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Title: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: LostMagick on October 11, 2008, 05:10:50 PM
SO i work at barnes and noble and preordered this book months ago(of course) and we just so happened to get them in yesterday morning(friday) so naturally i bought it and read the hell out of it.  No spoilers here, just wanted to tell Brandon Sanderson excellent job, you are an amazing and original author and i absolutely loved the Mistborn trilogy (Elantris was awesome too!!)  And to all the fans this was definitely worth the wait.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 11, 2008, 08:43:46 PM
SO i work at barnes and noble and preordered this book months ago(of course) and we just so happened to get them in yesterday morning(friday) so naturally i bought it and read the hell out of it.  No spoilers here, just wanted to tell Brandon Sanderson excellent job, you are an amazing and original author and i absolutely loved the Mistborn trilogy (Elantris was awesome too!!)  And to all the fans this was definitely worth the wait.

Yeah! I just finished it. Though i refuse discuss the contents of the book until "The Crew" (as i have come to see us--in a way we are like Kel's crew...discussing the issues lighheartedly despite the intensity of sitting and waiting...lol)
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 11, 2008, 09:03:38 PM
Good job elmandr1. You must be a speed reader to finish the rest of the book in 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Wielder on October 11, 2008, 09:17:54 PM
Good job elmandr1. You must be a speed reader to finish the rest of the book in 20 minutes.

Caught red handed.  It sort-of angers me that HoA got out early....
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 11, 2008, 09:21:04 PM
Yes, it angers me too, but then I realize I have too much to do before Tuesday, so actually, I'm not that upset.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 11, 2008, 09:29:26 PM
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ookla was bad enough, now this!  How am I gonna last!  My friends are going to miss me for the next while, because I'm gonna be locked away reading that book until I am done!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 11, 2008, 09:31:42 PM
Good job elmandr1. You must be a speed reader to finish the rest of the book in 20 minutes.

actually. It took over three hours. I used two different computers to post each one. The time was off in one....DRRR--don't make me prove that I've read the book by revealing the end! I'll do it! lol.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 11, 2008, 09:34:13 PM
NO YOU WILL NOT!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 11, 2008, 09:37:23 PM
NO YOU WILL NOT!

No i won't, of course not... :-X--thats is just way to wicked. However, do not think your alone in your suffering--there is so much i want to say, share, discuss. Its almost unbearably keeping it all to myself--hurry up and read it!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 11, 2008, 09:39:07 PM
Tuesday, I shall. But not before. Mostly because I don't have it yet, but still...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 11, 2008, 09:40:55 PM
I have difficulty feeling your pain elmadr1, I really do.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 11, 2008, 09:42:11 PM
Oh, we've all known Ookla's hidden pain with knowing everything. Deep in there...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 11, 2008, 09:42:44 PM
I have difficulty feeling your pain elmadr1, I really do.

The book slapped me in the face dude! I mean, i didn't even see it coming!


lol, chew on that will you! mwuaahahah!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 11, 2008, 09:43:38 PM
Your evil laughter cuts through me like a knife, it really does.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 11, 2008, 09:44:41 PM
I have difficulty feeling your pain elmadr1, I really do.

The book slapped me in the face dude! I mean, i didn't even see it coming!


lol, chew on that will you! mwuaahahah!

This would be the point where I ask if you need to eat the hat, but I'm going to show restraint. Let's all show some restraint...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 11, 2008, 09:45:17 PM
Your evil laughter cuts through me like a knife, it really does.

knifes cutting through people...why does that remind me of something i just read.....? Hmm, whatever--im gonna go reread THE HERO OF AGES!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 11, 2008, 09:47:29 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 11, 2008, 09:50:47 PM
Ouch.

lol, i'm so evil...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Reaves on October 11, 2008, 10:12:21 PM
Wow I better take TWG off my bookmarks until I actually read the book...its only a matter of time until some crucial detail is revealed...

Not to mention the fact that I will want to e-strangle everyone who has read it already...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 11, 2008, 10:20:00 PM
Wow I better take TWG off my bookmarks until I actually read the book...its only a matter of time until some crucial detail is revealed...

Not to mention the fact that I will want to e-strangle everyone who has read it already...

lol, i don't i have a thugs neck...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 11, 2008, 10:37:51 PM
Did I mention that I hate you?

I can hardly stand the waiting any more! And seriously, I don't know if I can bear to not ask if you have to it your hat or when Reaves will have to start wearing a profile picture.

