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Title: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 15, 2008, 09:35:21 PM
Welcome to Reading Excuses! If you're not already sure what that is, Reading Excuses is an online critique group. Before you look at this thread, take a look at the Rules of Reading Excuses (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6850.0). Don't worry, we'll wait.

Read that? Excellent! Now you'll actually know what we're talking about when you see our submissions dates.

August 15:  cjhuitt, Mad Scientist, Chaos, Skyhunter, Asmodemon, Will, Guenwyvar
* No more submissions this week, folks! Seven is quite a few.

August 22: Robert, Hubay

To join the email list, please PM both me and Chaos with your email address and one of us will add you to the list.

When it's your turn to submit (and you'll know when it's your turn because you'll have posted on this thread to ask us, right?), you'll send your submission out to all [at] readingexcuses [dot] com

Make sure you format your submission appropriately according to the Rules thread linked above. For a slightly more digestible, but less detailed version of how to submit click here (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6266.0).

Want to know who's involved? Here's a list of everyone who participates, as they're known on TWG.

Silk/Raethe (mod)
Chaos2651 (mod)
Necroben
FirstRainbowRose
WEKM
AvalonDreamer
Little Wilson
Flo the G
Karl
Sortitus
Spejoku
jwdenzel
 Frog
Pipe
Hamster
Rane
Ryos
Ravenstar
ErikHolmes
swaindaddy (Chris)
Miang
Stormcryst
ApocRK
Jexral
manji
Stridera
Recovering Cynic
Westwriter (Greg)
Bravesamewise
Shi
Andrew the Great
Preposterous Justin
LongTimeUnderdog
vegetathalus
clarissavandell
lethalfalcon
Justin Carmony
Dark Prophecy
Asmodemon
ublique
Argas
Shivertongue
Aginor
Pogi Dave
Drew P
Justice1337
Renoard
Talyn
aronsamma
Comatose
Valkynphyre
wisteria_purple
Hubay
Daddy Warpig
Aerim
Derby
Zardog
Eerongal
Fireflyz
Stormblessed
becoop
akoebel
RiaRaen
aqualibrium
sceneTK421
madelste (Michael)
halo6819 (Robert)
Bunchkles (Chris)
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: jjb on November 15, 2008, 10:14:05 PM
Sorry if this is answered in the comments on Writing Excuses, but what are these submissions going to be in the form of? Are they responding to the occasional writing prompts from Writing Excuses, or is this a full-fledged writing group where we're writing a whole book and we submit chapters to each other?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 15, 2008, 10:43:29 PM
I'd suggest that people use this forum to submit whatever they feel really needs workshopping. That way people who write short stories or scripts or whatever aren't excluded from the fun, and people who are writing novels can choose to share theirs if they want to.

There's already a thread for Writing Prompts, so I'd say if you just want to SHARE what you've written for a prompt, go there, since that's more of a for-fun thing. If you want an actual critique, then post it here.

Those would be my suggestions, anyway. I await everyone's passionate rejections. ;)
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 15, 2008, 10:51:56 PM
Raethe, this sounds like a brilliant idea. I can always use more input on my stuff, and it would be a good impetus for me to stop slacking off and actually write for once.

Is there any plan to have sort of a weekly schedule, or is it just going to be a "when you have something done, submit it" sort of thing?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: jjb on November 15, 2008, 11:08:56 PM
I will join as well, but I probably won't write stuff to submit until after NaNoWriMo is over.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 15, 2008, 11:35:53 PM
Haha. I can't take the credit for it, I'm afraid - it rose out of a discussion on the Writing Excuses board. I'm still all for it, though!

A "submit when you're done" deal would probably be much easier to organize. If we go that way, then I'd suggest the guideline that for every manuscript you submit for critique, you yourself have to critique at least one.

Of course, one of the advantages of structured writing groups is solid deadlines, so if people want to do that, then sure. Shall we take a vote? ;)
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: wcarter4 on November 16, 2008, 01:57:14 AM
Well, this solves one of my problems. I'll submit material as I'm able, next semester will probably be a bit easier than the current one though.

-Jake

p.s. are we doing this in pdf, Word or what?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 16, 2008, 02:13:21 AM
I personally like Word because I'm rather attached to its comments feature (though that might be kind of obsolete since we're doing discussion on the forum, but it's still kind of nice to mark up minor things like line edits and grammar fixes). That and I have no way of converting my own files to .pdfs. Either should be readable to pretty much everyone, though. At least, word files should be readable if they're saved as .rtfs.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 16, 2008, 02:50:37 AM
I know OpenOffice (what I use) can open all Microsoft Word documents, but I don't know if it has a comment feature...

Ah! Now that I look at it, it does have them, they are just called "notes". Wonderful! They are really quite handy.

If anyone has difficulties opening .doc files or .odt (OpenOffice files which are really nice since they are smaller file sizes), you can always go to www.openoffice.org and get the latest version for free. It's nice :P

Haha. I can't take the credit for it, I'm afraid - it rose out of a discussion on the Writing Excuses board. I'm still all for it, though!

A "submit when you're done" deal would probably be much easier to organize. If we go that way, then I'd suggest the guideline that for every manuscript you submit for critique, you yourself have to critique at least one.

Of course, one of the advantages of structured writing groups is solid deadlines, so if people want to do that, then sure. Shall we take a vote? ;)

I like the idea about a 1:1 ratio for critiquing. It would make things pretty nice, and force reciprocation (which is sort of what this is all about). As for solid deadlines, I think we should try it this way--without deadlines--and see how that pans out before we start getting too ambitious with all of this.

EDIT: I read through the comments on Writing Excuses Episode 2-5 and I had forgotten about the issue of protecting the work. I would normally say that we could trust each other, but I suppose it wouldn't be a huge deal if some people wanted to use PDFs and we just post the comments on the forum.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: wcarter4 on November 16, 2008, 05:14:43 AM
Well, Open Office can export to pdf, so you and I are good, but not everyone can so we should probably stick to regular docs. Besides with a huge group of us, I don't think it would be hard to catch and call out anyone stealing someone else's material. I don't think anyone who is even halfway serious about doing this is likely to do something like that anyway.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 16, 2008, 05:32:45 AM
Yeah. I intend to just use regular .docs, even though OpenOffice can export to PDF. It's not practical for them to steal the work, anyways, because the whole point of this is to critique each others work. If they steal, then they won't get any more critique on their own work. Their loss.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Dangerbutton on November 16, 2008, 05:58:28 AM
I like this idea. I'm in.
my email is ...
I'll be using OpenOffice. Trusty old OpenOffice
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Necroben on November 16, 2008, 07:24:41 AM
I'm in as well.  I think this is a great idea.  I'll be using Word, but will that be compatible with this OpenOffice thing back and forth?

My e-mail    ;D
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 16, 2008, 07:30:23 AM
I think it'll probably be compatible just as a .doc file (no .docx files though, for anyone using Vista) and if not, then word can save as .rtf which should work for pretty much anything.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 16, 2008, 07:40:15 AM
I think this sounds like a great idea!  my e-mail is ...  Of course, if I send anything out it will be a .rtf simply because that's the format I use for everything.  (Plus, I believe it's compadable across the board for both mac and pc users.)

So, just to make sure I've got this straight, but adding my address I've now agreed to read and critique anyone's work who e-mails it to me.  Then, in exchange, if I wanted something of my own critiqued I would just need to e-mail it to anyone/everyone who has listed their e-mail address here, correct?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 16, 2008, 08:00:17 AM
I think it'll probably be compatible just as a .doc file (no .docx files though, for anyone using Vista) and if not, then word can save as .rtf which should work for pretty much anything.

OpenOffice opens all files, actually. It will open .docx's (though that's in the 3.0 version of OpenOffice, so it's just a quick upgrade away) for certain. OpenOffice is open source, so actually, it's a lot easier to fix compatibility problems on it than something like MS Office. But, enough of me shamelessly plugging it's awesomeness :P
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: WEKM on November 16, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
I'm in as well. I guess I had better be as I was one of the ones pushing for this.
I too agree to review anyone's work I get emailed. In return, I hope to also get mine looked at as well. I use MS Office .DOC as well, but if it will be an issue, I can submit anything in .rtf.
I will also try and minimize my sarcasm in reviews, as I have been told that in posts, sometimes it is hard to tell if one is being sarcastic, or just mean.

As well, I would like to vote for a weekly deadline. We could go with submissions needing to be in by the close of the week, (Saturday) to be reviewed over the next week in the forum. That way everyone has time to review and comment on them all.
Also, in keeping with things pointed out in previous podcasts, if you keep submitting the same piece over and over you will be openly mocked.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 16, 2008, 07:33:28 PM
Personally? I don't honestly think I'm able to keep up  a weekly schedule right now. But if that's what other people want to do, then I'm not really opposed. I'm tough, I can take being laughed at.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 16, 2008, 07:37:49 PM
I definitely can't do a weekly schedule right now, either. After December 17th, when the semester is over, perhaps, but right now, there is much college work to do.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 16, 2008, 08:50:58 PM
I definalty couldn't do a weekly scheduel thing.  I mean, I am writing 2k a day, but it all royally sucks.  I need to have like everything reworked when I'm done with this thing.  I think it would be easier to just come on here and say "I've send something out.  Thoughts when you can." and then proceed from there.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Necroben on November 16, 2008, 09:51:00 PM
I must agree, right now I'm in the middle of the NaNoWriMo (and doing great) but I don't know how well I could keep faith with any set schedule.

I've had my main character married by surprise, meet her parents, abducted, sent to hell, fall in love with another woman, watch that woman die, and kill a giant amphibian; and that's only half way through.  Whooo...
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: WEKM on November 17, 2008, 02:38:44 AM
How about a monthly schedule. I know that right now is hard. We could all submit at the first of Dec and go from there, with the deadline for the next session the 31st of Dec to be reviewed during Jan. Then you have some time to work on a section as well as time to review submitted sections.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 02:52:12 AM
How about a monthly schedule. I know that right now is hard. We could all submit at the first of Dec and go from there, with the deadline for the next session the 31st of Dec to be reviewed during Jan. Then you have some time to work on a section as well as time to review submitted sections.

That's definitely not a bad idea. I can definitely pull that off, since I'm already preparing this first chapter of my novel for feedback. However, if NaNoWriMo writers want to submit some of their stuff from that, they might want a day or two after the end of November to cool down and/or revise whatever they want to first submit. Though, once we get going, I really can't see how hard a monthly schedule can be.

I'm for it. What does everyone else think--namely, the NaNoWriMo people (because schoolwork totally destroyed my efforts on it early on, so I'm no longer a part of that)?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 02:55:00 AM
I think I'll sit out the first round of submits, but I'll definatly edit.  I really just want to get the entire book written and revised before I start sending it out for thoughts.  (Because if you read it as it is now I think it would be shot down and killed.)
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Necroben on November 17, 2008, 03:31:49 AM
I'm up for it!  A monthly schedule will fit in fine with me.  I have a week of on-call that usually destroys anything I want to do, but its a five week rotation, so I should be good.

What sort of Guide Lines should we have for submissions?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 03:35:42 AM
I think I'll sit out the first round of submits, but I'll definatly edit.  I really just want to get the entire book written and revised before I start sending it out for thoughts.  (Because if you read it as it is now I think it would be shot down and killed.)

Yeah, that's my only concern with the December 1st deadline--not enough time to do some coherent revision. Though, WEKM, you can count on me to submit by the deadline, barring a meteor strike on my dorm or something.

Hmmm, guidelines. I think we should have some pretty lax guidelines (we don't want to stifle anyone), but there's going to have to be some common sense involved. For example, don't submit an entire novel of stuff. That's a bit outside the scope of a single session for in-depth comments. Other than that, I can't really think of anything, but then again, I'm rather new to the explicit "writing group" concept (I've just had alpha readers before).

EDIT: Now that I think about it, "double spaced" might be a really good guideline to set in stone right now.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 03:42:45 AM
My thoughts on the guidelines.

1: no spamming.  Send out one copy to everyone, then wait for the thoughts to come in.
2: No replies to comments about your own work.  It's like I heard once: no matter how much you argue or defend, they're mind has already been made.  Just note their thoughts and move on.
3: No wedging.  We all understand that everyone is going to try their hardest to be nice, but sometimes no matter how you word it things will come out harsh.  So, don't preface your comments with apologies.

That's all I can think of for now.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Necroben on November 17, 2008, 04:00:48 AM
O.k.~

Quote:
EDIT: Now that I think about it, "double spaced" might be a really good guideline to set in stone right now.

Quote:
1: no spamming.  Send out one copy to everyone, then wait for the thoughts to come in.
2: No replies to comments about your own work.  It's like I heard once: no matter how much you argue or defend, they're mind has already been made.  Just note their thoughts and move on.
3: No wedging.  We all understand that everyone is going to try their hardest to be nice, but sometimes no matter how you word it things will come out harsh.  So, don't preface your comments with apologies.


~For example, don't submit an entire novel of stuff. ~

Word count limit?  1.5 spacing=9 [email protected] words w/.doc (or there abouts)
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: jjb on November 17, 2008, 04:05:06 AM
I like the idea of a monthly schedule as well, but because of NaNoWriMo, I know I wouldn't have anything to submit by Dec. 1st. And the situation would probably be the same with the rest of the Nanoers. Therefore I propose a middle of the month deadline. Submissions due by the 15th of every month and we critique the pieces until the start of the next month.

That way, we'd have those two weeks between the 1st and the 15th to correct any glaring plot holes that were identified. If people were still critiquing for the whole 30 days, then you might submit a new entry that has the same plot holes as the first.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 04:09:55 AM
Why not do it so that we submit on the 15th, and on the 1st we start posting comments.  That way we have 15 days to look out for things in the next piece before we fix it?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 04:26:50 AM
I like that idea a lot of submitting on the 15th.

 
O.k.~

Quote:
EDIT: Now that I think about it, "double spaced" might be a really good guideline to set in stone right now.

Quote:
1: no spamming.  Send out one copy to everyone, then wait for the thoughts to come in.
2: No replies to comments about your own work.  It's like I heard once: no matter how much you argue or defend, they're mind has already been made.  Just note their thoughts and move on.
3: No wedging.  We all understand that everyone is going to try their hardest to be nice, but sometimes no matter how you word it things will come out harsh.  So, don't preface your comments with apologies.


~For example, don't submit an entire novel of stuff. ~

Word count limit?  1.5 spacing=9 [email protected] words w/.doc (or there abouts)

You shouldn't reply to comments about your own work, but I think that it is necessary to have the ability to ask follow-up questions. And that's where the line can get fuzzy, because a follow-up question could turn into just another form of response. However, I'm a firm believer that follow-ups are essential.

I am opposed to an explicit word limit, if only for the self-serving reason that the first chapter that I want to submit is 19 pages double spaced at around 3500 words :P. I know it's long, but really, once you read it, it really works as one cohesive chapter. I don't think we should limit lengths of submission, because that could artificially alter the story you are trying to tell.

I think with the length guideline, the point is to just say "don't make it deliberately gigantic". Tell what you want to tell, and then submit that. Don't go fifty pages or something insane like that, use common sense.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 04:57:19 AM
I'm in:

I've met most of you all on other bits of the forum, and I think it'd be awesome to form up a writing group. I can do two or three evaluations a week, but school and my own writing keep it to about that.

What if we left it to: "One chapter at a time."? If someone is sending out deliberately large chapters, or unnecessarily long ones, it's a problem that can be rectified.

Have we decided on a date for first submissions?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 05:04:34 AM
I'm in:

I've met most of you all on other bits of the forum, and I think it'd be awesome to form up a writing group. I can do two or three evaluations a week, but school and my own writing keep it to about that.

What if we left it to: "One chapter at a time."? If someone is sending out deliberately large chapters, or unnecessarily long ones, it's a problem that can be rectified.

Have we decided on a date for first submissions?

Yeah. "One Chapter at a time" is what I was trying to get at, you just said it much clearer :P

It's either December 1st or December 15th--we haven't quite had a consensus on that yet. However, it will probably be a monthly schedule, so that's one submission per month.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: WEKM on November 17, 2008, 06:33:11 AM
I think that the 15th will work well this time around. That also sets up a good point for everyone to shoot for.
I also agree, one chapter per session. Unless of course, it is a short story and can be considered the equivalent of a novel sized chapter or two. Let's just not go crazy and have everyone submit their entire work from NaNo.

Should we break up the discussions into separate threads for each submission once we start? That way everyone knows right where to go to see comments on their work.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 06:35:44 AM
I'm for the breaking up thing.  That way, we don't have to hunt through tons of pages of posts to find comments.  Also, I say that at the start of each session we post the title of our piece, so we can just look and say "oh, this is the topic with that chapter".
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 06:51:41 AM
Oh, definitely we'd want to split the topics up between authors. That would be insane if we didn't.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: jjb on November 17, 2008, 08:34:59 AM
I totally agree with the separate threads thing, but would it be one thread per author, one thread per chapter, or in the case of short stories, one thread per short story? I personally think it should be one thread per book or short story. So if you're a short story author, you will have multiple threads. If you're writing a book, you will only have one thread and you will be able to look through to see if problems are still the same from chapter to chapter. (There would have to be a clear way to see which chapter is being commented on, of course.)

Another question: How many people we are supposed to send the story out to? I would assume that we send it to everyone who has put their email up. Right now the number of people who would critique the story is 8 (Raethe hasn't added AvalonCreamCorn yet). I don't know how large writing groups normally are, but I would assume 9 is okay, but pushing  the limit.


And yet another question, but this time not very relevant: How many of you guys actually have the same emailaddress as your username, or did you create another account so wouldn't get spammed?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 17, 2008, 09:09:31 AM
No, Raethe has been at work all day and hasn't had the chance to update the email list yet. :P Also, this is the email she always uses, and she enjoys referring to herself in the third person.

Ahem.

It looks like there are going to be a fair number of us doing this, so maybe we don't WANT to submit all at once. We could split into two groups - one group (whoever's ready) submits December 1, the next group submits December 15. That way, people who are ready now don't have to wait forever, and people who aren't don't have to scramble. It will also keep us from dealing with two dozen (or whatever) submissions at once.

A seperate thread for each submission would be my advice. Should we say, each author who's submitting starts their own thread, and title them, say, name of submitter, title/chapter number, date? That seems to me the easiest way to keep things organized. Though jjb's idea of one thread per book/story has merit too...

Regarding length, I think that 3500 words or so is completely reasonable to ask everybody to read in a month. (Particularly if we don't submit all at once. I'm lobbying for that one!) I also agree that we should be able to play a bit of fast-and-loose with the length, though; I'd say if your complete chapter is 4500 words, go for it. If you submit all 50,000 words from NaNoWriMo, though, I will have tomatos ready.

Now, what about people who write really short stories or chapters (many of my short stories come in at under a thousand words long)? Do we allow them to, or request them to submit more than one chapter/story/whatever so they're coming in at the same length as the rest of us? Or do we just allow people to submit whatever they feel needs to be workshopped?

And yeah, I'd say we send it out to everyone who's put their email up.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 09:38:15 AM
"Chaos2651" is my usual internet handle. If you googled it, every single hit you get would be me. So, I try and streamline it and make it so everything I do is with that handle.

Raethe, that idea for submitting in two sections sounds like a brilliant one. I vote for that one :P

For the submission topics, I think the format should be like this. You put which month you are submitting in (for clarity), then the title of your work, and the chapter number. I think, by having each chapter/submission in a separate topic, it makes it much easier to have all the comments on that section in one singular place. I don't know about other people, but gigantic topics are not fun to navigate at all (have you SEEN some of those Hero of Ages theory topics? The Hemalurgy one is beyond 30 pages of posts!).
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 09:41:52 AM
I second the two groups thing.

And firstRainbowRose is what I use for EVERYTHING!  I have since I was in 7th grade and people started using "rainbowrose" on me.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 17, 2008, 09:45:38 AM
Yey! Yeah, I think it'd make a lot more sense than all of us doing it at once. So. Are/will some people be ready to submit by December 1st? Do we have any volunteers? (If that's a no-go, we can always do December 15 and 30th.)

Date - title - chapter number? Okay, that works.

Chaos also makes a good point about huge topics. I'm starting to lean more in the "one thread per chapter/story" rather than the "one per book" direction...

Oh. What about content? We're mostly speculative fiction writers. Do we want to keep our content to strictly spec fic, or is literary fiction okay too?

Haha. RainbowRose - Funny, I've been using the name Raethe since about seventh grade, too. She was actually a character from one of my first "novels" (please don't ask me to tell you about it. Ever).

((In other news, I appear to have gone from "wealthy and important" to "penniless and bankrupt". Wth is with these status thingies anyway?))
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 09:49:23 AM
I am willing to submit on December 1st. Heck, technically the chapter is already done, I'm just applying some extra polish to it.

Content... well, I don't see any reason why we expressly need to limit it. People should have the freedom to write what they want and get feedback.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 17, 2008, 09:57:06 AM
Genre would have been a better word for my above question. Oh well.

Hmm. Do we have any young readers on this list? Maybe we should get people to label their work with things like violence, nudity, profanity where necessary...
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 09:59:25 AM
I'm ready for a Dec. 1 submission. I support both the two groups and "Title"/"Relevant Section" thread conventions. I think a 1:1 is a little skimpy for turn-around, if it was meant one review per every submission. Depending on what the consensus feels up to, maybe make it three or four.

Since I believe that you, Raethe, started this and are the more-or-less unofficial chair-poster (yay for PC terms) of this group, it'd be up to you to decide who is in which group (1st or 15th); it'd be nice to know who is where for the start of the month.

As for genre, I have no issue, and I endorse the labeling of works. We could use the FCC's notation of Violence, Strong Language, Drug use, and Sexual content, then add where necessary. (I.F. "'Title'/'Chapter', V L")
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 10:01:15 AM
I agree that we should label them.

Also, another idea on how to find your groups is by genre.  I mean, my romance focused book won't be of much intrest, and thus the comments I get back usually won't be very helpful from someone who loves blood and guts work.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 10:05:24 AM
As authors though, we should all be able to fairly evaluate - if not write - content from any genre or style, at least using basic writing fundamentals as guideposts.

I'm primarily an Adventure/Fantasy/SciFi writer, but I can look at the use of PoV, style, tensing, and scenery in a Romance and give feedback on how it flows; that taken aside, I can also appreciate a decent romance.

Splitting by genre might not be the best idea, but deliberately splitting so we have mixed genres each group may do better, so each writer has more sympathetic readers per revision cycle.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 10:07:39 AM
Labeling is a good idea. Since I already know what I'm submitting (and the content inside of it), I'll give you the label right now:

Genre: Epic Fantasy
Content: Violence, Strong Language

(mind you, it's fantasy violence, so it isn't that bad. However, it's still enough for me to warrant marking it)

I was thinking the same thing about the ratio. We have a lot more than just two people submitting. I, for one, don't care much about the particular ratio. Whatever writing is sent to me, I will read and comment (if I'm not horribly busy, that is). While I don't care about the ratio, it's important for people to feel obligated to comment. That is, after all, the whole point of submitting in the first place.

I will read whatever it is, regardless of genre. We should be inclusive with genre, but if something isn't working out in a particular group, there's no reason not to adjust groupings accordingly to get better results.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 17, 2008, 10:13:29 AM
I dunno. I'm with you on that we should be able to evaluate any genre fairly - but I don't think it's really feasible to organize everbody by what genre they're writing (personally, I do a fair amount of genre-hopping). I think we're just gonna have to say that if you're writing something that's not speculative fiction, bear in mind that you'll have to take some of our comments with a grain of salt.

As for the ratio, ideally we'll see about half and half per submission I figure - I think we just want to keep the workload more or less even. ;)

Oh, and I didn't actually start this, unless by this you mean the thread. A Writing Excuses critique group was suggested by someone or someones who are, um, not me.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 10:14:43 AM
Ideally, people will just want to give feedback, because that gives a great incentive for people to want to read their stuff. :D
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 10:18:56 AM
Utopia is the place where ideals are reality - last I checked we were on earth. As much as I agree that we should be good human beings and even *gulp* friends and do the right and good thing, a small set of rules never hurt anyone (unless facists were involved).
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 10:24:26 AM
And a small set of punishments don't hurt, either. For example, "If you don't submit anything, we will laugh it you."
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 10:25:57 AM
That's not fair, brat!  :P  J/k

I don't see what's wrong with not posting anything ourselves.  I personally don't plan on doing so until Feb or March, but I don't see any reason why I can't start helping and critiquing now.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 17, 2008, 10:30:56 AM
Chaos - you read my mind. ;)

I agree, though, there should be a spot for people who just want to critique instead of submit. Rose, we'll just not give you a submission deadline, but keep you on the email list. Howzat?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 10:39:46 AM
Hear that RainbowRose?

We. Will. Laugh. At. You.

Fear the giggles... FEAR THEM!

... Is it just me or does that punishment feel a little... ridiculous? Maybe hang them by their ankles from a tree and lash them with spaghetti. Really give it to them.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 17, 2008, 10:45:46 AM
We'd have to do it virtually, though. Wet spaghetti lashings just don't have the same effect when they're not in person.

So we have Chaos and Avalon ready to submit by December 1st. We have nine people on the list, I think, so we only need two more to make that 50%ish split...

Any other takers?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 06:02:40 PM
That's not fair, brat!  :P  J/k

I don't see what's wrong with not posting anything ourselves.  I personally don't plan on doing so until Feb or March, but I don't see any reason why I can't start helping and critiquing now.

Ahem. "If you miss the deadline, we will laugh at you." How's that for a rule :P Because if you just critique, then there's no deadline to miss, eh?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 07:54:53 PM
Okay, that makes a lot more sense.  And who knows, since it's only the first two months, I might just submit a couple of short stories or something.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Manyang on November 17, 2008, 08:24:53 PM
I finally kicked myself hard enough to register. I'll do the reading up part later this week though.

My email:


I'm Chris on Writing excuses BTW.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 08:40:59 PM
Congrats for taking the leap - this place can be pretty freakin' scary sometimes...

So, who are our last 2-3 victims for round 1? I'm sure someone has something ground out that they need looked at!
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 08:44:21 PM
Well, not to put words in WEKM's mouth, but he did sort of suggest the December 1st deadline to begin with. I think he would go for that one. But, then again, I'm not WEKM.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 08:47:55 PM
I'm going to submit on the 15th of each month.  I'm going to see if I can't get a new short story of decent lengeth, and decent writing done by then.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Miyabi on November 17, 2008, 09:33:52 PM
I can join?

Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 09:41:06 PM
Total lolcat moment, but yeah. If we have 9 people, we could do 3 cycles of 3 people: a 1st, 11th and 21st.

(You're a software dev major?! *high five*)
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
I can join?


Of course you can join. We accept everyone! Well, everyone who is a writer, that is. For example, no talking monkeys. Since you aren't a talking monkey, I think you're fine.

Total lolcat moment, but yeah. If we have 9 people, we could do 3 cycles of 3 people: a 1st, 11th and 21st.

(You're a software dev major?! *high five*)

Meh. That seems too complicated. I'd rather have larger groups. I'm sure there will be more people coming on the email list eventually, so there's no need to limit it.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 09:46:19 PM
I agree.  I think it should simply be a submit on one of the two cycles, and go from there.  Anyone who joins after the firsts round can be either added or assigned a new group depending on how far past the first round we are.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 09:48:03 PM
Wait, no talking monkeys? Why do we have to go off and discriminate against Ookla? Isn't a Mok some sort of monkey?

I will not sit idly by as you play fast and loose with what orating or non-orating forms of primate, avian or otherwise may or may not be in this writing group! Frankly, I am appalled, and... Actually, I'd be a bit interested to read what a parrot would have to write...

And way to go, shooting down my cleverly crafted idea... Jk. Two would work better from an organization standpoint.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 09:49:10 PM
Wait, no talking monkeys? Why do we have to go off and discriminate against Ookla? Isn't a Mok some sort of monkey?

I will not sit idly by as you play fast and loose with what orating or non-orating forms of primate, avian or otherwise may or may not be in this writing group! Frankly, I am appalled, and... Actually, I'd be a bit interested to read what a parrot would have to write...

I was taking a sip of water as I read your post, and I very nearly spit it on my monitor. That was hilarious.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 17, 2008, 09:50:27 PM
I'm just sitting here dieing of laugher, and hoping that my job calls and tells me they don't need me today so I can stay home and read everything as it comes in.  This is too much fun to miss.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 09:52:15 PM
We are just so much fun to be around.

Besides, we are "bonding". Yeah. That way, we are more comfortable giving feedback on submissions! Certainly, we would never goof off like this. This is serious business.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 17, 2008, 09:54:18 PM
Yes, serious. Serious like an ill-uttered Nietzsche quote while drunk, at an office party, huddled under a table. And contrary to what anyone says, I was NOT being paranoid that the Fourth Reich was attacking our building...

In other news, floor buffers are really loud.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Reaves on November 17, 2008, 09:59:24 PM
I'm going to sit out of this for a while, although I'll read comments of other peoples stuff! I may join once you guys get a firm schedule going, just to shake things up.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2008, 11:10:03 PM
I'm going to sit out of this for a while, although I'll read comments of other peoples stuff! I may join once you guys get a firm schedule going, just to shake things up.

Then it helps if you give us your email so we can actually send you stuff :P
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: wcarter4 on November 18, 2008, 12:05:16 AM
I think the 15th is looking like my kind of deadline right now. I've got too much on my plate due at or around the 1st already.
Well back to NaNo writing...
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 18, 2008, 12:08:35 AM
*pulls out a whip*

Darn straight back to NaNo writing.

Hey chaos, ever consider a spam label?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 18, 2008, 12:47:42 AM
If I were to put a label on my can, it would have to be better than spam :P
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Necroben on November 18, 2008, 01:10:38 AM
I can submit something on the 1st, if it's OK to use my NaNo writing.  I would be looking more for opinions on Character and Dialogue and story Flow.  I tend to write rather short chapters; that was why I was asking about word count, otherwise I would end up sending 2 pages.  :P
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 18, 2008, 01:36:51 AM
What do you mean by "short chapters"? If you can send on 2 or 3 and be around 3500 words, I wouldn't freak out about it.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 18, 2008, 01:38:57 AM
Well, that makes more sense, then.

It's not like there's a restriction against NaNo writing--in fact, I fully expect to see some at some point. It's just that I knew at least firstRainbowRose was not exactly thrilled with the quality of her NaNo writing, so I was saying that if you so desired, some time to revise might be nice so you can feel better with the thing you are submitting.

But, on the other hand, it would be great to see some NaNo writing if you think it's up to snuff. Or, if it's not up to snuff, you can submit it anyways and people will critique it for quality. It all comes down with the author's preference. If you want to submit NaNo stuff, go for it! Anything that you want critiqued works.

No need to submit a two-page chapter, either. In fact, I'm rather intrigued how you can compact something that small :P If they are that short, then I would rather see more than one chapter to get a better idea of how things flow together.

(The point is to just not submit the ENTIRE NaNo novel :P)
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Necroben on November 18, 2008, 01:50:15 AM
Yes, I agree (No whole thing all at once).   I'm not saying all my chapters are all 2-3 pages, it might be that I have to revise some of them together.  Unfortunately this is the first time I've written more than three together and may be doing it wrong.  (I'm just trying to remember how the books I've read do it.) :-[
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 18, 2008, 02:03:27 AM
Well, if you aren't sure on something, then that's another wonderful thing for the Writing Group to get back to you about.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Necroben on November 18, 2008, 06:30:23 AM
Your right!  That's why I love this idea.  I want to get better! :D
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: WEKM on November 18, 2008, 08:30:52 AM
Hence why we tried to get this going.

I was pushing for the 1st because I'm impatient and wanted to get some feedback. But the 15th works well for me too.
Yes, purely selfish motives on my part.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Chaos on November 18, 2008, 08:39:28 AM
Hence why we tried to get this going.

I was pushing for the 1st because I'm impatient and wanted to get some feedback. But the 15th works well for me too.
Yes, purely selfish motives on my part.

Ah, but WEKM, does that mean you want to submit your first item on the 1st? I think that is the current relevant question.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2008, 09:31:13 AM
No way is NaNo writing allowed!!

 ::)

Yeah. If you're comfortable submitting your NaNo writing, go for it. Essentially, as long as you feel like you'll get something useful out of the critique, go for it, would be my advice. (That's why I'm not volunteering myself for the 1st - I could totally submit NaNo writing, but to do that I'd have to give you the other eight chapters first, and THAT would totally not be useful for me right now.)

It alright if I sign you up for the first, Ben? what about you, WEKM? Being impatient to get some feedback and all. ;)
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 18, 2008, 09:46:17 AM
Madam Raethe, do you think it would be a stretch to ask that the original post containing emails also denote who is on which cycle?
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2008, 09:52:19 AM
Haha. Great minds!

Yeah, was just thinking of doing that. Off to do that now, and I am totally not re-reading this thread first because I totally have not forgotten already what we've decided. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 18, 2008, 10:08:03 AM
Not trying to be picky, but the CreamCorn part is for the thanksgiving holiday thing. My usual is AvalonDreamer.

As for great minds, damn straight. I'm taking it my assumption that you're a girl was right? The name on the site in your prof was, so I went on that assumption, lol...

I'm itching for the 1st to come around so I can send it out! My alpha readers are all liking the bit I have ready to go, but none of them are writers, with the ability to look at it academically.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2008, 10:14:27 AM
Sure, I'll change it. I have no idea what handles people usually go on this forum, so yeah, don't mind me.

And yes, entirely right. It's funny, though, the number of people who are genuinely surprised when I tell them I am a girl. I must project a particularly male vibe or something.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: M on November 18, 2008, 04:38:54 PM
I'm in if it's not too late. 
Here is my email: 

I post as M in Writing Excuses.  I could probably post something by the 15th or sooner if needed. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on November 18, 2008, 04:45:07 PM
I'm late, but here goes, email: 

Disclamer, my last name is Ennis. My friend set up my email acount...and got the last laugh.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 18, 2008, 06:07:34 PM
Sure, I'll change it. I have no idea what handles people usually go on this forum, so yeah, don't mind me.

And yes, entirely right. It's funny, though, the number of people who are genuinely surprised when I tell them I am a girl. I must project a particularly male vibe or something.

Maybe going into the Profile section on TWG and putting info that you are Female might help alleviate the problem :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on November 18, 2008, 07:04:09 PM
My e-mail: 
I'm able to submit either on the 1st or the 15th.

Oh, and Raethe, you're not the only one who might "project a particularly male vibe." I get the impression sometimes that I do, too....although I'm not entirely surprised by that. I've got three older brothers who for the longest time when I was younger I wanted to be just like....I assume my mistaken gender can be blamed on that.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Manyang on November 18, 2008, 07:18:43 PM
Actually when names are ambiguous in gender people tend to default to assuming that person is male.
Not sure why exactly but it probably has something to with the myth that there are no women on the internet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2008, 07:39:55 PM
Huh, I thought I'd done that already.  Changed my profile, that is...

Wilson: You blame your brothers, I'll blame my friends, since all of my friends at university are guys. I dunno about this no women on the Internet thing, since I have far more female friends online than not. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 18, 2008, 08:07:34 PM
I try and pick of from how people write, actually. Raethe has a soft, imperious way about her posts that remind me oddly of my friend Kerri. Wilson, honestly I wasn't sure about you, until I saw that the pic was a girl; I thought/hoped you were RJ's Wilson, but that was wishful thinking on my part. Miyabi is another one I thought was a girl, for which I apologize (pink/purple writing? lol), but could you blame me?

Just make sure that none of you are talking monkeys, or Chaos will condemn you. ^^
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 18, 2008, 08:26:28 PM
Fortunately, "talking monkey" isn't a choice in the "Gender" field :P.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Reaves on November 18, 2008, 08:34:34 PM
Then it helps if you give us your email so we can actually send you stuff :P

But then someone might get confused and think I'll actually comment on it!! I know it sounds weird but for now I'll just read the comments, I don't need the originals.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2008, 08:36:00 PM
Oook oook. What?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on November 18, 2008, 09:41:56 PM
You confused about the talking monkeys part? Me too. Maybe they'll explain.

Sorry to disappoint, Avalon, but no, I'm not RJ's Wilson. Although that would've been pretty cool.

And wait, Miyabi ISN'T a girl?....I didn't know that. Of course, I've only been around a few days, but I'd just assumed because of the font color.....Obviously I was wrong. (You know what they say about assuming...)

Hmmm. Maybe I should switch my pic to a gender-neutral one. Then I could fool more people....Even though it says on my profile that I'm a girl, so...yeah. That might not work....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 18, 2008, 10:27:36 PM
Great. You sign up, find the forum empty, go and do other stuff for a few days and now there's dozens of posts that I'm too lazy to read. I hope this hasn't been suggested before, but how about splitting things up into smaller groups, genre-wise? Because I for one would really like to join in on the fun, the length of the email list is a bit daunting, however.

Now if you've discussed all this before, just answer with a heartfelt "read the thread, dumbass".
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2008, 10:36:26 PM
I still don't think it would be feasible to split groups up according to genre. I genre-hop way too much in my own work and I can't imagine I'm the only one that does. Besides, it'd be an organizational nightmare.

I do agree that that email list is getting rather large. Maybe we should have three groups instead of two. That'd mean we'd each be submitting every month and a half rather than every month...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 18, 2008, 10:48:04 PM
Oh, there are already multiple groups? Kay, I'm reading the thread now.
The groups thing was my main point anyway, genre was simply the first possibility of demarcation that sprang to mind.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2008, 11:01:25 PM
Yeah, essentially we're splitting that reading list into two groups - everybody still reads everybody's stuff, but some of us will submit on the first of each month and some of us will submit on the fifteenth of each month.

Ideally we'll have a half and half split, but right now we've only got 3 or 4 people submitting on the 1st, which means we'll have like 11 people submitting on the 15th. I'm hoping we get a couple more takers for the first submission.

(Hint hint. I'd do it myself, but I don't have anything worth submitting right now that hasn't already been workshopped to death.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on November 18, 2008, 11:25:27 PM
I can submit on the first. But I do have a question on time frames for response to submissions: is it up to the end of the thirty day period, or until the next set of submissions?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 18, 2008, 11:39:22 PM
All right, sign me up:
I probably won't be submitting anything myself for a while, what with ink on paper being not exactly easily mailable and all, but I aim to begin digitalisation sometime early next year...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jjb on November 18, 2008, 11:49:04 PM
I know that this idea might not go over too well but after looking at the email list, the task of reading and critiquing potentially 10 people's submissions all at once is a little daunting. I know we wouldn't have to do them all in one day, but with them sent to me on the same day I know I would probably end up not reading all of the submissions and I'm almost positive I wouldn't critique all of them.

Which is why I think we should give each person their own day. One person submits on the 1st, one on the 3rd, one on the 5th, etc. Since there are 14 people, having one submission to read and critique every other day would probably work out pretty well. And if more people join, we could easily assign two people to a certain day. We wouldn't have to stop critiquing one story after the next one is submitted, but hopefully we'll be getting to the end of that critique and can focus more on the next one.

It would be more complicated to set up the submission schedule, but once it's set up I think the process would flow better.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 18, 2008, 11:54:30 PM
That is true, but on the other hand, we don't know how many total people are going to register for the mailing list. There could come a point where all the different dates are chaos.
Title: Re: Email List
Post by: Necroben on November 19, 2008, 12:22:32 AM
It alright if I sign you up for the first, Ben?

Yes,that's fine, I'll be ready.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 19, 2008, 06:28:12 AM
Here's a thought: any people attempting to join after the 15th of next month have to submit a piece and be approved?

It seems like the group is growing kinda fast, and uncontrolled growth leads to mediocrity. It's why the romans died.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on November 19, 2008, 06:40:12 AM
That's not a bad idea, Avalon, but...it seems kind of harsh. I mean, this is a group to get help on writing, and if you submit work to get it approved to BE in the group, what happens to those who don't get in? How would the people on the "Approval Committee" break that to them? "Oh, well, your work is so hopeless, we can't do anything to help you improve it."....Ouch. That's not exactly an enviable position....

I agree that we're getting a lot of people....So maybe we SHOULD do it by genre. Nothing major, just two seperate groups--fantasy and everything else. Go by the overall theme, I guess. What would you classify your book as? And if a user wants to review books in both groups, have at it.

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 19, 2008, 06:55:00 AM
Why not just simply say anyone who joins after the first rounds has to be in their own group?  I mean, we can have anyone who joins by the first be one group.  If you're intrested after that, you start a topic that is "group two e-mails" and they set their stuff up with one of us moding (is someone an offical mod for this area?) to help out as needed.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 19, 2008, 07:11:17 AM
Well, I didn't mean that we'd reject poorly written stuff, I meant that if you wanted in, you needed to show that you have some sort of cohesive idea for a project, and have enough initiative to write it up a little bit. My girlfriend's writing group requires that you have a sponsor AND submit a piece to get into the group.

Basically, it wouldn't be a filtration process for bad writers, merely a way of weeding out the kind of people we wouldn't want in the group (here I invoke the name UtopiaGreen...) - essentially trolls and people too lazy to do what we ask to get in.

Our Mod is the uncanny Fellfrosch (who is himself, a writer...), at the moment. We are looking into having someone else here to be a more active monitor of the board.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 19, 2008, 07:24:46 AM
I have a potential strategy. It is as elegant as it is simple.

Wait and see. I don't know about you, but December 15th feels like an eternity away (though, that may just be because I have so much freakin' work to do before that date will roll around). Therefore, it may be just a little premature to start uber-structuring this stuff before we even get the first submissions.

Oh, you wanted like an actual strategy? Well, that's good, because I have one of those, too! If Reading Excuses' growth increases at a constant upward rate, well, then obviously that would get extremely hectic very quickly. I think too many submission dates would needlessly complicate the process. Instead, how about we eventually subdivide the main Reading Excuses group into smaller sub-groups. A group of five, six, or seven is not difficult to deal with, and I think the main issue here is that we could have too many people/submissions to deal with in a single time frame. Well, sub-groups would solve that problem. It's less to keep track of, at least.

The problem with sub-groups would then be, how do we determine sub-groups? For this, it may just be necessary to wait and see how the December submissions go and roll from there.

Of course, there are a few problems with sub-groups. Firstly, if everyone is divided into their cushy sub-group, then that does not immediately "invite" new writers into Reading Excuses. I don't know about you, but I think the more, the merrier, here. The key is just to utilize the manpower (and fresh writers and ideas) in a coherent way. We don't want anyone to feel alienated.

