of it to add some extra characters to make it ten.
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Haha I get it now. :-X
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You can search Miyavi on YouTube as well.
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Thanks for stating the obvious once again, Mr. Renoard. :)
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You're welcome Shaggy. It was obvious of course, that's why we all did it instead of asking "wtf is miyavi?":D
BTW don't you get into trouble for using WTF and FTW? ::)
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Where? Here?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Saying "WTF" is technically against the rules. I don't understand why FTW would be. . . . there is no cursing involved in that one.
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But it's inverse cursing! You sinful creature, you!
(j/k)
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But FTW means for the win. . . . none of those are swears. D:
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And (j/k) means (just kidding).
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I know, I just felt like whining. ROFL.
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FTW does not violate Forum Etiquette Rule #9, but it does infringe upon Rule #11. As, by the way, do ROFL and j/k.
(Just for the sake of being picky.)
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3'/3 7|-|1/\/|< |-|3 \/\/45 74|_|<1/\/9 /\/\023 4|_0/\/9 7|-|3 |_1/\/35 0|= 7|-|15.
ha ha. I don't think it was talking about saying things like j/k or lol. Those are just too common place. Heck, I even know people that say them irl.
OK, so my whole post fails, but whatevz.
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3'/3 7|-|1/\/|< |-|3 \/\/45 74|_|<1/\/9 /\/\023 4|_0/\/9 7|-|3 |_1/\/35 0|= 7|-|15.
ha ha. I don't think it was talking about saying things like j/k or lol. Those are just too common place. Heck, I even know people that say them irl.
OK, so my whole post fails, but whatevz.
heh,
|°3|°0|_3 |)0/\/7 74|_|< |_1|< 7|-|15 3/\/09|-| 4/\/¥ /\/\023
(is it sad I can read this stuff, and have been able to since like the mid-90's or so?)
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Well if it's sad then I belong to that club too. I started chatting with friend in 1337 when I was around 8 so that my grandma couldn't read what I was talking about. That would have been in . . . uhm, 98? Yeah, that's when I was 8.
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Well if it's sad then I belong to that club too. I started chatting with friend in 1337 when I was around 8 so that my grandma couldn't read what I was talking about. That would have been in . . . uhm, 98? Yeah, that's when I was 8.
well, my online activity was never monitored, so I started learning it because i would see people doing it, and i was like "What the heck is this?" and I set to work deciphering it. Eventually I saw it enough it became to common place, so I started to pick it up as a natural thing. I have a *HARD* time typing, though, because my hands refuse, they always want to hit the REAL letter instead of the symbols/number, which is probably because I try to type as correctly as possible, so it's pretty much second nature.
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What language is that?? ??? ???
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What language is that?? ??? ???
that's the original form of l33t, sometimes called "Hacksp33k" to differentiate it. Obviously, it's more complicated, so it eventually "dumbed down" for the masses to what is current day l33t.
Note that all this is just from personal experience of learning it through the years of being online. I could very well have learned from incorrect observations and experiences.
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Oh, I see…any place I can maybe pick it up?
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Oh, I see…any place I can maybe pick it up?
hrm....well, mine, and apparently Miyabi's, was picked up from years of experience back when you could still see it on the internet.
Just off of a quick google search i found this:
l33t text translator (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/leet)
If you switch the l33tness to 100%, it appears to translate to it. Note that their listing probably isnt definitive, since there are different variations of each character that differ from person to person
example: I've seen some people do B like this: |3, which is not how the translator does it. Also note that this way it easy to confuse B and E (which is always 3, ive never seen it any other way)
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OK; thanks a bunch.
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You could make a thread Shaggy and we could all just talking in old 13375|*34|< and you could learn it that way.
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You could make a thread Shaggy and we could all just talking in old 13375|*34|< and you could learn it that way.
And then a thread was made where every post reads:
|_3\/\/|_! 5|-|499¥ (4/\/7 234|) 7|-|15!!
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What does that say?
http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6700.0
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I was just picking with the FTW comment. WTF and FTW are mirrors of one another and you REALLY can't see FTW and not think of WTF.
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I don't. I just think of the words it stands for. Or of FTL.
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For me it depends on which one. Like some of them (lol and brb being examples) I see them as "l" "o" "l" and "b" "r" "b" but some like "rofl" I see as pronounced "rofl" and other like "ftw" I see as "for the win". Ha ha. I guess I'm just weird like that.
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Yeah, so, keep the leet in its little box, eh?
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I always see it as:
Rolling
On [the]
Floor
Laughing
Which is why I don't use the MAO. ;P
And why I teased you about "LOLing". :)
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Lollygaggers... =þ
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Where The Red Fern Grows
hehe *giggles immaturely*
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I have to say Shag, that was pretty sharp. :]
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We are soo off-topic...
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Hehe thanks ;)
…and your point is…?