In the words of Coma:

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And TWG is totally not coming off of my bookmarks. I'll just hire a 350 pound guard to make sure that I don't go into any of the HoA Spoiler threads.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 11, 2008, 10:41:11 PM
Did I mention that I hate you?

I can hardly stand the waiting any more! And seriously, I don't know if I can bear to not ask if you have to it your hat or when Reaves will have to start wearing a profile picture.

In the words of Coma:

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And TWG is totally not coming off of my bookmarks. I'll just hire a 350 pound guard to make sure that I don't go into any of the HoA Spoiler threads.

hire a Koloss.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 11, 2008, 11:10:34 PM
*Pauses thoughtfully*

I'll have to look into that....
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 12, 2008, 01:11:43 AM
actually. It took over three hours. I used two different computers to post each one. The time was off in one....DRRR--don't make me prove that I've read the book by revealing the end! I'll do it! lol.

Except that it is most likely the server timestamp and would be independent of the posting computer's clock. Besides, I use an automatic refresher on my browser for forums and I noticed your first post and then 15 minutes later the other post.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 12, 2008, 03:29:56 AM
actually. It took over three hours. I used two different computers to post each one. The time was off in one....DRRR--don't make me prove that I've read the book by revealing the end! I'll do it! lol.

Except that it is most likely the server timestamp and would be independent of the posting computer's clock. Besides, I use an automatic refresher on my browser for forums and I noticed your first post and then 15 minutes later the other post.

i don't know how to explain that...really, im not sure how that happened. I can show you a picture of me reading the book...i could tell you something about the book...i could just ignore you--but i don't see why its so hard to believe...really, why do you not believe me?
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 12, 2008, 03:30:17 AM
Went to B&N this afternoon, where I reserved it, but they didn't have it yet (picked up Alcatraz though). Went to the Borders down the street, and they had a big display of them near the front.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 12, 2008, 03:33:06 AM
That's awesome. Hopefully that will get more people to buy Brandon's stuff.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 12, 2008, 03:53:47 AM
Well, it's the one he's going to be signing at in Torrance, so that explains the display. (There were a bunch of "signing calendar" flyers too.) But still...they shouldn't have released it early.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 12, 2008, 04:12:59 AM
Oh, that explains it. If there was a gigantic display at the Borders in Bozeman, I would hop right on down. But alas, they have no copies of it. For shame (though that could just mean they don't have their copies yet, or they are waiting until Tuesday).

Of course, since I've already preordered one copy from Amazon and bought another from Sam Weller's, there's no necessity to go haywire and try and find a mythical early copy. I have some sense of self-control.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Miyabi on October 12, 2008, 07:04:58 AM
I have some sense of self-control.
Don't lie, we all know how many copies of the books you have. X]
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 12, 2008, 07:36:31 AM
And I'm out in the boonies, two hours away from a bookstore, which probably won't have it out yet anyways...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Miyabi on October 12, 2008, 06:17:00 PM
And I'm out in the boonies, two hours away from a bookstore, which probably won't have it out yet anyways...

That sucks.  I would die if I was that far from a book store.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 12, 2008, 07:55:45 PM
You get used to it, it just means whenever I get in to a bookstore, I usually buy in bulk.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 12, 2008, 08:52:29 PM
You get used to it, it just means whenever I get in to a bookstore, I usually buy in bulk.

huh, i enter i book store with the initial intentions of either buying A book, or just browse--something happens in the in-between, something uncontrollable.

i leave with a stack of books, and a smile that'll challenge a nine-quarter-moon...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: EUOL on October 13, 2008, 04:05:06 AM
We'll need a "Mistborn: Hero of Ages" Spoliers thread here soon.  Someone feel free to make one on midnight Tuesday morning and I'll stop by and sticky it.  That will be the thread where I'll answer questions and give explanations.

Glad to hear the book is releasing, even if it is annoying when stores up their copies out early... ;)

--Brandon
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 13, 2008, 04:14:06 AM
Hey Brandon, welcome back to the forums!

I know elmandr created one spoiler topic here, http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6134.0, but that may just be for fellow theorizers (as he calls us, "The Crew") to post reactions to Hero of Ages, not necessarily the Q&A topic you are looking for. You'd have to ask him what his intentions were with that topic.