One potential solution to the alienation issue is to rotate writing groups. That way, more ideas and feedback can get flowing. Unfortunately, this also has drawbacks, because for people submitting lots of chapters of a single work, it's not easy to just say "Oh, now the new subgroup gets to read this heap of pages!"

Since any of these potential methods have drawbacks, I think it would be better to just sit back through the December submissions and see how it goes. For all we know, the new people entering Reading Excuses could level off and we get a more manageable group to work with. Or, people might just look through their emails and pick the submissions they want to critique and by some miracle, it turns out that people are critiquing works at a pretty consistent amount, enough so that it would no longer be practical to divide in sub-groups.

We just don't right now. Let's wait a little bit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 19, 2008, 08:03:39 AM
So... You recommend we sit back and wait... do you know who else sits back and waits....


COMMIES!

Actually, I'm rather fond of the rotation ability, because it solves a few issues all at once... If you only need to write responses to a small group to keep up your ratio, and the group is defined for you, it's only a nightmare on the back-end, and I'm not adverse to helping our mod (*cough* Raethe *cough*) figure out the groups and such for each rotation, and I'm sure Chaos isn't either, eh?... Comrade?!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 19, 2008, 08:06:53 AM
Well, let's keep our pants on (in fact, let's just do that anyways) and hold tight. We will see how December goes, and if sub-groups are necessary, then we can press through that route.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 19, 2008, 08:11:08 AM
I agree that we should just wait it out.  I mean, by that time half of the people may decide they're not up to critiquing, and since we've agreed on a 1:1 ratio (if you send out, you critique) thing, then they'll get dropped.  I mean, the people who have signed up compaired to the people active in trying to decide and help out is quite a bit smaller.  I think the group will be similar.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 19, 2008, 08:20:37 AM
I do agree on waiting, despite my earlier insanity. Prudence and consideration shall set our course, for the hand of man is unfortunately imperfect, while the beauty of nature's chaos is undeniable.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 19, 2008, 08:28:26 AM
I don't think we should put a limit on the time frame we have for getting critiques to people. Obviously the sooner the better but frankly, for our later submissions (the December ones don't concern me, because I'll be out of school) I will have a LOT of trouble giving people the critiques they deserve if we have to do it within two weeks or whatever. A deadline like that will also make the number of people we critique every time look a LOT more daunting.

Flo - I'll sign you up as just a critiquer for the moment, rather than for a submission deadline. Rose, did you say you wanted to submit on the 15th, or just wanted to help critique for now? Sorry, I forget.

I think Chaos had it right - our best bet is to wait and see how things work out before we start banging our heads over the problems that we might potentially run into someday. I think there will be pros and cons to any strategy we use, such as alternating groups or whatever, but heck. We're just getting started here. Let's just burn that bridge when we get there.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 19, 2008, 08:32:38 AM
I don't think we should put a limit on the time frame we have for getting critiques to people. Obviously the sooner the better but frankly, for our later submissions (the December ones don't concern me, because I'll be out of school) I will have a LOT of trouble giving people the critiques they deserve if we have to do it within two weeks or whatever. A deadline like that will also make the number of people we critique every time look a LOT more daunting.

I'm opposed to a critique deadline. And really, a deadline isn't absolutely vital, since the submissions are still going to be in the email box once it's all said and done, no matter how much time passes. They aren't going to vanish, so there's always more time.

However, it would be nice if people critiqued a work before the next submission from the same author. For example, once I submit a chapter, it would be good if it was critiqued before I sent in the next one.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 19, 2008, 08:34:43 AM
I said I'll wait for a little bit.  I simply know that my book compleately sucks at this point, and the 15th won't be enough time to finish it, let alone edit it so other eyes can see it.  (and I don't want to do any editing until it's all done, in case at the very end I get a stroke of genious and have to go back and drop the foreshadowing in as I write it so I know where it should be.)

Also, I say that we should say rather then a time frame to cirtique have it be a "well, here's the chapter, update it when you can" because if we are all reading 15 pieces at 7+ pages each, then it will take a while.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 19, 2008, 08:38:07 AM
I think that's a good goal to hold ourselves to, yes. I don't think we should make it "if you don't do it you get kicked out of the group" (unless it becomes obvious that somebody's sandbagging) but I think that in most cases that should be a fairly reasonable amount of time.

I would say that the ONE time we ought to give ourselves any deadlines, as such, is if somebody's preparing a piece for submission to an anthology with deadline X (or whatever). It seems to me that if someone's looking to shop an MS and they're themselves running on a deadline, they should be able to let us know and we can then make a point of doing that person's first, or whatever.

Okay, I'll sign you up for just critiques for the moment then Rose. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 19, 2008, 08:44:01 AM
I think it should be said that not all of us have to read all of the submissions that arrive in the inbox. If the 1:1 ratio still applies, well, you could have a lazy month of just critiquing one thing. Now, I find that 1:1 is not very helpful to specific pieces (the more people critiquing a single work, the better), so while it would be nice to do a lot more--in fact, highly smiled upon to do more--it's important to remember that none of us are superhumans. No need to critique all 15 submissions if you aren't capable of that sort of workload.

I think I'd only be able to go with 10~15 submissions per month as my maximum workload, but that's purely a guesstimate on my part. I would like to read as much as I can, honestly, so I would never arbitrarily limit myself to a certain amount of works. However, it becomes counter-productive if we need to critique so much that it is cutting into our own writing time.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 19, 2008, 08:47:37 AM
You know how there are site awards for writing reviews and participating in contests and such? Maybe would could get one instated for RE contributers who have a good ratio or w/e. I know it's about as vapor as brownie points, but still...

I'm really freaking tired...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 19, 2008, 08:52:05 AM
I like the idea of a rating system for contributors. Or, at least, a counter for the number of pieces you have submitted and the number of pieces you have workshopped.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 19, 2008, 08:56:18 AM
I think we're going to have to be fairly informal on this one and just say do what you can, when you can. The problem with making a 1:1 ratio "official" is depending on what people picked to critique, some people might not get critiqued at all. And as you said, the more critiques a person can get one piece, generally speaking, the better.

In an ideal world, everybody would critique everything that gets sent out. In an ideal world. I suggest we strive for that as much as possible without killing ourselves.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 19, 2008, 08:57:38 AM
I think we're going to have to be fairly informal on this one and just say do what you can, when you can. The problem with making a 1:1 ratio "official" is depending on what people picked to critique, some people might not get critiqued at all. And as you said, the more critiques a person can get one piece, generally speaking, the better.

In an ideal world, everybody would critique everything that gets sent out. In an ideal world. I suggest we strive for that as much as possible without killing ourselves.

Yes. We appear to be on exactly the same page here.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 19, 2008, 07:13:21 PM
Not having to critique each and every mail I receive to stay in the group sounds absolutely marvelous to me. ;D
A list of who did how much sounds like a good idea, too, although I wouldn't want to be the one responsible for managing that list.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 19, 2008, 07:21:28 PM
Sorry, Flo, what do you mean by "who did how much"?

(Yeah, don't mind me - confusion is more or less my natural state.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 19, 2008, 07:47:39 PM
Submissions and critiques is what I meant. "Who did how much work" might have made things clearer, if only slightly. I've had a long day, coffee hasn't kicked in yet, I'm too tired to think straight, let alone write intelligibly.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on November 20, 2008, 01:37:18 AM
Let me see if I have this right: 

1.  We don't have to review every submission.  And,

2.  There are no deadlines.

What if one or two submissions don't get reviewed at all?
Would it be possible to "call" a particular manuscript?

people 1, 2, and 3 submit to review

and then people post to say they are reviewing this one or that one;  i.e.

x-person  #2 submission,
y-person  #1 submission, and
z-person  #3 submission

Maybe this way we can make sure no one gets lost in the shuffle when we have 17 submissions but only 7 people can review that time around; for whatever reasons that might comes up.  Life often intrudes.

Also, this would encourage others to submit by the hypothetical deadline, as you might not get reviewed if you wait to long to submit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on November 20, 2008, 02:42:25 AM
Ok so per advise from Chaos Im posting here to join your group.

E-mail: 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 20, 2008, 02:48:17 AM
There is the deadline for submission--that much needs to be in place so us procrastinating writers don't delay things too long. However, there's no deadline for critiquing.

I think if works don't get critiqued, we can always post a little disclaimer saying "This piece hasn't been critiqued yet" to grab people's attentions. Above that, we should play this first month by ear and see how it goes. If there is a serious problem with lack of critiquing, well, first there will be some scolding involved on the critiquers, perhaps :P but then we can institute a system to ensure critiquing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 20, 2008, 07:16:28 AM
Again, I agree. At this point, I don't honestly think there'll be a problem - there are a lot of us, so even if we only critique two or three each we should probably have everyone covered... yeah, I'd just wait and see.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on November 20, 2008, 07:21:15 AM
It looks like we need some more submitters for the 1st. I'll be ready by then, so you can put my name down if you want.

And I agree about waiting to see if we'll need some sub-groups....and other things for the rules (like the ratio, and making sure that all submissions get reviewed).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 20, 2008, 07:31:44 AM
Okay. Kendra's down for the first and Erik's email is on there. :)

Yeah, I'd actually really rather avoid subgroups if we can - but yes, we're getting waaay ahead of ourselves.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 20, 2008, 09:17:26 AM
Have we agreed on some sort of tag for the mails? Being able to shield them from the attentions of overzealous spam filters would be quite handy, I think.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 20, 2008, 09:19:04 AM
I would think something like "Writing group submission for (insert date) by (name)" would work just fine.  Because then it would be nice for us to easily see when it was sent, and for when.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 20, 2008, 09:34:37 AM
... and "writing group submission" is highly unlikely to feature in an email about not at all dubious sources of cheap pharmaceuticals. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 20, 2008, 09:36:15 AM
Well, you can set up most e-mail programs to look for certain things in the subject line and automatically put them in a specific folder.  So not only would they more then likely not go in your junk folder, you wouldn't have them in your inbox either.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 20, 2008, 09:39:17 AM
Yeah, I kinda like the "reading excuses submission - date - name" format. Good idea, Flo.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dangerbutton on November 20, 2008, 05:46:14 PM
I would be willing to submit on Dec. 1st, if there is still room for that.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 20, 2008, 07:59:35 PM
There sure is. I'll put you down. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 20, 2008, 09:27:11 PM
Anyone else itching for that magic day to come around? We should all get cupcakes and candles and celebrate the Grand Opening of RE on the first...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on November 20, 2008, 09:38:53 PM
That's a great idea! I say the celebration should entail a practice for the evil-laughing chorus, too....It should come after we all stuff our faces with chocolate cupcakes, so that way our vocal chords are in the worst possible condition for laughing (assuming laughing works the same as singing....which I don't think it really does, but oh well....).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 20, 2008, 09:47:59 PM
You plan, but I'll focus on working on my submission for the 1st :P Busy busy...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 21, 2008, 12:01:38 AM
Mine's almost ready. After my trip out to Iowa, it ought to be perfectly ready. ^^

I've been thinking about ways we could be awesomer, though: what about a bit of HTML for  signatures that points to a neat RE graphic that links back to the board? Spread the love!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on November 21, 2008, 12:21:16 AM
That would be pretty sweet. I say let's do it!....And no, I'm not volunteering. I'm not technologically savvy enough for that.

If the graphic was cool enough, we could totally become the most envied people on here.  Us and our sweet Evil Laughing Chorus. Just as a reference, here's how it would look: us and our ELC--  8) Everyone else--  :o

And now I really need to get back to editing my submission for Dec 1st...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 21, 2008, 12:25:11 AM
I have Photoshop. I can totally make "art" by just making some cool text effects.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on November 21, 2008, 12:29:31 AM
alright what the hey. add me. 

I think we will end up needing more than one group. 7-10 seems like an optimum number.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 21, 2008, 12:30:30 AM
Do it! If you need someone to scratch up the HTML or host the image, I can take care of that. My artistry is limited to writing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on November 21, 2008, 08:35:16 AM
Okay, late arrival. I'm still recovering from the internet-deprived wild and wooly weekend. So get me on this list, pronto!

 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 21, 2008, 08:37:08 AM
I can do some pretty decent art minips if we needed something for siggys.  I play around with photoshop in my spare time and often look for things to do when I get bored.  If anyone has some ideas on what it should look like I can make up a couple of examples and we can decide on something "offical"
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 21, 2008, 08:51:06 AM
Reaves and Karl, I'll add you guys to the list. When do you guys want to submit, the 1st or the 15th?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: WEKM on November 21, 2008, 10:05:14 AM
I would like to submit on the 1st, just because I'm rearing to go, (and I desperately need the feedback).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 21, 2008, 11:28:46 AM
Haha, I figured you might. I'll put you down.

Awesome. I think whichever date Karl and Reaves pick, we'll be at a relatively even split. Hooray.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 21, 2008, 11:37:06 AM
I'll put you down.
Now we know what happens if we show too much enthusiasm. Fly you fools! She can't get us all if we run in different directions!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 21, 2008, 11:52:49 AM
Hahaha. That was actually pretty funny.

Sigh. And I suppose I have to admit I deserved that. ::)

Fine. I'll put you down to submit for December 1st.

:P

Hey, it's three in the morning. I don't HAVE to be clear.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on November 21, 2008, 01:43:10 PM
Jeeze, I didn't think you'd go so tyrannical so fast... Figured Chaos would have, though. ^^ lol

What're our current authors and readers counts?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on November 21, 2008, 05:24:56 PM
Wow, I feel kind of stupid now. I didn't get that joke at first.....probably because I read "to submit on December 1st" into it and not just the "I'll put you down.".....To give myself some credit, though, I did catch the LotR reference.....It seems that's what I'm best at doing--catching movie references made, since I also noticed Chaos's reference to PotC.....So I fail on the jokes, but I score on pop culture....I guess that works.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 21, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
*cracks whip*

I mean, uhh, what?

Haha. I fail on pop culture references (as I believe I've already demonstrated somewhere on these boards. I forget what the conversation was about though).

There are eighteen of us on the list, two of whom have elected to just critique for now and will start submitting when they're ready.  Of the rest, seven of us have signed up to submit on December first.

Sounds manageable enough, no? :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 21, 2008, 07:41:50 PM
Now I just need to make sure I actually get this revision for this chapter I'm working on done. The submission deadline is scarily close.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 21, 2008, 07:42:34 PM
I feel the same way about the NaNoWriMo deadline. Only 7070 words. AUGH!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 21, 2008, 07:58:29 PM
Not only that, I have this Multi-genre project for my English 339 course which is due on December 2nd, and I've barely begun.

I'm beginning to doubt whether I can even hit the submission deadline of the 1st. Hopefully, I can, but it is also possible I can't. We shall see.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on November 22, 2008, 01:34:03 AM
Hmm... Are joins still open? If so, put me down for the 15th. If not, I hate you all. ;)

email:

disposition: aggressive
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 22, 2008, 02:43:57 AM
Not that you would ever give us an ultimatum, or anything like that. ::)

Make that nineteen of us.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on November 22, 2008, 04:07:41 AM
I'd prefer the first but really I'm good with whatever.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 22, 2008, 05:28:52 AM
The first it is.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on November 22, 2008, 07:33:33 AM
Not that you would ever give us an ultimatum, or anything like that. ::)

Me? Never!

Thank you!  ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: spejoku on November 22, 2008, 08:32:36 PM
Is twenty people fine? If so, sign me up!  

Nanowrimo is taking my time, so I'll try for the fifteenth. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 23, 2008, 12:12:58 AM
You're in.

We might have to start thinking about subgroups after all. Still, I think we should at least wait through our first two submissions and see what's what before we start trying to organize that.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: WEKM on November 23, 2008, 04:42:03 AM
Haha, I figured you might. I'll put you down.

Just be sure and give any positive feedback first.  ;)
If nothing else, you can always say that at least I know how to spell "teh".

DOH!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 23, 2008, 05:50:12 AM
As much as I hate to say it, but I'm afraid I must recant a bit. It seems unlikely that I will be able to get my chapter revision done by the 1st. English 339 and the two things I need to get done for that class must take greater priority, I'm afraid. Barring a miracle, I would need to submit on the 15th. Sorry.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on November 23, 2008, 07:55:36 AM
Let me get this straight... you are just 18, in your first semester AND have a 300-level class? Should I be impressed or afraid?!?

Is your chapter readable? Doesn't need to be the latest revision as long as we can understand complete sentences.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 23, 2008, 08:01:26 AM
Not only that, but I'm not even an English major. I took English 339 because I wanted to :P

And yes, there is a slightly older version of the same scene. It's readable, I just want to spice it up a little bit. For example, one of my spicier additions is to make the torture just a tad more explicit...

Er... You didn't hear that :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 23, 2008, 08:13:05 AM
Alright, I'll change it. Since it's the first submission and you told us in advance, we won't even break out the Evil Laughing Chorus.

Sorry, Karl - did you ever say when you wanted to submit, the first or the fifteenth?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 23, 2008, 08:57:35 AM
Well, there's still a slight possibility I could just give you the un-revised scene. I don't know. We'll wait and see :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 23, 2008, 09:47:43 AM
Since it's the first submission and you told us in advance, we won't even break out the Evil Laughing Chorus.
Aaaawww :-[
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on November 23, 2008, 05:06:15 PM
Raethe --  actually I hadn't mentioned when. Don't really mind either way.

Are folks submitting their current chapters only, or will they feed it to us from the beginning?

Since I'm working on a series of short scripts (roughly equivalent to chapters) I had figured to start with the first one and work from there. I've written scripts #1,2,3 & 5 (chronologically),  and am working on #4 now. Only the first two have been significantly rewritten, and I'm sure there are problems in each.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on November 23, 2008, 05:23:19 PM

And yes, there is a slightly older version of the same scene. It's readable, I just want to spice it up a little bit. For example, one of my spicier additions is to make the torture just a tad more explicit...


wow your character is getting tortured in chapter one?? I pity him/her/it...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on November 23, 2008, 05:42:54 PM
I'm sure the torture scene merely sets the mood before the musical interlude.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 23, 2008, 06:32:34 PM

And yes, there is a slightly older version of the same scene. It's readable, I just want to spice it up a little bit. For example, one of my spicier additions is to make the torture just a tad more explicit...


wow your character is getting tortured in chapter one?? I pity him/her/it...

:D I would tell you more, but I find it far more fun to tease you all.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 23, 2008, 09:21:44 PM
I think most people are submitting their first chapters. If you want to submit something later, I don't really see a problem with that. You should probably write us a brief synopsis so we know what's going on.

The only thing to keep in mind that reading a synopsis doesn't give us the effect as reading the actual chapters. People might have questions or concerns based on the synopsis that aren't quite relevant. You just have to be able to throw those away.

Karl, I think I'll put you down for December 1st then. That way we'll have nine and nine sumissions, plus our two readers.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on November 23, 2008, 11:20:08 PM
I think most people are submitting their first chapters. If you want to submit something later, I don't really see a problem with that. You should probably write us a brief synopsis so we know what's going on.

The only thing to keep in mind that reading a synopsis doesn't give us the effect as reading the actual chapters. People might have questions or concerns based on the synopsis that aren't quite relevant. You just have to be able to throw those away.

Karl, I think I'll put you down for December 1st then. That way we'll have nine and nine sumissions, plus our two readers.

Excellent. Looks like things are shaping up quite nicely.
Also I agree a synopsis isn't a whole lot of help. The whole point of this is to improve writing skills, not how well you know your story.
       Take that with a bit of salt. After all synopses count as writing too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 23, 2008, 11:44:04 PM
There's a time and a place for synopses. I got the go-ahead to work on my current novel for one of my classes this year. Problem was, it was already 40,000 words long, and I couldn't exactly ask my classmates to read all that just to get up to speed. Besides, the first chapters had already been workshopped to death, and need significant plot-important rewrites anyway. Getting those first eight chapters workshopped again would not have been at all useful for me, but getting critiques for what comes after is much more helpful to me. So I wrote a synopsis. It got everybody up to speed on the most important parts, and for that, it's useful.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hayley on November 23, 2008, 11:58:44 PM
Hey, all.

Email: 

Submission: 15th Dec.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on November 24, 2008, 03:28:49 AM
There's a time and a place for synopses. I got the go-ahead to work on my current novel for one of my classes this year. Problem was, it was already 40,000 words long, and I couldn't exactly ask my classmates to read all that just to get up to speed. Besides, the first chapters had already been workshopped to death, and need significant plot-important rewrites anyway. Getting those first eight chapters workshopped again would not have been at all useful for me, but getting critiques for what comes after is much more helpful to me. So I wrote a synopsis. It got everybody up to speed on the most important parts, and for that, it's useful.

I stand corrected  :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 24, 2008, 06:28:14 AM
Sounds like this should belong in Writing Group?  Anyone mind if I move it?

Also:  You people should probably not be plastering your email addresses all over the forum, as this forum is open to the public and your email addresses are likely to be the receivers of much spam.  Consider keeping the email addresses scrambled, or, better, yet, kept to private messages.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 24, 2008, 06:33:56 AM
Actually, Knight, this is expressly for Reading Excuses, which was requested by fans of Writing Excuses. It's a bit different from the regular writing group stuff.

As for the emails... that's a very good point. Private messages, though, aren't exactly the most intuitive thing for our purposes, but something should be done to hide them somehow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on November 24, 2008, 06:34:40 AM
Psst~ Generous, this is a secret forum. Log out and you will see.  8)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 24, 2008, 06:36:12 AM
Psst~ Generous, this is a secret forum. Log out and you will see.  8)

Hmmm, that's something I certainly did not know before... Interesting.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 24, 2008, 06:46:38 AM
Fascinating.  Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on November 24, 2008, 07:13:02 AM
Anyone care if I email my piece early? No point waiting until Dec 1 if its just sitting here. That would give us a chance to work on any other bugs in the system and stagger the reading a bit.

I will wait for others opinions, but could send it out Tuesday.

Side note: I am blocked from accessing this forum at work now. I could get in last week, but not this week. Bummer.

2nd note: wish me luck on my job interview tomorrow. It's with the same company that I'm at, so it's not like I'm out of work. But my job pays for my hobbies, and a raise would not go amiss. I know who 7 of the 12 interviewees are, and the competition is pretty formidable.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on November 24, 2008, 07:48:27 AM
Good Luck!  Hope you get it! :D

I do not object, sounds like a plan.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 24, 2008, 07:50:28 AM
Good luck on your job interview, man.

As for mailing it early, I think it's better to wait. I understand it seems it a bit pointless, but I think it's a very good policy that we stick to the two submission dates. Imagine if we had ten more members on Reading Excuses (total of 30) and they began submitting at weird times. It would get chaotic really fast.

I'd prefer to try out this structure for the first month. If it's horrible, we'll do some staggering thing, but right now, it would be a bit easier if the December submissions actually occurred in December.

I'm also intending to do another FAQ for the process of submitting and all of the formatting things that go along with it (like the format for making the topic title you'd create and such) just so we are all on the same page with that. I'd like to wait a little nearer to Thanksgiving before I make that quick FAQ. And yes, I think it's already on the Rules of Reading Excuses topic, but it would be a lot better if the FAQ for submitting was easy to find, so it needs to be a separate topic for the sake of clarity.

And for purely selfish reasons, if you waited to submit on December 1st, that would prevent me from getting distracted reading your stuff, which is probably a heck of a lot more interesting than my schoolwork...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on November 24, 2008, 07:54:17 AM
Yeah, I rather not get any more distracted from WriMo...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 24, 2008, 07:55:56 AM
XDD

Chaos makes a good point RE: schoolwork. (And Sortitus makes the same good point RE: WriMo.)

I wouldn't have objected to you sending it early (of course, I already HAVE it, so it's not like it matters to me) but Chaos makes a good point, I think.

Also: Good luck.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on November 24, 2008, 05:17:35 PM
I shall cater to the whims of the masses. I shall wait.

But now it seems like a challenge to attempt to distract Chaos...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 24, 2008, 06:44:29 PM
No, the only challenge is to keep myself on task :P It's not hard to get me distracted.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 27, 2008, 02:00:26 AM
News: I may just reach December 1st after all. Today's plane flight was simply phenomenal for writing :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on November 29, 2008, 12:03:46 AM

And yes, there is a slightly older version of the same scene. It's readable, I just want to spice it up a little bit. For example, one of my spicier additions is to make the torture just a tad more explicit...


wow your character is getting tortured in chapter one?? I pity him/her/it...

:D I would tell you more, but I find it far more fun to tease you all.

Hmm...I just realized you aren't nearly as cruel as I thought. Compared to me at least. After all, my main character dies in chapter 2.




What were you saying about teasing? 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: firstRainbowRose on November 29, 2008, 12:07:35 AM
Wait... we have an undead mc?  This could get intresting.  Unless they stay dead, and which point I ask how can you have the mc die so soon and still be the mc?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on November 29, 2008, 01:49:51 AM
Part of it has to do with misunderstandings the characters have about the world. Part of it has to do with the magic system.

lol he is not undead. That would be creepy.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on November 29, 2008, 04:01:32 AM
'E's not dead. 'E's pining for the fjords!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: WEKM on November 29, 2008, 12:57:12 PM
No, the only challenge is to keep myself on task :P It's not hard to get me distracted.

Chaos look, SOMETHING SHINY!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 29, 2008, 07:11:43 PM
WHERE!?

...

*cough*

I said nothing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 29, 2008, 07:27:18 PM
'E's not dead. 'E's pining for the fjords!
Pinin' for the fjords? What kind of talk is that?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 29, 2008, 08:58:04 PM
No, the only challenge is to keep myself on task :P It's not hard to get me distracted.

Chaos look, SOMETHING SHINY!

If it isn't the shiny glint of a can of Dr. Pepper, I must pass :P

And yes, there is a slightly older version of the same scene. It's readable, I just want to spice it up a little bit. For example, one of my spicier additions is to make the torture just a tad more explicit...


wow your character is getting tortured in chapter one?? I pity him/her/it...

:D I would tell you more, but I find it far more fun to tease you all.

Hmm...I just realized you aren't nearly as cruel as I thought. Compared to me at least. After all, my main character dies in chapter 2.




What were you saying about teasing? 

Oh, my main character isn't getting tortured. He is the torturer :D

I mean... "interrogater". Sort of.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 29, 2008, 09:17:57 PM
Inquisitor Glokta FTW!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on November 29, 2008, 11:21:03 PM
'E's not dead. 'E's pining for the fjords!
Pinin' for the fjords? What kind of talk is that?

Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Blues stun easily, major.

Lovely plumage!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 30, 2008, 12:56:17 AM
Well this is getting rather silly, isn't it?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 30, 2008, 01:56:48 AM
Yer only just noticin'?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on December 01, 2008, 03:59:46 PM
Mine will be being sent later today, possibly after midnight. I'm out of town and ended up without a connection that lets me upload... blegh.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 02, 2008, 12:32:27 AM
Well, I suppose we can hold back the Evil Laughing Chorus for that. Just this once. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 03, 2008, 10:07:19 AM
Hmm. I'm thinking that maybe in the post where I list everyone's submission dates, I might also find like.. I dunno... an image of a checkmark or something to put in front of everybody's names who HAS submitted, or something. I figure if we can all just look at that one post and see exactly who's submitted and who hasn't it will keep us all more motivated. ;)

Not anticipating any problems this month while we're all still on the "WHEE! This is brand new and therefore awesome!!" phase but you know, it might just come in handy later...

Edit: Heck, I'm making this more compliated than it is. The forum has emoticons, we can just use happy/sad faces.

Whaddya guys think? Decent idea?

( ;D yes,  :( no,  :o late? or what?)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on December 03, 2008, 09:28:59 PM
I am thinking perhaps we should move the December 15 submittance date to the 8th. Really, I don't want to wait another 2 weeks until we get to the second half of submissions. I don't think anyone is feeling overwhelmed by too much material, so really we might as well have something being sent out every week. Agree? Disagree?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 03, 2008, 10:04:29 PM
Haha. I still haven't even decided what I'm going to submit - I doubt I'd have anything ready by the eighth.

And I know a lot of us are students, which means we're into - or heading into - the winter break right now. I doubt I'd be able to keep up that pace come January, say, and I'd be surprised if I was the only one who felt that way.

Still - what do others think?

(I mean, maybe it IS just me, and if that's the case I'm not going to rain on everyone else's parade.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 03, 2008, 10:53:43 PM
I'm fine with submissions every week.

If we do this, I think we should probably lay the Evil Laughing Chorus off a bit. There are quite a few students on here who may miss a few submissions during school. But with it doubled up, if you miss, you only have to wait 2 weeks for the next submission, instead of a month. And then it's not so "Oh it's my submission date, I HAVE to get this in" and so you put off other, slightly more important stuff such as schoolwork (that's what I would do, anyway....).

And it makes the whole process faster. Some of us aren't finished with our books, but some are, or close. This makes it so you don't have to wait one month per submission. I mean, if you've got a 15 chapter novel going, and each chapter is over 3k, that's only one chapter a month. That takes over a year...At least if you want to get it all reviewed here. That's a long time....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 03, 2008, 11:02:37 PM
I'd been thinking the same thing. :/ It's definitely a problem.

I'm still not sure that I personally can keep up with biweekly submissions, and it'll make things more difficult in terms of making sure everybody gets at least a couple of decent reviews every time - which is what I'm really worried about.

Still, though,  we can certainly give it a try. We're pretty much in trial runs right now anyway, so it can't hurt.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: firstRainbowRose on December 03, 2008, 11:19:07 PM
I'm more for the two diffrent ones.  That gives me two weeks to read through everything, comment, as well as work, and doing my own book.  I'm not a studen (yet) but I barely have enough time as it is (as you can tell by the lack of comments)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 03, 2008, 11:26:21 PM
Yeah, same here, for the reading...I've read one work that was sent to me. I plan to read the others, but I'm in the last 1 1/2 weeks of school, so I've gotta keep up with that as well.

It doesn't hurt to try it out....There's a good chance it won't work (with the reading and reviewing, anyway), and if it doesn't, we can always switch back to two per month. And then we'll know that 4 just doesn't work...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 03, 2008, 11:29:43 PM
That's pretty much what I was thinking, Wilson.

I started a new thread for this discussion because I wasn't sure people were still following this thread, and I wanted to make sure everybody saw it and got their two  cents in before we make any decisions.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 04, 2008, 05:26:11 AM
Try having a full time job plus attending a class!

I've managed to read over half the submissions, and comment on them as well. But I don't think I can keep up this reading/critiquing pass on a weekly basis.

And if some folks have all that extra time, they should spend it writing!!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jjb on December 04, 2008, 05:29:45 AM

And if some folks have all that extra time, they should spend it writing!!

Which is kind of the point of doing more submissions.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 04, 2008, 05:46:54 AM
Try having a full time job plus attending a class!

I've managed to read over half the submissions, and comment on them as well. But I don't think I can keep up this reading/critiquing pass on a weekly basis.

And if some folks have all that extra time, they should spend it writing!!

Everyone else puts me to shame. I haven't looked at a single piece yet. Soon... soon I shall...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 04, 2008, 07:22:07 AM
Don't know why this was running through my brain:

"The first rule of write club is that you don't talk about write club. The second rule of write club is that you don't talk about write club. The third rule -- if this is your first night at write club, you have to write!"
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 04, 2008, 07:22:48 AM
HAHA!

We should make that our slogan.

<3
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Manyang on December 04, 2008, 09:16:02 AM
I'm only finding time to read up on the forums now.
I'd like to request a place on the readers list for the time being please. Everything I've written in the past year is in Dutch and although I'm quite keen to see where I stand with my English work I will need some time to make a decent translation.
That said my time is currently being filled by a 100k MS which was supposed to end up at 200k but hasn't reached the halfway point of the story yet  :-\ Taming that has priority at the moment.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 04, 2008, 09:24:45 AM
Sure, done.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on December 04, 2008, 11:07:25 AM
Everyone else puts me to shame. I haven't looked at a single piece yet. Soon... soon I shall...
Not everyone else... by tomorrow evening I'll have done most of what bogged me down these last two weeks, though, and then there'll be only the writing of one short essay standing between me and all those shiny submissions... 'bout time.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 04, 2008, 10:59:21 PM
Haha. No worries. I've been letting all those shiny submissions get between me and my assignments, because I'm a bad girl...

Speaking of which, I have an essay due - well wouldya look at that - today!

I'd better get started. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 04, 2008, 11:06:11 PM
Ah well lets not feel bad about not contributing. Honestly I have read two of the submissions so far but I have yet to comment. I didn't submit anything AND I am trying this writing thing out for the first time and it turns out that it isn't as easy as some might think. I hope you are prepaired for the next submission date where you get to possibly read what I put out. I could be quite scary.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 04, 2008, 11:14:15 PM
New to writing, and you're still brave enough to join us? Good for you. :)

I concur, though,  if you haven't had time to contribute yet, you haven't had time. We understand. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 05, 2008, 12:25:40 AM
Yeah well I figured I like reading enough and I talk about it enough . I spend enough time here with you crazy people theorizing and debating that I might as well try it out. I have plenty of ideas going around in my head so I think I can spare some. We shall see, I have something in the works right now and once we figure out this submission thing I might be ready to submit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Tamyrlin on December 05, 2008, 06:41:19 AM


I may not always submit when it's my turn.  I'm still pretty new at writing but I am interested in being a part of a place where someone can give me some feedback.  I'm always willing to read though and give my thoughts.  :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 06, 2008, 08:53:27 PM
Got you. I won't ask you about submission dates until we decide what we're doing. You can weigh in on that thread if you want.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 12, 2008, 04:10:00 AM


Okay, so I have a completed fantasy novel I need help editing, so my friend, Kendra or Lil Wilson, recommended I go here. I am not very blog/forum thread savy, and am easily confused, but I am working on it. I know you are working on putting up a new system, but I can submit/read anytime you can work me in. Thank you!

Jacque/Frog
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 12, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
Oh well if little_wilson told you to join us then forget it. . .   


Im kidding, welcome. We are happy to have you here and I look forward to reading your submissions.


Tell your buddy wilson that I am ready to duel any time and any place.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 12, 2008, 04:54:08 PM
You are such a punk....

And I'm ready too. I've been ready for the last two days. I'm just waiting on you. ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 12, 2008, 08:59:19 PM
I told you (Wilson) that the internet was a scary and dangerous place.   I'm just feeling the love already... ;)
I'll hold him, you punch...or not. (name that movie!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 12, 2008, 09:03:26 PM
Haha. Yes, this is how we show affection.

You can submit on the fifteenth if you want, Frog, along with those of us who are already submitting. If you'd rather wait, I'll let you know once we figure out what we're doing.

Tamyrlin (I spelled that correctly, right?) the same goes for you. I know we probably seem a little disorganized; it's only 'cause we're brand new.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 12, 2008, 09:56:54 PM
Okay, will do. Thank you!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 13, 2008, 01:20:06 AM
Hey no holding thats not fair.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 13, 2008, 01:21:30 AM
You're a tough-butt squad leader. I'm sure you can take it. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 13, 2008, 01:24:42 AM

Good call, your right Silk "Never show weakness". Go ahead hold me down I dont mind.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 13, 2008, 02:35:42 AM
*Throws yellow flag*

"HOLDING! Roughing the writer. Three paragraph penalty. First chapter!"
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 13, 2008, 03:27:19 AM
Frog--the movie is Mulan. Great movie. Love it.....Now I want to watch it...

Holding is PERFECTLY fair. With your height, it's not like it would make much of a difference. Frog really isn't that much taller than me...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on December 13, 2008, 05:22:05 AM
*Throws yellow flag*

"HOLDING! Roughing the writer. Three paragraph penalty. First chapter!"

Lmao!   :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Tamyrlin on December 13, 2008, 07:21:04 AM
I will probably sit this one out.  I have about 2,000 words right now, but I'd like to finish the chapter I am on before I send it and the short prologue in.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 13, 2008, 07:56:23 AM
Wilson: He could stand on your shoulders?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 13, 2008, 06:14:00 PM
He? You mean me? I am definitely a female frog (frog, not dog, though we can debate that later if you feel so inclined) :)
Thank you for getting the quote, Wilson. Full points to you. Before you ask, I’m not sure how you can redeem them…but you have my permission to watch the movie anyway.
I am little offended that no one seems to think I am capable of cyberly holding someone’s hands behind their back long enough for Wilson to punch them except for the person that yellow carded me… (Do you think that will show up on my permanent record?)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 13, 2008, 06:20:42 PM
(Do you think that will show up on my permanent record?)

Only if they include the cover sheet on the TPS report.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 13, 2008, 06:34:32 PM
Oh good. No one ever remembers that...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on December 13, 2008, 06:52:24 PM
Where's my stapler?  :-\
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 13, 2008, 07:22:04 PM
Oh this is fun. I have a feeling that we have begun to hijack this thread. It feels like its going the way of the Titles thread. I dont mind.

I hope you dont have the ability to hold me down, I would feel inadequate if one female held me down while another beat me. Thats just me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 13, 2008, 07:51:29 PM
Sorry Frog. I guess I've been mistaken for male one too many times online, and am now doing it to other people?

Monsta: Women can be pretty vicious creatures. I wouldn't feel too bad about it. ~^
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 13, 2008, 09:55:41 PM
Maybe he feels the same way about women as he does about short people....Or maybe it's just the combination of the two....If I was a tall guy, I'd probably feel humiliated if two short girls beat me up, too....But alas, I'm in the "short girl" category, so I don't have to worry about that kind of humiliation. ;D

Ah, the joys of being mistaken for a guy online....I'm with Silk. Happened to me a lot. I don't really care anymore. In fact, I think it's kinda funny....like that duel. Wasn't me who pointed out Jade's error....

And back to the beating....Frog very well could hold you down. At least, I hope she can, because I don't think I'd be very successful beating on you if your arms were free. It could be somewhat problematic....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 13, 2008, 10:02:00 PM
If two fine ladies threatened to accost me, I would have to play the gentleman and surrender...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on December 13, 2008, 10:50:12 PM
Wait, there are women on the internet? :o
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 14, 2008, 12:43:44 AM
Hahahaha, Flo that was awesome.

Its not that I have a problem with women or short people. Its more of a pride thing. If two women came at me and one held me while the other beat me I might as well have that procedure done that Pare is thinking of over in the Titles thread.

Although it may be fun to be accosted by two women for a little while, the end result might not be too nice. And who's a gentlemen these days. I would probably run.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on December 14, 2008, 12:47:56 AM
hey, I like to be accosted, it can be fun! :o
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 14, 2008, 12:58:39 AM
I don't think the original intent of the accosting was to be fun....But that could be easily changed.

I thought you said nothing would be worth getting a gender change? Or is being beaten up by two girls the one thing that is?

Ya know, gentlemen aren't completely extinct. Sure, they're a dying race but....that can be changed too.

And Monsta, are you still up for dueling?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 14, 2008, 03:08:22 AM
And another obscure quote that pretty much sums up this experience for me: Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them. (yes, I am always quoting movies, you may just have to get used to it.)
So yeah, I would never 'accost' a gentlemen but if you are going to a punk... I make no promises.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on December 14, 2008, 04:43:52 AM
Fair fights?! Ha! There is utterly no excuse in a fair fight.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 14, 2008, 07:54:25 AM
Frog, I considered writing a conversation between to people solely in movie quotes. Sound like a nifty idea at first, but then sounds really tedious and boring in fact.

"You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in ruttin' command here. Now we're finishing this deal."

Yeah, I too tend to use a lot of quotes.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 14, 2008, 08:08:51 AM
I do too, except my quotes are song lyrics not movie quotes.  ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on December 14, 2008, 12:06:42 PM
I don't, because I can never remember any that are of any use, ever.

"These are not the droids you're looking for."

...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 14, 2008, 07:41:34 PM
Occasionally I'll quote movies....More often, though, I will make references. And most of the time, those references are to Star Wars....Star Wars rocks.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 14, 2008, 07:49:32 PM
Is this the point where I again reinforce the notion that I'm terribly old by saying 'yeah, I remember seeing Star Wars in the theater...'
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 14, 2008, 07:51:23 PM
But that doesn't really work, because they re-aired in theatre before Phantom Menace came out....I know, because my brother is a HUGE Star Wars freak, and he was ecstatic that he'd get to see them in theatres.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 14, 2008, 07:57:10 PM
I saw Star Wars when it came out in theatre. The first time.

In fact I saw the original (I remember this 'cause I was iffy about seeing the new Star Wars because of it) but I'm pretty sure that wasn't in theatre.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 14, 2008, 08:04:57 PM
Silk--Are you referring to The Phantom Menace as the Star Wars you saw in theatre the first time? Because I'm positive you're not old enough to have seen the Original Trilogy in theatre the first time (New Hope--1977, Empire Strikes Back--1980, Return of the Jedi--1983).

You didn't like the original? Sad. I think the Original Trilogy is by far the best. Phantom Menace is okay. Attack of the Clones? Meh. Revenge of the Sith? Story is okay, acting (Hayden in particular) was terrible  :(  Original Trilogy=love. Empire Strikes Back=more love.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 14, 2008, 08:08:43 PM
I don't really remember, but - I seem to recall there being the original trilogy, and then later there was a remake of the same three Star Wars movies - yes? Or am I off on this one? Because it seems to me that the latter was what I saw in theatres.

I could be totally out to lunch on this one. I don't know.

And I think maybe I didn't like the original trilogy when I saw it because aside from the fact that I've always been skeptical of movies and television shows, I was young and the other Star Wars seemed flashier. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 14, 2008, 08:18:06 PM
The Original Trilogy is composed of Episodes IV, V, and VI. They came out first, in the years I referenced before--1977-1983. The newer trilogy is composed of Episodes I, II, and III. This trilogy is flashier. George Lucas wanted better special effects for the first 3, so he saved them for later instead of making them around the time of the other 3.

So the newer ones aren't remakes, they're just a continuation of the same story (or rather, a prequel to the older story).

And I agree, the special effects of I-III are pretty sweet. But the story of IV-VI is so much better, not to mention the dialogue. You want to hear lame dialogue, go turn on Attack of the Clones and find a scene with Hayden and Natalie alone....Pathetic. Han and Leia had dialogue that was SO much  better.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 14, 2008, 08:27:27 PM
Oh, I can't stand I-III. Insipid garbage.

I'm pretty sure that there was also a remake of IV, V, and VI. I also remember seeing one of those behind-the-scenes videos on the differences between the two, and the technology that was used in the remakes.

Edit: Or maybe there wasn't, I don't know. I can't seem to find anything on it. Anyway, I didn't see I or II in theatres, and I'm still not sure why I went to see III...

I guess I saw the trilogy when it re-aired, then.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 15, 2008, 01:22:51 AM
Oh, I know what you're talking about now. No, it wasn't remakes of them, but there are special edition ones for them. I can't remember everything that they fixed between the older and the special editions.

I actually really liked III. Not as much as the Originals, but it's probably my favorite out of the first ones. Of course, I don't think I've seen it since I watched it in theatres, and I watched it at the midnight showing, so maybe I liked it so much because I was so tired....Or maybe it was the people I was watching it with...I don't know.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 15, 2008, 06:37:58 AM
*ahem* Okay, children, allow me to clarify...

I saw Star Wars in its original Han-Shot-First theatrical release in 1977.  Same with Empire in 1980 abd Jedi in 1983.

Push comes to shove, I say Bedknobs and Broomsticks in its orignal theatrical relase. So ponder that!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 15, 2008, 07:05:05 AM
Oh, I knew what you meant when I said that...I was just being a brat. :P Bratiness aside, though. Wow. I kind of wish I'd been able to see all three of those in the original release...if only there was a time machine (although I don't think I would use it to go back and watch those movies if there were. I would hope I'd find something better to use it for...).

And Bedknobs and Broomsticks? Really? Interesting. I had to go check on imdb to see when that released. 1971....It's been so long since I've seen that movie. I think I'm gonna go search through all our VHS's sometime this week and find it. It could be a long search... ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 15, 2008, 08:34:26 AM
Okay, I get it. I must have seen the special edition somewhere, or something, and then seen Star Wars when it re-aired in theatres before the prequels came out... Or something?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Manyang on December 15, 2008, 09:42:04 AM
They also remasterred the original trilogy, you might have seen that.

So then the real question is; did Han Solo shoot first?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 15, 2008, 10:05:09 AM
That's it! That's what I saw! Mystery solved!

...

Now I want to go watch Star Wars again...

Haha. Well, I've obviously proved that I know pretty much nothing about Star Wars. So, I dunno: did Han Solo shoot first?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Manyang on December 15, 2008, 10:27:54 AM
In the original he did shoot first, in the remasterred edition they had the other guy (can't remember his name right now) shoot aswell.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on December 15, 2008, 11:35:20 AM
Han shot first, end of discussion. Claiming that Greedo so much as had a twitch in his trigger finger is heresy. Heresy, I say! >:(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 15, 2008, 05:19:53 PM
Yes, Han shot first.

And strange as it sounds, I miss the original Deathstar explosion. The donut they changed it to in the remaster is actually less believable than the original. At least to me. Anf for nearly 20 years that was the way the explosion looked. Then some guy with pretensions of greatness thought he could do better than his younger self...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 15, 2008, 07:04:52 PM
Wow. Apparently I haven't watched the remastered ones very often. I don't think we have a copy of those in my house, because I didn't know there even was an argument about whether Han shot first. In the version I always see, Greedo didn't stand a chance....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on December 15, 2008, 09:31:24 PM
In the remastered ones they shoot simultaneously, with Greedo's shot straying so far from its target that he probably wouldn't even have managed to graduate from stormtrooper academy. They also added that horrible scene with Han and Jabba in front of the Falcon, and did various silly things like change the colour of Luke's lightsabre.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 15, 2008, 09:46:11 PM
Heh. I remember that stupid scene with Jabba. I guess it was so bad that it kinda stuck with me, regardless of the few times I've seen the remastered ones....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on December 15, 2008, 10:05:26 PM
I can't say how exactly this happened, but somehow I just ended up on a site full of page-long reviews on Star Wars replicas, discussing in detail the differences between stormtrooper helmets made by various people. Problem is, now I want one of those.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Manyang on December 16, 2008, 07:40:37 AM
Stormtrooper helms....

I just felt my inner geek highfive himself..
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on December 16, 2008, 08:13:39 AM
This is an inappropriate use of the this thread... <.<

Maybe start one called 'Random Discussions'?

Trust me, I'm all one for thread-jacking at a moments notice, but some un-godly number of posts ago, I believe this was a discussion on Emails for, and dates of, submissions - both of which remain relevant as long as we're getting new people.

I officially thread-jack your jacked thread. ^ ^
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 16, 2008, 08:19:45 AM
Eh, I don't really see it as an issue. Someone new comes along, they'll post their email here (as Frog did) and BOOM! Back on topic.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 16, 2008, 08:08:33 PM
Isn't this pretty much the same thing we did with the Your Background thread? Only with that one it was discussion on The Wedding? And the lead up to it? Kind of?....It's only fair that we do it with another thread. Otherwise, the one thread we did it to will feel like it's specialer than the others... ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on December 16, 2008, 08:32:04 PM
I could see background getting out of hand, though. It's more or less of our introduction thread, and in all of our crazy bat-crap looney greetings are bound to throw stuff off the tracks and into crazy-crazy-chaosland.

Seriously, not trying to be a wet blanket, but utility threads should stay utility threads, lest we soon have no utility threads to use when utility is needed. ^ ^
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: spejoku on December 18, 2008, 02:15:11 AM
hey, when's the next submission dates?  January first and 15th?

Did we already discuss whether or not we could send things in early here?  I have another story that would be nice to get critiqued, but it can wait. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 18, 2008, 03:54:17 AM
There was some discussion here (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6283.0) but I don't think we ever decided concretely on what we were doing.

I was going to revive that thread in a day or two to see what people wanted to do next time, or if we were just going to stick with  what we did this time. For the current round of submissions, yes, we just let everybody submit who wanted to.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 25, 2008, 05:46:47 AM
I would like to submit on Monday. I should be all ready with my re-writing and everything to submit by then.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 25, 2008, 05:56:40 AM
Me too! :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 25, 2008, 06:58:45 AM
I am submitting on Monday :D

(Merry Christmas!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 25, 2008, 07:15:19 AM
I'll update the original post of this thread as people "apply". If you post you're still not listed in a day or two, give me a poke via PM.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on December 25, 2008, 07:51:28 AM
I'd like to do a Monday submission. I'm sending out Chapter 2, did we decide what to do about synopses?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 25, 2008, 07:52:44 AM
Do something. Anything you want, but do something. It could be a sentence, or you could resend your entire first chapter. Either way.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 25, 2008, 07:59:43 AM
I'd better hop on the band wagon. Sign me up for Monday. I've got plenty o'yarn to tell.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 25, 2008, 08:18:35 AM
Oh, just as a warning, my submission will be a re-submission of the Prologue, and Chapter 1....I'm also sending Chapter 2 with it just for some more new material (or at least so it seems like I'm getting somewhere....). This may put the word count somewhat high. I apologize for this. But I don't apologize too much, because this action has been sanctioned by one of our esteemed moderators.... :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 25, 2008, 09:17:48 AM
Wilson is extrapolating. I made a suggestion. ::)

Unles Chaos sanctioned it somewhere and I missed it...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 25, 2008, 09:20:18 AM
Yes. Chaos sanctioned it. Last night. On AIM.....But I figure if you'd been there, you would've sanctioned it as well, so really I'm in a safe position....I think.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 25, 2008, 10:35:22 AM
I probably would have. That doesn't prevent other people from throwing things at you, though.

I figure, it's a free country(ies), right?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 25, 2008, 05:51:10 PM
I did sanction it, with all of my mystical powers. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 25, 2008, 07:27:16 PM
Hmmm. Well, I guess if people throw things at me, I'll just duck behind one of you two then. I mean, with both of your sanctioning of it, it puts you in the line of fire as well.....I think I'll duck behind Chaos and the mystical powers. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 25, 2008, 07:37:05 PM
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 25, 2008, 07:43:58 PM
Karl, were you trying to sound like Han Solo there, or was that accidental?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on December 26, 2008, 01:40:58 AM
I'm sure that was entirely accidental and not at all a direct quote. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 26, 2008, 02:24:50 AM
The fact that it might not be a quote doesn't exclude it being deliberate.

(Or vice versa, come to think of it...)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 26, 2008, 03:02:32 AM
Now that I read it over again, I think it is a direct quote. I just don't know where it is in the movies. But it sounds way too much like Han for it to be coincidental....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 26, 2008, 04:45:49 AM
It's in StarWars: A New Hope; when Han is watching Luke practice his lightsaber and the flying ball zaps him. >:(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 26, 2008, 04:46:43 AM
OH! That's right. I remember now.....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 26, 2008, 04:50:52 AM
Sweet  :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 26, 2008, 05:50:57 AM
I am flattered that you think I sound like Han Solo. Especially when I'm delivering his lines!

Your lack of [geek reference knowledge] is disturbing...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on December 26, 2008, 05:53:05 AM
If its not too late I would also like to submit on Monday.

Edit:  Sorry, I just read that I have until Sat.  Oh well, put me down anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on December 26, 2008, 03:36:37 PM
If its not too late I would also like to submit on Monday.

same.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Yusuke on December 27, 2008, 06:31:32 PM
Okay, let's see if I'm doing this right here...

 
I would like to submit on Monday, assuming it's still possible o_O.

Also, I'm a long time friend of Chaos's (Chaos2651), so I'm not just gonna up and poof here =P.  He's gone through a bunch of the details over AIM with me already, which means I'm pretty sure I think I know what I'm doing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 27, 2008, 06:49:53 PM
Write. Submit. Endure critiques. Repeat as needed.

That pretty much sums it up.

Welcome, Yusuke! Any friend of Chaos should be watched closely is a friend of ours!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 27, 2008, 07:03:45 PM
Your lack of [geek reference knowledge] is disturbing...

So close to a perfect xkcd reference. Alas...

Okay, let's see if I'm doing this right here...


I would like to submit on Monday, assuming it's still possible o_O.

Also, I'm a long time friend of Chaos's (Chaos2651), so I'm not just gonna up and poof here =P.  He's gone through a bunch of the details over AIM with me already, which means I'm pretty sure I think I know what I'm doing.

I'm... the only Chaos here... lol.

Yes. You do know what you are doing. Just keep listening to the quiet, moderately Satanic whispers in the back of your brain, saying things like "Come to Reading Excuses... now go fetch me a Dr. Pepper!" It certainly won't bring you to insanity.

...I've said too much.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 27, 2008, 07:48:42 PM
*Grins* I'd say Karl got it about right.

Welcome Yusuke. I'll add you to the email list and to the submission dates for this Monday.  I believe I've got everybody else, too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 27, 2008, 08:54:43 PM
Raethe... you know that Monday is December 29th, not the 28th, right? Because I think you got the thing on the front page wrong ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 27, 2008, 10:53:05 PM
I actually did know that, 'cause it's my friend's birthday that day. Not quite sure how I managed to get that wrong.

Ah well. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 27, 2008, 10:57:49 PM
I actually did know that, 'cause it's my friend's birthday that day. Not quite sure how I managed to get that wrong.

Ah well. ::)

It was Shiro.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 27, 2008, 11:19:00 PM
Darn cats.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 27, 2008, 11:23:45 PM
I don't think Karl should've crossed out the other thing he said....I mean. Chaos is the Lord Ruler, is he not? Who knows what he's done to his friends.....:P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 27, 2008, 11:48:12 PM
Shh. We can't let Chaos know we're onto him!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 27, 2008, 11:51:31 PM
Oops. My bad....*uses Jedi mind powers to make Chaos forget he ever read anything to support an opposing faction that may or may not be named 'The Woodland Coalition'*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on December 28, 2008, 12:23:32 AM
*watches the conspirators from the shadows;* *jumps off a building to report to the Lord Ruler*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 28, 2008, 12:35:47 AM
Hmm. Obviously my Jedi powers don't work on the Lord Ruler's flunkies. Well. That's okay. My grasp on all things Force shall be tested when said flunkie reports to TLR. Hopefully, the Lord Ruler will forget he heard anything as well as read anything.....

Or maybe the flunkie's iron, steel, and pewter will disappear and he'll plummet to the ground before reaching TLR..... :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on December 28, 2008, 03:06:53 AM
Who Watches the Watchers?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 28, 2008, 03:18:56 AM
Big Brother?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on December 28, 2008, 03:33:30 AM
ahhhhhhhhhhh *wham!* ouch...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 28, 2008, 06:22:37 AM
And with the death of so loyal a flunkie, the Lord Ruler remains blissfully ignorant of the conspiracy against him.....Or at least, it's blissful for the conspirators. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 28, 2008, 07:16:49 AM
You forget the Lord Ruler's flawless copperminds and the days when the rebellion first began... Oh yes, he remembers those days...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 28, 2008, 07:28:46 AM
*shrugs* If Vin could take care of those copperminds, I'm sure our Famous Squad Leader can....Not to volunteer him for anything without his permission, but I'm sure he wouldn't be opposed to this....I mean, now that he's higher than you and all ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on December 29, 2008, 05:45:30 PM
I'm no Vin but that's not to say that I wouldn't be willing to give it a shot. I mean Chaos can challenge me if he dares but I don't think it wise seeing how "I am a higher level". . .  sound familiar?? Any way I do believe that I attempted to introduce our friend Chaos to dueling but failed in getting him involved. I would love nothing more than to meet him in the ring. We would probably have to meet in the Red Ring though for what I plan on doing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 29, 2008, 08:39:33 PM
Haha. That's a duel I would pay to see...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: spejoku on December 30, 2008, 05:30:22 AM
sorry to interrupt, but what did we decide for the submission things? twice a month or on a saturday you sign up for?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on December 30, 2008, 05:32:41 AM
Sign-ups for Monday submissions....At least, I think we're sticking with Monday submissions.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 30, 2008, 05:45:13 AM
That's what we've decided for now. We might stick with it, or we might not. We're still experimenting.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: spejoku on December 30, 2008, 05:03:05 PM
so what do we do to sign up and when do we need to sign up by? (I'm guessing thursday)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 30, 2008, 08:34:38 PM
Sign up by Saturday of a week for submission on Monday.

That's assuming, of course, that everyone wants to stick with this system for at least another week to see how it goes?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on December 30, 2008, 10:25:44 PM
I like it. The days I originally threw out were just kind of the first thing that popped in my head to get the point across.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 01, 2009, 12:45:27 AM
so what do we do to sign up and when do we need to sign up by? (I'm guessing thursday)

And to sign up, you just post in this topic saying, "Hey, I want to submit this week".
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on January 01, 2009, 07:14:43 AM
And here I thought submission required goat leggings, some chicken gizzards and some Zamphir pan flute music?!?

Or was that latex pants and a riding crop?! I always get them comfused!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 01, 2009, 07:34:06 AM
Oh! Right. I forgot that whole "blood sacrifice" thing you needed.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: spejoku on January 01, 2009, 07:49:23 PM
Then I wanna submit this week then, and all I got are some mutilated stick figures.  Is that okay?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 01, 2009, 10:55:42 PM
As long as they bleed stick blood, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 02, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Oh, blood. Blood is fun. Blood reminds me of dueling. Speaking of which:

I do believe that I attempted to introduce our friend Chaos to dueling but failed in getting him involved. I would love nothing more than to meet him in the ring. We would probably have to meet in the Red Ring though for what I plan on doing.

Monsta, this may be possible now. I introduced him to dueling. It was fun. You can thank me later, if you so choose.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: M on January 02, 2009, 07:33:27 AM
I'm just barely getting back from the Holiday break and still haven't read any submissions (BUT I WILL!!). 

Nevertheless, please sign me up for the next submission date.   ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 02, 2009, 07:57:23 AM
Normally Raethe, this would be where I would take initiative and edit the first post to put these two people down, but then I realized I don't have that mod power ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 02, 2009, 08:09:59 AM
Hmm. Well, editing forum posts is exactly the sort of thing I do when I should be doing other stuff (you know, like actually writing) so I guess we're in luck.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 02, 2009, 08:17:20 AM
Whoever said procrastination didn't have use obviously didn't know what they were talking about. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 02, 2009, 07:57:34 PM
The twin virtues of procrastination and delegation are the signs of a good leader Chaos.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 02, 2009, 09:37:38 PM
That's why I'm the Lord Ruler.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on January 02, 2009, 09:50:23 PM
That is also why you are the bain of my existence! >:(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 02, 2009, 09:56:00 PM
You mean "bane", right? Not "bain".
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: GreenMonsta on January 02, 2009, 11:40:01 PM
Damn you Chaos and your corrections. Yes I mean bane, and you have only displayed it more with that statement.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 02, 2009, 11:58:03 PM
Lord Ruler = Grammar Nazi
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 03, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
I guess we should try this method of submitting a few more times, but I am not sure it's actually working all that well.    This round of submissions, seven people submitted. The number of critiques on each manuscript ranged from 2-5, and total posts from 4-7. That is a significant drop from the round before, when it looks like around 10 people submitted and the number of total replies ranged from 14-20.

This week, so far only 2 people have said they plan to submit. It doesn't take rocket science to guess that they won't get a whole lot of critiques...

Also, its impossible to tell whether some of those not critiquing are not reading, as well. When they do try to critique later on, their ability to make informed observations is limited, because they won't know what is going on in the story.

Basically my point is, we need a way to up the number of critiques. Whether we do that by finding a way to up the number of submissions, or by simply getting more people to write down their thoughts even when it isn't their turn to critique, I don't know. I'm not offering a plan right now, just pointing out we might need one.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on January 03, 2009, 01:04:11 AM
I for one spent the first two rounds more or less deciding which of the stories appealed to me, which of them I'd probably pick up in a bookstore from the general impression, and those I intend to at the very least always read, and preferably always critique as well. I suppose I'm not the only one doing this, so I expect that the number of critiques will stabilise at this level.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 03, 2009, 01:38:07 AM
*sigh* maybe its just me and my conscientious urge to comment on everything. I don't know, I could be overreacting here. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 03, 2009, 01:47:16 AM
If we don't get enough people willing to submit in any given week, we can always push that submission back to the following week. I'm not all that concerned about how many people submit per cycle, but am also worried about people getting a good number of crits each time.

Reaves, I think your concerns are going to come up with this system or the "anyone who wants to can submit on date X" system - either way, it's just a lot of material to deal with.  I think our first system with the two monthly submission dates would be the most reasonable in terms of people being able to get a good range of feedback and not being overwhelmed with reading material, but as we've also pointed out, it will also take a good long time for anyone to get their novel critiqued that way.

We're just going to have to experiment until we find a happy medium, I think - whatever is the best compromise.

Perhaps we could also consider our split submission dates (like the first submission) and up our word count guidelines. That way people would have a couple of weeks to deal with the material, and they could push more material through at once. Of course, then we'd still be reading more, so it might be six of one, half a dozen of another...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on January 03, 2009, 02:22:48 AM
To give others the benefit of the doubt, it could just be the Holiday's.  At least I hope so.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on January 03, 2009, 03:09:23 AM
Christmas/New Years pretty much killed my past three weeks, which is why I haven't gotten much out in the way of critiques. Honestly, I don't remember being conscious for saying I was going to submit, but thankfully I was a few chapters ahead from my plane ride...

I'm sure the crit count will up soon, just breathe ^ ^.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 03, 2009, 04:32:16 AM
I wouldn't count on the passing of the holidays fixing everything. Some of us will have more time after they're gone; some of us will have decidedly less.

I still say we give it some time before we go getting too worried about it, though. We're also bound to have highs and lows in terms of who submits and critiques each time - this could just be one of those. Let's not get too concerned until we've figured out if it's going to be a consistent problem or a one-time thing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 03, 2009, 04:38:37 AM
Ideally, Yusuke should be able to submit on Monday, but I haven't spoken to him since he submitted. So I'm pretty sure that's up to three :P

I, as always, side on the side of caution. We will just see how this goes. Wait and see, wait and see.

Besides, there is no explicit critique deadline. There's no reason to believe that these works won't get more critiques later.

So let's just wait and see. I know once my holiday break is over on the 13th, I will probably have less time, but I will strive to plan my next semester to include RE. And my own writing ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 03, 2009, 06:45:24 PM
Well, I thought about giving you guys a break, but since it’s Saturday and very few people have signed up, I might as well keep going. I have tons of stuff that is in desperate need of whatever help people are willing to offer, after all.
Sign me up please!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Yusuke on January 04, 2009, 06:07:52 AM
My apologies for not getting to the critiquing earlier in the week >.<;.  I just got done with my critique of Crashers, and Chaos said I really didn't need to do anymore.  However, I imagine I'll read CrystalHeart, since it's really sounding interesting to me so far.  Although, I've only read a little of it, so its critique will have to wait a little bit if that's alright.

Well, I guess I'm supposed to sign up to submit this week?  Guess I'll try Episode Five of Ascension, now that people should know it's not a book and will be an anime/manga lol.  It's really nice to get opinions like this, so I hope this "Reading Submission" thingy isn't closed down x_x;.  I find it to be exceptionally useful...

Chaos- Oh come on, you totally know I always come through in the end =D! lol

Anyways, sign me up to submit, assuming it's not too late?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 04, 2009, 07:29:01 AM
You're good, I'll sign you up. (Still Saturday by my clock. ;) Not that I can see us being too stringent about that as long as we don't have everybody in the group clamouring for a spot.) And don't worry if you're a bit behind on the critiques - heck, I haven't even opened any of the emails yet. (But I will. Promise.)

I don't imagine we have to worry about us shutting down either. Everyone seems to be finding it worthwhile so far - I know I'm certainly enjoying myself - we're just going through some growing pains, is all. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hayley on January 04, 2009, 09:35:54 PM
Apologies, too, on the non-critting front these last two! Holidays = madness and far too much travelling around the country. Plus I've not had my laptop this last week. Planning catch up this week admist essay writing though!

If possible (I'm fully aware it's Sunday...) can I submit tomorrow please?

If not, just let me know, and will put it back til next week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 04, 2009, 10:25:57 PM
It's not exactly like we have a full lineup, so sure, you're in.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 04, 2009, 11:34:39 PM
Ostensibly, you could probably get away with submitting without even signing up :P

Not that I'm giving you any ideas.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hayley on January 04, 2009, 11:49:47 PM
And get on her wrong side for not being on 'the list'?

Hmmm.....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cathar on January 05, 2009, 05:45:51 AM
I'll join.



Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Manyang on January 05, 2009, 05:08:14 PM
I've been swamped by the holidays as well (Happy newyears everyone).
I can't promise to pick up at the same level as I started though. Doing a full critique takes me around three hours (reading, figuring out why I don't like things, phrasing them constructively) With 7 submissions a week coming in I don't have the time available to actually do that.
Whether that means I'll stick to short comments like today or pick one or two at random each week I don't know yet. Either way the current pace of submitting is too fast for me to keep up with.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 05, 2009, 06:20:19 PM
We have so many people in the group now, that I really don’t see it as a problem if every person can’t critique every week or you miss some submissions. I mean, I’m thrilled whenever someone takes the time to critique my stuff, but I have so much to get through that I see even getting 3 or 4 critiques as something well worth the effort and far better than my usual system (I read it, stress over every sentence w/o changing much, and then do it again, and again). I’ve been able to keep up with submissions so far, but even if that changes with holidays at a close, I plan to at least critique those that critiqued mine in the past, selfishly hoping they will continue to return the favor.  ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: M on January 05, 2009, 07:19:03 PM
I agree with Frog.  I think if we at least give 3 or 4 critiques a week, that is more than enough.  We shouldn't be expected to critique all of them.  There isn't enough time.  We would end up reading more than writing.  My goal isn't to stick with one story, but to find the submissions that don't have a lot of critiques and start there. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 05, 2009, 10:18:33 PM
I agree with Frog.  I think if we at least give 3 or 4 critiques a week, that is more than enough.  We shouldnt be expected to critique all of them.  There isn't enough time.  We would end up reading more than writing.  My goal isn't to stick with one story, but to find the submissions that don't have a lot of critiques and start there. 

Is that what you meant?  :P
I fully agree with you, we can't require people to critique every submission. If you do, great! Hopefully they'll return the favor! But don't let it impede your writing. Nobody here wants that.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 05, 2009, 11:28:24 PM
Quote
I fully agree with you, we can't require people to critique every submission. If you do, great! Hopefully they'll return the favor! But don't let it impede your writing. Nobody here wants that.
Of course not. Your own writing should always be the most important thing (I know mine is!). I just see the critiques a bit like currency and that you should put in what you hope to receive. I hope to get 3 or 4 critiques when I submit, so I strive to do at least that many myself.
But like I said, there are lots of people here, and lots of room for different interpretations.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: AvalonDreamer on January 06, 2009, 03:22:03 AM
We never intended for a system where everyone critiques everyone else, that's inefficient and doesn't scale. In the opening bits of this thread (eons ago, in RE time) all that us original conspirators asked was that you critique one or two AT LEAST, and if you had the time to go be a good neighbor, or follow up on a story you were liking especially, then go do those too.

With the current group at ~30 people, we should be fine as long as people take note of the stories being neglected and give them a little abuse (^ ^ ), as well as return to the ones that they find fascinating and give them the benefit of your scholarly knowledge. If our moderators see skewing in where critiques are being distributed (a story getting 1 review, while another has 15), then they should take action.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 08, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
Can I submit Monday oh great and noble masters? I'm finally over the nightmare time-drain known as the holidays
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 08, 2009, 10:20:09 PM
I'd also like to submit on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on January 09, 2009, 12:44:01 AM
I'd also like to submit on Monday.

I would like to as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 09, 2009, 05:13:24 PM
Kay.

Is it too early to ask how well people are keeping up with submissions?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: M on January 09, 2009, 05:48:46 PM
Do you mean, how are we doing at critiquing them or how are we at being ready to submit?

I personally can submit every week, but don't need to in order to give someone who doesn't submit often a chance.

As far as critiquing goes?  I would hope everyone can at least critique 2 to 4 submissions  a week.

 ???
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 09, 2009, 06:19:13 PM
Do you mean, how are we doing at critiquing them or how are we at being ready to submit?

I personally can submit every week, but don't need to in order to give someone who doesn't submit often a chance.

As far as critiquing goes?  I would hope everyone can at least critique 2 to 4 submissions  a week.

 ???
Wow M. That's exactly what I was thinking. Like everything. It's almost scary.... Well, anyway it goes double with me. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on January 09, 2009, 06:24:46 PM
At the moment I can say with certainty that I can critique one submission per week, two tops. Any more and it would begin to feel like a chore. I think the bi-monthly system worked a bit better.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 09, 2009, 06:53:37 PM
Well, since you're on the reading list, and haven't been submitting I would say that the fact that your even willing to do one a week is just awesome. And I don't think either of us were trying to imply that you should feel like you always have to do 2-4 week, but the fact that we have been able to do at least that many so far made us believe that we were keeping up, to answer Silk's question. And I have personally found that as I've done more of these critiques, I can do them faster and they are less intimidating. My advice is still far from perfect, but that's what you get for asking someone that is just learning herself. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: M on January 09, 2009, 06:55:36 PM
I want to agree with Flo...however...

If we all agree to at least critique 1 submission a week, with over 26 member of RE, then that should guarantee several critiques for all submissions.  We can ask everyone to try for more, but I really don't think that will be necessary.  The key will be to look for those submissions that have not been critiqued and start there.  I agree with Flo that 3 or 4 a week is kinda a pain.

Maybe you might think that will lead to less critiques, but I only got 3 critiques for my last submission.  But the 3 that I got was more beneficial than I could have imagined.  I appreciate that.  Anything else probably would be repetitive.

I say stick with the weekly submissions.  My two cents.  ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 10, 2009, 12:44:41 AM
I meant how well people were able to keep up with critiques, yes.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Pipe on January 11, 2009, 10:59:25 AM
Hello! First post here, but I would like to join the email list as well:
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 12, 2009, 11:26:55 PM
Hello Pipe! Look forward to seeing you around!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: M on January 13, 2009, 12:10:32 AM
It's probably too early for this, so forgive me if it is.  I would like to submit next Monday the 19th.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 13, 2009, 01:20:28 AM
lol if it was my decision you could submit today...We've got THREE. Only two have actually submitted so far...

...well thank god its not my decision.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on January 13, 2009, 03:07:42 AM
Oh I don't think it would be so bad.   ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 13, 2009, 08:10:01 PM
Well, everyone can feel free to laugh at me or whatever because I can't submit this week :'( I was about 2/3 done with a chapter when I asked to submit then all hell broke loose. My dorm was burglarized, the UGA network went down, and I found out my little sister is getting married on Valentine's day all one right after the other over from Thursday through Monday. Now not only is my chapter STILL only 2/3 done with the first draft, but my precious TV is gone along with one of my laptops. Someone must die.
So there it is, start laughing at me if you want, I'm going to go wollow is self-pity and plot the death of the infidel who stole my stuff.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on January 13, 2009, 08:17:04 PM
Hahahahahah- sorry. ;)

You didn't lose any important data with that laptop, I hope.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 13, 2009, 08:18:43 PM
I'm a member of the ELC, and if they start laughing, I refuse to join them.....I think your reasons for missing are sound. I forgive you (since I'm an Absolver, I can do this), and because I forgive you, no one can mess with you.....:P

And yeah, I also hope you didn't lose any important data. Cuz that would just suck (more than it already does anyway...)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 13, 2009, 08:55:36 PM
Welcome, Pipe.

M: It's not too early.

We'll let you off the hook without laughing this time, wcarter. I'll join the others in expressing sympathy/hope that you didn't lose anything valuable.

Back to work for me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 13, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
incluing my tv and laptop, $1400 worth of stuff was stolen out of my room, my suitemate's audiomixer was stolen out of his. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 13, 2009, 11:00:59 PM
wow, that really sucks.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on January 13, 2009, 11:47:07 PM
wow, that really sucks.

Took the words right out of my mouth.  Ouch! :o

Do you have renters ins.?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 14, 2009, 12:03:28 AM
I do have insurance and more importantly, I have the serial number off the box the TV came with that the burglar(s) was too stupid to steal. I was able to give it to the police so now if it shows up in a pawn shop I'll get it back.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on January 14, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Stupid infidels are a gift.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 14, 2009, 12:22:48 AM
That's really sad. I don't see why anyone would laugh at you missing your submit on that one... If you need any help plotting death, doom and destruction on a certain individual, just let me know. >:(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 15, 2009, 04:54:55 PM
Frog is so encouraging, isn't she? ::)

Reaves - got you. Jason, you're welcome to submit this Monday if you want.

Though I'mma nudge any further discussion over to the Email Lists thread, just so we have it all in one place.

Sorry, I just got done critiquing for Ben when I wrote that and was feeling particularly vicious for whatever reason.... Well, anyway, you all can give it back to me later because I have something to submit on Monday too. Put me on the list please. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: JoseB on January 16, 2009, 11:41:26 PM
I would like to ask to be put on the email list (with the caveats, as explained in my introduction post, that although I can read English, the material I am writing is -so far- in Spanish and I would have to translate it first if it has to go to someone who doesn't speak Spanish) :)

My email:

All the best!

JoseB
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: M on January 20, 2009, 02:45:15 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know why I didn't submit this week.  My wife developed a serious case of pneumonia and due to her weakend immune system from the chemotherapy, she was admitted into the hospital.  I have been by her side since Friday and up until now have not been near a computer.  I apologize for missing my submission date, but I know you all are very understanding. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 20, 2009, 04:46:22 PM
Well, your excuse is AT LEAST as good as mine was a couple weeks back. I have a writing group at UGA now that is looking at some of my work so I will probably only be once every two weeks or so myself. I hope she feels better soon and be sure  that you get some rest too. You won't do her any good by becoming ill yourself
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 22, 2009, 12:23:08 AM
Alright. I have done some serious work on chapter six and have a good feeling about it. I think I'll be ready to submit come monday.
Also, just wanted to let everyone know that I really want to continue reading their stories. Raethe's Passage to Zero...Spejoku's Nightlife...Wcarter's Granite Sunrise...actually, pretty much all of them. I'd love to see them again!!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on January 22, 2009, 12:37:17 AM
If it's ok I'd like to submit Monday as well. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 22, 2009, 02:51:43 AM
chapter one of granite sunrise is getting critiqued by my English 3800 class, but I guess I can send a copy to everyone here monday if that's alright. This time I know I'll be able to since it's already done and the odds of my room getting burglarized again are...well hopefully quite small.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 22, 2009, 03:44:10 AM
Reaves, wcarter, and Ben for Monday. Is that right?

(Well,  Passage To Zero was intended as a complete story. Obviously I haven't accomplished that yet but it's not that there's any "more" of it per se. I may well throw some revisions at you guys somewhere down the line, but it'll be a while before I get to it... I am, however, writing this book. In fact, I'm writing two!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on January 24, 2009, 09:29:04 PM
Um...okay...there's a lot of information in Reading Excuses...so, I've temporarily suspended my attempt to "catch up" in order to sign up instead.

I'm new here...Reaves generously told me about the group...and I've read the submission guidlines and as many rules as I can find...and it seems I simply need to submit an email address and a request to be added...?

So...here you go...



If possible, I would like to sign up to both read/review and submit.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 24, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
Yes. And you're welcome to submit this Monday, if you like.

If you'd rather wait until next week (or whenever) that's fine as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 24, 2009, 10:00:58 PM
Welcome to the mad-house darkcards. For the nominal fee of your eternal soul we can have one of our lovely mods sign you up for the full package. Now, normally we require a blood sacrifice as tribute to The Lord Ruler, but since you already know members we can skip to straight to the Test of a Thousand Pains ;)
Oh and remember there is no way out...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on January 24, 2009, 10:23:35 PM
nice!

But...I thought I joined a writing group...not a fraternity...???

It's all good though...towel snappers, however, will be subject to swift retribution (this typically takes the form of eternal obscurity in purgatory...otherwise known as "a typical writing gig on my blog").

Oh...and the name is "deckacards"...as in "the only lame St. Louis Cardinals related username left on Wordpress when I started my first blog"...(I'm kind of a baseball nut)...but, hey...it's an identity...

I would love to submit something on Monday...do I just need to get it formatted correctly and email it out Monday morning (or Sunday night...) using the email list?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 24, 2009, 10:28:59 PM
Haha!

Yes, that's all you need to do.

Let the games begin!

*maniacal laughter*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on January 24, 2009, 10:56:01 PM
Sweet!

I'm on it...

(cue rapid and stressful typing...perhaps a bit of sweating...)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 25, 2009, 07:35:58 AM
sorry, my laptop's screen was cracked last night when someone stepped on it. My fault for having it on the floor. I can still use it somewhat, but I'm going to have to get it replaced within the next couple of weeks. It was my good laptop too (my other one was recently stolen) WHY DOES BAD STUFF KEEP HAPPENING TO ME? At least I can still post my update monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on January 25, 2009, 05:59:24 PM
Oh, man...that sucks...sorry about that...

um...you could up your insurance coverage, put it in the back seat of your car, and slam on your breaks in front of a BMW...?

Item # 213 on the "How to Get Someone Else to Pay for Your Broken Laptop" list...

just a thought...

seriously, though...good luck....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 25, 2009, 06:40:46 PM
well, my luck has been everything but good lately. At least I can still use it as it is, the other stuff that was stolen is gone and insurance will only give me about $30 dollars for the lot of it after deductions which is just not worth it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 27, 2009, 03:04:11 AM
wow.  I repeat myself: that sux.


In unrelated news:

wow I feel so horrible!! I've given such negative critiques so far...please guys, I beg you don't take anything I've said personally.  I love your stories and absolutely intend to follow them.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 27, 2009, 11:19:05 PM
wow I feel so horrible!! I've given such negative critiques so far...please guys, I beg you don't take anything I've said personally. I love your stories and absolutely intend to follow them.
That's exactly how I felt after I finished critiquing yours last week. I think it is one of the hazards of being in a writers group that we can't always be nice, even to the stories we like. But we can all still be friends, right? ...right? ;)

Oh, and on another unrelated note has anyone else been having problems with RE not showing you the most current replies/threads? It has happened to me a few times now and I had do some tricky maneuvering to put up deckacard's critique. I would say it was just my computer being weird-again-but none of the other threads in TWG land seem to be giving it fits so it made me wonder....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 27, 2009, 11:41:01 PM
Wow, I thought it was just my computer having fits after I stepped on the screen. It's only happened once or twice and really only in the last two days but I have noticed that not every new post is shown on my screen.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on January 28, 2009, 12:44:18 AM
I've noticed that as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 28, 2009, 07:14:38 AM
I haven't noticed anything. Granted I haven't been keeping up with any of the crit threads lately...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 28, 2009, 08:10:08 PM
Oh, and on another unrelated note has anyone else been having problems with RE not showing you the most current replies/threads? It has happened to me a few times now and I had do some tricky maneuvering to put up deckacard's critique. I would say it was just my computer being weird-again-but none of the other threads in TWG land seem to be giving it fits so it made me wonder....
You know, it hasn't happened to me since I put this up, which is nice because it was seriously doing it every time for awhile. Just goes to show you that complaining always helps. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 28, 2009, 09:44:10 PM
Exactly. Don't let anyone tell you different.

...So, if I complain about something else, will that something else automatically get fixed?

My book sucks.

*watches intently*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on January 28, 2009, 11:54:50 PM
Exactly. Don't let anyone tell you different.

...So, if I complain about something else, will that something else automatically get fixed?

My book sucks.

*watches intently*

I'm really interested in seeing if that works.  Could save me a whole lot of time. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on January 29, 2009, 01:07:51 AM
I haven't even begun writing yet.

*waits*

Nope, no new documents mysteriously appearing anywhere on my harddisk. :(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on January 29, 2009, 04:31:49 AM
I haven't posted reviews of the last ~40 submissions...

And this is my firs post since early December.

Oh Leader Kibo, make our interwebs fixed, our stories beautiful, and our time limitless. Amen.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 29, 2009, 04:33:21 AM
Maybe NOW we should resurrect The Wedding. I mean, now that the groom has returned and all.....Seems rather appropriate. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on January 29, 2009, 04:41:11 AM
Maybe NOW we should resurrect The Wedding. I mean, now that the groom has returned and all.....Seems rather appropriate. :P

I know! I feel super-ultra-uber bad about that! Please don't be the hating me.  :(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on January 29, 2009, 04:52:30 AM
Welcome back, sortitus!

:P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 29, 2009, 05:04:40 AM
I know! I feel super-ultra-uber bad about that! Please don't be the hating me.  :(

Psh...Hating you. Never. Although I really do think we should resurrect that thread...Or maybe even re-start it here, since Sprig wasn't too thrilled with it being there....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 29, 2009, 05:34:35 AM
Ben, Flo, it doesn't seem to be working for me either. Perhaps we have to complain some more?

It's worth a try. ;)

Welcome back, sortitus.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 29, 2009, 05:38:07 AM
It's worth a try. ;)

Is this in regards to the resurrecting The Wedding? Or to the retrying the complaints? If it works, be sure to relay that to me, because I've got PLENTY I could complain about.....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 29, 2009, 06:07:58 AM
I meant the complaints.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on January 29, 2009, 07:15:48 AM
Well, it's time to get in on the action! my email is 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on January 29, 2009, 07:50:41 AM
Well, since we're all fessing up to being slackadaisical lately, I'll admit I haven't been keeping up on any of the reading either. I've been saving all the submissions, so perhaps one day when I have oodles of time I can get caught up.

I feel like a bad friend.

My only excuses (yes, there are several) are as follows:

1) I've been working a lot of overtime in the hope of having enough of a downpayment for a mortgage. I would like to move no later than the end of April.
2) I'm working on a very large mural for a local museum celebrating Lincoln's 200th B-Day.
3) I've been working on the website for the local SCA group's event. I'll post the link once it is viewable.
4) I am preparing for Train-A-Palooza III , in which I have a sleepover weekend with my eldest two nephews and set up my old (extensive) train set.
5) I may have acquired a girlfriend. The note of uncertainty is only because of a 4000 distance and the difference of several time zones. Other than that, things are just peachy!

This also means I haven't submitted the second act of Spectre of Death. But I will hold off until I have at least some chance to read at least some of everyone elses' work.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 29, 2009, 09:08:13 AM
:o So you actually went out and got a life outside of TWG? :o I didn't think that was allowed...

I guess complaining for profit is a bit more complicated then I initially realized. Maybe we could start smaller and see if we can build up to bigger and better things like self-writing novels....

Welcome Hamster and welcome back to the rest of ya'all! 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 29, 2009, 12:12:17 PM
My only excuses (yes, there are several)

Well, it's Reading Excuses. It's about time we got to the "excuses" part :P

Speaking of which, I haven't been working because these past two weeks have been the most emotionally trying in my whole life. The sad thing is that I'm not exaggerating. Though Wednesday, it appears to have subsided. So I will get back... eventually. Sorry for my flaky attendance, heheh.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on January 29, 2009, 06:02:36 PM
:o So you actually went out and got a life outside of TWG? :o I didn't think that was allowed...

I do have a colorful life. Perhaps too colorful sometimes. But at least the drama is good drama.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on January 29, 2009, 08:36:02 PM
SILK:  Question...

I submitted my Prologue this week...how long before I can submit my next piece (chapter 1)? It's all ready, but i thought I read somewhere that we could submit once a month?

I certainly don't want to crowd the week and take time away from other submissions.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 29, 2009, 08:39:47 PM
You can submit Chapter One next week. The thing about monthly submissions is rather defunct as of late. We're on full weekly schedule now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on January 29, 2009, 08:41:31 PM
Sweet! Thanks, Chaos!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 29, 2009, 08:43:54 PM
Yeah, we seem to be sticking with the weekly thing. (I swear I'll catch up... one day...)

If we had too many people wanting to submit within one week, then Chaos and I would pick the submitters based on who hadn't had a crit recently. But it hasn't been a problem yet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on January 30, 2009, 09:20:59 PM
Okay...so about the whole submission thing,I have a few questions: Do you guys give us deadlines, or do we decide which weeks to submit? And is it okay if I submit this coming Monday?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: M on January 30, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
In order to submit, you need to make a  $100 check payable to: Silk or Chaos and then ask for permission to submit.  Your check will not be refunded, even if you don't get to submit.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Actually, you just do what you just did...ask if you can submit and Silk or Chaos will put you on the submission list.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on January 30, 2009, 10:42:16 PM
In order to submit, you need to make a  $100 check payable to: Silk or Chaos and then ask for permission to submit.  Your check will not be refunded, even if you don't get to submit.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quit harassing the newbies!