I can't wait until my copy arrives in the mail :P
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 13, 2008, 04:26:34 AM
I can't wait to get on that questions thread!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Bookstore Guy on October 13, 2008, 05:54:16 PM
I HATE when stores release books early.  Just shows poor management and a lazy staff.  Most of the time th boxes come LABELED with the street date.  And then there is that list that comes in the mail with the next month to 2 months worth of release dates.  There are release dates for reasons - especially at this time of the year.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 13, 2008, 06:05:41 PM
Well, I have already received my book but am holding off because I want time to sit down and read it in one shot, which is proving difficult with such a tight programming deadline. I might have to wait a week or two, so once I post my final theory, I'll probably be missing from the forums until then.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 13, 2008, 07:02:56 PM
You are a stronger man than I VegasDev.  I admire you.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: jnktoburen on October 13, 2008, 07:04:38 PM
I called Borders today and picked HoA up during my lunch hour. I skimmed the end. (Don't yell at me for reading the end of the book first. I always do that. I don't have the time to explain why I read the ends of books first, but my reasons are quite sound.)

Basically, I can't wait to read/digest HoA. This is a huge undertaking - I hope that Sanderson manages to pull this off. I sincerely hope that I'm not going to be repeating my reaction to Orson Card's Xenocide/Children of the Mind offering. Card bit off too much and under-delivered in almost every facet of those books. Sanderson has taken a huge bite. Now, can he manage it? Personally, I think he can.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 13, 2008, 07:24:41 PM
You are a stronger man than I VegasDev.  I admire you.

It's either read a few chapters here and there and lose the experience or wait until I have this Casino programmed. They bumped up my dealine a full two weeks, so I have to really buckle down. Thank goodness I have a browser refresher so I can keep up with the latest news on TWG in between code compiles.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 13, 2008, 07:27:49 PM
Wow dude, that is quite possibly the worst timing to have a deadline bumped up. Bumped right into Hero of Ages...
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: SarahG on October 13, 2008, 08:20:53 PM
I skimmed the end. (Don't yell at me for reading the end of the book first. I always do that. I don't have the time to explain why I read the ends of books first, but my reasons are quite sound.)

Did you also skip straight to the last page when you read Alcatraz vs. the Evil Librarians?   ;)

EDIT:  Like Vegas, I will probably be absent from the boards for awhile - if I can control myself to that extent.  So you'll temporarily be relieved of Tindwyl's presence.   :)
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Czanos on October 13, 2008, 08:24:34 PM
See you after you've read the book! (I assume.)

And I would kill myself if I read the end of the book first. You miss out on all that buildup.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: wvlr on October 13, 2008, 08:31:46 PM
I got it early Saturday and just finished it!!         GREAT BOOK!!     Is there a place we can discuss it before I start more leasurly Re-read????
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: jnktoburen on October 13, 2008, 08:40:41 PM
And I would kill myself if I read the end of the book first. You miss out on all that buildup.

I understand how most people feel about reading the end first. And I certainly don't tell everyone else to do what I do. I read the end of books first simply because of a preference I developed while earning my BA in English.

I really get into stories. I love the flow and function of stories. Frequently, the ends of books won't jive with the flow of a story (at least in my opinion they don't), and then I feel jilted at the end. (The Matrix Revolutions is a great example of an end which did not fit the form of the story. They had the epic Hero thing going and then they took a hard right at Christianity before doing the Dune ending. It was bizarre.) Also, because of my schooling I really can't read without a critical eye anymore. Believe me it sucks in many ways, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't go back, but I can't just dig in and enjoy - I have to understand why I'm enjoying. Make sense?

Therefore, I read the end of books so I can "see" where the story's headed. If the ending doesn't fit or it's forced, then I'm not surprised. Plus, when I say "I read the end." I mean I read a couple of paragraphs to get the gist of the end. I don't get all the hard details. I think I got the gist of HoA. That's why I say BA has really tackled a monster. I can't wait to see how it all plays out.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 13, 2008, 08:46:04 PM
I got it early Saturday and just finished it!!         GREAT BOOK!!     Is there a place we can discuss it before I start more leasurly Re-read????

Well, a Spoiler's thread will be stickied Tuesday morning, and that will be when you can begin discussion.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: wvlr on October 13, 2008, 09:01:38 PM
Well, a Spoiler's thread will be stickied Tuesday morning, and that will be when you can begin discussion.

Great!     That gives me time to (mostly)  re-read!!!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 13, 2008, 09:21:57 PM
Therefore, I read the end of books so I can "see" where the story's headed. If the ending doesn't fit or it's forced, then I'm not surprised. Plus, when I say "I read the end." I mean I read a couple of paragraphs to get the gist of the end. I don't get all the hard details. I think I got the gist of HoA. That's why I say BA has really tackled a monster. I can't wait to see how it all plays out.