Hamster - for $50, I'll tell you how you can avoid mean people like M.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Revast on January 30, 2009, 10:44:14 PM
Hi guys/gals,

So I've spent the last 3-4 days skimming through the threads of this forum and really think this group sounds like a ton of fun. I would love to join up and submit writing I'm doing as well as critique others (that's required I know, but it doesn't mean I can't say I would like to do it.)

Email:   (guess what I do for a living.)

As for reading, I think we are asking everyone for 1 critique of others work a week correct? And more if you are able? If that is the case perhaps I could start with recent startups (so I don't have to read 5 chapters to get to the sixth chapter that has been submitted for critiquing.)

Thanks for having me,

well if you do that is.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 30, 2009, 11:32:11 PM
Welcome Revast.

What we've been doing is giving a brief synopsis in the e-mails we send out with submissions, to cover what's happened previously, for those who may have forgotten, and for those who weren't able to read it--whether they're new, or just didn't have the time. So yeah. You don't have to be limited to just the new stuff....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on January 30, 2009, 11:46:41 PM
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Hamster - for $50, I'll tell you how you can avoid mean people like M.

Sounds like a great deal jwdenzel! Thanks for being so being so thoughtful and caring.  I was just about to write that $100 cheque that M told me to, when I saw your post.  Whew! That was a close one!

Now, do you want that $50 in cash or cheque? ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on January 31, 2009, 12:42:10 AM
(guess what I do for a living.)
You're an accountant?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 31, 2009, 01:42:16 AM
Hamster, for $75 dollars, I can teach you how to understand when people are scamming you....like jwdenzel is. ;D

And I'll take that in cash form. I work only with bills. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on January 31, 2009, 02:30:07 AM
Will Rogers said the easiest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.

I only give free advice (or at least in the public domain).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 31, 2009, 04:11:55 AM
Will Rogers said the easiest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.

Hey, that's what I do!...except that I fold it about 3 times.....I think. So I've tripled my money! Sweet!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on January 31, 2009, 04:22:14 AM
uh...sign me up for this Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on January 31, 2009, 05:23:11 AM
you and me Reaves!

Chapter 1 awaiteth...I think I'm gonna' go with a working title of Inheritance...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on January 31, 2009, 05:33:01 AM
Chapter 1 awaiteth...I think I'm gonna' go with a working title of Inheritance...

Isn't there a whole series about dragons called that?

(And don't worry deckacards... I've already been told my book title is being used to.  Maybe we can start a "I need a title" club)

J
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on January 31, 2009, 05:42:58 AM
Hehe...the "My Titles Suck" club...or the MyTitS Club  ;D

(I couldn't help it...I'm a horrible, horrible man...)

Anywho...yeah, it really is a working title...have no intention of naming it that, but it'll work for now...

Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 31, 2009, 06:15:17 AM
Granite Sunrise isn't exactly what I would have named my current project. It would be called something far closer to its nature of dealing with assassins if not for a certain vampire romance novel.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 31, 2009, 06:43:57 AM
Did you want it named specifically 'Twilight'? Or a title of another book in the series? Or a title with the word twilight in it?....And I can totally see why you wouldn't want your book to be associated with that flaming pile of garbage.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on January 31, 2009, 07:41:25 AM
And I can totally see why you wouldn't want your book to be associated with that flaming pile of garbage...
...that makes obscene amounts of money. Yeah, I wouldn't want my name on those paychecks either...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 31, 2009, 08:04:30 AM
Yes, they do make a lot of money, and I would love to make that much money, but.....I'd rather not have my name on THOSE paychecks, because that would mean that I would be associated with that crap. Have you READ Twilight? Garbage. Shouldn't even be called literature....It's utterly terrible.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 31, 2009, 08:07:51 AM
Did you have to get Wilson on her 'I Hate Twilight' tirade again?  ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 31, 2009, 08:10:01 AM
Hahaha. Sorry Jacque....You know that it really doesn't take a whole lot to get me ranting about Twilight, though....Do you remember that Facebook note?....If only I could link to it here....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 31, 2009, 08:43:02 AM
Frog: Wilson's not the only one. I have a friend who starts twitching and making unhappy noises if Twilight is so much alluded to in his presence.

Dunno if that makes you feel any better...

Welcome, Revast.

Reaves and Cards for Monday so far?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 31, 2009, 09:00:29 AM
Oh, she's not really complaining......At least she better not be....

And on a related sidenote, I'm on AIM right now. And I just looked over and saw the word "Eclipse"..... ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on January 31, 2009, 09:16:56 AM
Frog: Wilson's not the only one. I have a friend who starts twitching and making unhappy noises if Twilight is so much alluded to in his presence.

Funny thing is, it's women who should feel offended by it...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 31, 2009, 09:28:56 AM
Don't worry. We do. Where's Buffy when we need her?  ;D

Oh, she's not really complaining......At least she better not be....

That sounds like a threat. Almost makes me want to start complaining just to see what happens.  ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 31, 2009, 05:44:39 PM
Did you want it named specifically 'Twilight'? Or a title of another book in the series? Or a title with the word twilight in it?....And I can totally see why you wouldn't want your book to be associated with that flaming pile of garbage.

I was going to have  Twilight in the title, but it would have been part of the phrase. I think that *insert worst, most offensive expletive possible here* book series serves only to prove that....I'm just going to end this right here before something bad happens.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 31, 2009, 05:53:52 PM
But....if that something is in regards to Twilight, can it really be "bad"? Because Twilight is already so bad, that I'm not sure it can really get any worse....

Jacque....just...don't do anything to our MC just to get back at me. Like. Atomic detonations, or something like that....I know it won't be permanent, but....I think it would be more than slightly out of place in our book...

Funny thing is, it's women who should feel offended by it...

And this is why I don't understand why so many females like it....Argh. Apparently they would have no problem being oppressed, so long as their oppressor is a hot-static-stalker-boy-vampire.....*shudder*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Karl on January 31, 2009, 06:01:19 PM
You know that it really doesn't take a whole lot to get me ranting about Twilight, though....

I understand. I'm the same way about films by Uwe Boll or Roland Emmerich.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on January 31, 2009, 06:08:37 PM
Hey Silk, I'm pretty sure I asked on the last page, but could you please put me down for Monday as well?

And about Twilight, don't get me started either. My sister was obsessed for a week with those books, but wouldn't even read Mistborn when I recommended it. I mean, how can someone love those...books... and then not read something as good as Mistborn, especially since I got the rest of my family to love it?

What is this world coming to?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on January 31, 2009, 06:15:03 PM
Well in all fairness, I actually was a fan of them for a little bit. I read Twilight in about 15 hours--stayed up all night reading it pretty much. Meyer's writing style is addictive, and since I'm very easily entertained, I got sucked in....However, the literary value of her books is nil. And so after I got done reading, and actually thinking about what I had read....not so good. And then the hype started to kick in for the books...and I'm like "Why? There's so many other better books out there!"

And since then (over a year ago), my opinion has dropped so far that now any time I hear the mention of Twilight, I shudder....The reaction is worse for the author though. I hate that woman. More than I can possibly put words to. I utterly loathe her....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on January 31, 2009, 06:29:10 PM
Well in all fairness, I actually was a fan of them for a little bit. I read Twilight in about 15 hours--stayed up all night reading it pretty much. Meyer's writing style is addictive, and since I'm very easily entertained, I got sucked in....However, the literary value of her books is nil. And so after I got done reading, and actually thinking about what I had read....not so good. And then the hype started to kick in for the books...and I'm like "Why? There's so many other better books out there!"

And since then (over a year ago), my opinion has dropped so far that now any time I hear the mention of Twilight, I shudder....The reaction is worse for the author though. I hate that woman. More than I can possibly put words to. I utterly loathe her....

The first one is a fairly fun read, it's the second one that offended me to the point I couldn't make it past two thirds in because of Bella’s all the abnormal clinginess. Her reliance on men--teen boys--is too much to take, particularly when I’ve been raised by some very strong women.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 31, 2009, 07:15:03 PM
Yeah, that was the one when I really started to wonder WHY this girl wasn't admitted into a psychiatric ward. I mean if it was a character arch, I might have gotten over it, but she was whiny and clingy the whole time. Or at least, the whole time I actually read it before it went flying across the room.

Jacque....just...don't do anything to our MC just to get back at me. Like. Atomic detonations, or something like that....I know it won't be permanent, but....I think it would be more than slightly out of place in our book...
Aw, well if you didn't want atomic detonations in our book (another one in the desperately needs a name club), you really shouldn't have given me the first chapter.  ;)

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 31, 2009, 07:16:09 PM
Submissions list updated. If I've missed anyone else, poke me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on January 31, 2009, 08:31:49 PM
Little Wilson I'm not sure whether you have read either series, but most people cant have true hatred for an author until they read the WoT series and THEN read a Terry Goodkind book. The Goodkind blatantly stole every brilliant idea the late Robert Jordan had then found a way to screw them up. Deus ex machinas, cliches, stolen...everything... there are very few WoT fans who do not want the Goodkind dead.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on February 01, 2009, 05:21:48 AM
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Reaves and Cards for Monday so far?

Aye, aye, Cap'n...I'm in!

As for the Terry Goodkind subject...I am a WoT fan...I'm enamored with Jordan's books...but I also like Goodkind's series...having said that, how Goodkind got away with that I'll never know...the only explanation I can think of is that Jordan had such an amazing impact on the genre that his work is in the process of creating a new, modern formula for writing the fantasy epic (much like Tolkien developed tons of writers to follow...), and now we'll see many, many writers follow his example...only time will tell...but as a fan of WoT, I just can't see how someone can read that series and not sub-consciously take SOMETHING from it...of course, Goodkind took EVERYTHING from it...that's different...

Regarding Goodkind himself...the guy is a moron. I'm sorry, but he's philosophically an idiot...and his writing ability DID get better as the series went along, but go back and read Wizard's First Rule again...that was one crappy piece of literature...and Pillars of Creation...the one where Goodkind completely abandons Richard and Kahlan for some completely non-interesting characters for the entire damn book...what the hell was he thinking????? And, to cap it all off...Goodkind is arrogant and full of himself to a fault...ugh...makes me cringe to read some of his personal stuff...things like his opinion that "You are either born a writer...or you are not..." - basically, he believes you are a writer at birth, or you just aren't a writer...you can learn to write "better"...but you'll never "learn to be a writer"...

Having said ALL of that...I do love Richard and Kahlan's characters...and i enjoyed reading the series...but I'm not proud of it...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on February 01, 2009, 06:11:10 AM
Regarding Goodkind himself...the guy is a moron. I'm sorry, but he's philosophically an idiot...

I have to agree. I was listening to a podcast interview with him today and he went on for about fifteen minutes of uninterrupted rambling about outlining and plotting. Note: not once did he call it outline or plotting, but continued on about "having to know my characters before I write them", using a number of poorly thought out metaphors to describe it, addressed the topics as if they were undefined and abstract thoughts that he'd come up with, and talking in circles the entire time. I eventually got tired and turned it off after he'd been going on for about twenty minutes.

Waste of my time, and I had a lot of it to waste today :(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on February 01, 2009, 07:24:08 AM
Well, let's just forget about him for a while. He isn't here, and he isn't one of the people on the writing excuses cast so we can all just go back to pretending he doesnt exist and get back to trying to improve our own projects.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on February 01, 2009, 10:06:35 AM
So, my book takes place in the WoT universe literally. Hope nobody's offended. It takes place in the Second Age though, so no  existing characters are used*.

I've given plotting a lot of thought. It seems to me that to have a good plot, you need to first have good locations. Locations are key because if you don't describe them well, your readers are lost no matter what's going on otherwise. I make sure to write at least 6 paragraphs of setting in any scene before any action happens so I can refer to the setting descriptions I already gave without confusing anyone. Needless to say, my locations are far superior to any other writer's locations I have seen. Some test readers go so far as to call my works "novels for architects"! I hope we have some text-based architecture fans out there. Personally, I get quite a thrill from a well-turned phrase about a beautiful column in a grassy courtyard (Thought I was going to give away my next novel's plot, did you? Well, that exact description is in the book and it's central to the plot, but that's not even the best part.). I think that you will all feel quite relieved after reading my book, the setting is THAT GOOD!

*(Except for some cameos!!1!!!!!eleven!!!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on February 01, 2009, 05:14:33 PM
what you're doing Sortitus is called fanfiction and is perfectly acceptable except when authors specifically request that no one does any. What the other guy did was blatantly rip off the ideas and then try to pass them off as his own original work.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: deckacards on February 01, 2009, 05:50:22 PM
Exactly...and i'm all for moving on...just had to weigh in on the Goodkind "issue" :)

As for your work Sortitus...I have to ask...(this is an honest question...curious as to how you've dealt with the possible gaps)...What about all of the content from the final book of the WoT series? What if the final book contains information that completely undermines a critical point in your story?

That would make me nervous...writing before Jordan's work is done...looking forward to reading your stuff...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Revast on February 02, 2009, 09:16:36 PM
I would like to submit this week if possible.

Will I get a message saying I've been picked? Or should I just watch this thread?

thanks
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on February 02, 2009, 09:37:36 PM
gimme a couple hours more before I submit. I've got some house stuff I need to do first.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 02, 2009, 09:44:38 PM
Just watch this thread. Specifically, take a look at the first post, which is where I've got the "whose submitting" thing listed.

Our submission days are usually the Monday of every week, so feel free to submit today.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on February 04, 2009, 09:35:52 PM
Please put me down as a submitter for next Monday. 

(Crap, now I "have" to go back and revise it one more time!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on February 05, 2009, 02:25:30 PM
I'd like to submit on Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on February 05, 2009, 09:25:42 PM
same.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Rane on February 06, 2009, 07:04:29 AM
So, we just post our email on here if we want to get stuff to critique?
Here's mine: 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 06, 2009, 03:39:26 PM
Posting your email will get you on the list. If you want to submit for our next submission date (currently, every Monday) say so on this thread. Theoretically you have to tell us by the Saturday before, but we haven't been enforcing that because we haven't yet had too many people sign up per one week.

Updated the submissions list. Let me know if I've missed anyone.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Revast on February 06, 2009, 06:24:41 PM
You forgot me.   :'(

Please add my name and email to submission list. I posted it a few pages back, but so you don't have to look for it:
 
And I also will be submitting this week. I posted that a half dozen or so posts up.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Revast on February 11, 2009, 04:45:06 PM
I'd like to submit again this week if possible.

Thanks
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Miyabi on February 12, 2009, 07:02:20 AM
Oh my guys.  I'm sorry I have been gone and everything.  Life has been CRAZY!  BUT, put me back on the submission list for whenever is best for you and I will start replying and reading and comment and stuff for the next wave of emails I get. :]  -I have some stuff already ready for my submissions
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on February 14, 2009, 12:54:13 AM
I'd like to submit on Monday. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 14, 2009, 01:48:59 AM
For Monday: Revast, Miyabi, and Ben so far. Yes?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Miyabi on February 14, 2009, 06:36:19 AM
Sounds good to me. :]
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on February 14, 2009, 06:57:24 AM
I would like to submit on Monday as well please.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on February 14, 2009, 05:36:05 PM
I'd also like to submit on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on February 18, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
I'll be lying low for the next few weeks, just so you know. After that I'll probably be wanting to join the hallowed ranks of submitters, however. There, I've said it, there's no backing out now. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on February 18, 2009, 07:04:32 PM
Right on!  Bring it, Flo!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on February 20, 2009, 04:22:52 AM
I think I'm actually going to pass on submitting this week. Yes, you can all breathe a sigh of relief now, no crystalheart to read lol  :D

And I'm going snowboarding tomorrow so I still won't be able to critique any submissions. However, I promise I will get to them all eventually!!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Revast on February 20, 2009, 03:05:41 PM
I will submit again.

 :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on February 20, 2009, 03:49:20 PM
I think I'm actually going to pass on submitting this week. Yes, you can all breathe a sigh of relief now, no crystalheart to read lol  :D

Omg. That will be so... Weird. :)

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And I'm going snowboarding tomorrow so I still won't be able to critique any submissions. However, I promise I will get to them all eventually!!

Can't wait to read the resulting Aermyst snowboard fight scene. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on February 20, 2009, 04:51:17 PM
Sign me up for monday I guess
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Miyabi on February 20, 2009, 10:58:07 PM
Can I submit again Monday as well?

-I want to have to do two chapters a week that way I stay motivated to write.

xD
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Pipe on February 22, 2009, 02:36:26 AM
hi guys! Sorry I went scarce for a while there. Work has been crazy the pas few weeks and in my spare time I've been rushing to complete a short story for a deadline.  Not sure if I can finish the first draft by Monday but place me on the list of submitters anyway please. This short story is science fiction, so it's waaaay beyond my comfort zone so I'll need all the help I can get :) 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on February 23, 2009, 09:07:31 PM
I suppose if you're going to twist my arm, I'll submit next Monday. But know that I did this of my own free will, and not because you begged.  8)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Mathom on February 26, 2009, 05:00:39 AM
I'm willing to critique and I'd like advice and comments (when I finally finish something).

 
Not sure I understand the submission deadlines thing.  I may not have anything to submit for a while.  It all depends on how crazy school and work go.  But when I do get something, I'd like to submit it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 26, 2009, 05:26:44 AM
Welcome.

At the moment, submission deadlines are every Monday, though you don't have to submit every Monday to be part of the group.

Whenever you do have something to submit, let us know by posting in this thread, by the Saturday prior to the date you actually want to submit. (If you wanted to submit this upcoming Monday, you'd post here by Saturday.)

It hasn't been a problem so far, but if we start getting too many people wanting to go in a week, Chaos and I will start putting a cap on the number of people who can submit for week. Should that happen, we'll choose who gets to submit each week based on who hasn't submitted recently.

That's mostly academic at this point, though. Don't worry about it for now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on February 27, 2009, 05:14:26 AM
I'd like to submit for Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on February 28, 2009, 05:47:43 PM
I'll submit this monday too
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 01, 2009, 12:47:57 AM
Hum...I'd like to submit on monday but I don't know if I'll be able to. Would it be alright if I say I'd tentatively like to submit but I can still back out if it simply isn't ready? I'm sorry about this :( It certainly will not be the norm.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 01, 2009, 01:22:47 AM
I don't see why not.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 01, 2009, 02:55:14 AM
Belay that. I've taken another look at it and done some work and it will be ready by Monday  :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on March 01, 2009, 07:58:28 AM
I would like to submit on Monday too if that's okay. (It's still Saturday over here!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Miyabi on March 01, 2009, 08:04:59 AM
Me as well, but you may only get one chapter this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 04, 2009, 12:59:42 AM
I'd be interesting in submitting on monday.

(I'm looking over and editting my chapter and I think its going to be really good!!!! plot twists, great dialogue, yaaaaay!!!! Now I'll just wait til monday for everyone to give a nice cold slap of reality.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 04, 2009, 02:42:24 AM
I'd like to submit for the next round, please.

Thanks
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on March 05, 2009, 06:24:21 PM
I want to submit on Monday too.

And Reaves, my personal opinion is that you shouldn't edit anything until the entire book's been critqued. Doing so can confuse the critquers.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on March 05, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
And Reaves, my personal opinion is that you shouldn't edit anything until the entire book's been critqued. Doing so can confuse the critquers.
No offense but, what's the point of getting critiques if you're not going to use them to fix the book as you go? I think making edits should be encouraged as long as you explain significant changes in the summaries. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 05, 2009, 08:03:04 PM
I think making edits should be encouraged as long as you explain significant changes in the summaries. But that's just me.

Concur.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on March 05, 2009, 08:43:39 PM
I'm a big believer that you finish a darft and then go on to the next, make those corrections and then move on to the next etc.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on March 05, 2009, 09:01:56 PM
I think making edits should be encouraged as long as you explain significant changes in the summaries. But that's just me.

Concur.
Oh, shoot. Why do you always have to- Oh. You're actually agreeing with me. Carry on then. :)

I'm a big believer that you finish a darft and then go on to the next, make those corrections and then move on to the next etc.
Aw, well we are all going to have different writing styles. Me, I'm a compulsive editor. I just can't seem to leave well enough alone. But then it's getting better, right? Or at least in theory....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 05, 2009, 09:47:46 PM
I think it does a disservice to everybody if you simply hand in your first raw draft. I mean, what do you expect to happen? There are going to be problems, there will be typos, and it will likely get shredded.   But if you put your best effort forward, after fixing stuff, then the people reading it won't focus on stuff you already know about and can instead focus on the things you don't see.   Which is the whole point, right?

Maybe it's just me.  But in the week leading up to a submission, (like this one for me, for example) I always go back to those chapters I plan on submitting and clean things up as best I can and put as much polish as possible.

(Sorry if we're getting too off topic here)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 05, 2009, 10:30:38 PM
A lot of the stuff that I write desperately needs a good run-through. Sometimes sentence structure needs to change. Sometimes the dialogue falls flat. Sometimes a line is unnecessary and confusing and needs to be cut.

Of course there is a drawback. Often I have added something in at the last instant and then everyone latches on to that one thing that doesn't fit.

I do understand what you mean about confusing the critiquers. Just recently I made a decision to revamp entire parts of my world. It won't change anything major or important in the story itself, but readers seeing it for the first time could be a bit disoriented. Of course, I'll make a note that explains what it is, but still.

I just think that I should do everything I can to make the manuscript as good as it can be before I submit, and then use those comments to make it even better.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on March 06, 2009, 12:15:24 AM
As long as there aren`t alot of other people who would like to submit, I would like to do submit again this Monday, as my next chapter actually follows the same character from the previous one!  :o So I`d like to submit while it`s somewhat fresh.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 06, 2009, 12:57:03 AM
I just remembered that I will be out of town this weekend through mid next week.  So no submission afterall.

I'll submit the following week probably.
J
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on March 06, 2009, 01:09:10 AM
I just remembered that I will be out of town this weekend through mid next week.  So no submission afterall.
:'( Now that's just not nice. I was looking forward to ripping through your stuff again.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 06, 2009, 01:11:22 AM
I promise that this new material will be extra ripe for you to bite into. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 06, 2009, 02:05:34 AM
I just remembered that I will be out of town this weekend through mid next week.  So no submission afterall.
:'( Now that's just not nice. I was looking forward to ripping through your stuff again.

I was looking forward to reading your stuff too :( I'll guess I'll have to wait :(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 06, 2009, 02:16:57 AM
I just remembered that I will be out of town this weekend through mid next week.  So no submission afterall.
:'( Now that's just not nice. I was looking forward to ripping through your stuff again.

I was looking forward to reading your stuff too :( I'll guess I'll have to wait :(

The Pressure!    *flees the country*
;-)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on March 06, 2009, 05:39:47 AM
If it's not too late, I'd like to submit something.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 06, 2009, 07:18:11 AM
It's not too late.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 06, 2009, 09:29:57 PM
"Its too late to apologize, to you..."
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 07, 2009, 04:11:47 AM
Well yes, but it was always too late for that.

>>;
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on March 13, 2009, 09:13:07 AM
So, can I get in on this? I'm working on something and should have enough for a submission soon. My email (well, one of the ones that I post in public places - you know, gotta keep ahead of the spambots) is nospamplease +at+ ryanballantyne dot name. (One of the nice things about having your own domain and web host is you get to make as many email addresses as you like.)

I'll be happy to read and crit anyone's stuff - time allowing, of course. In fact, I think I'll be more active as a reader than a writer, but I *am* joining because I want to submit something.

Is JoseB still around? I saw he was looking for Spanish-language readers. I speak Spanish pretty well (served an LDS mission to Nicaragua), and would love to read his stuff. I may not be the best at critiquing mechanics, but those are (so I'm told) the easiest parts of writing to fix.

Edit: Actually, I've got around 1700 words I could submit. That seems like a good size. Is there room for me to submit on Monday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 13, 2009, 04:32:20 PM
You're the first one to sign up for Monday, so go for it.

Oh, and welcome to the group.

I think Jose's been on a bit of a hiatus, but as far as I recall he plans on coming back. Also, I envy you your domain and webhost. Free servers tend to give you exactly what you pay for.

(This forum can actually only be viewed by members, so you don't need to worry too much about posting your email address as is. Though, I might just scramble that list on the first post anyway.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on March 13, 2009, 08:42:43 PM
Quote
Also, I envy you your domain and webhost. Free servers tend to give you exactly what you pay for.

I use nearlyfreespeech.net. They charge only for what you use, so if you don't use any resources, you don't get charged. Domain registration with privacy costs about $12 a year if you go through them, and email forwarding (you need an actual inbox to forward to, but you get as many aliases as you want) is a penny per day. Even a poor college student like me can afford that. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 14, 2009, 03:23:49 AM
Oh, that's awesome. Thanks - I'll totally be checking them out.

Edit: Have you been using them long? How are they for reliability?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on March 14, 2009, 08:17:53 AM
I'll have been with them for a year next month. As for reliability, their database servers went down for about an hour once in September. That's the only downtime I've noticed. They seem to take reliability and performance pretty seriously. Their servers aren't the fastest I've used, but they're not what I'd call slow. I've got an installation of MediaWiki (http://aquariawiki.ryanballantyne.name/wiki/index.php/Main_Page) set up for the Aquaria modding community; you can load that up to get a feel for how things perform on a PHP/DB-heavy site.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 14, 2009, 03:30:53 PM
Hum...I guess i could submit monday but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that until I've caught up with a few more critiques of other submissions. We'll see how it goes but I might have to pass.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 14, 2009, 05:56:59 PM
Hum...I guess i could submit monday but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that until I've caught up with a few more critiques of other submissions. We'll see how it goes but I might have to pass.

Good, cause I need time to catch up on YOUR work. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on March 14, 2009, 06:38:24 PM
I think we all fell a little behind this week...  :(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 14, 2009, 08:49:22 PM
Thanks Ryos.

Don't feel you have to submit just because we don't have that many people signed up. If we're all behind anyway we might as well take a bit of a break.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on March 17, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Hey, I'm new here!  My email is  .  Please add it to the list?  And... it looks like you're taking a break?  But maybe I could submit the next time around...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 17, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
I'd like to submit on Monday please.  (Assuming I'm not out of town again, which may be possible)  So we'll see.

(And I also intend to read a bunch of entries and get caught up on the on-going novels floatsing around out there.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 18, 2009, 05:26:38 AM
I only meant "break" in that we had rather fewer submissions yesterday than usual (only one) and that nobody should feel compelled to submit just to fill holes if they didn't want to.

You're welcome to submit this upcoming Monday if you like, Ravenstar. Only you, though; Jason's not allowed.

...

I'm kidding, of course. I'll put you both down. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on March 18, 2009, 06:37:13 AM
Hey jwdenzel - when you submit (or whenever, actually; I don't mind) could you please send me whatever you've submitted in the past so I'm not totally lost? If not, I don't know how much help I could be.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 18, 2009, 12:20:41 PM
I'd like to submit on Monday please. 


Same.

And Ryos, we've decided to each put a few lines of summary for each previously submitted chapter just to give new critiquers an idea of what is going on, but often people do ask for previous submissions. I'm sure anyone here would be happy to send out their stuff a second time  ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on March 18, 2009, 02:36:28 PM
Lol!  Alrighty then!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 18, 2009, 04:44:02 PM
You're welcome to submit this upcoming Monday if you like, Ravenstar. Only you, though; Jason's not allowed.

*Inserts a character named Silk into the next chapter that meets a horrible fate.*

;-)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 18, 2009, 09:09:38 PM
Haha.  Dang, these writer folks are dangerous.

Two can play at that game, Jason. Just you wait and see... Just you wait.

;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Bookstore Guy on March 18, 2009, 09:17:36 PM
It's an honor to be killed in people's novels. I already have a death scene in Dan Well's 3rd book, and Brandon is scheming a way for me to die in his next one.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 18, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
Haha, awesome.

Remind me to ask you what your death scene is once I finally get around to reading Dan's book.

Hey, apparently I'm gonna be in someone else's book, too. (Albeit as a guy.) I wonder if I'm dying in that one...?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on March 18, 2009, 11:18:14 PM
I have a little bit that I would like to submit as well. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on March 23, 2009, 07:08:52 PM
So...I see four critique threads, but only one email in my inbox. I feel so unwanted. :'(

Heh, not really. I just thought I'd point that out so people don't think I'm freeloading when I don't offer critiques. ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 23, 2009, 08:37:03 PM
So...I see four critique threads, but only one email in my inbox. I feel so unwanted. :'(

Heh, not really. I just thought I'd point that out so people don't think I'm freeloading when I don't offer critiques. ;D

I'm just gonna say it, I was confused by the whole dot name thing :( I think I just threw a .com down there like a silly boy :P Anyway, I just tried sending it again. Let me know if you got it this time.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on March 24, 2009, 07:39:24 PM
Nope, still don't have it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on March 24, 2009, 10:32:24 PM
Normally I only like to submit once a month.  However, I have a great opportunity coming up to share part of this novel with some people I really respect, so I'd like to get more feedback before I share.

So please put me down for another Monday submission.

:)

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 27, 2009, 12:11:43 PM
I would like to submit again this coming week. I'll do my best to critique ya'll before then!!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: maxonennis on March 27, 2009, 06:13:09 PM
I'd like to submit on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on March 27, 2009, 07:44:16 PM
I'd say "me, too," but honestly I'm just going to be too busy this weekend to finish chapter 2.  So I'm gonna wait another week if that's ok. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 28, 2009, 03:43:59 AM
That's fine.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on March 30, 2009, 08:08:06 PM
I think I figured out why nobody's submissions are reaching me (certain domain confusions aside, of course). Silk put a space between the "ryanballantyne" and the ".name" in my email list entry, so everyone who copied and pasted that would find that their emails wouldn't reach me.

Reaves, your submission came through, but jwdenzel's and maxonenis' didn't. So, if you were wondering why your emails bounced, that's probably why. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on March 30, 2009, 08:11:40 PM
ahhhhhh...and that would be why I assumed it wasn't a proper domain. It didn't have the underline.
.
.
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just so you know.




P.S. Silk I love you. Thanks for being so faithful to admin!

As an aside, do you want us to call you Raethe or Silk?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on March 30, 2009, 10:09:29 PM
Yeah, I didn't get maxonenis's submission either.  Could just be because we're fairly new here, and he didn't add our emails to his current mailing list...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on March 31, 2009, 12:04:53 AM
I got mail from Reaves, maxonennis, and jwdenzel. Do I have the full set? I'm asking this because I need to waste as much time as possible this week. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 31, 2009, 06:24:20 AM
I think so. Check the first page of the thread if you're not sure. (I don't remember, I haven't slept in over 38 hours...)

If you run out you can always go back through older submissions. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on March 31, 2009, 06:29:18 AM
As an aside, do you want us to call you Raethe or Silk?

I say she's Silk all the way....It's perfect. She's evil like Silk...Of course, to understand that claim, you would've had to be in the Stupid Titles thread back in December, so...yeah....haha. Good times, good times.

Oh, and Silk is a character in David Eddings' The Belgariad. Which is a series. A great series. First book is Pawn of Prophecy. I highly recommend it to all who haven't yet read it...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 31, 2009, 07:11:39 AM
Sorry, Reaves, didn't see your earlier comment. (Yeah, refer to my previous comment about being, ahem, slightly underslept.)

Aww, thanks! I try. I feel kinda bad about not being able to critique in forever, but soon that shall pass, and in the meantime I figure I should at least check in and keep things going smoothly. :D

Haha, either Silk or Raethe is fine, really. Raethe has been my online handle ofr probably about twelve years and it's actually kind of weird to be referred to by other names... But I like Silk too! It's kinda grown on me, both as a handle and a character ('cuz I have now totally read the first Belgariad book).

Ryos: Sorry about that! I don't actually know how that space got in there. It's fixed now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 01, 2009, 05:20:28 PM
Maybe I'm a bit slow but best I can tell all I need to do is add my email to this thread to be a part of the reading list.  If I'm skipping a step or crashing a party please delete this entry for me, but I'd like to volunteer to be a reader.

 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on April 01, 2009, 07:17:31 PM
Hey Silk - don't worry about it. :)

So. Might I submit this coming Monday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on April 01, 2009, 08:34:58 PM
Welcome Renoard! Glad to have you.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 02, 2009, 06:25:05 AM
After pulling a muscle to put this together I thought I'd share the list.
Boy a list server would make this easier...



Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 02, 2009, 08:05:26 PM
Welcome, Renoard. There's also a list on the first post of this thread.

Ryos, I have you down for Monday.

(I won't always reply to the thread, btw - sometimes I'll just edit the first post. Otherwise I kind of feel like I'm spamming sometimes.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 02, 2009, 09:53:19 PM
Thanks silk.  I wasn't trying to hijack the list, I just didn't realize that the one on the first post was as current as it was.  By the time I did I had already posted.

I'm assuming I missed receiving the Apr. 1st distribution so the next one is on the 15th?

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 02, 2009, 10:19:54 PM
No problem. :D

And the next submission date is next Monday, the 6th (I should probably update that thread, since we seem to be sticking with the weekly submissions for-sures. Feel free to pester the people who submitted last week to send out their submissions. I believe last week's submitters were Jason (jwdenzel) Maxonennis, and Reaves.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on April 03, 2009, 06:36:14 PM
Hey everyone,

I am currently working on my first novel. I like to think that its sort of Roger Zelazny-Amberish, It's about two kids out of high school that travel to various fantasy worlds via a magic sword.

Anyway, I love the idea of this writing group and was wondering if I could be added to the list. My email address is:
 

Thanks!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on April 03, 2009, 06:40:32 PM
Hi Erik!

Welcome to the group.  Do you envision your novel as YA?   It sounds like a lot of fun.  Can't wait to read it.

Take care
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on April 03, 2009, 07:16:28 PM
I think its probably YA but I don't know if there is too much violence for that or not. Its pretty light on things like sex and swearing but there is plenty of decapitations and dismemberment's.   ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on April 03, 2009, 08:33:04 PM
:( I just realized I am going to be out of town for a few days and I won't be able to critique anyone over that time :( That was when I was hoping to get to ya'll...
And of course, I won't be submitting anything either :P (not that I would have anyway...)  :P


So don't feel alarmed when I still haven't critiqued anyone until Wednesday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 03, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
Jason I just tried to click and navigate to your website and my browser just couldn't handle htTtp: as a protocol. :(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on April 03, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
Jason I just tried to click and navigate to your website and my browser just couldn't handle htTtp: as a protocol. :(

Doh. Thanks. Fixed.  But I'm sure you already figured out the link. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on April 03, 2009, 10:36:41 PM
Wait, you're that guy? :o

I suddenly feel out of my league.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 09, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
I'm alive. Really. I've been alive for a long time (you know, as opposed to leaving RE for a while, becoming a vampire or some other undead entity and then back into an unundead person. Just so there's no confusion there :P). College is crazy busy, and though I have been viewing Reading Excuses quite regularly, I simply cannot recall the last time that I've posted. Clearly, it's been much too long. I apologize sincerely.

However, despite my total failure in regular critiquing and submitting, I do have everyone's submissions organized by member. So, if anyone missed any submissions, I should have it and I would be glad to send them out. Just shoot me an email.

I will get to them, if it's the last thing I do!

No problem. :D

And the next submission date is next Monday, the 6th (I should probably update that thread, since we seem to be sticking with the weekly submissions for-sures. Feel free to pester the people who submitted last week to send out their submissions. I believe last week's submitters were Jason (jwdenzel) Maxonennis, and Reaves.

We should probably edit all of the pinned topics to say that it's a weekly thing, not a bi-monthly submission schedule anymore. That's long overdue. Perhaps I will get to that this weekend.

But! Most importantly, I would like to state that I'm submitting next Monday, the 13th. It's been forever since I've submitted, but that's no matter. This submission will be a short story. Hopefully it will be up to par.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 10, 2009, 04:20:54 PM
I look forward to reading it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on April 11, 2009, 02:40:08 AM
Me too!  And when my life (or rather, the lives of my close relatives) slow down a little, I will again submit, though by that time, I should just start over by submitting the revised Ch. 1... :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 11, 2009, 07:31:58 PM
This may have been addressed but I just can't find it.  Are there ever multiple authors making submissions on the same week?  I'd prefer that there were, because the number of members is growing and it could get unwieldy in that case.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on April 11, 2009, 07:58:33 PM
This may have been addressed but I just can't find it.  Are there ever multiple authors making submissions on the same week?  I'd prefer that there were, because the number of members is growing and it could get unwieldy in that case.
Usually yes that is the case. I might submit this week if I can get around to some critiquing first...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on April 11, 2009, 09:23:15 PM
Can I get added to the list? I wouldn't mind helping to critique on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 11, 2009, 09:25:40 PM
This may have been addressed but I just can't find it.  Are there ever multiple authors making submissions on the same week?  I'd prefer that there were, because the number of members is growing and it could get unwieldy in that case.

It's entirely dependent on if people have things to submit. I'd imagine that right now people are quite busy, but submissions should pick up eventually.

Can I get added to the list? I wouldn't mind helping to critique on Monday.

I'll make sure Silk remembers to edit the first post in this topic and put you in there, Erik!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on April 11, 2009, 09:33:38 PM
I would like to submit this week. Any objections?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 11, 2009, 09:43:13 PM
The more, the merrier :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on April 12, 2009, 04:46:13 AM
I would like to submit this week. Any objections?

I object!!!!!

Just kidding. Carry on.
*whistles*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 12, 2009, 05:16:28 AM
*crickets*



Well I wasn't going to do this for a while, but I did experiment with a first effort Flash Fiction do I would like to submit Monday as well.  Of course I plan to read also.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 12, 2009, 07:01:07 AM
Sorry for the oversight, Erik. I'm terribly scattered right now.

If I miss things like that in the future, feel free to shoot me a PM as well.

For the upcoming Monday, I have Reaves (maybe), Chaos, Renoard, and Sortitus. Missing anyone else?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on April 13, 2009, 01:43:02 AM
I figured I'd go ahead and confirm myself as definitely submitting something... the new topic will appear somewhere in the next five minutes  :D

However, I will not be submitting a chapter. Its going to be a little bit different...I may send out an email, but it won't have any Crystalheart attached. Just check out the post.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on April 14, 2009, 01:33:44 AM
Thanks for adding me to the list.

One question, how will I know when it is my turn to submit?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on April 14, 2009, 01:46:28 AM
Am I the only one who didn't get a submission from either Sortitus or Chaos?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on April 14, 2009, 01:51:05 AM
I didn't get one from those guys either....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on April 14, 2009, 02:13:30 AM
Um... you ARE one of those guys...  ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 14, 2009, 02:14:52 AM
I didn't get a submission from Sortitus or Chaos either. I got one from Reaves and one from Renoard.

Erik: Submission dates are every Monday (you're by no means obligated to submit every week). When you want to submit for a given week, let me and Chaos know by posting so in this thread by the Saturday previous to when you want to submit.

We ask you to post a couple of days in advance so that we can keep tabs on how many people submit a week; we don't want to overload everybody with a dozen submissions in a week.

So far we haven't had to turn anybody down because of too many submissions in a week (if we have to start doing that, we'll be favouring those who haven't submitted in a while), but either way, after you post here saying you want to submit, Chaos and/or I will reply and let you know.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 14, 2009, 02:30:15 AM
I'm disappointed not to see a submission from Chaos or sorti...

Silk, unless you're on there with an old screen name, you aren't on the distribution list.  Is that by design?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 14, 2009, 02:56:59 AM
Ah. I'm on there with the name Raethe,  my original handle. I just forgot to change it, I guess.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on April 14, 2009, 05:02:45 AM
Erik: Submission dates are every Monday (you're by no means obligated to submit every week). When you want to submit for a given week, let me and Chaos know by posting so in this thread by the Saturday previous to when you want to submit.

We ask you to post a couple of days in advance so that we can keep tabs on how many people submit a week; we don't want to overload everybody with a dozen submissions in a week.

So far we haven't had to turn anybody down because of too many submissions in a week (if we have to start doing that, we'll be favouring those who haven't submitted in a while), but either way, after you post here saying you want to submit, Chaos and/or I will reply and let you know.

Ah, ok. Well I have a book that I have about 5 chapters written for. I would love some feedback on them whenever I can get a turn.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 14, 2009, 07:08:20 AM
Curses! I'm late!

I've spent all of the past three days working on this, and I learned how accursedly slow my writing.

I hoped to submit it before midnight, but I forgot. So, you get it about fifteen minutes (my time zone) after Monday. But! I'm of the opinion that the day should actually switch over at 3am. It would be much better for college students. So, under that logic, I'm totally on time.

My short story is on its way just as soon as I add the new Reading Excuses people to my email list. I haven't submitted in... too long...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 14, 2009, 07:44:07 AM
If it makes you feel better, it's still twenty minutes to midnight in my time zone. I concur anyway. 3am makes so much more sense.

I'm pretty slow too. (*ducks objects thrown by people who were around for this year's NaNoWriMo*) I wanted to be done both genres of my portfolio and my essay by like ... 6pm. It's quarter to midnight and I'm still working on the second portfolio genre. Fortunately it's a pretty wimpy essay. >>;

Erik: You're welcome to submit this upcoming Monday. I don't know that you'll be able to push all five chapters through at once, though, depending on how long your chapters are.

I think we ballparked a word limit of 4000ish per submission back when we first started... Of course, due to the fact that I, um, kind of, sort of, haventreadanysubmissionsforthelastfourmonths *koff* I don't know if people are sticking to that.

Hey, guys, you who've been paying attention? What's the average word length of submissions at these days?

(I'm sorry. I am a bad bad person.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on April 14, 2009, 08:58:51 AM
Ok, no problem. Right now each chapter is pretty short, about 1000 words each on average, just about 6000 words for all 5 chapters.

I'm mainly concerned with the first three chapters for now though. I've been taking a class from Brandon and we're supposed to submit 3 chapters for him next week for the final.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 14, 2009, 09:49:33 AM
Ah. I don't imagine 6k words should be too much of a problem. (Says the girl who's used to seeing 50 page + submissions per person for one of her creative writing classes.) If you're just concerned about the first three chapters for the moment, that's fine too.

In fact... You're supposed to be submitting for class next week? Heck, if there's a time limit involved, go ahead and submit this week if you like. One person who was going to hasn't submitted, and even if he had we'd still be at five submitters for the week, which I think is reasonable. So yeah... We'll let you buck the trend, just this once. ;)

If it's for a final portfolio, you might want to ask people if they'll also consider nitpicky stuff like grammar and line edits as well as broader critiques, if you think you might find that useful.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on April 14, 2009, 09:59:50 AM
LOL, to be honest I am pretty new to writing so I find everything useful.

If its ok I'd like to send the whole thing because I think Brandon wanted 6000 words. But feel free to just read the first three if you want. Right now I am just trying to polish them before turning them in next week. The first chapter is mainly the one I want to fix, the opening paragraphs bug me a little right now.

Thanks for bending the rules for me!   ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 14, 2009, 10:08:26 AM
No problem.  I think it's pretty reasonable to consider deadlines for classes/contests/etc.

Also, it's not yet 3:00am for me, so totally still Monday. *koff*

When do you actually have to turn in it in by, Erik? I'll do my best to read it before then, though I'm afraid I can't make any guarantees. I am just a teensy bit swamped at the moment. (I kind of have to write two books. It's the lightest workload I've had all semester.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on April 14, 2009, 04:35:27 PM
Not to be a spoil-sport, but I think 6,000 words is too long for this group.  Most people submit between 3500 - 4000 words.  On occasion, if the chapter runs a bit long, then +/- 5,000 words is okay. 

But I think we agreed early on that 3500 was the target.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 14, 2009, 06:51:04 PM
Well I don't have a particular problem this time.   But maybe we could just read the first 3000 and then Erik could RE-submit the other 3k as a second submission for Jason. :P

Just getting up your nose a bit there. . .

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on April 14, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Well I don't have a particular problem this time.   But maybe we could just read the first 3000 and then Erik could RE-submit the other 3k as a second submission for Jason. :P

Just getting up your nose a bit there. . .

:P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 14, 2009, 09:19:38 PM
Well, my first Reading Excuses submission was 5600 words (I'm pretty sure), so I don't have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 19, 2009, 07:00:05 AM
I'd like to submit on Monday if that's okay.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on April 19, 2009, 08:01:50 AM
I'd also like to submit on Monday. I need a deadline to motivate me to finish my story. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 19, 2009, 07:28:40 PM
You're both down for Monday.

Hey, maybe I'll sack up and submit Monday -

Oh wait. That's tomorrow.

Never mind.

::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: jwdenzel on April 22, 2009, 12:13:14 AM
FYI - I've been asked to read somebody's entire novel and give critical feedback. (They have a rare opportunity to get it in front of some well known editors)  That will be keeping me busy for a while.

So if I'm quiet for a bit, that's why. 

J
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on April 22, 2009, 07:32:34 PM
well, it's been two forevers and a day since I submitted, but I think I will on Monday if that's alright with everyone. I'm getting close enough to the end of the semester that I have fewer assignments due every friggin' minute of every $#%#E hour of every stinkin' day.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 22, 2009, 08:11:39 PM
Sure.

I'll be finished my book by then... Guess I should put myself down as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on April 22, 2009, 08:24:30 PM
Go ahead and put me down for Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 22, 2009, 08:56:26 PM
It's going to be a retread, but I'd like to submit my revisions to Fateless to Reading Excuses for Monday, since the final thing is due next Wednesday ;)

Ideally I will get started on a novel this summer, so you'll get more regular submissions from me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on April 22, 2009, 11:58:57 PM
Silk, you've really written/are going to write 50K words this past week and before monday? Who do you think you are, Isaac Asimov?  :o

;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 23, 2009, 12:24:50 AM
No. I write fantasy, not sci-fi :P

Hey, if I can write 25,000 words in a day...

(My first NaNoWriMo this year was an... interesting experience. :P)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: wcarter4 on April 23, 2009, 02:00:52 AM
Anyone can write 25,000 words in a day Silk. The question is can they combine those words to form a lucid, coherent story that a reader would be interested in. Otherwise one simply has to push buttons on a key board like so I I I I I I a a a a a a a a a you you you you we we we we we we we we we we we they they they they or or or and you get the idea...

that being said, if you can reach that goal. well, I tip my hat to you.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 23, 2009, 02:02:33 AM
I don't cheat. ::) Where'd be the fun in that?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 23, 2009, 02:52:12 AM
. . .ll work and no play make Jack a dull boy.  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  All work and no play makes J. . .
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 23, 2009, 02:54:51 AM
XD

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

The truly astonishing thing was those 25,000 words I wrote in one day were the most fun I have ever had writing. Before or since.

Work and play = not mutually exclusive

:D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 28, 2009, 06:26:59 AM
My submission will probably be done tomorrow, unfortunately. Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on May 02, 2009, 05:53:53 PM
I'd like to post this Monday if I can.

Still working on my short story, but I've knocked out a few chapters for Sword of Worlds
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on May 03, 2009, 12:53:00 AM
I would also like to submit Monday, though it may be later on in the afternoon or evening before I can get my submission sent out.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 03, 2009, 01:59:58 AM
That's not allowed, you have to submit right at Monday, 12:00am if you want to submit. ::)

...Ahem.

Got you guys down for Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on May 03, 2009, 02:40:50 AM
*pthththtb!*
 :D ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 03, 2009, 03:09:20 AM
XD

What's more, you have to submit by midnight on a particular time zone - but I'm not telling you which one. You have to guess. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on May 03, 2009, 03:50:20 AM
*ahem*mountain*ahem*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on May 03, 2009, 01:14:10 PM
After much prayer, fretting and helpful advice, I've decided to submit this week if  I may. :)

This is a long submission.  It's from a novel I started in 2005.  Unorthodox forematter demands that I include enough of the story to put it all into perspective.  If I submitted this material in 3.5K chunks it would be confusing.  The length of this first chunk is just under 7.5K.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 03, 2009, 07:25:45 PM
You're on the list.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on May 03, 2009, 07:37:16 PM
You're on the list.

lol that sounds so creepy...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 03, 2009, 07:58:36 PM
Dun Dun DUNNNNN.

*ominous music*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dangerbutton on May 06, 2009, 08:27:33 PM
After several month's on break, I'm ready to submit again. I've got a story I've been working on, bit by bit, during the semester, but now that it's over I should be able to get a regular writing schedule going. So, uh, put me down for submitting again. . . .
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 06, 2009, 08:29:58 PM
Welcome back. You're up for this Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on May 09, 2009, 04:13:17 AM
I think I may actually be able to get a chapter done for this submission. I know I haven't been around for a while, but put me up for monday please!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on May 10, 2009, 01:21:21 PM
Since it's just Hamster and Dangerbutton so far, I'll go ahead with Chap. 3  It's under the limit btw. ;P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 10, 2009, 04:45:20 PM
Okay.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on May 11, 2009, 02:22:58 AM
what no semi threatening line involving lists?  I'm disappointed!
:P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Necroben on May 13, 2009, 07:15:30 PM
I have to apologize that I haven't been active here lately.  I've got a lot on my plate with work, side jobs, and teaching.  I haven't forgotten y'all and I'm trying to get most of these stories read.  I look forward to all the new stuff coming in.  Sorry again.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 13, 2009, 08:05:22 PM
Don't worry about it - we've had a few people duck out of the group for a while.  Get back to us when you're ready. :)

Renoard: Sorry, I guess I just don't have all that many semi-threatening remarks stored up (usually when I want to threaten someone, I just bang my boxing gloves together, but that doesn't work very well over the Internet, or when you're  not wearing boxing gloves). I can just repeat the old "on the list" remark if you want. Or you could just have a nice DUN DUN DUUNNN.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on May 13, 2009, 08:30:54 PM
Are you saying that you aren't typing with boxing gloves on? Ridiculous!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 13, 2009, 08:40:00 PM
Yeah, I'm a revolutionary that way.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Reaves on May 13, 2009, 08:43:11 PM
I'll be away from RE, ideally for about two months, but I'll be back. Hopefully I'll be able to do some critiques every now and then :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on May 15, 2009, 09:22:25 PM
I'd like to submit on Monday the 18th. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on May 16, 2009, 12:00:12 AM
I'd like to submit on Monday the 18th. :)

You're on the list!

Or you would be, if I had the ability to edit the list. Really, I just wanted to steal Silk's line.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on May 18, 2009, 11:17:54 AM
Well we've got raven and Chrisdaddy apparently. Given that's it's monday morning, it's a bit late, but can you put me on the list for part one ch4?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 19, 2009, 04:06:07 AM
Go for it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on May 26, 2009, 08:28:59 AM
With so many of you busy with the party and the convention I wasn't sure about submitting this week.  But monday has come and gone, so I guess I'll send out part 2 of ch. 4.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on May 30, 2009, 05:04:14 AM
I'd like to submit on Monday, please.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Writerainge on June 01, 2009, 08:39:04 PM
Hello!  I am an aspiring novelist  who would like to be added to the e-mail list...
My e-mail address is .   

Please feel free to contact me at any time.
Thanks!
~MM
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 01, 2009, 09:06:58 PM
Just because I know people will be disappointed if I don't say it...

You're on the list.

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on June 02, 2009, 07:15:07 AM
Silk Please add me.  Since there are only 3 submissions so far and it's still monday here, I'll submit my next bit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: PW on June 05, 2009, 10:37:53 PM
I also am in.  [email protected]
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on June 06, 2009, 12:16:24 AM
It's been a while since I've been on the list, so I would like to submit this week too please
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 06, 2009, 12:32:36 AM
PW, are you also wanting to submit Monday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: PW on June 06, 2009, 03:24:59 AM
I will want to submit eventually, but my latest piece is still a work in progress.  Is this also the link to read the work of others, or was I posting in the wrong place?

And who should I speak to if I am ready to submit?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on June 06, 2009, 04:28:03 AM
For reading others stuff, if your email is on the list, then you should get people's submissions. If you want to submit your own stuff, then you have to post on this thread asking Silk to put you down for submitting this week. Oh, and it usually has to be before the Monday(which is the due date). I say usually because lately it's been getting a little lax and sometimes you can post the day after.

 In case you haven't read it, here's a link to the basic 'How to' for submitting and such: http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6850.0.

Welcome to Reading Excuses PW, great to have you here!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 06, 2009, 04:38:57 AM
It's been a little lax lately because we've been trending towards fewer submissions, but yes, for form's sake, before the Monday when you want to submit, post here.

Thanks Hamster :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: PW on June 06, 2009, 05:00:33 AM
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on June 06, 2009, 07:56:29 AM
And PW gets to be the first person to read the new and improved "Welcome to Reading Excuses" thread that I wrote! Because the last one happened to be, you know, three topics instead of one. Hopefully it's clear enough, but if it's at all confusing, let me know :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SomeHackWriter on June 10, 2009, 07:48:55 PM
I just wandered in here. Am I lost?

I think this is a great idea.  Can I get my name added to the list?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 10, 2009, 07:52:56 PM
You're on the list.

(What? It's a classic!)

Welcome.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on June 10, 2009, 07:55:29 PM
It is a classic, and welcome, Hack.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SomeHackWriter on June 10, 2009, 08:07:40 PM
Sorry, I've missed the joke - what is a classic?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on June 10, 2009, 08:12:37 PM
Silk always says "You're on the list." It's been imitated, but never duplicated!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SomeHackWriter on June 10, 2009, 08:15:13 PM
Ha ha. I R N00b.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on June 10, 2009, 08:19:02 PM
Naw, it's ok. We were all new at some point. Post up in the introductions thread here and in the main forum and you'll make friends quickly! :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 10, 2009, 08:24:22 PM
Apparently people are disappointed when I don't make semi-threatening remarks about lists, and I'm a kind soul who hates to disappoint. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on June 10, 2009, 08:29:59 PM
Also, these are the threads you should post in for more love, Hack:

Your Background (RE introductions thread) (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6244.0)
Introduce yourself - right on! (forum introductions thread) (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.0)

This is a good post to read:

Welcome to Reading Excuses! (basically a RE FAQ) (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6850.0)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SomeHackWriter on June 10, 2009, 08:33:38 PM
If it makes you feel any better, you can call me dirty names and threaten me with physical harm.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on June 10, 2009, 08:36:20 PM
Why would we call you names? These stupid titles (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6638.0) do that already. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 10, 2009, 08:45:24 PM
So does your forum handle, for that matter. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SomeHackWriter on June 10, 2009, 08:47:08 PM
If I ever get published I might change it to NoLongerSomeHackWriter or SlightlyCompensatedHackWriter.  But until then, I just like the sound of it, lol.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on June 10, 2009, 08:54:59 PM
You could be UsedToBeSomeHackWriter. Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 12, 2009, 10:31:23 PM
Haha. Nice!

We should all get Used To Be Names at some point. Our favourite former bookstore guy can start a trend.

I think I'm going to stick myself on the list for Monday. Maybe it will motivate me to actually get this whole darn story together. Even if it's crap. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on June 13, 2009, 11:17:38 PM
Provided I can get some characterization issues sorted out by Monday, I would like to submit. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 14, 2009, 06:42:02 AM
I think I need to get a hotkey for this or something.

You're on the list.

Which is good, I was feeling lonely. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on June 14, 2009, 10:59:30 PM
I think I need to get a hotkey for this or something.

You're on the list.

Which is good, I was feeling lonely. ::)

Too bad this forum isn't Invisionfree. I could create a moderation tool on there which would allow you to do that.

No fair, SomeHackWriter. I was trying to be a hack writer ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 15, 2009, 01:22:48 AM
Can you even be a hack writer if you're actually, you know, trying?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on June 15, 2009, 03:22:37 AM
*sigh* My submission will probably be late- as in, early to mid evening.  (Just can't get my head wrapped around the characters...)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 15, 2009, 04:22:24 AM
It's okay. I said I would submit Monday. I must've been out of my mind.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Miang on June 15, 2009, 05:25:03 AM
Please add my email to the list.

 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SomeHackWriter on June 15, 2009, 08:49:39 PM
Silk, I don't want anyone to get their hopes up, lol.

Question on etiquette: Is there a forum here for writers to direct interested parties to other sites where they have work posted?  Or is that uncouth?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 15, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
Haha. Fair enough.

The "Rants and Stuff" category says you can "shamelessly plug your own website" if you so desire. Or, you could stick something like that in the Your Background post if it's writing specific, or something like that.

My submission may be late. I may not submit at all. I was kind of hoping to have a complete story by now, not a half-finished waste of space. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on June 15, 2009, 10:50:45 PM
*laughs shamelessly at Silk*

There are still 10 minutes of Monday left hereabouts, but I just couldn't wait.  ;D

Incidentally, would you be so kind as to strike my name from the list of readers? It's taken me long enough, but I've been fairly productive these last days and I'll be wanting to submit something presently, maybe even next week. Glee!

Good thing, too, because starting tomorrow I'll probably be hopelessly bogged down by uni again. Glorious excuses, what would I do without you. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 15, 2009, 10:53:28 PM
There are still nine hours of Monday left where I'm from. ::)

And sure.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on June 15, 2009, 11:08:16 PM
You furriners with your strange clocks... :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Stormcryst on June 16, 2009, 02:13:20 AM
Please add me to the list      thanks
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Liathiana on June 20, 2009, 05:38:08 AM
I would love to be added to the reading list!

My email is:
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on June 20, 2009, 08:08:32 PM
Silly me, nearly forgot this part: put me on the list for Monday, please!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 20, 2009, 08:26:57 PM
People are on whichever lists are appropriate. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on June 27, 2009, 03:58:36 AM
I'm gonna hold off at least another week before submitting chapter five.  Let me just say that again- I will NOT be submitting anything on Monday! So don't look for anything from me! :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on June 28, 2009, 04:21:53 AM
Aw. No lizards?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ApocRK on July 01, 2009, 01:41:25 AM
This looks great, I always wanted to be a part of something like this but since I live in a 'new' town a lot of these things really don't exist and the towns populace is mostly made up of foreigners trying to pursue their college goals.  (new jersey, alot of schools)

  (yes i know, weird email :P its an inside joke)

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on July 01, 2009, 02:15:57 AM
Welcome!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 03, 2009, 09:29:19 PM
Hi there. Sorry for the delay in getting you on the list; I've been without a 'Net connection for a few days.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 03, 2009, 11:22:35 PM
Hey, Silk, can you remove M from the main email list? I sent an email about that, but I can't edit the topic directly.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 04, 2009, 12:51:28 AM
Already done.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 04, 2009, 01:44:49 AM
Thanks much. Why have you been without internet recently?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 04, 2009, 03:15:33 AM
My modem was fried. Went down midafternoon Tuesday, I  didn't feel like dealing with the ISP so procrastinated calling them (it worked - my brother called instead), they told us we needed a new one but the kiosk in town was closed on Wednesday for Canada day. I then spent forty minutes on hold on Thursday so that I could have a three-minute conversation with a customer service rep, 'cuz it's not like they have it in the phone book or anything, and by the time we found the place (because instead of having its own building, it's inside some appliance store). By this point I'd made plans to meet a friend and wasn't going to spend another forty minutes on the phone waiting for them to activate the stupid modem.

My brother must have done that this morning. About time, too, because if I'd had to endure any more of his moping about how there was nothing to do without the Internet, I would have moved out.  -.-
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on July 05, 2009, 03:22:24 AM
Yay for new modems!   :D  Good to have you back.

... And I would like to submit again on Monday the 6th.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 06, 2009, 08:10:03 PM
Thanks! Now that I'm back, I'm leaving again.

Just so everyone knows, I'm heading out for a week tomorrow - I'll be back next Monday. (Or possibly Tuesday. I expect the first thing I will want to do when I get home is NOT turn on the computer.) So if anyone has any questions or issues, make sure you direct them to Chaos and not me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on July 07, 2009, 01:46:13 AM
Ok, have fun! :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on July 08, 2009, 10:35:04 PM
Chaos, who is M? I keep my own list because my email provider doesn't allow me to CC or BCC that many people.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ApocRK on July 08, 2009, 11:21:07 PM
Chaos, who is M? I keep my own list because my email provider doesn't allow me to CC or BCC that many people.

Create a gmail, their limit is like 300+ I think.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 09, 2009, 12:24:52 AM
That's right, you're on a listserv. I remember you saying that. M's email is 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ApocRK on July 09, 2009, 03:25:40 AM
Hey guys, I have a question, If I want to submit something I just have say what week im going too right?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 09, 2009, 04:08:27 AM
Yup! Just post here a couple days before the Monday you'll submit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ApocRK on July 09, 2009, 05:40:16 AM
Yup! Just post here a couple days before the Monday you'll submit.

ahh ok great, I'll throw my chapter 2 down the intertubes on monday I guess. Small chapter that I was very satisfied with :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 09, 2009, 07:06:36 AM
Yup! Just post here a couple days before the Monday you'll submit.

ahh ok great, I'll throw my chapter 2 down the intertubes on monday I guess. Small chapter that I was very satisfied with :)

No chapter one? ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 09, 2009, 08:33:03 AM
I think I should submit this Monday too...Just as a heads-up (I also intend on putting this is my e-mail), it's long. It's a whole short. About 9,000 words. 33 pages....And it's due in about 2 weeks (it's for a class)....I know that's a lot. And I'm sorry....Just getting 2-3 people to read it would be fine, since it IS long....

(Oh, and Eric, you know those 2 characters you said you wanted to meet? They're both in this. One is even the MC...)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Jexral on July 09, 2009, 08:41:48 AM
I would like to join this, I think.  My E-mail is  . 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 09, 2009, 08:58:07 AM
I think I should submit this Monday too...Just as a heads-up (I also intend on putting this is my e-mail), it's long. It's a whole short. About 9,000 words. 33 pages....And it's due in about 2 weeks (it's for a class)....I know that's a lot. And I'm sorry....Just getting 2-3 people to read it would be fine, since it IS long....

(Oh, and Eric, you know those 2 characters you said you wanted to meet? They're both in this. One is even the MC...)

Cool. Normally I'd say split it, but if it's for a class (which seems to be the best Excuse on Reading Excuses thus far), send the whole thing. Reading Excuses is a pretty accommodating bunch.

I would like to join this, I think.  My E-mail is  . 

As Silk would say, you're on the list. Except, even though I'm a moderator, I actually don't have the power to edit Silk's first post and actually add you to the list. She'll be back soon though. For all intents and purposes, you are a RE member (which means you can submit), so if you want to critique anything and you don't get the email, just ask for it. We're a pretty accommodating bunch.

Hey, repetition. Cool! :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ApocRK on July 09, 2009, 06:41:05 PM
Yup! Just post here a couple days before the Monday you'll submit.

ahh ok great, I'll throw my chapter 2 down the intertubes on monday I guess. Small chapter that I was very satisfied with :)

No chapter one? ;)

Its a little.... jolty :P

Chapter 1 and 2 are both the start of the two MC's storylines so you can read them in any order. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 09, 2009, 07:18:26 PM
Aha, that makes sense. I look forward to your submission!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: manji on July 10, 2009, 02:46:12 PM
Hi, I would like to join! My email is  .
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 12, 2009, 04:11:23 AM
You're on the list, manji. Same thing goes for you as Jexral, as I said above:

I would like to join this, I think.  My E-mail is  . 

As Silk would say, you're on the list. Except, even though I'm a moderator, I actually don't have the power to edit Silk's first post and actually add you to the list. She'll be back soon though. For all intents and purposes, you are a RE member (which means you can submit), so if you want to critique anything and you don't get the email, just ask for it. We're a pretty accommodating bunch.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 14, 2009, 05:27:03 AM
New names have been added to the list.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on July 16, 2009, 02:02:58 AM
I'm going to submit from my "new" story on Monday. It's been so long, but hopefully it will be worth it. Maybe. You'll have to tell me. :-\
Oh, and welcome to all our fresh meat newbies! :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ApocRK on July 18, 2009, 01:13:26 AM
I'll send something Monday too. this chapter is a bit long, about 6k words, should I split it up for two weeks or all at once?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 18, 2009, 01:47:19 AM
If there's no logical split point, may as well give us the whole thing. 6k isn't too bad.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 18, 2009, 10:09:24 PM
I might have something ready for Monday, so put me on the list regardless. If I don't make it, feel free to throw apples at me  ;D It depends on how fast I work today and tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 19, 2009, 08:39:35 PM
Wait, if you don't make it, Chaos, shouldn't the ELC laugh at you? I thought that was their whole point. And they don't get a lot of use...I should know. I'm part of it (We really need to start back up that "The Wedding" thread...classic).

And I could submit on Monday, but I think I'm going to wait a week....Since I just submitted something last week, and it's really not that crucial....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 19, 2009, 08:42:42 PM
We don't have that many people submitting. If you want to, go for it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 19, 2009, 08:44:03 PM
Well, that works too, I guess...I mean, mine is really short...not even 2k...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 19, 2009, 09:29:57 PM
Wait, if you don't make it, Chaos, shouldn't the ELC laugh at you? I thought that was their whole point. And they don't get a lot of use...I should know. I'm part of it (We really need to start back up that "The Wedding" thread...classic).

And I could submit on Monday, but I think I'm going to wait a week....Since I just submitted something last week, and it's really not that crucial....

I forgot who was even getting married in that thread.

Obviously, it should be Silk and I.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 19, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
But I'm too young to die...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 19, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
Sortitus and Hayley.....But that could be fun. We could restart it and have it be you 2! Yes! I love it!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 19, 2009, 09:34:04 PM
But I'm too young to die...

I think I'm gonna cry...  :'(

:P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 19, 2009, 09:37:20 PM
What? Knowing death is equivalent to marrying you isn't comforting? Geez. So picky...:P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 19, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
I know, right? So hard to find good ones these days.

Besides, I'm supposed to make you cry. I am, after all, the Editor.

(Okay, not in any official capacity. But shhh!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 19, 2009, 10:53:38 PM
Not yet in any official capacity. Not yet :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on July 19, 2009, 11:00:20 PM
If it's not to late, I'd like to submit, too.

And Chaos, don't go giving her ideas. ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 19, 2009, 11:13:25 PM
Go for it, Flo.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2009, 02:41:14 AM
Hmmm... I don't think I'm submitting tomorrow. ;D

Commence apples and evil laughter...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 20, 2009, 03:15:24 AM
*pelts Chaos with apples*

Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on July 20, 2009, 07:32:14 AM
Looks like chapter eleven will be done for tomorrow. Anyone mind if I submit?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2009, 06:35:03 PM
Yes, I do mind!

Oh wait, you already submitted ;) Haha.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on July 20, 2009, 07:13:48 PM
Sorry man, you have to be old enough to drink in order to object. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 20, 2009, 07:23:50 PM
I told him to do it to pick up the slack for some other lazy guy who said he was going to submit and didn't.

:D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 20, 2009, 08:01:37 PM
I told him to do it to pick up the slack for some other lazy guy who said he was going to submit and didn't.

:D

Heh. In your face, Chaos.....I mean, other lazy guy...not to name names or anything. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2009, 08:09:23 PM
Sorry man, you have to be old enough to drink in order to object. :D

I can drink.

...in Mexico.


Seriously, guys, this is the best evil laughing chorus you have? This is just tame ;) Though I suppose I will get crap until next submission date.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 20, 2009, 08:43:29 PM
Hey! I laughed! And I've made fun of you. I'm doing my part in the chorus...No one else is, though. Darn them. *shakes fist*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on July 20, 2009, 08:45:15 PM
I can drink.

...in Mexico.
And pretty much everywhere else in the world that isn't the US, for that matter. Which brings us to why our evil laughs are rubbish: we're all far too drunk for that sort of thing. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 20, 2009, 08:49:08 PM
Hmm. Yes. Hence why mine is the only non-rubbish evil laugh--I'm the only sober one here. Fantastic (and yet very humorous for me...I remember the last time I was with drunk people on this forum. Over in stupid titles. It ended with the drunkies going snowboarding naked and slamming into trees. Ah. Good times, good times).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2009, 08:59:25 PM
Hmm. Yes. Hence why mine is the only non-rubbish evil laugh--I'm the only sober one here. Fantastic (and yet very humorous for me...I remember the last time I was with drunk people on this forum. Over in stupid titles. It ended with the drunkies going snowboarding naked and slamming into trees. Ah. Good times, good times).

Surprising, yet inevitable... :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 20, 2009, 09:11:34 PM
I've been making fun of him. I also offered to punch him in the face!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on July 20, 2009, 09:14:08 PM
I've been making fun of him. I also offered to punch him in the face!

LOL, and she says Americans are violent!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 20, 2009, 09:23:10 PM
Hey, he brought it up first. I was just trying to help!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 20, 2009, 09:24:09 PM
Canadians are SO much worse....

(and for those curious about the aforementioned naked snowboarding, here's the link (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=5808.msg133851#msg133851))
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2009, 09:29:20 PM
I did bring up the punching, honestly. Also, I would not care if I was beat up by a girl if said girl was Silk. Boxing for five years? Yeah, she'd win.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on July 20, 2009, 09:30:25 PM
Canadians are SO much worse...
And so much easier to make fun of, eh?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on July 20, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
Plus, her name is Silk....You can't forget where (and why) she got that name from.

And Flo--yes. Definitely. Impossible to miss that target painted on their backs...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 20, 2009, 10:34:18 PM
The problem with the target is that it hits back. It's ...reflex.

(Seriously, don't sneak up behind me. Ever. Bad idea.)

I can change my handle back to Raethe if Silk is too intimidating for you folks. =P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 20, 2009, 10:52:09 PM
The problem with the target is that it hits back. It's ...reflex.

(Seriously, don't sneak up behind me. Ever. Bad idea.)

But that's my only hope! The backstab does x2 damage!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 21, 2009, 12:24:16 AM
Not as much damage as I'd do if you startled me enough to send you flying across the room. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 21, 2009, 12:40:22 AM
Note to self: work on dagger throwing skill  ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 21, 2009, 01:10:56 AM
You? Skills?

Pfffffffft.




;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on July 23, 2009, 06:39:06 PM
Aww.... Mommy and Daddy are fighting again. I guess now would be a bad time to ask for an allowance.... :P

I got my chapter done and would like to submit again on Monday. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 23, 2009, 07:34:57 PM
Sure, but I might have to say something mean to you for that comment. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on July 23, 2009, 10:31:23 PM
And that's a change from the ordinary, how?  :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on July 24, 2009, 01:42:15 AM
Silk just wishes she still had an allowance . . .
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 24, 2009, 05:26:41 AM
Frog: I can say nice and useless things if you prefer. Or maybe if you DON'T prefer. Muaahaha!

Erik: Hey, if it helps pay the tuition...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 25, 2009, 07:23:12 AM
I'm submitting this Monday. For reals, I swear.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on July 25, 2009, 03:25:06 PM
I was going to say something along the lines of "Chaos can't be trusted" but then I realized that there has never been a more obvious statement....  ::)

Silk:  :o
Noooooo!

I'm sorry. I won't make fun of you two arguing ever again.

Maybe.

Or at least I'll think long and hard about it and feel real bad afterwords.   :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 25, 2009, 08:30:52 PM
That'll do. I suppose. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on August 01, 2009, 09:56:29 PM
I haven't managed to read (let alone critique) any of this week's submissions, and I probably won't critique anything for the next two weeks, either, but I'd still like to submit next week, if it's all right.

I'll try and catch up again afterwards, I promise. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ApocRK on August 02, 2009, 07:04:03 PM
Hey guys sorry that I havn't done any critiquing in the last 2 weeks, Its been very busy here at my house. I promise I will get around to in next week and then maybe submit something the following week. (Gotta see how things play out here at my house.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on August 02, 2009, 08:37:38 PM
I'd like to submit tomorrow as well.

More The Sword of Worlds, its the titanic battle between Kajsa and the Draken!  :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 06, 2009, 11:44:02 PM
If I may be so humble, I would like to join this group as well.  I'd like to read/critique a few times before submitting my own work so that I ensure I don't break any cardinal rules. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 06, 2009, 11:53:25 PM
That's probably wise. We throw things at people who break cardinal rules.

(I almost typed "people who MAKE cardinal rules" instead of "break". Coincidence? I think not!)

Oh, and...

You're On The List.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 07, 2009, 05:23:23 AM
Many thanks!  And, just in case, I'll start practicing dodging stuff. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on August 07, 2009, 08:33:08 AM
Why would anyone want to break Cardinal Rules? That's horrible! The poor, poor man.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 07, 2009, 08:37:20 AM
You're right, Cardinal rules never hurt anyone... except altar boys, but I'm way past that stage!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on August 07, 2009, 08:41:37 AM
None of that stood up in court. He was never convicted of anything. >:(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 07, 2009, 03:28:00 PM
Please, oh please may I join?  I can't submit anything just yet (I have a crazy weekend ahead), but I may be able to squeaze in some critiquing time.  My email address is 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 09, 2009, 05:48:49 AM
Oh, look at all the nice, polite people joining up. I'll give them a week before they're dragged down to my level of snark. 8)

I'm submitting on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 10, 2009, 02:47:46 PM
Oh come on, your radar is way off.  Anytime someone with a Terry Pratchett userpic says "Please, oh please . . ." anything, you should know they are, by definition, already being snarky.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 10, 2009, 03:22:45 PM
I guess I can believe that. Though, I've still yet to read Pratchett. It's on my list! :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: westwriter on August 11, 2009, 10:12:56 PM
I would like to submit the first chapter of a fantasy book called, "Heroes of the Necrowar" on Monday.
 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 12, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
I had a couple of questions:

1)  What do you do with people who are on the email list, but haven't submitted anything in like, six months?  Does the list ever get trimmed down?

2) Is there a more user-friendly way to paste all those email addresses into your email browser?  Or do I need to put them in a word document and then edit out the names?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 12, 2009, 08:09:25 PM
I've been thinking that the list is probably due for a trimming of some sort. In the next little while I'll probably just send out an email to everyone and ask them to respond if they don't want to be on the list anymore, or something.

And at the moment, I'm afraid it's just a copy-paste deal. There's been some of using google-groups for the list, but not everyone was too comfortable with that. I might look into a listserv or something.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 12, 2009, 08:22:45 PM
It would probably be better to make people respond to stay on the list.  Gets rid of unused email accounts.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 12, 2009, 08:27:38 PM
That probably would be a good idea, Strider. As long as she gives them a bit of a window and doesn't conveniently ignore the email from the frog. Because that would just be rude. :P

Oh, and Cynic, I have hotmail and if you copy and paste the addresses into the bar, it gets rid of the names on its own. I don't know if it works for all servers, but it is worth a shot. Only problem is I keep forgetting to delete my own address and get spammed... by myself. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 12, 2009, 08:34:03 PM
Another option is use an actual mailing list.  That way people can add/remove themselves from the list.  It also had the added advantage of hiding email addresses and making it so you only send it to one email and it goes to everyone.  We can also give the option of keeping archives so new readers can catch up on an artists works.  The other option is to make a private forum and posting there.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 12, 2009, 08:50:13 PM
I would be opposed to a private forum to post the actual submissions. Forum security isn't all that great, I don't want to worry about screwing up any publication rights.

Our Google Groups plan was similar to the mailing list strategy, though, but people didn't want to be forced into having a Google account. Do you have other protocols you'd suggest, stridera?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 12, 2009, 09:47:04 PM
If you're worried about forum security, then any similar group security would be equally compromised.  Setting up a mailing list is fairly simple.  I can create one pretty quick on my server and set it up so only the people on the list can send email to it, etc.  This comes down to having someone manage it (so we don't get just anyone joining the list) but I don't see how that's very different than what we have now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 12, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Agreed. Hit me up on IM and we should discuss this more, probably via MSN, because this way Silk can join in on the conversation.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 13, 2009, 12:20:26 AM
Always happy to utlize the expertise of others, especially when it means less effort for me.

I'm "away" on messenger right now 'cause I'm not feeling particularly chatty, but hit me up if you wanna talk shop :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 13, 2009, 01:22:34 AM
Silk prefers to harass me via Twitter, apparently ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 13, 2009, 02:44:49 PM
I'd like to submit a piece on Monday.  The title is... in fluctuation at the moment.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 13, 2009, 02:48:47 PM
And by "in fluctuation" I mean it's actually changing; the title is not "in fluctuation".  And by "actually changing" I mean that I don't know what it is yet; the actual title is not "actually changing".  Well, it is... but you get the point.   :P

I should never post in the morning before I've had some caffeine.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on August 13, 2009, 03:10:22 PM
So the title is "not actually changing", right?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 13, 2009, 03:15:37 PM
So the title is "not actually changing", right?

Exactly.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 13, 2009, 06:54:19 PM
Westwriter and Recovering Cynic are on for Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 13, 2009, 08:01:47 PM
Just a heads up for everyone, some of the submissions aren't making it to my email box.  I think what's happening is that the people who have been doing submissions for awhile aren't getting the names off the fresh list, so the newcomers aren't getting copied on their stories.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 13, 2009, 08:42:44 PM
Hopefully we create a solution that fixes this. 

Silk, I haven't seen you online.  You want to msg me when you can?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 13, 2009, 09:13:44 PM
If you guys come up with something new, when will it go into effect?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 13, 2009, 10:44:15 PM
Soon! We are lazy that way, so the sooner we can get lazier, the better ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 13, 2009, 10:53:49 PM
What he said.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 13, 2009, 11:15:23 PM
Er, I mean, so we have more time to write.  ::)

I'm talking with stridera and things are moving along very nicely. We also have www.readingexcuses.com, which is pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on August 13, 2009, 11:26:19 PM
We also have www.readingexcuses.com, which is pretty sweet.

Now if only that led somewhere. ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 13, 2009, 11:45:28 PM
It'll get there :P

One of these days I'll try and get an ad to appear on Writing Excuses for us. That'd be cool.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 13, 2009, 11:47:11 PM
It'll get there :P


Just don't ask me to build the website, please - -;

:P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 13, 2009, 11:55:22 PM
Did we end up sending that email to get rid of inactive members? Because if not, we should hold off on it until we get the new list set up. That way the email can just consist of instructions to get a person on the list ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 13, 2009, 11:58:17 PM
No, I didn't send out an email yet, this being precisely why. :P

Great minds...small minds...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 14, 2009, 06:18:23 AM
Yikes!  I guess I should have read this before sending out that email.  My bad.

And, why the hate, Flo!  I bought the domain at lunch and got it setup by dinner!  Isn't that quick enough? :P

So yea, the domain has been created and I made a list [email protected]  I was actually coming here to make sure people received it, but I guess we might have a different path to take.  I'll let Silk decide the path.  She'll have full admin access to the list once she pings me again.  Either way, if you're on the list and you didn't get the email I sent (check spam folder) let me know.

Other things, if anyone wants a readingexcuses.com email address, msg me (via im/pm/email) and ask for one.  Everyone might want to take advantage of this since it will give access to the docs/calendar/sites as well.  I'm not sure if we'll use them, but if nothing else, the email is cool enough. :)

I put up a little filler website for now.  If anyone is artsy and wants to create the images/design for the site, let me know!  Otherwise, enjoy.

And remember, if nothing else, at least now you only have to remember one email address! ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 14, 2009, 07:13:28 AM
Give me admin access, too :P

I at least got the email. I can send off a more official email, I suppose. How would people opt out of the list, or how can we remove people from the list? (Feel free to PM me with the answer, it's bed time for me)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 14, 2009, 07:14:10 AM
I already did!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on August 14, 2009, 07:21:59 AM
We could add a field on the website for signing up and removing yourself from the list.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 14, 2009, 07:29:10 AM
The way it's currently setup would make that difficult.  One option is to make everyone create a @readingexcuses.com account and we'll only send it to the people on the list.  This might be good because then people could put up their whole works in docs.re.com and that way new people can catch up on older stuff.  (This is also pretty secure since only people with an account can access them.)  People would need to setup their email accounts to forward the emails to their real email address though, which is an extra step for the users... (or they can just use mail.re.com)  What do people think?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on August 14, 2009, 08:07:12 AM
And, why the hate, Flo!  I bought the domain at lunch and got it setup by dinner!  Isn't that quick enough? :P

Bah, initiative is what makes people like me look lazy. ;)

I had actually thought the domain would merely forward to here, but I suppose a proper website works as well.  As to the entire account business, I'd opt for sticking with a simple mailing list.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 14, 2009, 08:09:19 AM
I could make it forward here if we want.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 14, 2009, 03:28:05 PM
Once you guys work out the process, please update the submission instructions at the beginning.  I'll be reading those on Monday before I submit anything.  If I need an email address, can you go ahead and set me up as  , but only if I really need one.  How would I go about forwarding that address to my normal address?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 14, 2009, 07:21:41 PM
You do NOT need a new email address.  I just threw the option out there for people who wanted to use the services.  If you do want one, just go into Settings->Forwarding and POP/IMAP->Forward a copy of incoming mail to ...   That way you'll never have to check your box and you'll still get all the emails.  (I have rules to tag emails from my various accounts, like alumni/other domains/etc)

So, just to be clear, the ONLY thing that is changing is the email address.  Now we have one instead of 30.  The rest is just fluff. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on August 14, 2009, 07:24:02 PM
Cool.  I'll take the address anyway :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 14, 2009, 09:50:33 PM
Whoa, stuff happening!

I guess I shouldn't've gone to bed/done laundry/lost my internet connection :P

Anyway, my plan for whittling down the email list was to send everyone on our current list the signup instructions and tell them that if they still want to participate, they'll have to sign up for the new list.  Does that still need to be done? Let me know. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 14, 2009, 10:23:43 PM
Silk and Chaos are signed up and setup as administers.  I'm stepping back and letting them take control of the domain.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 15, 2009, 12:02:38 AM
Thanks a bunch, Strider!

New email list should be set up and ready to go.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2009, 12:23:59 AM
Strider, until we get an actual website, how about readingexcuses.com just directs to http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?board=29.0. That'd probably be the easiest thing to do.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on August 15, 2009, 12:46:14 AM
Allowing signup on the site is probably a bad idea. If you force people to come through TWG, it will eliminate spamming. Hopefully. Just have them register here and post in this thread to get invited or whatever. Also, if we now have this hidden list, we should destroy our email address listings here. So nobody gets confused and does it the hard way, and so that those of us who are paranoid can rest assured of our continued interweb security.

The Writing Excuses forum is a hidden forum of sorts. Only registered members can see it, though there's no group restriction on it. And now Silk has made a thread. I'm going to eat.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 15, 2009, 12:56:17 AM
Sortitus makes a good point RE signing up on the (theoretical) website. And anyone joining would still have to sign up for the forum anyway, to participate in the discussion.

Way ahead of you, though, already modified the first post with the new reading excuses email address. (Scrambled.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2009, 12:57:43 AM
I'll PM Fell to take Reading Excuses off of a "hidden forum" into a regular one. That was a protective measure for the Email List, and now that we can hide that info, no trouble there.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 15, 2009, 01:00:19 AM
Well, it still does have our email addresses.... It's just indirectly now. Anyway, I kind of like it being hidden from all the lurkers... But that could just be me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2009, 01:04:43 AM
I like it much better this way, too.

PM sent to Fell. Things are moving nicely.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 15, 2009, 01:08:21 AM
No, I meant I liked having the forum hidden from lurkers on the site, but if you don't like it, that's fine. At least the emails are gone. And I can erase my old entry one too. That was so long ago.... I was so cute and innocent then... :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2009, 01:11:36 AM
Then you came here, where we abused you with our snark.

Well, I think it can't hurt to show off Reading Excuses publicly...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 15, 2009, 01:14:21 AM
You might want to go through all the old posts  (50-something pages.. yikes) and erase everyones emails so they don't end up on spam lists and spiders hit the site.

The other option is to delete (or hide) this thread and start fresh.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 15, 2009, 01:18:48 AM
Then you came here, where we abused you with our snark.
Yeah, because I never once contributed to it....

Well, I think it can't hurt to show off Reading Excuses publicly...
But if you do that, then you will have to give up plugging it wherever you go! The horror!

Edit: FYI: In one of the older pages, Reonard posted the full list again. I think he is the only one who could get rid of it and I don't know if he is around anymore....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2009, 01:24:09 AM
Hmmm, stridera makes a good point. I also like to point out that I think it would be awesome if this topic was the longest thread on TWG. So, y'know, let's keep it ;)

Frog - Oh, I'd still plug it! All night long.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2009, 01:46:38 AM
Silk can modify posts in topics she created (likewise with me for topics I've created). She's going around deleting the emails.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 15, 2009, 01:47:54 AM
Thanks for doing the hard work! :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 15, 2009, 01:50:38 AM
You mean, as Mods, you actually can DO something here?  :o

 :P

Thanks for that. One last question than I'll get out of your hair for awhile, I promise. Do you think we could still have a place where we listed all the members, email free, once you guys get the new list together? You know, like how we list who is submitting each week, just so we can pretend that we're organized and because I'm curious.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2009, 01:55:07 AM
Sure, that's no problem. (Says the person who can't edit any posts in this topic)

...