Hogwash. That's like saying you'd watch the last 5 minutes of The Sixth Sense, The Usual Suspects and Fight Club and not have your experience ruined. If you read the last chapter and find out a character dies before the end, chances are you will build an emotional wall so that you don't get attached.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: EUOL on October 13, 2008, 09:32:13 PM
You ending-readers is why I put the endings in the Alcatraz books that I did.

Hint: It makes fun of you.

Let's wait on the spoiler thread at least until tonight.  I don't want to taunt people who weren't able to get the book early.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: jnktoburen on October 13, 2008, 09:48:54 PM
Hogwash. That's like saying you'd watch the last 5 minutes of The Sixth Sense, The Usual Suspects and Fight Club and not have your experience ruined. If you read the last chapter and find out a character dies before the end, chances are you will build an emotional wall so that you don't get attached.

Interesting that you bring that up. I saw the last 5 minutes of Fight Club accidentally. Had no idea what I was watching was the end of Fight Club (how could you?). Saw the movie some time later. Figured out pretty quick that I knew the ending already. Completely did not blow it for me.

I guess it's a big difference between how I enjoy stories and how others enjoy stories. Most people like the buildup and the surprise at the end. I'm into quality prose and story fabric. I'm more interested in the journey. Emile Zola wrote an amazing book called Germinal. The story is rip-your-guts-out powerful. The flow of the story in that book dumped you squarely into the end and even though the end is pretty hard-core, it was born from the story so naturally, the book could literally end no other way. I don't have a problem with characters dying. I have a problem when a story deviates from itself in order to shock the reader/viewer. It must make sense. If the ending comes out of left field, then the story must reflect the plausibility of this in some way. It takes a great deal of skill to craft a story that both surprises/haunts and yet leaves you feeling as if that was the only possible ending.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: jnktoburen on October 13, 2008, 09:51:29 PM
You ending-readers is why I put the endings in the Alcatraz books that I did.

Hint: It makes fun of you.

That's hilarious. I haven't read the Alcatraz books yet. I probably wouldn't read the end of those anyway - but now I definitely won't.  :)
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 13, 2008, 10:14:06 PM
I still fail to understand how reading the end gives you any glimpse of whether it just came out of left field or not, because you don't have any point of reference. You say you're more interested in the journey, yet skip to the end? That just doesn't make any sense. If you already know how they got there, how does that even allow you to experience the journey?

I'm sure many have experienced haunted houses growing up and know about the bowl full of eyeballs. If you've never experienced one but are going to, please ignore the rest of this post. Would you still experience it the same if you peeled the grapes yourself, then were blindfolded and told that you are actually reaching into a bowl full of eyeballs?

I'm not trying to change your mind, I will tell you the suprise ending of any movie or book I know if you want, I just fail to see how it does anything but ruin the story.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Reaves on October 13, 2008, 10:18:32 PM
I still fail to understand how reading the end gives you any glimpse of whether it just came out of left field or not, because you don't have any point of reference. You say you're more interested in the journey, yet skip to the end? That just doesn't make any sense. If you already know how they got there, how does that even allow you to experience the journey?

I'm sure many have experienced haunted houses growing up and know about the bowl full of eyeballs. If you've never experienced one but are going to, please ignore the rest of this post. Would you still experience it the same if you peeled the grapes yourself, then were blindfolded and told that you are actually reaching into a bowl full of eyeballs?

I'm not trying to change your mind, I will tell you the suprise ending of any movie or book I know if you want, I just fail to see how it does anything but ruin the story.

Wow that is quite possibly the coolest analogy I have ever seen or heard of.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: jnktoburen on October 13, 2008, 10:29:03 PM
VegasDev,

I guess we'll just have to disagree. Somehow - and I know that it's tough for you to understand this - I actually enjoy stories more when I know the end. Who knows, if I hadn't spent several years peeling stories apart and examining their every nuance from several different critical perspectives, I might feel differently. As I've said, I don't relish my position, it simply is what it is.

I have not only peeled the grapes. I have looked at myriad ways of peeling, examining each method and comparing the results to actual eyeballs. Checked responses with mood and backdrops. Then done it all again, but this time looking at it from a Feminist POV.

Wow... that really was a excellent illustration on your part.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 13, 2008, 10:44:15 PM
Somehow - and I know that it's tough for you to understand this - I actually enjoy stories more when I know the end.

I think you misunderstand me. I am not arguing about reading and enjoying stories more when you know the end, that's what happens when you read the book the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. time. I am arguing that you have removed the blissfully ignorant perspective. The perspective of not knowing the outcome, just like the characters involved. Not knowing who will survive if anyone does. Not knowing that what you thought was the truth was actually deviously inaccurate.

I will disagree with you however, on a feminists POV on grapes. Grapes are grapes, they're not apples or oranges.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 13, 2008, 11:12:36 PM
I see what you are saying jnktoburen, and in some ways I agree with you.  I also enjoy going through a book and seeing how it all flows together, and I like picking it apart as well.  However, I usually do this on my SECOND read of the book.  I'll read through really quickly just to get through and get to the end.  It's always kind of a hazy time for me.  Then I'll reread with a clear head and see how everything works together.  Afterwards, it can get a little confusing, for example: I can no longer remember ever thinking the log book author was Rashek, or that the power in the well was not supposed to be released, because when I was surprised by it, I was in such a haze of enjoyment and suspense, that I just didn't commit it to memory.  To me it feels sort of like I always knew, even though I know I didn't.

We'll miss you Sarah!  Get back soon!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: bhthomas on October 14, 2008, 01:17:08 AM
Long ago for reasons even I don't know after reading the first chapter in any book I would always jump and read the last paragraph.Its not reading the  whole last chapter so I don't know all that happens but it gives me a glimpse of how the story ends up.
And for the people that don't understand why some people like to read the ending first I like to compare it to really good history films. Every one already knows what happens in the end but people can still enjoy it a lot.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Qarlin on October 14, 2008, 02:17:25 AM
It varies from person to person; I have never cared whether I knew an ending before hand or not. I do enjoy trying to figure it out and such but yeah. However, one of my brothers hates it when you tell him how it ends. It just varies on opinion.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Reaves on October 14, 2008, 03:10:00 AM
Yeah I can kinda see why you would want to read the end. But for me I like to put myself in the shoes of the characters.       Sometimes I even find myself adopting their facial expressions...They have no idea how its going to end, so why should I?
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: jnktoburen on October 14, 2008, 04:58:08 AM
Really outstanding discussion.

It comes down to preferrence. There will always be ending readers. There will always be those who'd never want to know the ending first.

Happily, we all get to enjoy the book in our way. We all get to "win".

Well, I'm 150 pages in... back to it!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: darxbane on October 14, 2008, 06:07:45 PM
I have the book also, but have not finished it yet.  My reading has really slowed down lately, but I am rereading and analyzing a lot, so that might be why.  I preordered it from Amazon, but saw it at borders on Sunday and couldn't wait.  I did not read the ending, but I did check out the ars arcanum.  Not any real spoilers in it.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 14, 2008, 06:56:13 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread so this was the best area to post this request/suggestion.

Would it be possible to arrange a live chat room with Brandon, Ookla, et. al sometime in the coming days after the books release?

Many cannot attend a signing or party and it would be a nice treat for everyone to give their thanks to Brandon and discuss the books that have created lifelong fans. I know Brandon's free time is few and far between and something like this may not be possible, which is why I suggested Ookla or any other person that was involved from the get-go whom might have some knowledge not easily gleaned from the books.

We'll have plenty of time between Sanderson books to chat on the forums, it seemed that an event like this might warrant something more personal. Anyway, that's just my 2¢.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: jnktoburen on October 14, 2008, 08:27:57 PM
Gotta second VegasDev's suggestion.

Let's all love on BS a little, and get some of those extra details we all love.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 14, 2008, 10:11:12 PM
Has everyone read Patrick Rothfuss's review of Hero of Ages on Amazon?

"I was lucky enough to get an advance reading copy of this book a while back. And I have to say that Sanderson's storytelling keeps getting better and better.

"Simply said, Brandon Sanderson's books are so good that they're starting to piss me off. It just doesn't seem fair that someone should be about to write this well, this fast.

"I don't believe in spoilers, so I will say simply this. Everything comes to good resolution in this final book. It all fits. It all makes sense. But at the same time I didn't see it coming. That doesn't happen very often."
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 15, 2008, 01:14:34 AM


I was at work today at my college library, and we, the employees, had to step outside and go through a mandatory fire lesson. There was a trailer waiting for us at the parking lot. We entered it. The fireman told us the obvious--lay low, feel the door, get out stay out. You know.

To get to the point, the trailer emits smoke from the ground and walls, to show people what its like in an actual fire. He said that the smoke he was using wasn't poisonous and was also a bit lighter in color.

"...Like Mist."