Ask Silk :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 15, 2009, 02:09:30 AM
Sure, if you want me to give me so much work that I throw myself off a bridge.

I was thinking of doing that anyway.

Good thinking about the emails. I don't think I missed any (except for one which it won't let me delete).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on August 15, 2009, 02:15:17 AM
How can a moderator not edit posts?  Assigning a responsibility w/o the power required to uphold that responsibility is kinda worthless... :/

[cough]  I just realized that you may not be able to edit the posts of someone with more power than you...  oops [/cough]
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 15, 2009, 02:28:46 AM
I don't really know how the "assign mod powers" works on this forum, but I DO know that for whatever reason they had a heck of a time giving us mod powers in the first place, so I haven't bugged them about it.

We can pin, lock, and move threads, which is most of what we needed to do anyway.

More power than us? What's this? Who has more power than us?!

We must find them! Find them and eliminate with extreme prejudice be very very nice to them!

*cough*

I'll be okay, folks...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on August 15, 2009, 03:58:37 AM
Then you came here, where we abused you with our snark.
Yeah, because I never once contributed to it....

You were snarky from the first hour....Threatening to beat up other members (with my help, but I'm irrelevant. It's all your fault. :P).

And wait! If this becomes the longest thread, that means it would beat Stupid Titles VI! That was an awesome thread! So much fun stuff. The Coalition, naked snowboarding, passing of fleas, enlightened glasses, Habusaki...Ah. That thread can't be beaten...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on August 15, 2009, 04:06:55 AM
Not by mortals, it can't. But we have mods. >_> <_<
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 15, 2009, 04:16:15 AM
"Mods" and "gods" end with the same three letters.

Coincidence?

I THINK NOT!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2009, 04:17:07 AM
I was elected god once. Well, not really, but when I became Hero of Ages, I declared my divinity.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on August 15, 2009, 04:39:42 AM
Methinks that's cheating, Chaos....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 15, 2009, 05:33:57 AM
You were snarky from the first hour....Threatening to beat up other members (with my help, but I'm irrelevant. It's all your fault. :P).
I threatened to hold another member. The beating was ALL you.

And wait! If this becomes the longest thread, that means it would beat Stupid Titles VI! That was an awesome thread! So much fun stuff. The Coalition, naked snowboarding, passing of fleas, enlightened glasses, Habusaki...Ah. That thread can't be beaten...
That was ages ago. It can and it will be beat. Just let it die. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on August 15, 2009, 05:41:03 AM
Just let it die.
...to create a surprising third act reveal in which we find that its death was either a stunt or barely survived, and that the thread is either the Big Bad or arrives just in time to help defeat said villain?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on August 15, 2009, 11:15:46 PM
Ok!  Wow.  Disappear for a few days and look what happens... we get a brand new website (which is a cop-out since it leads directly back here...), and a new email address so we don't have to cut and paste.  Huh.  I always got around that by putting all y'all in a separate category in my account and simply adding new addresses to that whenever new people arrived.  But I guess this is the easiest way, after all. ;)

I've been revising an old short story I'm no longer happy with.  I'm thinking of submitting that, not this coming Monday, but the next.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on August 16, 2009, 01:40:15 AM
Hmm... I just may have enough actual material by tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 20, 2009, 07:51:10 PM
Another rousing addition of the adventures of Aishia & friends headed your way on Monday. :P
(Oh, and I'm beating Wilson! Ha!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 20, 2009, 08:00:44 PM
Hoping to submit on Monday, but no promises yet, 'cause I'm also going to be away this weekend, apparently. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on August 20, 2009, 10:02:30 PM
I should be on the list for this week. 'Cause I'm awesome.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on August 21, 2009, 02:52:31 AM
(Oh, and I'm beating Wilson! Ha!)

I wish there was an emoticon that showed disgust. I would use it right now...

And no. I don't mean disgust in myself for losing currently. This disgust is all Frog-centered....My main baddie will infect your slimy-green self in some disease that will make you bloat...and then blow up. Ha! Let's see you gloat then, froggie.  ;D <--this is my version of an evil smirk. Yes. It leaves a bit to be desired and isn't nearly as good as the one on my face, but...I work with what I got.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on August 21, 2009, 03:39:58 AM
You could try this on on for size:

/run FuManchu

   O O
  ,__,
      ,

/end
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 21, 2009, 05:30:50 AM
Bleh. Unless some miracle happens, I won't be submitting on Monday.

Also, I'll be out of town until Monday. May or may not be online tomorrow morning... but yeah, play nice, kids. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 21, 2009, 05:42:14 AM
Uh, Silk. I am pretty sure that Wilson just threatened to inject me with lethal chemicals, courtesy of  her big bad, out of pure bitterness and jealously of my slimy green awesomeness  and you did nothing. So what would constitute as not nice behavior that we could possibly do while we are unsupervised that would bring down your Mod-ly wrath? And yes, I am looking for suggestions.  :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on August 21, 2009, 06:01:03 AM
But if she gives suggestions, then she can't get on your case later for it....That's not cool (however, I wouldn't be saying that if *I* were the one who had thought of it, but....oh well. And yes. That was another excuse. You helped me become the Queen of Excuses, and even though our elected mods deny my power, it's there. In your heart, Frog. You gave me this power. For that I will thank you. Right before you die. Yes. I know it's a cliche of evil overlords, but...you deserve that much  :)).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: westwriter on August 21, 2009, 03:13:42 PM
Ok if I send out chapter 2 and maybe revised chapter 1?  No more than 4000 for both.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 21, 2009, 04:35:41 PM
Go for it. :)

Maybe I should have rephrased. I didn't mean "play nice". I meant "play however you want to, so long as I don't have to clean up".

See you all Monday. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 21, 2009, 04:37:54 PM
Ah, that makes more since. Thanks for the clarification Silk. Have a good weekend. And Wilson, you are aware of what usually happens to evil overlords with made-up positions right after they make death threats, right?  8)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on August 22, 2009, 09:26:47 PM
I will be submitting on Monday... might be late in the day, but I WILL be submitting!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on August 22, 2009, 11:05:10 PM
Ah, that makes more since. Thanks for the clarification Silk. Have a good weekend. And Wilson, you are aware of what usually happens to evil overlords with made-up positions right after they make death threats, right?  8)


Made-up positions? Whatever could you mean? You're the one who gave me this. So if ANYONE made it up, it's you....But you were saying?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 23, 2009, 02:28:21 AM
And I guess I have a new name to add to my list. Queen of Excuses...All righty. I can deal.
This is you giving yourself the title. All I said is that you made a lot of excuses. I did not dub you Queen. In fact, I didn't even directly say that you made a lot of excuses, I just implied it. So yeah, it required a bit of a stretch on your part. :P

So once an evil overlord claims an ill gotten title and starts making death threats to their small but worthy adversary, it is usually in their best interest to call it quits. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on August 23, 2009, 03:15:36 AM
So you admittedly implied that I made a lot of excuses. And I think you knew that I would pick up on said implication. And since you should know by now that I tend to call myself the 'queen' of a lot of things (well. I guess not a LOT of things. Since I'm just the Queen of Slackerness, but oh well. Same dif) you should've known that by saying/implying that I use excuses overly much, I would give myself that title, and therefore you condoned said title. Because you knew I would do it.

So there. :P

And I'm no evil overlord. Do you see my title? It's pretty much the exact opposite of evil overlord. Good politician. No evil overlords here, even if I said you would die. I'm not the one doing the killing. It's just my main baddie...who I created....but I don't control him....he does things on his own....like making little froggies blow up....he gets a gleeful pleasure out of seeing frog guts spew all over the place....(ew).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on August 24, 2009, 06:35:14 AM
I'd like to post tomorrow
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on August 24, 2009, 06:36:17 AM
I'm on for _next_ week. Providing the first week of school isn't too harsh on me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on August 24, 2009, 07:20:33 AM
(ew)
My sentiments exactly. Wil, I think it is officially time for you to get out more. You and your big bad are having an identity crisis and it is kind of scary. So yeah, take a walk, smell the roses, and sure, I may continue to pull ahead of you in the writing race, but at least you'll have your health.  :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on August 24, 2009, 07:37:19 AM
My health is not NEARLY as important to me as winning this race. I just need to focus.....And heck, if my main baddie ends up meshing with me, at least that will make him easier to write. I must look at things positively here. Of course, then I would be writing a self-insert, but oh well. At least mine is more interesting than Stephenie Swan....I mean Bella Meyer...I mean...oh...never mind....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 24, 2009, 10:39:39 AM
Depending on how my 4am-8am shift goes for writing, I may submit the prologue to Rebirth.

(And if you want to know, sortitus, this is the one with the sapphires :) )
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 26, 2009, 04:39:35 AM
Operation status: fail.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on August 26, 2009, 07:15:30 AM
Aww man. Have it ready for next week, OK buddy?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 26, 2009, 07:24:40 AM
Oh, I will. It's just been crazy busy unpacking and starting college. I haven't quite got the rhythm of writing during my night shifts, either.

I think Operation "Stop telling yourself it's crap and just keep writing" will have more success :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 28, 2009, 10:14:58 AM
I will be submitting on Monday. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 28, 2009, 07:12:29 PM
I have Sortitus and Chaos down. Anyone else?

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: westwriter on August 28, 2009, 08:40:26 PM
I have 2 chapters to submit on Monday!

by the way, just call me Greg
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on August 29, 2009, 03:43:50 AM
Go ahead and put me down for Monday.  :)  It's the second first draft of a short story I wrote a while ago.  The first first draft was little more than a glorified outline, and now I've fleshed it out quite a bit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on August 30, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Me! Me! Me!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on September 01, 2009, 07:20:51 AM
Ach! I was waylaid by an English paper. I feel like an idiot because I canceled out last time, but hows about next week? *ducks*

My grand excuse: This Sucks and I'm a Horrible Writer.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 01, 2009, 07:50:12 AM
Wait, what? You put writing for RE, writing fiction, to the side over an English paper?

Administrator, can we get a Priority Check down Forum 29? Repeat, we need a Priority Check down Forum 29...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on September 02, 2009, 07:42:24 PM
I hope to have the prologue and first chapter of my book written by Monday and ready to submit. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on September 04, 2009, 02:58:09 AM
Signing up for Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: westwriter on September 04, 2009, 04:52:50 AM
I will submit on Monday, please
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 04, 2009, 04:55:18 AM
I better be submitting on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on September 04, 2009, 09:19:13 AM
Due to the high volume traffic, I'm going to have to ask that my name be removed as a reader, at least for the time being.

Thanks,
It was fun,
Renoard
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 04, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
No problem. You can, of course, come back anytime =)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on September 05, 2009, 05:07:53 AM
Uh, I'd like to remind everyone to adjust their submissions fields. My email filters the submissions and automatically saves the attachments using strings from the subject field, and I'm getting some submissions that do not even include the string "Reading Excuses", making the emails hit my normal inbox. Others just hit the folder without the date or username, which is less annoying, but still a bother.

Reading Excuses - [username] - [date] - [title] ([content tags])
If I were to submit today, the subject would look like this:
Reading Excuses - sortitus - Sep. 4, 2009 - Deimos (LS)

Complementarily closed,
Your OCD lurker/stalker/reader-that-doesn't-post
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 05, 2009, 05:47:44 AM
Yes, that's been annoying me slightly, too. Also people, remember to name your submission files in exactly the same manner, just without the "Reading Excuses" part.

While I'm nitpicking. Erik. Lordy. Please post here when you're planning to submit, okay?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on September 05, 2009, 07:02:30 AM
I've noticed that it is usually those that are grossly behind on their critiques that complain about these type of things.  ;D

Seriously, I don't see such nitpicky things as a big deal, but I shall try harder to remember so I can someday be cool enough to work into a computer program I would have no idea how to set up myself.  :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 05, 2009, 07:45:15 AM
It's easy. When you go input the Subject Line, you change it to the right format ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on September 05, 2009, 04:08:46 PM
Um... yeah now you're just being patronizing and I can't say I appreciate it. It is also very easy to click something into a folder manually like I do. But I really don't want to start a fight over something so ridiculously nitpicky, so I am going to forget this conversation ever happened and carry on with my regularly scheduled program. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 05, 2009, 08:26:47 PM
Sarcastic patronizing: just one of the services you get with Reading Excuses!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 05, 2009, 11:00:23 PM
Please put me down for Monday as well.  And I'll watch my submission technique! ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 05, 2009, 11:24:16 PM
I was sort of hoping to submit myself this Monday, but even if I get anything done (which is looking highly unlikely) I think maybe we'd better cap it at that. Jeez.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 05, 2009, 11:25:19 PM
Gasp, we've actually reached a cap!?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 05, 2009, 11:26:14 PM
Well, we have six people signed up for Monday (I thought there were seven, but still). That's about 24k words right there.

Assuming everyone sticks to 4k words, and we've been fairly nice about letting that slide. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 05, 2009, 11:36:05 PM
I'd assume Erik's submitting.

My chapter, I'm sure, is going to be shorter than 4k. If I ever pass the 1k mark, that is.

I work about nine hours tomorrow, possibly fourteen, so you never know how much progress I'll make.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 05, 2009, 11:38:49 PM
So 25-28k then. My point stands. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 05, 2009, 11:40:17 PM
Makes sense :) It's a nice change of pace to have more submissions, though. Well, except for the critiquers ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 05, 2009, 11:41:42 PM
Which would be, uh, all of us? :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on September 05, 2009, 11:46:27 PM
Which would be, uh, all of us? :P
Yeah, well that's the theory.  8)

I've submitted a lot, and mine are usually a little longer, so I can wait if you want to go Silk.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 05, 2009, 11:56:26 PM
Thanks, but unless a miracle happens I won't have anything ready by then, so go wild. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 06, 2009, 03:10:57 AM
Tell ya what... I'll sit out a week, since we've got some people submitting that haven't in a while.  It'll give me some time to incorporate all your great feedback. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: westwriter on September 06, 2009, 04:46:54 AM
I'll only send one chapter this week and mine are all short. @1900 words ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on September 06, 2009, 05:09:28 AM
Haha

Now we're scaring everyone away. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on September 06, 2009, 05:25:25 AM
I was wondering if we were going to hit a cap this week (holiday weekend and everything).  Could we encourage everyone to post early enough on Monday that we can take advantage of the free time (those of us who have it)?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 06, 2009, 10:24:34 AM
Yeah, now we're scaring everyone off. That wasn't my intent, guys. (It's my CRITIQUES that are meant to scare people.) Seriously, there's no need for anyone to submit less than they'd planned. I just meant to give a heads-up that we probably wouldn't be adding anyone else for this week. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 06, 2009, 01:16:09 PM
I was wondering if we were going to hit a cap this week (holiday weekend and everything).  Could we encourage everyone to post early enough on Monday that we can take advantage of the free time (those of us who have it)?

In the beginning of Reading Excuses, a lot of people would submit right when Sunday changed over into Monday.

I'll plan to send mine out as soon as it's done, which, considering how much non-work I do (ie: sitting at the front desk writing) today, should be early Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: little wilson on September 07, 2009, 07:35:22 AM
I know this is a couple days late, but in reply to sortitus' comment about the e-mail subject lines and e-mails not getting sorted into the right folder...you should be able to put a filter on the "to" address line. In this case, tell your e-mail to filter everything that has a "to: (insert our mailing list address, since I'm not sure we want that on this un-hidden board)" into a particular folder. That's what I did. Of course, this doesn't fix the whole naming of the submissions problem, but it should fix the filtering deal...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sortitus on September 07, 2009, 08:21:41 PM
Mmm! Smartness! That would have been a bother before, but with the forwarding it is super easy. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 09, 2009, 01:21:48 AM
As one can plainly see, I have not submitted. In other news, writing while exhausted doesn't work so well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on September 09, 2009, 05:43:14 AM
I would love to be added to next week's submission date. I really need a deadline to give myself some motivation to write something new
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on September 09, 2009, 06:21:05 AM
Yay, Hamster! Will you be doing something new or are we finally getting more of your first book? :)

Yep, there were a lot of slackers this time. Me thinks we are in need of a better punishment than the evil laughing chorus.  ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 09, 2009, 06:25:24 AM
I'm open to suggestions. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Hamster on September 09, 2009, 06:35:24 AM
Tis something from my first book, I don't really want to work on other stuff, too much distraction.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 09, 2009, 06:49:45 AM
I submitted, I submitted. Calm yourselves ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on September 09, 2009, 07:37:24 AM
I'm open to suggestions. :P

Two evil laughing choruses.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on September 09, 2009, 03:29:32 PM
Can I sign up for next week as well?  I've had some complaints about offing my main character in the first chapter, so I kinda need to submit chapter 2 to prove that he isn't dead...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on September 09, 2009, 04:05:26 PM
He's not dead yet! He's getting better....

I think the punishment for being late should include being inserted into one of Cynic's stories.  ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on September 09, 2009, 04:22:36 PM
And you say I'm a sadist...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 13, 2009, 02:43:46 AM
I'd like to submit on Monday (yes, I really plan to this time!). :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on September 13, 2009, 04:15:58 AM
My submission is ready for Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 14, 2009, 03:33:29 PM
Chapter two of Rebirth is delayed a week due to RHA camp. In other news, when there's an activity where you're supposed to swing across a rope over a "chasm", don't jump it. I succeeded the first three times (landings getting better each time!) but the four didn't work out so hot.

Basically, sprained ankles suck.

My defense? Jumping was the more efficient path than for every member of the group to rope-swing across one at a time. ...Efficiency. Yeah.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 14, 2009, 04:09:50 PM
Because everyone knows it's impossible to write with a sprained ankle.

...

*ducks thrown objects*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 14, 2009, 07:21:33 PM
Well, the camp was a time waster. No computers, you see. The ankle is not a factor, but classes, unfortunately, are. Monday happens to be my long day ;)

...Just because I spent four hours looking on TVTropes while I was at work this morning instead of writing doesn't mean anything!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 15, 2009, 12:36:59 AM
Because it's absolutely impossible to write without a computer. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 15, 2009, 02:18:21 AM
I wrote a page.

Plus, it's hard to continue a scene when I don't have the beginning with me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: westwriter on September 17, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
Ok.  I'd like to submit chapter six.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on September 17, 2009, 02:36:33 PM
I'll go ahead and submit my chapter three.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on September 17, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
Well then I'll submit a jumble of scenes that probably also constitutes a chapter.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on September 19, 2009, 07:05:49 PM
Because it's absolutely impossible to write without a computer. :P

It really is. My writing goes way downhill when forced to write on paper. Even in my formative years I was writing most anything substantial on a computer, so my mental muscles are all attuned to that tool. Make me write with pen on paper and I find myself forgetting the thrust of a paragraph before I finish writing it because it takes. so. LONG.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 19, 2009, 07:53:21 PM
I actually write much better on paper. It used to be that I would write a chapter out on paper first, then give it a brief once-over while I was transferring it to the computer; I couldn't write on a computer at all for the longest time.

I kind of got over that once the last week of NaNoWriMo happened... But I still prefer it. Pity it's so darn slow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on September 24, 2009, 11:05:07 AM
I've got enough written now that I think I can safely apply for submission this coming Monday. Let's all hope I'm right.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on September 24, 2009, 04:02:26 PM
I'll be submitting Chapter 4 as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Bravesamwise84 on October 01, 2009, 09:18:54 AM
I'm totally new to this but, may I submit one of my Short Story Prompts this Monday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on October 01, 2009, 02:37:55 PM
I'll go ahead and pump out Ch. 5 of my story as well, although, there aren't many people out there reviewing these days . . .  What happened?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 01, 2009, 03:33:39 PM
Bravesamwise: Of course you may.

Recovering Cynic: The start of the school semester?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on October 01, 2009, 03:46:08 PM
Quote
Recovering Cynic: The start of the school semester?

Oh.  Er... yeah.  Glad I don't have to deal with that anymore.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 01, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
Hah. I'd say "last year" but that only applies to THIS degree. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on October 01, 2009, 05:45:12 PM
Yeah, Cynic, it always kind of comes in waves as far as people critiquing goes. We were having a good streak for a while so it was bound to catch up with us....
And yes, it school is the main reason for me that my critiques have slown down. Anyone care to tell me why I signed up for it again? :-\
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on October 01, 2009, 06:03:23 PM
No school is the reason my critiques have slowed down. I always get the most work done on the train on my way to uni. ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 04, 2009, 01:19:22 AM
Doing archiving on my computer in anticipation of having to do a Windows 7 clean install when it comes in. Why is this relevant to RE? Well, I am now 100% certain I have every single RE submission that's made it into my inbox. Or the ones that actually said "Reading Excuses" marked on them, because that's what I searched for.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 04, 2009, 06:32:32 AM
Oops. Updating the first post to reflect this week's submissions.

Looks like it'll be a quiet week... am I missing anyone?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 04, 2009, 11:18:38 AM
You missed Cynic.

I might be submitted. Key word "might". It really depends how well I work these next two security shifts.

I'll go ahead and pump out Ch. 5 of my story as well, although, there aren't many people out there reviewing these days . . .  What happened?

Ugh. I need to review more. Feel free to pester me via PMs, you know. Motivation helps. Besides, I need a steady stream of procrastination from college work sometimes ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 04, 2009, 07:36:14 PM
Fixed. I think.

Chaos, you should review more.

*pester*
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on October 04, 2009, 09:01:06 PM
Get critiquing, Chaos! Put all those submits to work if you are going to bother archiving them! College is for losers!

There, did any of that help?

Hey Silk, how come you didn't add Bravesamwise to the reading list in the post? (I ask just to be annoying... which I am so very good at)

Welcome to the group, BSW. Sam has always been my favorite... :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 04, 2009, 09:15:44 PM
Because I'm an idiot?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Bravesamwise84 on October 06, 2009, 02:21:43 AM
Lol. Thank you!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 09, 2009, 12:21:10 AM
Let's put me on the list for Monday. I need to continue submitting or else the gods of writing shall smite me for my laziness. It's going to be a busy weekend, but I really want to pull it off.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on October 09, 2009, 03:49:21 AM
If it's another Oathbound revision, I don't know how helpful I could be.  :o
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 09, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
Noooo! I sent that into Writers of the Future. It's done. I don't want to look at it for a good long while.

It won't be anything nonsensical, either. Should be Chapter 2 of Rebirth.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shi on October 11, 2009, 07:50:14 AM
Hey, I was wondering if I could get in on this oh-so fun "Reading Excuses" thing y'all got going  here. :) I may not submit anything right away, but I'd like to get into a loop a little.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 11, 2009, 08:38:48 PM
Of course.

Anyone other than Chaos submitting this Monday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Bravesamwise84 on October 12, 2009, 01:26:44 AM
I'd like to sumbit a prompt. If for nothing else but to continue getting used to being workshopped. =)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 12, 2009, 02:08:26 AM
You're on.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 12, 2009, 06:57:04 PM
I'm very sick. I need sleep. Submission comes... later.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 14, 2009, 10:52:30 PM
Wow, it's certainly a quiet week. My submission shall come next Monday, for real this time.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on October 17, 2009, 02:21:48 PM
My submission shall come next Monday

I second that motion.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 24, 2009, 05:10:47 PM
So... anyone submitted on Monday? I'm not, as I've decided to prep for NaNoWriMo. I'll need to churn out a chapter every two days, so I better at least have a solid idea of what to do.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 26, 2009, 12:57:57 AM
Not me. =( I don't have anything to submit.  (Bad wannabe. Bad.)

Even if I did, I haven't actually done any critting lately, so I'd just feel guilty about submitting anyway ::) 

PS: To all the people who are waiting for critiques from me, I shall get to those, just as soon as this pesky presentation thing (for my most difficult class, worth a full 25% of my grade) is over with.

...Well, maybe not JUST as soon. But shortly after. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 26, 2009, 01:56:26 AM
I'm sad. No submissions at all this week?

Oh well. There better be a host of NaNo writing to critique come December ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on October 26, 2009, 04:30:57 AM
I'm sad. No submissions at all this week?
Yeah, it is kind of odd, but I suppose you could always use this opportunity to catch up on the older stuff...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on October 26, 2009, 07:14:05 PM
I'm sort of on a run at the moment, and want to get as much written as I can while it lasts. And I really don't want to expose you to a wholly un-edited draft. That would be cruel.

Also, I finished my very first chapter-length chapter just now. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Bravesamwise84 on October 27, 2009, 08:40:18 PM
I'm going to go ahead and cruelly submit a horrible unedited first chapter of my NanoWrimo project this next Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 02, 2009, 04:23:11 PM
I'm going to go ahead and cruelly submit a horrible unedited first chapter of my NanoWrimo project this next Monday.

Do it! :)

You guys will get a chapter of Rebirth today. I have one of the two viewpoints in it complete, it's just a matter of me completing the rest of it. It will be raw and unedited goodness, because I started writing this yesterday. I have a feeling a lot of the NaNoWriMo stuff will be like that.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 02, 2009, 05:20:52 PM
So... I wrote the prologue for Oathbound last night.  I can either submit it this week or next week, take your pick. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 02, 2009, 05:27:42 PM
This week. I'm fearing we don't have enough people submitting, so you may as well do it now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 02, 2009, 05:36:06 PM
Alrighty then.  I'll try to have it emailed out before lunch.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 02, 2009, 05:51:32 PM
No rush. I know my submission will be lucky if it's done before midnight. I have classes pretty much nonstop until 6pm.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 02, 2009, 06:03:24 PM
Yeah, we don't have a whole lot of submissions this week, so go ahead. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on November 02, 2009, 09:50:15 PM
I know I'm new, but . . . can I submit something?  If it's a short list of submissions I'd love to lengthen it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 03, 2009, 01:57:19 AM
I've got the first chapter of the (as of yet untitled) book I've been working on done. I'd love to submit it sometime to be critiqued. Mind, it's only had some very minor editing so far.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 03, 2009, 02:00:23 AM
Both of you, submit! Do it!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 03, 2009, 06:22:02 AM
Well, it seems my slight concern that Reading Excuses was dying is completely unfounded. It was simply a slow October. Lots of submissions starting today. Hooray!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on November 03, 2009, 06:54:09 AM
Maybe if you want to revitalize it, you should actually critique a time or two. *hint, hint, nudge, nudge.*

 ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 03, 2009, 07:16:50 AM
You were concerned it was dying? After what, two slow weeks? Jeez. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 03, 2009, 07:20:56 AM
Maybe if you want to revitalize it, you should actually critique a time or two. *hint, hint, nudge, nudge.*

 ;D

...

Yes. I'm getting to them... Sometime. Sometime soon.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on November 05, 2009, 03:31:00 AM
Signing up for Monday. Not because I have anything all that good yet, but I am tired of staring at it and I figure I'd like to add some company to my misery. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: vegetathalas on November 05, 2009, 11:31:46 AM
I'd love to submit something, but I'm brand new and I'm wondering...where do I get the list of emails? Call me a n00b--I read the rules but I probably missed that part. I presume we email it out Monday night?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 05, 2009, 03:29:28 PM
I might as well sign up for Monday too.  It will be short and sweet again.  Vegethalas, you email your submission to "all at readingexcuses" with the @ used for at.  Either Chaos or silk will add you to the mailing list so you'll get a copy of everything sent too.  If you want on faster, you could email them.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on November 05, 2009, 05:03:09 PM
Oh oh oh, I wanna go again.  memememe pick me , me me me me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 05, 2009, 05:21:17 PM
I'd love to submit something, but I'm brand new and I'm wondering...where do I get the list of emails? Call me a n00b--I read the rules but I probably missed that part. I presume we email it out Monday night?

Will add you as soon as I get back to my home computer, which has the link saved.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 05, 2009, 05:30:19 PM
Oh, good, Eric'll do it, now I don't have to, because I'm going to be late. :P

Yeah. We'll add you to the list ourselves, and for your part you just email out to the address listed on the first page of this thread (all[at]readingexcuses[dot]com, I think, but check the first page, 'cause my brain's not working right now).

LTU, Cynic, Frog, and Vegas for Monday then?

I'll change the list when I get home tonight.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 05, 2009, 08:15:13 PM
You know, you could just format it like sane people do, as in: all[at]readingexcuses[dot]com

:P

Both vegetathalus (I would shorten it to merely Vegeta, but I'm no DBZ fan, so I will abstain) and Clarissa are added to the list.

I will also submit on Monday, because if I don't get three chapters done by the time it's Sunday, I'm going to be severely behind in my NaNoWriMo stuff.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: vegetathalas on November 06, 2009, 06:49:59 AM
Vegas is fine. Usually my forum nickname is "Veggie".  ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 06, 2009, 06:56:56 AM
I don't format it "like sane people do" because bots can read it if it's left unscrambled, moron :P and I don't really want a bot getting ahold of a list with thirty or so emails attached to it. I imagine most people agree with me :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 06, 2009, 12:24:49 PM
I don't format it "like sane people do" because bots can read it if it's left unscrambled, moron :P and I don't really want a bot getting ahold of a list with thirty or so emails attached to it. I imagine most people agree with me :P

Darn you and your logic.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 06, 2009, 03:30:47 PM
There, I've critiqued. Happy?!?!

Now I should go read and catch up on Concord, I think. I feel bad because Flo's latest submission hasn't gotten nearly enough critiques.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on November 06, 2009, 04:57:27 PM
Yep. Now you can complain away about the lack of submits in any given week.  :D

I should catch up on Flo's soon too. I keep meaning to...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 06, 2009, 07:04:39 PM
I've kinda given up on catching up with Flo :(  It's like 16 chapters in.  I tried critiquing once and failed miserably.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 06, 2009, 09:10:58 PM
All right, all right, I'll write up a proper summary when next I submit. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 13, 2009, 07:47:34 AM
Good plan. Me being behind has been what's prevented me from critiquing you so far.

I'd like to submit something this next Monday. Hopefully I should have something critique worthy by then.

And Chaos, I'm already quite behind in my NaNoWriMo writing. Approximately 10,000-12,000 words behind, and that's after doing 6,000 today. I agreed to accompany a musical, and it kind of ate my time. But now I have time again. It's amazing. But I get to play catch up.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 13, 2009, 04:14:59 PM
I'd like to submit on Monday. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on November 13, 2009, 11:13:44 PM
Can I submit 3 weeks in a row?  Is that allowed?  will my aunt Ruth shave her beard?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 14, 2009, 12:19:16 AM
Yeah, it's allowed. We're pretty much "if you want to submit, then submit". In the theoretical day when we get more than eight or ten people submitting, maybe not, but I think that day is a while off.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 14, 2009, 02:26:56 AM
Considering that the submissinos are an average of 4000 words long, I'd personally cap it at six or seven people. (Ten people would be nuts. Put it this way: do you want to critique 4/5 of NaNoWriMo in a week?)

Anyway, you're allowed to submit as often as you want, pretty much. If we end up getting too many people in a given week we'll give first dibs to people who haven't submitted in a while, but in nearly a year, that's only happened once (and then half the people who'd signed up didn't submit anyways). ::)

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 14, 2009, 02:36:55 AM
I was just making up random numbers. I never said they were reasonable. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 14, 2009, 03:56:42 AM
I'm submitting on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 14, 2009, 04:03:28 AM
I never said they were reasonable. :P

Well then. It's a good thing one of us is. :P

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 14, 2009, 08:34:02 AM
I'd say four or five. I'm having trouble looking through more than one or two a day.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 14, 2009, 10:48:09 AM
I definitely wouldn't want to do anything less than five. There're a lot of us, and otherwise it'll take people forever to push their stuff through. I know it's a lot, but remember you don't have to critique everything every week, or always get to it right away.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 14, 2009, 05:05:21 PM
In fact, it's kind of unreasonable for everyone to critique everything every week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 15, 2009, 01:01:59 AM
Well yeah. And I don't (referring both to getting to it right away and critiquing everything).

But now that you mention it, yeah, the whole 'twelve people wanting to submit but it's capped at five' thing could really be an issue. We'd end up backed up for months, and we'd all have new stuff we were working on, but old stuff we were submitting. Yeah, it would be pretty messy.

So, in light of that argument, I think 6 or 7, or maybe even 8 is a reasonable cap.

In the theoretical day when we get tons and tons of people submitting, we could also split into smaller groups, with maybe 2 or 3 submissions (chosen by the smaller groups) going to the whole Reading Excuses group. We'd have to be pretty big before I wanted to do that, though, since it results in fewer people critiquing each piece.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on November 15, 2009, 01:03:09 AM
I'm probably going to put out one on Monday, assuming I can be happy with it by then.  It'll probably be the only one for awhile, though (I'm slow, a perfectionist, and have a job).

That said, I seem to remember reading that you don't have to critique every single one you get. I don't know that I will be able to every week (although I'll try to post something, because I'll at least read them). I wouldn't mind getting up to 10 per week, under the assumption that I'd probably read them all but only review 4-6.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 15, 2009, 01:49:53 AM
I'm probably going to put out one on Monday, assuming I can be happy with it by then.  It'll probably be the only one for awhile, though (I'm slow, a perfectionist, and have a job).

That said, I seem to remember reading that you don't have to critique every single one you get. I don't know that I will be able to every week (although I'll try to post something, because I'll at least read them). I wouldn't mind getting up to 10 per week, under the assumption that I'd probably read them all but only review 4-6.

I have a job. It just happens to be one that is extremely conducive to writing ;)

There has never been a rule that you have to critique every piece you get. Officially you just should critique one piece for every piece you submit, though most everyone exceeds that. As always, we want you to be writing as a top priority, not reading, despite our name, "Reading Excuses".
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 15, 2009, 02:56:20 AM
I try to review most everything, and only occasionally do I skip a submission (sorry Flo!  I just don't have time to read 17 chapters!).  I think it has to do with a secret hope that people will then read my stuff :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 15, 2009, 09:21:36 AM
I'm kind of the same way. Though I feel kind of bad because NaNoWriMo has unlocked this extreme wordiness in me, and both of my next chapters are over 5k words. I thought about trying to split them into smaller chapters, but what ends up happening is that one scene isn't substantial enough, and another scene is way long.

Ooooh, that's a thought. In the hypothetical day when we have bunches of people submitting left and right, we could cap it by word count. As in, we'll accept 30,000 words this week. That would ensure never having a week that was crazy busy and as a result, no one getting critiqued.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on November 15, 2009, 09:30:02 AM
The only thing wrong with that is when you get the hypothetical person who submits a 30k document to be critiqued, and then everyone else has to wait 'til next week.

Personally, I think 5k is a little light. Granted, pretty much anything I write will probably be that or smaller, but I'm not against reading 8-10k, either. I know the emphasis of this place is on writing, but I guess I'm probably going to be a rebel here, too, reading more than writing. I spend all day writing code, so writing more after that is sometimes difficult because my mind is just tired of thinking. Reading, however, doesn't work the same parts of the brain, and is sometimes quite refreshing. I can't speak for anyone else on this, though. At worst, you'll post your long chapters and fewer people will critique them. I probably still will (for whatever that's worth).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 15, 2009, 08:16:00 PM
It's not a big deal if you submit 5k instead of 4k; we're pretty flexible. The 4k limit is just a guideline to keep us from getting inundated with novella-sized submissions every week.

I think trying to cap submissions by word count would be difficult (especially since a lot of people are writing their submissions the weekend or even the Monday morning before they submit), and it might end up limiting the number of people who could submit in a week unduly. Maybe for weeks when we have fewer submitters (say, three or less) we could up the word cap for their submissions or something so they can push more material through. If people are willing to give up their quieter weeks, of course. :P

The crazy busy weeks happen, but not very often, and mostly I think it just means that people are a little slower getting to critiques, not that they don't get to them at all.

4-5k isn't a lot, it's true, but there are a lot of us. Having submissions of 8-10k would add up in a real hurry with just five people submitting a week; at that point you're practically critiquing a book a week, and I suspect a lot of people wouldn't be able to keep up. And I think most people don't want to see the number of crits they get a week go down.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on November 16, 2009, 09:23:11 PM
I'm not too worried about the cap because I am pretty good about NOT reading when I get too busy. Six or so is probably reasonable. As far as critiquing go, it may sound selfish, but the best way to get a regular critique from me is to regularly critique my stuff. Than I am plagued with guilt and HAVE to get yours eventually, even if my schedule may delay it a while. Otherwise, I may get to it, I may not, all depending on how I feel and how busy I am. I have a fairly good record at the moment, but I make no promises. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on November 17, 2009, 10:37:43 AM
Having not checked my RE inbox last week, I can safely say that seeing eleven new, unread submissions all at once induces panic, shortness of breath and nausea.

On an entirely unrelated and not at all hysterical note: for the love of God, people, don't call your files "Reading Excuses.doc" or "Chapter 1.rtf"!

Now if you will excuse me, I believe I have some reading to catch up on. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 17, 2009, 05:17:27 PM
Flo: do the 30 in mine make you feel better?

Yikes. I knew I was behind, but I didn't know I was THAT behind. Sorry folks!

Uh, yeah, if you could name your documents with y0ur name and story title or something, that'd be a lot more helpful. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
You're supposed to include your username and the work title on the file. Or else I'll smack you :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 17, 2009, 05:36:29 PM
I have been having a problem with the email system we are currently using.  Every time I get someone's submissions, it comes out in duplicate.  It's not a huge deal, but it is kind of annoying.  Has anyone else been having the same problem, or is my name somehow on the list twice?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2009, 05:51:43 PM
I have been having a problem with the email system we are currently using.  Every time I get someone's submissions, it comes out in duplicate.  It's not a huge deal, but it is kind of annoying.  Has anyone else been having the same problem, or is my name somehow on the list twice?

I just checked the list, and your email is only on their once. This is very bizarre.

Lethalfalcon also tells me that when he submitted, when he got his own email, it erased the filename off of his attachment. As far as I know, both of these problems have been isolated incidents and haven't affected any other members.

I'll talk with strider and Silk about it. Very bizarre...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 17, 2009, 06:11:05 PM
Well, it might be isolated in the sense that I am the only person getting duplicates, but for about two weeks now, everything that comes to me via the all[at]readingexcuses[dot]com mailing list has been showing up in pairs.  Without fail.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 17, 2009, 08:28:35 PM
Just for two weeks?

Now, that's even stranger.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2009, 09:03:01 AM
I haven't seen either problem, personally.

No, you're not on the list twice; I don't think that app will put an email on the list more than once.  (Unless perhaps you had a second email address that forwarded to the first and they BOTH ended up on the list somehow. Not that this would make sense considering it's only been happening for a couple of weeks.)

I'll see what I can do... but it'll have to wait until the weekend, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on November 18, 2009, 09:37:41 AM
Just for your reference (since Chaos brought the problem out)

Here's the relevant source from my email. I will note that I have no attachment rewriting scripts/daemons on this email account, and all other submissions I've received fine.

Content-Type: application/msword; name=".doc"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: inline; filename=".doc"; filename=".doc"

The filename is just gone. It's really odd.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 18, 2009, 05:09:29 PM
Silk, Chaos said he fixed it.  We'll know for sure next time we send out submissions.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 18, 2009, 05:22:13 PM
Okay. Thanks guys.

lethalfalcon: Yeah, I'm afraid I have no idea. :/ Let us know if it happens again, I guess.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 18, 2009, 06:23:31 PM
So I just finished a chapter yesterday that I'd like to submit on Monday.  I'm excited to see what you all think of it.  It's not flashy action or anything like that, but I really like how it turned out. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 19, 2009, 07:12:38 AM
If we're not too busy, I'll polish up another chapter of NaNoWriMo to submit. I might even be able to work in some editing time so you guys don't have to put up with what I crapped out for NaNoWriMo.

And are we supposed to be naming our files that way too? I was under the impression that was just the subject line of the email. Sorry!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 19, 2009, 07:38:17 AM
Please do name your files. You don't need to include the date, but name and title would be helpful. Otherwise, as Flo pointed out, we've suddenly got five "Chapter One.doc"s in our folders. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 19, 2009, 04:03:11 PM
Er... I'm pretty sure I titled mine... didn't I?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on November 20, 2009, 12:07:00 AM
Yeah, I think you're good Cynic.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 23, 2009, 02:12:48 AM
I shall be submitting something tomorrow or Tuesday. It will probably be a slightly out of continuity, as I'm oddly compelled to write chapter 9. Worry not, however, as it only really jumps ahead into the next day.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on November 23, 2009, 02:33:55 AM
I got . . . almost 8k words to submit tomorrow.  Please?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 23, 2009, 05:01:24 AM
I'll be submitting something... probably mail it out in the next hour.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 23, 2009, 06:00:07 AM
LTU: Normally I'd suggest that you split something that large, but as it seems we only have three submitters for this week... go for it, I guess?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on November 23, 2009, 07:46:43 AM
I'll read it, even if no one else will. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 23, 2009, 07:57:32 AM
I'll read it. After December 4th. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 23, 2009, 12:27:00 PM
Okay, so I might submit something today. Perhaps I'll push it to later this week. Instead of writing this morning, I think I'm gonna do some critiquing! Yeah! Go procrastination!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on November 23, 2009, 05:33:38 PM
*snorts*

See all the amazing things NaNoWriMo does for one's motivation? ::)

Now if you'll all excuse me, I have a book to start writeing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 25, 2009, 04:16:04 AM
I find myself doing the most interesting things for motivation.

"Come on, Andrew, two thousand more words and you can go to sleep!"

"Just another 500 words and you can eat lunch!'

"Mom told me to clean my room. The only thing I can do and not feel guilty about not doing what she says is write. 2k more!"

"I'll start listening to music after 1k more!"

"Write 2k more, and then you can read something that's not crap!"

"YAY! I got to 30k! Only 20k to go! If I copy and paste the first 6 chapters onto the end, I'm done!"

Yeah, it gets interesting. I'm sure I've done weirder things, but those are the main ones that come to mind right now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on November 29, 2009, 06:31:31 AM
No submission from me this week, either. I needed to get back my momentum, and I identified the problem on why I'm having difficulty moving forward: I do not know why Haiden has come to enact his plan right now. If he dethroned Kurick, he would probably have a considerable political acumen to become Consul almost immediately, so there are areas to explore here. I also do not fully know the Khabor side of things, and while this new viewpoint character helps, there's still a blank spot in my book build. So, if Haiden is here now and legate terms are short, then there must either be some additional impetus to compel him to act now, or something had prevented him from doing so before. I must outline the direct consequences after the Collapse and how things changed afterward, which should give me a very precise picture on both accounts, and will probably tell me what's the full deal with the Khabor.

And as Ravenstar pointed out, she's not fully clear about the primary conflict. This also must be extremely concrete, and it will be to the character. These are the issues I'm going to tackle tonight and tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on November 29, 2009, 08:00:10 AM
Yeah, nothing from me this week. Last week's submission made me realize that I've got to go back and fix a lot of issues before moving on. NaNoWriMo has helped me develop my story in new ways that I never expected (42k words, by the way), but it's also resulted in a lot of crap that really isn't necessary.

I'll be attempting to fix chapter 3 this week once I finish NaNoWriMo, and I'll also be doing some extensive outlining. So the moral of the story is, if I submit at all, it will be later in the week, and will depend entirely on how well my outlining goes and how many other people submit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on November 30, 2009, 05:06:39 AM
I'll be submitting this week.  Doesn't look like there's too much going on.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on November 30, 2009, 05:13:04 AM
Me too.  I've got somethin'.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: vegetathalas on December 04, 2009, 03:47:29 AM
I'd like to submit. I feel guilty because I haven't had time to critique everything yet, but I'll get to it someday! I promise!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on December 04, 2009, 04:03:01 AM
I'd like to read more of your writing, vegetathalas. Just... don't read my last submission, whatever you do. You'll gouge your eyes out and never be able to write again. :P

As an aside, hopefully, in the next couple of weeks I'll be able to submit something. It will *not* be as bad as the last, I promise! Things will *happen*. It'll probably not be this next Monday, though. I'm trying to get caught up on work.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on December 04, 2009, 05:10:33 AM
I've got something for Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on December 04, 2009, 05:53:36 AM
I'll have something on monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 04, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
You'll definitely get something from me this week. It remains to be seen whether it will be a dirty cop out or not, however.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on December 04, 2009, 03:37:36 PM
Yay! for busy Mondays.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on December 05, 2009, 07:02:58 AM
Ok, well since we're already busy and my outline is still only three-quarters of the way done, I'll wait until next week to submit. You WILL get something from me then,though. I get first dibs on next week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 05, 2009, 08:31:37 PM
Well Andrew, I think Operation Cop-out seems likely, so if you have something, feel free to submit it. Mine barely counts :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on December 06, 2009, 05:52:18 AM
I would have something if I'd seen this earlier today, but as is, I really do need to finish my outline before I go to the rewrite, and I'll have to do that tomorrow, so odds aren't looking good for monday. There is the possibility that I could maybe submit later in the week, but there are already three submitting not counting yours. I'll just go next week. It's easier for everyone involved. Plus that gives me enough time to give you all a semi-decent chapter.

EDIT: I just finished the outline following one character straight through, with none of the other character's plotlines (except where they cross, anyway). It's eight pages, not double spaced. Methinks it might be time to trim my plot just a little, especially since I have five viewpoint characters (well, ok, more like four and a half). Still, this should be a ridiculously large beast of a thing.

Oh, and I now know how my story ends. That's a good thing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 06, 2009, 10:13:58 AM
Endings help :)

You know, "Operation Cop-out" could be a cool name for a short story.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on December 07, 2009, 06:36:40 AM
Endings do help. My ending changed four times today, each one getting progressively more awesome. I'm now way psyched about how my book ends.

When you actually have time, you could write "Operation Cop-out." I would probably read it. But you have to work on Rebirth first, because Methinks I like Rebirth quite a lot so far.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: vegetathalas on December 07, 2009, 08:11:03 AM
Don't worry, Falcon. I'll pad my fingers so the gouging will merely be a bruising.

Just joking.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 07, 2009, 09:29:40 PM
Hmm... it seems Veggie has pulled a Silk. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 07, 2009, 11:42:06 PM
I find it excessively funny that my spam feature lets through everyone's RE submissions... except my own.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 08, 2009, 02:27:32 AM
Wait, what's a Silk?

Oh, the "I'll get to it one day" thing?

You folks have NO right to complain. Just think how many posts you're getting out of me for free!

Anyway, today, as I understand it, we have: vegetathalas, Recovering Cynic, lethalfalcon, LongTimeUnderdog, Chaos's Dirty Cop-Out, and Erik Holmes will be submitting a bit later. Yeah?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 08, 2009, 02:37:07 AM
Is it really vital to have this listed out when we've already submitted? ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 08, 2009, 02:46:02 AM
Hush, you. I'm trying to make myself feel better about not keeping up with my administrative duties.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on December 08, 2009, 02:57:23 AM
No, I meant that she had done a whole bunch of critiques at once, like you have done in the past. And I didn't mean it as a bad thing. Whatever you guys can do it fine by me, especially since I am so sporadic about submitting myself that I really haven't personally felt a lag from either of you. ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 08, 2009, 03:48:25 AM
Ah, yes, one of those. I'm probably going to do another one of those in the next week or so, too. ::)

I might not read ALL forty-two submissions at once, though. That may be a little bit... much.

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: vegetathalas on December 08, 2009, 05:37:59 AM
42 at once. Wow. I think that would be like taking out my brain and sticking it in a tub hot marmalade.  OUCH OUCH MY BRAIN! While I love reading, critiquing can be hard work, sometimes.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 08, 2009, 05:47:06 AM
Hah. Reading and critiquing 42 subs (43 now that Erik's submitted) would actually probably take me like three or four days, since it typically takes me an hour or two to do a decent critique...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 08, 2009, 06:44:58 AM
42 at once. Wow. I think that would be like taking out my brain and sticking it in a tub hot marmalade.  OUCH OUCH MY BRAIN! While I love reading, critiquing can be hard work, sometimes.

I know! I couldn't write my critique to Sword of Worlds 18 because I couldn't come up with more than a paragraph of generic-ness. For shame :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: vegetathalas on December 11, 2009, 09:48:03 AM
I might as well throw something out Monday. I know we did mine last week but it's a short chapter.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on December 11, 2009, 03:51:29 PM
I will have something ready for Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 11, 2009, 04:06:16 PM
Hopefully there will be something from me on Monday. It won't be a dirty cop out, however :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 11, 2009, 08:11:33 PM
So Vegas, Cynic and Chaos for Monday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on December 12, 2009, 01:04:01 AM
Ahh! I got first dibs on this week no more than a week ago and Silk has already forgotten me? I think I shall go cry!

Seriously, I have something. It's actually semi-decent, too, now that I have a plot.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 12, 2009, 09:52:33 PM
If it was as long as a week ago, no wonder I forgot. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on December 13, 2009, 07:00:48 AM
Excuses, excuses. I expected better of you, Silk.  :'(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 13, 2009, 07:39:58 AM
I can't imagine why.

In any cases, Excuses are what we're all about.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 13, 2009, 07:55:53 AM
I may need one on Monday...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on December 13, 2009, 10:54:55 PM
Again? Really, it can't be that difficult to crap out a chapter, can it? You can always fix it later....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 13, 2009, 11:23:24 PM
No, the chapter isn't difficult I'm just lazy. And actually considering that I just realized my Monday is really free, I should be able to crank out one by the end of Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on December 17, 2009, 11:00:57 PM
So I have an ember of a short story burning in my brain.  I will be writing it this weekend and submitting the first draft on Monday.  I want to submit it to writers of the future, so I have 13 days to coax my little ember into a raging, glorious fire :)

And yes, I am a pyro.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on December 17, 2009, 11:39:00 PM
YAY the writers block is over!  Not that my stuff is all that great anyway, but I'm gonna have something on monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on December 19, 2009, 09:44:34 PM
I'm not. College Applications are eating my life. Hopefully I'll have something by next week, because this week is my last in school (no, I'm not on break already. Sad, isn't it?), and I'll have a bit more time after that. Though granted, I'll probably be forcing applications out the door for a while yet.

Anyway, I'll probably pull a Silk on you all at that point and catch up on my critiquing too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on December 20, 2009, 08:57:57 PM
Okay, I've put this off long enough. I'm going to submit something tomorrow. Work can wait. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on December 21, 2009, 03:27:03 PM
Sadly, as it turns out, my short story did not wish to stay short.  In other words, (1) my idea was incapable of being contained in under 30k, and (2) I have nothing to submit today, which means (3) I've been a slacker lately.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 21, 2009, 08:08:42 PM
You could submit it anyway, you know.

But... uh... not all at once. Please not at all at once. The amount of stuff in my inbox right now is already enough to make my brain explode.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on December 21, 2009, 08:25:23 PM
Well... I got 12 pages in before I realized I was going to have problems.  I'll submit the twelve and see what kind of suggestions I get from the masses.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on December 25, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Well I suppose with seven new chapters, I'll have something to submit next week . . .
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on December 26, 2009, 12:29:51 AM
You're definitely getting something on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dark_Prophecy on December 28, 2009, 07:41:43 AM
I'll have a couple of chapters to submit for next week...I guess that's the 2nd, since I didn't get word in by Saturday, right?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 28, 2009, 08:16:23 AM
It looks like we only have two others submitting tomorrow, so go ahead if you'd like.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dark_Prophecy on December 28, 2009, 08:27:01 AM
Awesome. I'll send it out right now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dark_Prophecy on January 01, 2010, 11:20:09 AM
I'll need another spot this week if it's available. I'll be resubmitting the first 2 chapters and adding on another 7 pages or so that I've got done. I'm basically writing this so that I'll have to get it done, since I'm feeling lazy.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on January 01, 2010, 04:58:40 PM
This week too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 04, 2010, 12:06:53 AM
I'm going to submit late on Monday.

I've also decided I'm going to start posting who our new members to Reading Excuses are here, in case people don't introduce themselves so soon.

New members since the last time our list was updated (the newest member then was JustinCarmony) are: Dark Prophecy (you already knew that, though!), Asmodemon, and ublique!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on January 09, 2010, 03:50:24 AM
Still gots me some chapters to submittal.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 10, 2010, 09:44:28 PM
Since LTU seems to be the only one submitting and since people have been giving me a hard time about not submitting enough, I guess I'll submit a flash story tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on January 10, 2010, 10:06:33 PM
*flexes his I rock muscles*  That's right, only one week so far with no submission and about 20 chapters written to buffer.   WWNF award here  I come!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 12, 2010, 10:17:52 AM
I'm going to submit late on Monday.

Apparently when I said this I meant next Monday, and a day late.

That counts, right?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 12, 2010, 06:04:34 PM
No. Five minutes in the corner.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 12, 2010, 07:33:38 PM
You'd do that to your fake boyfriend? :( Talk about tough love
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 12, 2010, 09:32:23 PM
XD

"Tough love" is what I'm all about. Which you know very well.

Pidgin.

(To anyone else reading this: Yeah, long story.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on January 12, 2010, 09:59:31 PM
Maybe that could be your next submission! Your long story about you and Chaos' illusory relationship, filled with suspense, drama, horror... and a neglected forum-child. :D

I'm eagerly awaiting this installment.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 12, 2010, 10:04:31 PM
It'd be X rated, of course, so we couldn't submit it to Reading Excuses.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on January 12, 2010, 10:10:10 PM
Bah, I'm pretty sure you're both competent enough to gloss over the things the little ones can't read. 'sides, with society today, it takes a lot to get into X territory, especially in a novel... unless you're going to do a graphic novel, at which point someone has way too much time on their hands.

...unless you mean X for eXcitement, and you just don't think fun things belong here. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 12, 2010, 10:13:35 PM
Well, it's both, naturally.

Plus that X rated stuff has great character development, and we aren't just talking about "developing characters" as "creating babies". Though there is that.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 13, 2010, 10:44:53 AM
This is going to haunt me for the rest of my natural life, isn't it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on January 13, 2010, 11:00:52 AM
I'd imagine so... I suppose that's what you get when you start giving tough love to Chaotic things and then tell very cynical/sarcastic people like me on forums about it. :)

So when do we get the long, unbiased  story? I'm pretty sure Chaos is embellishing things a bit. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 14, 2010, 04:04:42 AM
I'll have something for Monday :)  I finally got off my butt and wrote.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on January 14, 2010, 04:30:31 AM
Don't you usually get *on* your butt to write? Or are you one of those really unique people that writes while standing? :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on January 14, 2010, 07:12:52 AM
Haven't you heard of the treadmill desk (http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/08/the-treadmill-workstation/)?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 14, 2010, 04:00:36 PM
Actually I write wherever I get the ideas.  I have a notebook for that very purpose :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dark_Prophecy on January 15, 2010, 12:32:16 PM
I've got the very first draft of the first chapter of Deathday Magic ready...er, well, ready to be destroyed, at least :P

So, question. We submit on Mondays? For some reason I was under the impression it was Sundays. In that case, I've got something ready for Monday. Sorry everyone :D

Oh, and I'm also interested in this Chaos+Silk story. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on January 15, 2010, 02:51:04 PM
Yay for having more to submit!  Yeah I'll have stuff next week too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 15, 2010, 03:29:28 PM
Yeah, the official day for submission is Monday.  Some people (myself included) will occasionally send off the email Sunday night so that it's waiting in people's inboxes on Monday morning.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dark_Prophecy on January 16, 2010, 05:32:40 AM
That's probably what I'll be doing, since I work nights on the weekends. Early Monday Morning, I'll shoot it over.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on January 16, 2010, 06:41:16 PM
If I can I'd like to submit something on monday too. It's the prologue for the Citadel of Thorns.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 16, 2010, 08:26:18 PM
So Dark Prophecy, LTU, and Asmodemon for Monday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on January 16, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
 LTU and Cynic, too, methinks. I might actually have some work to do critiquing next week. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 17, 2010, 05:07:40 AM
Myself as well, assuming I can crank out a chapter on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on January 18, 2010, 06:56:30 AM
After much college and scholarship applying, I am (nearly) back from the dead. I can try to submit something tomorrow, if you'd like, or if we're too busy I can wait until next week. Either way, I need to get going again, or my book will fizzle. It already hates me for leaving it with no effort whatsoever for 3 weeks.

Anyway............

Oh, to all the numerous people who have submitted....pretty much anytime in December or January, I promise, I'm getting to critiques. I just haven't had time recently. I now have a life again, though, so I should be able to get at least some done tomorrow as well.

Chaos/Silk (Chalk?) - Just let me know if you'd prefer I submit or wait till next week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 18, 2010, 07:29:55 AM
Go for it, if you'd like. We'll cap it there, though.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dark_Prophecy on January 18, 2010, 12:41:55 PM
Been a busy week for me, but I promise if I haven't gotten to your piece (and LTU, I owe you a much better review, with line edits) then I will this week. I'm reformatting my compy tomorrow, throwing some windows and linux back on there, and then I'll be good to go.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on January 19, 2010, 03:39:11 AM
I would like to appeal to everybody to use the words "Reading Excuses" in their subject lines of their emails. I could set up more filters so that they all naturally go to the right place, but it's much easier if you all just facilitate my laziness.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 19, 2010, 04:14:04 AM
I would like to appeal to everybody to use the words "Reading Excuses" in their subject lines of their emails. I could set up more filters so that they all naturally go to the right place, but it's much easier if you all just facilitate my laziness.

People are supposed to. It's in the rules. I remember this because I wrote them, because I'm anal-retentive in that way. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 19, 2010, 10:32:53 PM
In my attempt to notify you guys about new members when they join, we have a new member, nikitakit!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Flo_the_G on January 20, 2010, 04:42:21 PM
I finally got to read that backlog of submissions in my inbox! Yay! And then my PC kicked the bucket two weeks ago, so I have a whole new backlog to work through. ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 20, 2010, 10:26:31 PM
Sooooo...   I never submitted my piece for review :(  The sad part is, it was actually written, but then I went and found out I was going to be a dad and my brain fell to bits the last few days.  I could send it out now, or I could just wait for Monday.  Take your pick.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 21, 2010, 12:36:14 AM
You were on the list, Cynic. Go ahead and send it out, just for the "date", use Monday's date.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 21, 2010, 05:13:38 AM
K, tried sending out my story from my main email address and got this message:

Quote
The account that you are using to send mail is currently bouncing and we do not allow posts from bouncing accounts. This is the last error message we got for eldersbailey[at]hotmail[dot]com:
 
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 SC-004 Mail rejected by Windows Live Hotmail for policy reasons. A block has been placed against your IP address because we have received complaints concerning mail coming from that IP address. If you are not an email/network admin please contact your E-mail/Internet Service Provider for help. Email/network admins, we recommend enrolling in our Junk E-Mail Reporting Program (JMRP), a free program intended to help senders remove unwanted recipients from their e-mail list: http://postmaster.live.com (state 13).
 
If you have questions related to this or any other Google group, visit the Help Center at http://www.google.com/support/a/readingexcuses.com/bin/static.py?hl=en&page=groups.cs.
 
Thanks,
 
readingexcuses.com admins


I tried sending it again from a different email address, but I'm still not sure if it made it through.  Can anyone explain what's going on?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 21, 2010, 05:29:13 AM
I'm afraid I have no idea, but I can tell you that your submission did get through. It's in my inbox now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on January 21, 2010, 05:31:23 AM
Whoa. Um... I don't know what to say to that (other than a snarky "Hotmail sucks"). I haven't gotten the email from your other account, either. It looks like someone thinks you are spamming them. That's what I gather.

I'll keep you updated on whether I get anything. I may also do a test submission to the email list and see if I'm being bounced too, in the event that multiple accounts of yours don't work, Cynic.

EDIT: Of course, the minute I post the message, I get it in my inbox...

EDIT2: The one from your Readingexcuses.com mail address, at least.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on January 21, 2010, 06:57:35 AM
I got it too...

*sigh*

You just had to give me a really long one this week, didn't you Cynic? Right when I was getting so close to catching up. Oh well. I'll get to it. ...Someday. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on January 24, 2010, 03:17:48 PM
...but then I went and found out I was going to be a dad...

Well congratulations, that's great news (at least, I'm assuming it is. I know for some people it can be anything but good...). 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 24, 2010, 07:27:04 PM
It was very good news :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 24, 2010, 07:52:07 PM
Oh, yes. I thought I mentioned this, but apparently not, so congratulations. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on January 24, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
Okay, since nobody else appears to be on the list for tomorrow, I'll put myself forward. I've still got to finish what I've been working on, but I guess that's just extra motivation, right?

Also, the titles of everyone's submissions produce some pretty hilarious Amazon ads...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on January 25, 2010, 02:49:57 AM
I'll submit . . . since  do so every week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on January 26, 2010, 04:24:44 AM
I did submit.... hope that's ok.

And I agree, the amazon ads are amazing - I think, however, that the google ads are better.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 26, 2010, 03:45:05 PM
Er... I don't think I got any of the submissions.  Something screwy is going on with my email.  Anyone who submitted this week, could you do so again?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 26, 2010, 05:57:23 PM
Hmm. I got all three submissions. I wonder why you're having such trouble.

To the backlog already building (again!) in my inbox: Sorry. After February 1st.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on January 26, 2010, 09:00:26 PM
Hm. I've now sent mine directly to you. Hope it gets there...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Andrew the Great on January 27, 2010, 03:47:52 AM
Sent again directly to you as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Argas on January 27, 2010, 09:26:07 AM
Been busy with real life so I haven't had a chance to give any of them a detailed reading. I'll try and start reading a few Wednesday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on January 30, 2010, 01:27:10 PM
More stuffs on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on January 30, 2010, 10:58:51 PM
I'd like to submit on monday too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 31, 2010, 01:09:52 AM
LTU and Asmodemon for Monday.

Cynic, did you get everybody's submissions the second time around? Let us know if you keep having problems.

If anyone else has problems, though, I don't wanna hear about it. ::)

I mean, uh, of course you should let us know. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 31, 2010, 03:06:59 AM
Well, I fixed the problem, so everything should be good now.  If someone missed a review by me, I didn't get it :(
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 31, 2010, 04:34:25 AM
Was it overenthusiastic spam filters or something then?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on January 31, 2010, 07:37:18 PM
No, I had my reading excuses email set to forward to my normal hotmail email.  Anyway, hotmail threw a fit about that saying I was "bouncing" emails and blocked my reading excuses email.  So my reading excuses email was forwarding, my hotmail address was deleting, and the emails were disappearing into cyber space.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on February 04, 2010, 09:26:36 AM
I think... yes, I think I may have a submission for Monday...

Wait. Crap. I don't have a title for it yet.

...I'll get back to you...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on February 04, 2010, 12:27:08 PM
Me too!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on February 05, 2010, 01:57:18 AM
Okay, I have a working title now, not one I'm ecstatically happy with, but it'll do for the time being. I'm ready for this Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 05, 2010, 07:03:32 AM
Shivertongue: You can send it out to us as "untitled" if you want to.  Just through "Shivertongue - Untitled" (or whatever the heck our format is) into your email title and filename title, so we can tell it apart from everyone else's. :)

Sorry for my silence recently. It's been a long few weeks.

LTU and Shiver for Monday. Have I missed anyone?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on February 07, 2010, 11:01:24 PM
I'll have something for Monday too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Argas on February 12, 2010, 10:24:27 AM
I think I'll submit something for Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on February 12, 2010, 02:27:16 PM
I think I got three chapters done this week.  So I'll be up for monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on February 12, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
I have a new draft of Discharge to submit on Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on February 19, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
If my compy is fixed, I'll have something on monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on February 20, 2010, 11:38:04 PM
I've got something for monday too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on February 21, 2010, 10:00:42 AM
About half done with this chapter. If I can manage to finish it by Monday, I'll send it out, but I can't guarantee how likely that is...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 21, 2010, 07:14:55 PM
So LTU, Asmodemon, and maybe Shiver for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on February 21, 2010, 08:38:52 PM
I got one too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on February 22, 2010, 01:09:30 AM
I got one too.

Gasp, Erik warning us about his submissions? Madness!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on February 22, 2010, 01:14:10 AM
I thought I would use it to build up the suspense.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on February 23, 2010, 12:40:23 PM
Alright, I know why I haven't submitted yet (broken compy).   Where's the rest of them?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on February 23, 2010, 01:25:21 PM
Alright, I know why I haven't submitted yet (broken compy).   Where's the rest of them?

I wasn't able to finish the chapter. It was a longshot as it was, but I've made some signifcant progress and should have it done by Wednesday. Which means I can do some quick edits while I work on chapter three, and have it ready by next Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on February 27, 2010, 03:52:40 AM
Me!  mememememem!  I've got something for Monday . . .and the next Monday . . .and the next.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on February 27, 2010, 05:39:58 AM
Looks like I will, in fact, have a chapter for Monday. Hope no one minds, but I was planning to attach a much-revised chapter one as well. Some aspects of chapter two might not make sense without seeing the revisions...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Argas on March 01, 2010, 12:31:26 AM
I might be able to submit something this Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Pogi Dave on March 01, 2010, 04:17:33 PM
I believe I have joined the group/list by clicking Notify and have a very short prologue for a short story I would like to submit. 

So I guess this is my post for the next available submission date/time.

But how do I know who to send an email?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on March 01, 2010, 04:22:32 PM
Submissions are sent to 'all @ readingexcuses.com'. Except, you know, without the spaces.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 01, 2010, 04:49:03 PM
To get your name on the list, you'll have to PM me and/or Chaos with your e-mail address, otherwise you won't be able to receive submissions.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 05, 2010, 11:32:24 PM
Hmm, I'll have to pick one of my many chapters I got done this week to submit . . . or I would have to if they all weren't successive of each other.  Anyway . . . . So I think I'll be submitting next week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 09, 2010, 02:58:10 AM
I suggest the order in which you want them to appear in the book. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on March 09, 2010, 03:21:21 AM
Reading the story out of order does make things rather confusing...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 09, 2010, 08:08:00 AM
Well, it's also easier for us to give feedback about pacing and whatnot if stuff is in the order it's going to appear.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 13, 2010, 07:19:47 PM
Am I going to be the only submitter again?  Is Silk going to try to put me in my place again without me actually being there to be place put?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on March 13, 2010, 08:56:39 PM
Unless I can crank out five thousand words by Monday, it doesn't look like I'll have anything this week. School has been beating at my writing time, and when school isn't work is. I've got the entire chapter figured out in my head, I just need the time to sit down and write it...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on March 14, 2010, 10:42:48 PM
Sorry :(  Work is killer lately, so i have put off writing/reviewing for a bit.  I will come back.  Promise.  Besides, I think I have an idea for a nifty short story.  I just need to find time to write again.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on March 14, 2010, 10:59:18 PM
Tell ya what. I'll try to post something tomorrow. It'll be from a different story than before. And then I can wade through the backlog of LTU's submissions to poke at him some more ('cause I know he loves it oh-so-much). Oh, and a few from other submitters, too. :P

Work has been killing me, too, and on top of that I just found out I need to have one of my teeth pulled (and subsequently replaced, since it's my top left incisor). So... more work, so I can afford the $2k surgery and $1400 crown. Whee.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 14, 2010, 11:43:27 PM
So LTU, maybe Shiver, and maybe Falcon for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 14, 2010, 11:58:39 PM
You know I love you Falcon.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on March 14, 2010, 11:59:46 PM
You love me like a witch loves the huge mole on the end of her nose. It's necessary for the persona, but it still hurts like hell. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 15, 2010, 01:40:56 AM
hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 15, 2010, 05:25:35 AM
Due to incidents which can only truly be resolved by shooting someone in the face, I have changed my email to [email protected]  Well . . .okay . . . for whatever reason it's started eating emails sent to me and I've just leaned that I've missed quite a few important ones.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 15, 2010, 05:58:15 AM
Alright. Changed your email.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Bravesamwise84 on March 18, 2010, 03:43:05 PM
I'd like to submit this next week, if no one minds... =)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 20, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
me too me too
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on March 20, 2010, 09:43:46 PM
I've also got something to submit this week,  a short story I've been working on.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 22, 2010, 07:20:08 AM
Sam, LTU, and Asmodemon?

Sorry to be so slow on the uptake. It's been a long few days.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: clarissavandell on April 03, 2010, 11:42:20 PM
I've got a bit of a longer work I'd like to submit. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 03, 2010, 11:49:11 PM
Awesome, Clarissa. We're not getting as many submissions, so go for it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on April 04, 2010, 12:35:10 AM
I've barfed out like 2 chapters today.  I suppose I could submit too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 04, 2010, 12:37:16 AM
LTU, you're ridiculous. I'm jealous.

Okay, so Clarissa and LTU thus far.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on April 04, 2010, 12:40:33 AM
My family is out of two for 9 days.  I'm actually trying to finish the story in that time.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 04, 2010, 01:11:45 AM
That would be amazing. Good luck!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: clarissavandell on April 05, 2010, 04:31:50 AM
So... what is the actual to mail it out?  Sorry if I'm a bit out of it...   :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 05, 2010, 04:35:29 AM
all [at] readingexcuses.com

With the @, obviously ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: clarissavandell on April 05, 2010, 04:54:51 AM
Sorry, I meant the date.  Today's fine?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on April 05, 2010, 04:55:31 AM
Tomorrow's the real date, but tonight's really no different. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: clarissavandell on April 05, 2010, 04:56:25 AM
Alright.  Looking forward to your feedback!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 06, 2010, 12:44:44 AM
So... what is the actual to mail it out?  Sorry if I'm a bit out of it...   :P

Yeah, I suppose you missed the word "date" in there ;) Haha.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 11, 2010, 08:11:45 PM
Who's up for this week?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on April 11, 2010, 11:32:47 PM
Me!  mememememe
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on April 12, 2010, 02:20:28 AM
Wish I was. Getting a tooth pilled on Wednesday, though, and for the last week my mind hasn't been able to focus on writing >_<

Something interesting may come out when I start on the Vicodin afterwards, though...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on April 12, 2010, 02:24:53 AM
The last tooth I got pulled (3 weeks ago, front incisor) had no pain, afterward. You might not get to enjoy that Vicodin much (incidentally, I got subscribed Percocet, which I never filled because I don't like spending money).

Hopefully your tooth extraction goes as well as mine.

Nothing on my end, either. I got 250 words of Chapter 1 done, but I have to pay for said extraction (and later, the permanent replacement), so it's more work for me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on April 12, 2010, 02:54:47 AM
The last tooth I got pulled (3 weeks ago, front incisor) had no pain, afterward. You might not get to enjoy that Vicodin much (incidentally, I got subscribed Percocet, which I never filled because I don't like spending money).

Hopefully your tooth extraction goes as well as mine.

I filled the Vicodin already, and it was pretty cheap with my health insurance co-pay (along with the penicillin - the tooth is infected as well - the total came to about $8). This is a back tooth (number 15 as dentists call it) and has been broken for about two years now. Did you go with the local, or pay extra to be sedated? I'm guessing the former, based on the comment about spending money.

I'm terrified of being conscious throughout this, but I'm consoling myself with the ideas that I can a) wear headphones and listen to an audiobook and b) this might prove a valuable experience for a future story.

Edit: I could also tell some fun stories about percocet, but this is a family-friendly forum, so....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on April 12, 2010, 03:15:21 AM
My periodontist did something interesting. They doped me up on a short-term sleep agent called Halcion (triazolam). It made me... forget the greater part of that morning. I was conscious, and apparently aware through the whole thing, but I literally cannot remember most of it (which kinda bugs me from a mental standpoint, although I'm glad they did it). I have bad anxiety, but that really did the trick. They gave me some nitrous as well, although I'm not exactly sure whether it did anything. They still used lidocaine as well, so I couldn't feel it. All in all, I was everything short of a general anesthetic.

I had my first year molars removed a long time ago, and they just used a local for that. Honestly, I remember it feeling kinda funny when they just sorta popped out. A sucking feeling, like when cranberries fall out of the can. I'd imagine, though, if it's broken it's going to involve a little more digging to get the root out.

You'll be glad you did, though. My front tooth was abscessing as well, and the doc had to scrape quite a bit of scarred bone tissue away in order for the bone graft to work. He said if I hadn't gotten it done in the next couple of years, the bone would likely have deteriorated too much for an implant to be possible.  One thing you'll definitely want to do is use ice on the side of your face afterward. 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off. It'll keep the swelling down. Otherwise, you'll look like a chipmunk for 3 days or so.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chuck M on April 14, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Sounds like fun. Can I be on the list?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 14, 2010, 03:07:59 PM
Sure. Send Silk or I a message with your email and we will put you on it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on April 17, 2010, 11:03:05 PM
I've been doing a lot of overtime at work lately, which has left me rather drained, but I think I've got something for monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on April 18, 2010, 03:24:34 PM
I do too.  Working two jobs makes everything difficult.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on April 20, 2010, 12:07:09 PM
Silk I forget if this is the right thread. I apologize if not, but I'd like to be added back to the list.  I've a bit more time than I did. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on April 20, 2010, 05:13:04 PM
Good to have you back, Renoard.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 23, 2010, 10:36:41 PM
Yes, welcome back. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on May 04, 2010, 12:16:43 AM
I think I might have something for today. Anyone mind if I post it? (I think I'm the only one with something this week?)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on May 04, 2010, 12:23:13 AM
I don't see a problem. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 04, 2010, 12:50:22 AM
Yeah, go for it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on May 04, 2010, 02:56:42 AM
Here's a random thought from my sleep-deprived mind. In regards to the submissions... would it be easier if we allowed them every day of the week, with a limit of one per week per person, and perhaps a day of advanced notice for everyone else? This came to mind because I noticed, the previous two times I had submissions, that I finished them usually on Tuesday or Wednesday, and then I'd have to wait several days before I could send them out.

Maybe this has been considered before, I dunno. It make sense to me, but then again, I've spent the last five days barely sleeping and working on a Jack The Ripper board game from scratch...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 04, 2010, 07:12:55 AM
Usually if anyone asks in the middle of the week we just make an exception and let them submit anyway. I can't see why we wouldn't unless it was already a full week. We've stuck to the one-day-a-week thing because that makes it easier to keep track of who's actually submitting, and we can cap submissions if we need to. It's to keep everybody from getting overwhelmed with stuff.

Personally, I like the current system. I am also only one voice.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on May 04, 2010, 07:51:40 AM
Given that several people don't submit on Monday already, I'm not really sure it means much to say "submissions are on Monday". I *do* think it's better to have submissions around the same time, because then if we ever did get busy, we could say "okay, only 5 people can submit this week". If we went to a first-come, first-serve system, then the people who submit on Sunday would get preferential treatment, and the late comers would get annoyed that they could never submit.

Of course, given that right now there's one or two per week, as Silk said, just notify that you have something done, and more than likely there won't be any problem with you sending it mid-week. We really don't want to deny you just because it isn't Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on May 04, 2010, 07:57:47 AM
Good points, both of you, and I agree with them. I like the current system for those reasons, and have no real objections to the Monday thing, other than I have a tendency to finish chapters (when I actually manage to get some writing done) on Tuesdays. (Then again, having the extra days gives me time to edit...). It was just something that popped into my head and I thought I might put out there.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on May 09, 2010, 01:19:08 AM
Well I actually have something to submit this week.  Yay.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on May 09, 2010, 04:20:29 AM
Me too. (I think).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Drew P on May 12, 2010, 08:55:36 PM
Hello all! This is my first post here, but I would love to join the email list as well. Nothing submission worthy yet, but I'm 2,000 words in on a short-story that I would love to be able to have critiqued. (Assuming this one actually gets written!)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on May 15, 2010, 10:18:17 PM
Welcome Drew :)

On another note, I think I've got something to submit this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on May 16, 2010, 03:51:54 PM
Chapter 1 of six stones is almost done.  I'll have that ready late monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on May 17, 2010, 04:32:32 AM
I'm working on something. I've set a goal to have a submission for you by tomorrow, and the best goals are public.

So: I'd like to submit tomorrow. Make sure to point and laugh if I don't make it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on May 17, 2010, 05:10:45 AM
So, three people this week? Oh boys, more stuff!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 17, 2010, 06:32:12 AM

So: I'd like to submit tomorrow. Make sure to point and laugh if I don't make it.

Your wish is my command. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on May 17, 2010, 03:29:21 PM
Still not receiving RE submissions . . . .
Email addy is the same as it was before.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Drew P on May 17, 2010, 08:28:45 PM
I just got my first submission to read. I think I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl!

Which is odd, because I've never been a schoolgirl.

I've been nearly as excited to read submissions as I have been to write them.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 17, 2010, 09:07:05 PM
Drew: That's what we like to hear! ;)

Renoard: You're on the list now. You should get submissions today, as not everyone has submitted yet. LTU's the only one who's submitted so far, if he wanted to take a minute to send his submission to you (hint). :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Justice1337 on May 20, 2010, 03:31:36 AM
I'd like to submit this coming monday, if possible.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on May 20, 2010, 04:07:32 AM
Me too me too!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 20, 2010, 09:24:39 PM
You bet you can.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Drew P on May 21, 2010, 02:31:36 AM
If i might, I would like to throw my hat into the ring on Monday as well. I have a one scene prologue, 1st draft, that I'd like feedback on to see if I should proceed with the rest of my story.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on May 21, 2010, 04:15:21 AM
Can I go for Monday?  I haven't submitted in a while and I have (long) short story to submit :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 21, 2010, 05:36:44 AM
No problem. We're only up to four people so far.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on May 21, 2010, 05:59:00 AM
Only?  We haven't had more then 2 in months.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 21, 2010, 06:27:46 AM
We had three people just last week, didn't we? :P

Anyway, I wouldn't consider capping submissions until probably six people. That's what I meant by "only".
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Talyn on May 25, 2010, 09:46:55 PM
Hi all!

It's early yet, I know, but what can I say? I'd like to put in a bid to submit something next week. Haven't decided if it'll be a silly short story I wrote awhile back or a chapter of my as yet unfinished novel. Preferences anyone?  :P

Joining this site has apparently sparked something. I've gotten more writing done in the last two days than in the last month.  ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 25, 2010, 10:03:14 PM
Excellent. That's what we like to hear. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dark_Prophecy on May 30, 2010, 02:11:34 AM
Hey all, I'm back and better than ever. My goal? Impress Frog :D

Just kidding! I'm really just finally back to writing after being far too busy with kids and whatnot.

Anyway, if there's a spot open to submit this coming week, I'd love to shoot the first chapter of yet another novel your way.

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Recovering_Cynic on May 30, 2010, 05:08:49 AM
I have something for Monday as well.  I re-wrote my last submission.  Other than the first two pages, it is entirely different (and shorter). 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on May 30, 2010, 08:53:20 PM
Hey all, I'm back and better than ever. My goal? Impress Frog :D
psh. These days getting Frog to even read something would be a feat in and of itself. Fallen off the horse awhile back and it is so hard to get back on. That, and I've noticed that the moment I let myself get into critic mode my ability to write my own new stuff is shot for a day or so and I really want to have something finished. If you think I am tough on your work you should see what a bloody mess I can make of my own stuff.... :P

Welcome back anyway!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 30, 2010, 09:09:39 PM
It'd be a feet, huh? :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on May 30, 2010, 09:11:08 PM
yes, thank you Silk...  ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 30, 2010, 09:25:11 PM
*grins* Pleased to be of service.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on May 30, 2010, 09:33:31 PM
You would be.

And now he knows the real truth. The only reason anyone would be worried about me, is that they haven't yet experienced the absolute bliss of being corrected by Silk. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on May 30, 2010, 09:42:31 PM
Yeah, and a lot of the new blood around here hasn't been, because she's still stuck in January. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 30, 2010, 10:02:15 PM
You would be.

And now he knows the real truth. The only reason anyone would be worried about me, is that they haven't yet experienced the absolute bliss of being corrected by Silk. :P

Awwwww, you miss me!

I'm almost done with the novel I'm reading, so I'll be starting your guys' stuff this upcoming week. Then again... Maybe I'll leave it for a while. Wouldn't want Josh to lose his favourite entertainment (that is, taunting me about it) :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on May 30, 2010, 10:12:28 PM
Awwwww, you miss me!
That would require one of us to leave. I haven't posted anything after Jan, so as far as me and my submits are concerned, you're all caught up.

I'm almost done with the novel I'm reading, so I'll be starting your guys' stuff this upcoming week. Then again... Maybe I'll leave it for a while. Wouldn't want Josh to lose his favourite entertainment (that is, taunting me about it) :P
Favourite? :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on May 30, 2010, 11:12:25 PM
She's a crazy Canadian, don't pay any attention to her :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 31, 2010, 12:15:52 AM
Pro-oud to be Canadian... we won't say that we're better, it's just that we're less worse!

That was your Obscure Comedy Band quote of the day. You're welcome.  :P

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on June 05, 2010, 01:09:17 PM
I'm gonna have something this week!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Dark_Prophecy on June 06, 2010, 10:29:58 AM
I've got a short piece of flash fiction that I'd like to submit this week, if it's not too late to say so :D

Only about 500 words or so, that I remember.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 06, 2010, 07:53:47 PM
Go for it. But only 'cuz it's short.

I'm kidding. ;) Submit away!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on June 07, 2010, 07:47:45 AM
I may have more Benders by late tomorrow. Or, hey, even Tuesday. Is that alright? Others have submitted late in the past and nobody seemed to mind.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 07, 2010, 09:06:29 AM
Go wild. It's not like we have many submitters this week. :)

Also, welcome to the group, aronsamma.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: aronsamma on June 07, 2010, 09:41:08 PM
Thanks. I'm working on a book, but I'm going to hang around for a while and try to help some other people before posting anything for myself.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on June 12, 2010, 09:10:27 PM
I'd like to submit a new chapter this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 13, 2010, 05:28:16 AM
Go for it.

I was hoping to submit on Monday, but I've just realized I've got something due for a workshop on Tuesday. It's probably going to take most of tomorrow and Monday, so I guess my submission will have to wait until next Monday. I'm staking my claim now. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Comatose on June 14, 2010, 11:17:37 PM
I think this is just what I need to get me remotivated!  I'd like to join the group, if you are still taking submissions.  I'll just put my email here, and I was wondering, I read the welcome post and some of the formatting info, is there any other gift basket of information I can take a look at.

i'm on the list now, thanks!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 14, 2010, 11:33:55 PM
You're on the email list now. :) The submission for this week has already been sent out, so you should start getting emails next week, but people are also good about re-sending stuff if you want to catch up on anything.

Oh, you might want to edit your email out of the previous post. Anyone can view this thread, so it might lead to a proliferation of email spam.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Comatose on June 14, 2010, 11:49:07 PM
Will there be a submission spot open for me next week as well?  Or do I need to 'do my time' critiquing first?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 15, 2010, 12:03:55 AM
Heck, you can submit today week if you want to. We've only had one other submission today so far.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on June 15, 2010, 08:24:27 AM
Yeah cause that Canadian girl didn't submit . . . . <looks around wildly> Wha?

Okay I'm going to submit monday if I may.  I think . . . .
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 16, 2010, 02:50:11 AM
Hey, I said I was submitting NEXT Monday. :P

I'll put you and me down, then.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Comatose on June 18, 2010, 02:02:14 AM
Let me know if there's still room on monday, I have another chapter to fire off, if that's ok.
I'm also excited for my first chance to critique, it's been a while.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 18, 2010, 05:20:57 AM
Go for it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on June 21, 2010, 12:33:27 PM
Okay, I've tried to submit, but all I've gotten is Mailer-Daemon notices that it wasn't delivered. Either they're lying, and everyone received three copies of my submission, or I'm doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 21, 2010, 06:57:40 PM
No, I haven't gotten your submission at all. Not too sure what's going on here. Renoard, is that the same error you were getting?

I see Comatose has been able to submit just fine, so I'm not too sure where to start looking here. Oh, and for those of you who haven't got my submission yet, it's becawuse I won't be sending it out until later this afternoon. :P (Or, if I get really desperate, at midnight when I get home.) ::)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on June 21, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
I didn't get anything from Comatose...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on June 21, 2010, 08:41:47 PM
I haven't received anything from anyone this week either. Sounds like something is broken at Google (hey, it's still beta, right?).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on June 21, 2010, 09:03:21 PM
Comatose... submitted last week. He hasn't made a topic this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on June 21, 2010, 09:06:34 PM
The list is fine, people. I just sent a test email and it worked.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 21, 2010, 10:06:23 PM
Oh, you're right; the submission from Comatose that I have is from last week.

I got both Eric's test email and Shiver's submission with no problems.

Looks like it was just having some temporary problems. Renoard, you might have better luck if you resend now?

My submission will probably come late tonight. Or rather in the wee hours of the morning. Sorry, but this is proving to be slow going and I won't be at home for most of tonight :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on June 21, 2010, 10:40:16 PM
I was under the impression that long ago, Renoard had issues with the email list and had solved it by sending to the list with a different email address. It worked for Shivertongue's submission.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Comatose on June 24, 2010, 12:58:22 AM
I recieved Renoard and Silvertongue's submissions, but apparently mine did not get through?
I did submit again this week, and I made a topic.  Silk said it was ok.
Should I resubmit?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on June 24, 2010, 01:02:09 AM
I got yours. I didn't get Renoard's though.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on June 24, 2010, 02:07:32 AM
I got Comatose's, but not Renoard's.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ryos on June 24, 2010, 02:31:22 AM
I got both.  :-\
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on June 24, 2010, 02:37:01 AM
You should go forward Renoard's submission to me :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Valkynphyre on June 24, 2010, 08:10:15 PM
I'd like to submit something this week. pretty please?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on June 24, 2010, 10:29:50 PM
For the record the issues I had long ago were before the list existed.  I was trying to BCC and couldn't send that many emails at once.  I created a list serve at that time, on my own server and used that until I went inactive.  When RE list was created I was not put on it.  I asked to be a nd began to receive submissions but was unable to send. I only tried again this week and found that I still could not send to RE so my submission was individually mailed or bcc'd to a handful of members.

The issue with the listserv is the fact that the RE domain is parked and aliased on top of TWG.  The typical means for handling this is to create an "MX" record that aliases the mail domain as well.  This acts as a big forwarder.  If the target email adress, in this case [email protected] is in turn a listserv and in some cases a forwarding alias, it is not capable of responding to certain verification requests that are built into certain email servers.

SOOOOO when the email comes in with a request for verification, the target email (being both a list and behind at least on forwarded MX) is not capable of giving a meanigful replay to the verification request and the server where the list resides (in this case mail.TWG)  reports that the list (all) which is IN it's own database doesn't exist as a valid email and bounces the incoming email.

At least that's the set of conditions I've seen this happen on before.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 24, 2010, 11:21:37 PM
I'd like to submit something this week. pretty please?

You're on the list for Monday. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Comatose on June 26, 2010, 09:55:00 PM
If I could submit one last time before taking a bit of a hiatus for revision, that would be nice.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 26, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
You betcha.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on June 28, 2010, 11:01:11 AM
I hope it isn't too late to ask, but I'd like to submit the second half of chapter 1 today.  Not meaning to be pushy, I'll go ahead and try sending it If you don't get it and want to message me.  If I'm jumping the gun and Silk pours wrath upon my head, then wait till next week to review it. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on June 28, 2010, 11:07:18 AM
I hope it isn't too late to ask, but I'd like to submit the second half of chapter 1 today.  Not meaning to be pushy, I'll go ahead and try sending it If you don't get it and want to message me.  If I'm jumping the gun and Silk pours wrath upon my head, then wait till next week to review it. :P

Do it!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Comatose on June 28, 2010, 07:26:05 PM
I didn't get Valkynphyre's.  That might have been my fault though.  I was sure it was in my email inbox, but now it is not.  Regardless of the fault, please resend it!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Valkynphyre on June 28, 2010, 07:55:55 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 28, 2010, 08:47:33 PM
I hope it isn't too late to ask, but I'd like to submit the second half of chapter 1 today.  Not meaning to be pushy, I'll go ahead and try sending it If you don't get it and want to message me.  If I'm jumping the gun and Silk pours wrath upon my head, then wait till next week to review it. :P

Silk is all about the wrath.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on June 28, 2010, 09:00:27 PM
I'm not getting Renoard's posts, but I have to disagree with his assessment of the situation. RE is not just an alias to TWG. www.readingexcuses.com is a 301 redirect to this forum; all the MX records point to google. A DNS check produces this:

Your MX records that were reported by your nameservers are:

1   aspmx.l.google.com   74.125.43.27 (no glue)
5   alt1.aspmx.l.google.com   74.125.155.27 (no glue)
5   alt2.aspmx.l.google.com   74.125.155.27 (no glue)
10   aspmx2.googlemail.com   74.125.43.27 (no glue)
10   aspmx3.googlemail.com   72.14.213.27 (no glue)
10   aspmx4.googlemail.com   209.85.229.27 (no glue)
10   aspmx5.googlemail.com   74.125.157.27 (no glue)

Now, I don't generally give Google a lot of credit here (I really don't like them for anything but basic searches), but I'm pretty sure their system is set up right. They have millions of users, after all. I talked to Chaos about this, and got the forward for your email. It looks like your mail server tried contacting a Google server that is NOT hosting RE's records (74.125.95.27). To me, this looks like either opentransfer.com has stale DNS records, or they're getting magical data that's grossly wrong. Either way, it's not anything on RE's side.

Also, the system RE is using is just an alias redirect to send out to all addresses on the list. It is not a true listserv.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Frog on June 29, 2010, 02:01:00 AM
What's with all the random 'Fred's in my inbox? Are we changing systems or something? You go less active for a moment.... :-[
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shivertongue on June 29, 2010, 02:03:46 AM
Random Freds? I see no random Freds... I also continue to not see anything from Renoard...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on June 29, 2010, 02:05:19 AM
No WE aren't changing anything. It's not my place to change things for anyone else.  I can't send to the All [at] RE address, so I created a genuine listserv.  Anyone who is a member on Silk's list and WANTS to use it can.  The address is the last one. ;P  And I'm sorry for the spam, it was a way of working out kinks.  You should have seen the list of random bounces I deleted.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 03, 2010, 08:55:40 AM
Just so you all know, I'm going to be out of town until probably Tuesday. I doubt you'll even notice I'm gone, but if you need a moderator for some reason all queries should be directed at Chaos 'til then.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 03, 2010, 05:24:39 PM
I'm not doing anything fun for the fourth anyways except for two graveyard shifts, so I am very much here.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on July 03, 2010, 10:31:50 PM
I'd like to submit something this week. It'll probably be the last thing I'll submit before going on vacation, away from my computer.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 03, 2010, 10:42:06 PM
You're on the list ;)

EDIT: Anyone else submitting anything?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on July 08, 2010, 05:53:15 AM
I stake my claim on next Monday! I actually finished something! Now I have 5 days to play with it and make it worse.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 14, 2010, 06:03:37 AM
And wisteria_purple is the newest member of the group. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Daddy Warpig on July 17, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
I'm brand new, but I have something to submit for Monday the 19th, if there's a spot available.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 17, 2010, 08:04:39 PM
Go for it. I don't think there's anyone else lined up so far.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on July 23, 2010, 11:43:30 PM
I'm looking to throw my prologue into the mix, if there's room. It's a tad long though, running something like 9k words – would you guys rather I submit it in halves?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on July 23, 2010, 11:51:03 PM
I personally don't care; some might, however. Is there a good place around halfway that you can break it without making a mess of things?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on July 24, 2010, 12:00:38 AM
Yeah that shouldn't be too hard. I'll just play it safe and split it, then – assuming I'm on the list, of course.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on July 24, 2010, 12:04:06 AM
Well, we don't have anyone else on the list for Monday so far, so... first come, first serve. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 24, 2010, 12:44:37 AM
Well, the upcoming Monday is looking really busy so far, but I think we can probably find room for you.

:P

Yeah, go for it! And it seems like most people actually prefer a whole, if somewhat longer chapter than a split chapter that adheres to the word limits.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: lethalfalcon on July 24, 2010, 12:50:03 AM
I think you missed your <sarcasm> tags. :P

So submit the whole thing, and anyone who complains can critique it over two weeks. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 24, 2010, 01:08:09 AM
My brain is jelly. Lemme 'lone. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Daddy Warpig on July 29, 2010, 05:40:53 AM
Well, it's looking like I'll have something to post on Monday, Aug 2. (First day of the month is Sunday, that means Fri the 13th this month.) I'd like to reserve a spot, if its possible.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 29, 2010, 06:42:42 AM
It's all yours.

Also, I'll be away from Friday to Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on August 07, 2010, 12:00:18 AM
Pencil me in for Monday; I've got chapter one ready to go.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 07, 2010, 02:25:32 AM
All righty.

Good grief, is it going to be August 9th on Monday already? ; ;
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Daddy Warpig on August 09, 2010, 12:45:27 PM
It's a little late to ask, but it looks like I have something to post today (Aug. 9), if that's okay.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 09, 2010, 11:10:52 PM
Absolutely. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Derby on August 19, 2010, 04:25:11 PM
I'd like to submit a micro-story (flash fiction) this coming Monday.

Derby
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 19, 2010, 09:40:30 PM
Sure, you're in.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on August 19, 2010, 10:58:27 PM
I don't have chapter 2 completely finished, but maybe if I tell you guys it will be up on Monday I'll be forced to finish up by then.

Chapter 2 to will be up on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 21, 2010, 05:11:28 AM
For extra motivation, we all promise to point and laugh if you DON'T send it to us on Monday. And call you names.

:P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on August 21, 2010, 10:11:04 PM
Since I'm back from my vacation I'd like to get back into the swing of things, I also have a chapter to submit on monday if that's all right.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 21, 2010, 10:28:58 PM
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on August 21, 2010, 11:59:45 PM
Ok.  So... I'm gonna go ahead and say that I've got something to submit on monday.  If that's ok with everyone?  I know it's been a while since I've been around on here...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 22, 2010, 12:15:11 AM
We-ell... I guess we can allow it... this time. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Daddy Warpig on August 23, 2010, 12:37:44 AM
Looks like we've got 3 for Monday, the 23rd. I'd like to make it 4, it it's alright.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on August 23, 2010, 02:18:41 AM
We-ell... I guess we can allow it... this time. :P

Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 23, 2010, 03:20:03 AM
Looks like we've got 3 for Monday, the 23rd. I'd like to make it 4, it it's alright.

Actually, you're number five. But yes, that's fine.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on August 28, 2010, 10:38:09 PM
I'd like to submit another chapter this monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 28, 2010, 10:50:42 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on August 30, 2010, 03:02:43 AM
I would also like to submit the rest of chapter 1.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Daddy Warpig on August 30, 2010, 04:09:53 AM
And, again if there's room, I'd like to submit something as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 30, 2010, 07:06:24 AM
You betcha.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on August 31, 2010, 05:57:16 AM
Aaaand life hit me upside the head today.   :P  I'll hold off until next week unless, by some miracle, I can pull a few more paragraphs out of my brain tomorrow (unlikely).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Zardog on September 03, 2010, 01:52:58 AM
Curious, would it be ok to submit something, but instead of sending a document, sending a link to the story directly on my blog?  I keep everything that I want to share with others there.  I have a second draft of the first chapter of my very tongue-in-cheek story up and would like to get some reads and opinions.  So, if I include a link in email and create a new post for comments here on Monday, would that work?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on September 04, 2010, 03:19:23 AM
I'd rather you copy and paste it into an attachment, so I have a local copy of it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 04, 2010, 03:36:17 AM
I personally prefer documents as well. Makes it easy to write line-level comments.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on September 04, 2010, 10:49:05 PM
I'll third the attachment preference, when I read submissions I usually do it while on commute when I don't have an internet connection, so I'd need a local version anyway. It's much easier if I can just download an attachment so I can read and put my notes in that rather than save a webpage or copy-paste the contents to a local file.

And on the note of submissions, I've got another chapter for this monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RavenstarRHJF on September 05, 2010, 02:24:29 AM
I've finished tweaking chapter one for now... I'd like to submit on Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on September 05, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
I won't have internet for the rest of today or tomorrow; I'm roughing it for labor day up in northern wisconsin. Alright if I submit early on Tuesday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 05, 2010, 07:23:49 PM
Close enough, sure.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on September 11, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
I'd like to submit again this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Derby on September 12, 2010, 07:54:24 PM
I would like to submit a revised version of my story tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: ErikHolmes on September 14, 2010, 07:56:15 PM
I'm going to submit too in a little while, unless someone shoots me dead before I hit send.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on September 18, 2010, 07:12:06 AM
Schools been making this a bit rough but I'm determined to stay on schedule for this; I should have another chapter ready by monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on September 18, 2010, 09:45:43 PM
I'm also trying to keep to my personal schedule, so I'll also have another chapter this monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Eerongal on September 23, 2010, 07:30:02 PM
I should have something to submit this coming monday, so long as i keep at it. (though, with this newly added deadline, i'm sure i'll have it ready)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on September 24, 2010, 02:20:36 AM
I'd be interesting in submitting a short story on monday if that's alright.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on September 25, 2010, 09:47:48 PM
I also want to submit again if that's all right.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on September 26, 2010, 04:32:44 AM
Yep. List's updated.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on October 02, 2010, 04:14:23 PM
I'd to like to submit on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on October 02, 2010, 05:24:29 PM
I have half-formed chapter that I'm hoping to finish by monday, too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on October 02, 2010, 07:26:27 PM
I'm going to try for another submission on monday as well, so far I'm on a roll with them ;)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 02, 2010, 10:00:05 PM
You betcha.

FYI, I'm going to spend the next couple weeks trying to catch up on/get ahead of my grad school work, in the hopes that I can actually start contributing again before December. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on October 08, 2010, 11:09:56 PM
I'd like to submit another CH on monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Eerongal on October 09, 2010, 02:03:03 AM
I should have something to submit this coming monday :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 09, 2010, 03:45:20 AM
Check and check.

Don't you people ever stop? Monday's a holiday--

Oh wait.  Right, Americans. Never mind. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on October 09, 2010, 10:54:46 PM
I also have another chapter for this monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on October 10, 2010, 12:02:23 AM
I also have another chapter for this monday.


I still haven't received your last chapter.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Stormblessed on October 12, 2010, 11:08:40 AM
I'd like to submit a chapter for next monday 18th October
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on October 12, 2010, 09:17:01 PM
Go ahead, Steve :)

By the way, I am still alive. Forgive me--higher mathematics takes a lot of effort.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Stormblessed on October 13, 2010, 09:06:09 AM
Go ahead, Steve :)

By the way, I am still alive. Forgive me--higher mathematics takes a lot of effort.

Name's Dean, not Steve.

Btw, I did junior maths at university and that was a lot of work (though it was admittedly the advanced stream). I can only imagine how much effort higher mathematics would take!!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on October 15, 2010, 12:21:01 PM
I'd like to post another CH on Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on October 16, 2010, 08:56:36 PM
You bet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on October 16, 2010, 10:17:04 PM
I also like to send in a new chapter on monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on December 17, 2010, 08:03:45 AM
Aaaaand I'm back! I kept forgetting to use the temporary forum, but I was doing nanowrimo the whole time so I suppose it doesn't matter. Anyways, I'd like to submit the first chapter of my nano story on monday, taking a bit of a break from the story I'd been submitting up to this point.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on December 18, 2010, 06:29:44 PM
Since we're back on the forums I'll continue to submit my novel.  So I'd like to submit CH4 for monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 19, 2010, 06:07:40 AM
Got you both.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on December 23, 2010, 11:07:44 PM
I'm gonna submit Sunday evening or Monday morning.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on December 26, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
Sorry, forgot to post this sooner cuz of christmas and all, but I was planning to post the next chapter tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on December 27, 2010, 12:20:25 AM
Go for it.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on December 29, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
Considering shooting Eric dead before he hits send . . . .
Silk, Erik can one of you message me with the email address you are using for me because I have only been getting submissions from a couple of newer members. Had a computer meltdown a bit ago and I'm completely sure what's where. :P

Also I'd like to submit. I was on the plus side when I disappeared this time. :D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: sceneTK421 on January 02, 2011, 07:44:36 AM
I would like to submit a short story this Monday, is that cool?

Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 02, 2011, 08:04:28 AM
You bet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on January 04, 2011, 03:42:39 AM
well I didn't submit, and that was because All (at) RE just won't let me send. IT always bounces stating that the email recipient doesn't exist.

Incidentally I can't send to ANY address at RE including Silk. So it seems that I'll not be submitting.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: stridera on January 05, 2011, 01:57:10 AM
That was my fault Renoard.  It should be fixed.  Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on January 05, 2011, 05:32:49 AM
Thank you Stridera. Yes it works fine.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 05, 2011, 05:37:38 AM
Thanks, Strider!

By the way, for those of you who got Strider's email and wondering who the heck this Natalie person is, that would be me. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RiaRaen on January 08, 2011, 12:10:31 PM
Hey Hey
Would I be ok to send out my first chapter on monday ? ^^
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on January 08, 2011, 06:52:04 PM
I've got my next one ready as  well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on January 08, 2011, 09:17:06 PM
I would like to submit as well...for real this time :-)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 08, 2011, 11:12:08 PM
Haha.

Mkay, that's three so far.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on January 15, 2011, 01:59:13 AM
I'd like to submit another chapter for monday please.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 15, 2011, 07:11:45 AM
*sigh* You people with your submissions. You are NOT making me feel any more productive, over here. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on January 15, 2011, 11:37:02 PM
I'd also like to submit something this monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 16, 2011, 09:09:45 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Renoard on January 17, 2011, 03:39:28 AM
Nat put me up too, if you would.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: halo6819 on January 17, 2011, 04:40:28 AM
Ahhh! i feel like an arse as i sent the e-mail before posting here! so sorry!

I guess this serves as my I would like to/I have already posted for the week....
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 17, 2011, 05:17:12 AM
Halo: It's not a big deal. The only reason that we have people post here first as all is to make sure that we don't get too many submissions in one week. Personally I would probably cap submissions at about 6 or so a week, which has rarely if ever happened.

List updated.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on January 22, 2011, 05:07:49 AM
Welp, I'm ready for another go
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on January 22, 2011, 01:45:01 PM
I'd like to submit as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: halo6819 on January 22, 2011, 05:52:46 PM
hopefuly edits should be done by monday, and i would like to submit as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 22, 2011, 07:56:17 PM
You're on.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on January 29, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
I'd like to submit again.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on January 29, 2011, 10:45:44 PM
I also have something to submit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on January 30, 2011, 09:58:08 PM
You're on.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on February 02, 2011, 02:39:22 PM
Well, I thought I had a chapter to submit, but the more I look at the thing the more I hate it, so I'm going to abstain this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on February 04, 2011, 05:14:14 PM
Ok, assuming I don't get bogged down in superbowl craziness this weekend (I live in milwaukee) I should have my next chapter ready for monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on February 05, 2011, 02:12:49 AM
I'd like to submit again.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 05, 2011, 09:04:49 PM
All righty.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on February 12, 2011, 12:21:26 AM
I'd like to submit my next chapter.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 14, 2011, 06:22:34 AM
You bet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on February 17, 2011, 11:57:32 PM
I've got my next chapter lined up.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on February 19, 2011, 04:56:27 AM
I'd like to submit again as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 19, 2011, 09:19:37 PM
You're on.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on February 25, 2011, 04:40:48 AM
Will be posting this week.  Assuming no one minds.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: fireflyz on February 25, 2011, 01:33:43 PM
I would like to submit again as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Juan Dolor on February 26, 2011, 11:01:26 PM
I have just come across this group, and I would like to submit something.  How does it work?  What do I need to do?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 27, 2011, 12:20:16 AM
Juan: Just PM Chaos and I with your email address, and one of us will put you on the mailing list so that you can receive other people's submissions. Everything that you need to know about submitting your own work is on this thread (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6850.0).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Juan Dolor on February 27, 2011, 01:01:37 AM
Gracias!  I've sent you both messages with my email, so just let me know what the next step is.  I'm ready to participate as soon as you all are ready for me.  :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on February 27, 2011, 03:34:56 PM
Hi,

I'd like to submit the prologue of my first novel tomorrow (that is if I find a way around a big hole one of my alpha readers talked to me about five minutes ago).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on February 28, 2011, 07:51:52 AM
List updated. Juan, I included you since it sounds like you're ready to submit tomorrow. Just send your submission to all [at] readingexcuses [dot] com in the format described in the thread I linked above. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on March 04, 2011, 10:01:10 PM
I should have something ready for this monday
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Juan Dolor on March 05, 2011, 05:03:25 PM
I have plenty of stuff ready, but no one has commented on my last submission, so I'm not sure there's a point in throwing something else up yet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 05, 2011, 05:08:49 PM
I've got another one.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: MannyBrainpan on March 05, 2011, 09:46:34 PM
I sent a PM to Silk, I think. I didn't get any response so I was just gonna let you know that I'm posting about 400-700 words of a story, on my blog every Tuesday. (I'm sorry, I didn't think to align it with your distribution day), just hoping to get some feedback from some people who like to write and read. I would like to be part of this group but I don't think I have time to read a chapter a week. Honest. If we don't have to hand in our feedback immediately I wouldn't mind being sent stuff.
Here is the link to my blog, the first bit of the story is posted on the home page so just scroll down.
http://www.brainpan.webs.com

Thanks,
          -Manny ;D
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 05, 2011, 10:34:04 PM
Hubay, Juan, LTU: You're on for next Monday. Juan, I'd go ahead and submit anyway--a new chapter might get more responses or spur people to look at the last one. Sometimes things are a little slow.

Manny: You don't necessarily have to respond to people's chapters right away, or respond to every chapter every week. Our guideline is at least one critique per every chapter you submit.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Catharascotia on March 08, 2011, 04:47:24 AM
Hi.  I'm new and I'd like to submit a chapter. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 08, 2011, 10:30:54 PM
I'll put you down for the upcoming week. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on March 09, 2011, 08:37:11 PM
Hi, I just joined up and would like to submit two chapters (don't worry, it's only just over 4,000 total words) this coming week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 09, 2011, 09:27:48 PM
Yeah I wanna try again to get something submitted this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 10, 2011, 02:41:51 AM
Three submissions lined up for the upcoming week already? Looks like it'll be a busy week. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: RiaRaen on March 10, 2011, 07:16:47 PM
is there room for one more? It is only small the beginnings of my re-write ^^
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 12, 2011, 08:17:43 PM
Yep. You're on.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on March 13, 2011, 05:24:46 PM
If you think there's more space, I'd also like to submit my next chapter this week (about 3200 words).
Otherwise, count me in for next week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 13, 2011, 08:22:46 PM
Well, you're the fifth person and I don't usually cap it 'til six, so go for it. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 17, 2011, 02:02:37 PM
I should have one done this week.  And I think it will be hilarious.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on March 17, 2011, 04:14:05 PM
I've got another one ready as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Skyhunter on March 17, 2011, 10:46:04 PM
I also have another chapter I can submit next week. (Of course, if we pass the limit and people who haven't gone recently want to submit, I have no problem waiting.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on March 17, 2011, 11:02:11 PM
^^Sorry about that; apparently I had made an account a year ago and forgot about it, and when I went on the site using firefox instead of chrome, it auto logged me in and I didn't notice the difference. ::) You can delete that post.

I also have another chapter I can submit next week. (Of course, if we pass the limit and people who haven't gone recently want to submit, I have no problem waiting.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on March 20, 2011, 06:41:26 PM
Three for tomorrow so far--looks like we probably aren't going to pass the cap anyway. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on March 27, 2011, 04:23:17 AM
Gonna try hard to get something out for Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on March 27, 2011, 12:48:40 PM
I should have my next chapter ready for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 04, 2011, 07:42:30 AM
Whee, I'm behind.

Hm. No one submitting this week?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on April 06, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Got something for next week, at least.  Tried, but couldn't get it for this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on April 08, 2011, 01:08:01 PM
Apparently someone hacked my Email account, changed my password and stuff.  Because I'm annoyingly paranoid, [email protected] is no longer in use and any emails coming from there . . . are not mine.

The new Email is [email protected]  Why?  Because I couldn't think of anything better.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 08, 2011, 06:23:01 PM
Mkay. I will add and delete email addresses accordingly.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on April 09, 2011, 10:34:30 PM
Alright, hopefully I'll have something finished by monday. if not feel free to shame me into working harder.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 09, 2011, 11:18:37 PM
Your wish, my command. :P

Could use some of that shame myself right now, actually...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on April 10, 2011, 05:00:27 PM
I have my next chapter ready for tomorrow : no need for shame when you have set deadlines :-)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on April 13, 2011, 05:59:51 PM
Another chapter ready for Monday.  Woot!  I'm on a roll!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on April 23, 2011, 12:49:23 AM
And another one.   I'm actually surprised I got it done.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on April 23, 2011, 05:13:43 AM
I'm stuck on this rape scene – I've never written that sort of bit before, and it makes me feel kind of strange seeing what I've come up with. But the rest of the chapter's done, so if I can't finish it I think I'll send it in and come back to the dark parts later.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on April 23, 2011, 08:41:47 AM
I should have my next piece ready by monday. No Easter for writers :-)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 26, 2011, 05:23:18 AM
I'm stuck on this rape scene – I've never written that sort of bit before, and it makes me feel kind of strange seeing what I've come up with. But the rest of the chapter's done, so if I can't finish it I think I'll send it in and come back to the dark parts later.

To be fair, doesn't exactly sound like it would be easy to write. Yikes.  (And make sure you tag it--I forgot to tag the violent bits in one of my subs once and I was mortified.)

Sorry for my absence lately, folks. End of semester madness here. A couple more days and I should be done. Well, "done."
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: kwkak37 on April 26, 2011, 09:01:25 AM
Um... I'm new around here, but I'm guessing this is where I say I want to submit something.

I'm currently writing a comic book script called "Paper Boy," where I try to avert or subvert as many superhero tropes as possible. At the same time it's a high school mystery graphic novel.
Currently I have about 100 pages but I'd like some feedback on whether my comic book would be interesting. I have the first half of Chapter 1 ready, just to see if characterization or pace is all right.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on April 26, 2011, 08:13:12 PM
Yup, this is the place. I'll put you down for next Monday. =)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: The Grumpy Buddha on May 01, 2011, 09:49:11 PM
I'd like to get in on the action, but I'll probably just be a voyeur at first -- critiquing as opposed to submitting.

I'm working on a little somethin' somethin' that's a cross between Raymond Chandler and Jim Hines' Goblin series. (I suppose Glen Cook's fantasy-PI bit would be the closest approximation, but I haven't read a ton of him.) I hope to have some work ready to submit with a month or so.

My email address is <myusernamesansspaces>.gmail.com
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on May 02, 2011, 01:35:56 AM
I got something really really really short for this week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 02, 2011, 01:38:54 AM
Go for it. Grumpy Bhudda: not a problem. I'll add you.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on May 02, 2011, 04:29:23 AM
I'll have something to submit this week, on the longer side.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 04, 2011, 03:48:25 AM
Got you.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on May 08, 2011, 03:13:51 PM
Ready to submit chapter 5 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 09, 2011, 02:17:24 AM
Sure thing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Jovarus on May 10, 2011, 09:27:01 AM
Newbie here.  I have a rough 1st chapter ready for some experimental novel that I started writing when I was bored in my free time.  If the submission date is full, that's entirely fine.  I can submit the next week and work on something else in the meantime.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: LongTimeUnderdog on May 11, 2011, 06:43:15 PM
Yay, I got the next chapter done!  I have something for Monday now.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 12, 2011, 03:51:15 AM
Jovarus: Go ahead and submit this Monday. Looks like we've only got three people so far anyway. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on May 19, 2011, 01:44:15 PM
I would love to submit my first chapter for Monday, if possible. If there's a waiting list, I understand though :) It's around 2,000 words if that info is needed.

Will
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on May 20, 2011, 11:33:04 PM
Whelp, finals are over, so it's back to writing! I have a new chapter for monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 22, 2011, 07:39:21 PM
Will and Hubay, you're on for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on May 27, 2011, 06:30:22 PM
I've got another chapter in the works, looks like it will be done by monday
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on May 28, 2011, 02:23:10 AM
I would love to submit my next chapter, if possible. Thanks!

Will777r
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on May 29, 2011, 11:18:23 PM
Yep. Looks like a quiet week so far. Go for it!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on June 03, 2011, 05:37:52 PM
I should have another chapter of my as of yet untitled sci-fi epic ready to submit for next week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 03, 2011, 07:35:39 PM
You bet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on June 05, 2011, 04:11:43 AM
If possible my chapter 3 is ready for submission on Monday :)

Will777r
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 05, 2011, 11:41:42 PM
You're in.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on June 13, 2011, 01:58:50 AM
It's been a really quiet week here...I would have a chapter ready for tomorrow, but seeing as my last submission (and Will777r's from this past week) have one comment between them, I wonder if I should wait and save it for next time.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 13, 2011, 07:00:22 AM
Sometimes that happens. Likely those submissions will collect a few more comments in the next couple of weeks as people finish up whatever else they're busy with right now, even if you submit something new. Field's wide open if you would like to submit tomorrow --I suspect it wouldn't hurt--but it's up to you. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on June 13, 2011, 11:36:20 PM
I think I'll just wait until next week. I'd rather not burden everyone with more to read, as everyone seems to be busy.

(And it gives me more time to write chapter 6....)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on June 14, 2011, 03:40:24 AM
Waiting until next week myself if that's okay.

Will777r
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 15, 2011, 06:44:03 PM
Of course. A week's break never hurts anyone. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on June 16, 2011, 02:26:39 PM
Alright, well I'm still going to toss something in monday. Even if we're low on traffic right now, I need a deadline to keep writing. If only I hadn't majored in journalism...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 16, 2011, 07:19:15 PM
Haha. Go for it. :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on June 26, 2011, 01:11:13 AM
I've got my next chapter ready if it's okay to submit on Monday.

Will777r
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on June 26, 2011, 01:33:48 AM
You bet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on June 26, 2011, 03:00:47 PM
Vacation + con = no writing done in  a month.

I'm almost glad it's all over now. My next chapter is ready for tomorrow.

Now, I have some critiquing to do...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on June 26, 2011, 09:03:28 PM
I might have a chapter ready for tomorrow, depending on how writing goes today.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Shiael on June 27, 2011, 04:55:35 AM
Man, I wish I had the time on my hands to produce that fast  :-\
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on July 03, 2011, 12:44:00 AM
I'll throw my hat into the ring for this coming week, if it's not already too late.

Just to be clear, it's around 4000 words, right?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 03, 2011, 08:13:24 AM
Go for it, Caleb.

Yeah, 4000 words is the ballpark, though it's a pretty, ahem, flexible guideline. :) Generally people don't seem to mind getting more than that.

By the way, everyone, after tomorrow I'm going to be away until the 12th of July.

...So anything that goes wrong during that time span is Chaos's fault. :P

See you all when I get back!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on July 04, 2011, 05:44:11 AM
I plan to submit a chapter today. (After getting some sleep that is.)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 04, 2011, 02:02:48 PM
Some what?

You're in. And I'm out. Back in a week, folks.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on July 05, 2011, 02:36:00 AM
I've now been reminded by Silk that, hey, I actually need to do something!

So, hi. Sorry I've been away so much. Good to see so many new people!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on July 09, 2011, 12:10:59 AM
I should hopefully have another chapter ready for next week.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on July 09, 2011, 04:24:42 AM
I should have my next chapter done by monday. Act 2 is over!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on July 10, 2011, 04:49:00 PM
My next chapter (7!) is ready for the group.
35 to go :-)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 12, 2011, 07:00:35 AM
I'm back, and guessing by the lack of new messages in my inbox that nothing exploded while I was gone :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on July 13, 2011, 01:10:29 AM
I'm jumping in early here, but I should have another chapter ready on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on July 16, 2011, 07:47:14 AM
Chapter 6 has been ready, but all heck broke loose this last week. If possible, I'd like to submit on Monday :)

Will777r
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 16, 2011, 07:09:13 PM
Sure thing.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: globalbergonzi on July 19, 2011, 10:04:35 PM
How should we go about sending our critiques?

Sorry if this has been answered before, but I couldn't find anything about those two questions in this forum.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on July 19, 2011, 10:32:51 PM
Email it to [email protected], with READING EXCUSES in the subject line so we know it's not spam. Then just attach your document, and put up a discussion on the forum so we can critique it. We'll try to get around to critiquing your story on the forum.

Did that answer your question?

-------

Also, I've got a chapter for next monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: globalbergonzi on July 20, 2011, 12:38:49 AM
Well that answered my future question... are you a mind reader?  :o

Anyways, I was actually wondering how critiques are submitted? For example I'm critiquing a story in this week's submissions and wondering how I go about sharing it with the writer?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on July 20, 2011, 01:48:49 AM
How should we go about sending our critiques?

Are you asking about sending the work to be critiqued?  Or about sending the critique on someone else's work?

For the first, hubay's answer is essentially correct, with caveats.  See the Welcome... post at http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6850.0 for more details.

For the second, that's what the other threads are for -- the ones with date, username, and title.  The comments on other people's works are supposed to be added to the appropriate discussion topic for that author and chapter (the dates help figure out which chapter was read when, for those like me that sometimes remember times better than names).
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: globalbergonzi on July 20, 2011, 02:08:46 AM
sending the critique on someone else's work.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on July 20, 2011, 02:25:04 AM
sending the critique on someone else's work.

Then as I mentioned, the other topics are for that purpose.  For example, last week had Akoebel, Hubay, and SkyhunterCommander post topics at:
http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=8387.0
http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=8388.0
http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=8391.0

This week, Will777r and I posted topics at
http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=8404.0
and
http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=8405.0

If you read some of the topics, or some of the older ones, you'll see how people offer a variety of critiques.  You can also reply to those topics (with the reply button on those pages) to post your own.  Also, the website keeps track of the posts you've read and haven't read, so once you read through some of  them, if new replies are added, a blue <new> badge shows up next to the topic.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on July 22, 2011, 08:57:53 AM
Just so you know, everyone, I'm going to be without 'Net access again until sometime Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on July 22, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
I'd like to send out my next chapter on Monday also if that's okay :)

Will777r
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on July 23, 2011, 02:16:20 AM
Since nobody else has spoken up, I can send another chapter Monday as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on July 25, 2011, 12:09:15 AM
I should have a chapter ready for tomorrow as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on July 25, 2011, 01:51:21 AM
Since nobody else has spoken up, I can send another chapter Monday as well.

I just realized exactly how hectic and busy this next week will be, so I'm going to hold back and not submit anything for this week (or the next, probably).  I like getting feedback, but it would drive me nuts to know there might be feedback waiting that I can't get to yet.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Sir Robert on August 03, 2011, 06:56:53 PM
How does one join the list?  Do I give my email address here?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on August 03, 2011, 11:05:16 PM
I'll have another chapter ready to submit for the 8th if that's ok :)

Will777r
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on August 03, 2011, 11:47:22 PM
@SirRobert
This works, but you should probably pm Silk just to make sure.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 04, 2011, 02:18:02 AM
The other advantage of PMing me is that every bot out there can't see your email address. =)

So, Will and Hubay for Monday?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Sir Robert on August 04, 2011, 02:54:10 AM
Thanks Silk for setting me up.  I can jump in on Monday if there is room.  Let me know.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 04, 2011, 03:38:23 AM
Gasp, I think I will submit on Monday.

It's been way too long since I've submitted. I know this because I have to look over the submission guidelines here--the guidelines that I wrote. Guh. Think the last time was 2009...
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 05, 2011, 07:34:46 AM
You're good to go, Robert.

Four people for Monday so far then--Will, Hubay, Robert and some guy I've never heard of. :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Amnonian on August 05, 2011, 11:44:32 AM
Can I submit a short story of mine? My novel is still in first draft, and I don't want to receive critique for it until I'm finished, but meanwhile I'd like to show a short story I've written some time ago.  :P
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 05, 2011, 01:58:29 PM
Amnonian: Absolutely you can submit short stories. Might want to label it as such in your email, because I think people have a tendency to assume that people are sending out novel chapters and it's caused a little confusion in the past.

That's five, then. Busy week! But room for one more at least.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on August 07, 2011, 02:46:30 PM
My next chapter is ready - it was ready a few weeks ago, but my primary alpha reader decided to take a few weeks off, and I wanted her input, since it's an important chapter.

If 4500 more words to read this week is OK with everyone, I'll post tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Sir Robert on August 09, 2011, 02:50:46 AM
I haven't received any submissions yet.  Is my name not on the list?
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Mad_Scientist on August 09, 2011, 03:34:16 AM
I haven't received any submissions yet.  Is my name not on the list?

Hmm. Not sure why you didn't get any. Hopefully Silk/Chaos can provide an answer.

On a different note, I was able to receive your submission, but it was a docx file, and I don't have software that can read those currently.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Mad_Scientist on August 09, 2011, 09:51:33 AM
I have a couple of quick submission related questions.

First, I'd like to submit something this coming Monday. My combined prologue and first chapter comes out to 5,273 words. I'd like to submit them together, though that's slightly over the "standard" word amount. If I just submited the prologue it would be less than half that length. Is everyone ok if I submit them together?

Second, are content tags supposed to be for the work as a whole or just what's being submited now? Because what I'll be sending this Monday has no violence or language whatsoever, but there definitely will be some notable violence later in the story, and possibly some swearing as well, though most of that will probably be in the style of "fantasy swearing."

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Sir Robert on August 09, 2011, 02:09:27 PM
I will send it again this morning in doc format. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on August 10, 2011, 03:07:27 AM
[A]re content tags supposed to be for the work as a whole or just what's being submited now? Because what I'll be sending this Monday has no violence or language whatsoever, but there definitely will be some notable violence later in the story, and possibly some swearing as well, though most of that will probably be in the style of "fantasy swearing."

I assumed it was just the particular submission.  That is what I did, last time, anyway.

Caleb
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on August 10, 2011, 03:10:30 AM
I'm back from vacation now -- and about ready to start relaxing after all the prep/travel/catch-up work is done.  I have another chapter to submit this Monday, assuming everyone's eyes have recovered by then.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 12, 2011, 07:35:15 PM
Yes, just for the particular submission. :)

And yes, go ahead and submit the whole thing, Matthew--we're pretty loose about that 4k word limit.

I'll put Matthew and Caleb down for Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: SkyhunterCommander on August 12, 2011, 07:53:56 PM
I (finally) finished chapter nine and I'll have it ready for Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 12, 2011, 11:09:00 PM
Yes, just for the particular submission. :)

And yes, go ahead and submit the whole thing, Matthew--we're pretty loose about that 4k word limit.

I'll put Matthew and Caleb down for Monday.

"Loose" is putting it lightly :P

I will submit Chapter Two of Rebirth on Monday.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on August 13, 2011, 07:19:11 PM
I also have something to submit on monday. I think my hiatus lasted long enough :)
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 13, 2011, 07:48:18 PM
That's five so far. Room for one or two more, anyway.

Robert: I've just tried re-adding you. Let me know if it still doesn't work.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Will777r on August 13, 2011, 10:37:26 PM
My next chapter is also ready, if there's still time to get in for Monday.

Will777r
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Guenhywvar on August 14, 2011, 12:20:35 AM
I was wondering if I could maybe submit the piece I am working on at the moment? It is not finished and needs a little work.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 14, 2011, 12:37:12 AM
Will, Guen, you're on--but that's seven already, so I'd better cap it there. List's full 'til next week.

Edit: I'm not sure whether this will be too many people are not, so let me know what you guys think. If people are having a hard time keeping up, or not getting enough feedback, or whatever, I might cap it at five or six in the future.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Sir Robert on August 14, 2011, 12:53:05 PM
Thanks Silk  I will look for it on Monday.  If there is still room I have a chapter ready as well.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on August 14, 2011, 03:38:38 PM
I'm not sure whether this will be too many people are not, so let me know what you guys think. If people are having a hard time keeping up, or not getting enough feedback, or whatever, I might cap it at five or six in the future.

Personally, it was easier for me to keep up when there were only three or four.  That may only be an artifact of my last two weeks, or it may be due to the way I review them and not a problem for other people.  That said, I would encourage a slightly smaller limit, even if it means I can't get mine reviewed as often as I might like.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 14, 2011, 08:48:27 PM
Five may be a good number.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 14, 2011, 09:05:11 PM
Robert, I'm going to have to ask you to wait until next week--we have seven people submitting and I suspect that this will already be too many.

Caleb: Noted, thanks. I'll see what other people think after this week. And remember, if you're having trouble you don't necessarily have to critique everything that comes through each week, or do it right away.

Mostly I want to make sure that we keep things small enough that everybody gets some feedback.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: hubay on August 15, 2011, 01:16:14 AM
I'm glad we're getting so much traffic right now. I think I'm going to reserve a spot for a week from tomorrow.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: cjhuitt on August 15, 2011, 02:32:43 AM
Caleb: Noted, thanks. I'll see what other people think after this week. And remember, if you're having trouble you don't necessarily have to critique everything that comes through each week, or do it right away.

I certainly haven't been getting to things right away.

I know I don't need to hit everything.  Still, looking at and critiquing other people's stories is kind of like weight-lifting for that part of my brain.  I'm working on the belief that practicing at critiques will allow me to do it better, probably more easily, and hopefully to my own work as well as other people's.  For now, I'm stretching myself by looking at all of the submissions and evaluating them, at least a little.  Then once I've read it and have some ideas for feedback, it would be a shame not to share it.

That said, I'll probably pare down my part at some point in the future, either in numbers or in depth.  Hopefully I'll learn to get right to the biggest items I'd like to say, instead of being longwinded.

Hmm.  Which is where this post is headed...

I'm glad we're getting so much traffic right now.

I agree with this also.  Having too much traffic is a wonderful problem to have.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Chaos on August 15, 2011, 08:23:53 PM
I'll skip submitting this next week. I'm in no hurry, so may as well let others submit :P

I really like how many submissions we are getting, too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Sir Robert on August 16, 2011, 01:35:26 AM
Didn't see your reply Silk and posted.  I will send a notice to disregard or for those seeing this just disregard that chapter. 
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Mad_Scientist on August 18, 2011, 07:33:19 PM
I probably won't be able to submit further work on my book this coming monday. I've been away from home doing stuff with family most of the week so far and expect that to continue till sunday, so I haven't gotten much writing done. (So don't expect much in the way of critiques from me this week either, though I'll at least read what was sent out)

Anyways, I do have a short story I've already written that I'd be interested in submitting, if there is a spot for me.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: akoebel on August 18, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
My next chapter should be ready by monday. If there are still slots available, I'm in!
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Sir Robert on August 18, 2011, 11:24:27 PM
I'll be ready as well
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Asmodemon on August 19, 2011, 09:03:27 AM
If there are still openings I'd like to submit too.
Title: Re: Email List + Submission Dates
Post by: Silk on August 20, 2011, 06:34:40 AM
I'll put all of you down for this week. Submissions for this Monday are now closed.

That's six--we'll try this and see how it goes. I suspect Chaos was onto something when he suggested a maximum of five people, but you guys can tell me what you think.