Imagine me, sitting there, everyone saying "wow, thats pretty awesome..." and me saying..."Please don't choke me, please don't choke me, please don't choke me..."

lol.

"Sir you ok?" says the Fireman.

"huh?" i squinted. "holy crap, The mist spirit! Wow, i didn't imagine you with a gut. Or side burns for that matter..."

Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 15, 2008, 09:30:42 PM
I finally found time to read the book, starting yesterday afternoon and finishing sometime in the early morning hours. I wanted to share a little bit of my experience but am afraid that my words will sound contrived, please do not take them as such.

To say that I was surprised with how emotionally vested I became with this series is an understatement. I can remember crying only a few times in my adult life; when my grandfather passed, when my son was born and at various times throughout this book.

I fully understand that these are fictional characters in a work of fantasy but my journey with them was more than that of a spectator leafing through the pages of a book; I developed an emotional connection just as I would with family or friend. I tried to internalize these emotions as best I could but they still found ways to bubble to the surface.

My son (Alex, 2 years old) takes a bath every night just before bed, I read him a book or two and then tuck him in. Last night, of course, I was reading Mistborn 3 and was just finishing a section about Spook that was particularly emotional to me. Alex walked up to my chair wearing his pajamas and asks "Are you ok Daddy?", patting my leg to console me. I didn't even realize I had tears streaming down my cheeks. I didn't answer but instead picked him up in a hug and carried him to his room for book time.

Obviously, I was able to experience the full gamut of emotions reading these books, from excitement, joy to sadness. That was not the last time I cried either, but stands out to me because of it's importance. In the coming years, I will still be able to enjoy your books, reading new ones as they come, experiencing old ones again and again.

I simply wanted to say Thank You Brandon. Not because you wrote an exceptional series, but because in 13 years or so I will be watching my son while he reads and when he gets to Spooks chapter, pat him on the leg and ask "Are you ok Alex?".
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Reaves on October 16, 2008, 01:02:52 AM
Wow, that is so cool. That is the sort of thing I think every author lives for; for their words to touch the hearts and minds of their readers. I can only think of perhaps one or two books that have been that emotionally charged for me. I can tell this will be another one to add to that list. I can't wait to pick it up!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 16, 2008, 05:49:41 AM
I'm about 280 pages in, and I really don't have time to read, but I keep making it. This book is amazing.  I'll probably stay off the next few days until I'm able to finish it. See ya guys then!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Czanos on October 16, 2008, 11:57:28 PM
Well, I got the book last night at the Sam Weller's signing, and just finished it.

With the memories fresh in my mind, I can only agree with VegasDev. These books have the power to touch people. To make them trust more in the world, to change their lives for the better.

Seventy years from now, when I'm either old or dead, I hope my children, and their children, and even their children will still read these books. They contain messages that do not dull over time.

I would like to humbly thank Brandon for sticking to his dreams and giving us these stories.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Chaos on October 17, 2008, 12:22:14 AM
In my English 339 class at MSU, one of the texts I'm reading really said that genre fiction has no merit because the stories are completely formulaic and interchangeable. Then, she mentioned that Harry Potter is a work of genre fiction trying to be more than that.

Well, I humbly present this author--who says that genre fiction has no literary merit--the Mistborn trilogy, a series unique, powerful, exciting, and logical. It is a work like nothing else, a real inspiration to aspiring writers (like me) to strive to make new, unique stories with powerful characters. And a fantastic magic system, one which is simple, yet complex.

Mistborn is a refreshing tale, one of the finest fantasy stories I have read. The characters are extraordinarily real, and like Czanos said, they contain messages that do not dull over time. Of course, in my opinion, Mistborn is more about being an entertaining story first. The fact that it succeeds in both entertaining value and deeper meaning is just a testament to Brandon's skill.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 17, 2008, 01:11:51 AM
I enjoyed Harry Potter, but it is SO formulaic, and there was such a waste of potential to make Snape's character more complex in the final book. Sigh.

Eventually, people are going to say that Harry Potter has nothing on Brandon. Alcatraz may be a bit too quirky to appeal to a lot of the Harry Potter crowd, but Scribbler could be gigantic.

Okay, I'm being overly optimistic, because you just can't predict a success like Harry Potter. So many random factors go into a bestseller like that that don't necessarily correlate to how good the book is. If the audience for Scribbler can find out about it, it's going to be huge, but it takes a lot of word of mouth.

Anyway, Brandon's books are anything but formulaic. They're such a breath of fresh air. And he's only getting better and better.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: VegasDev on October 17, 2008, 01:38:00 AM
...but Scribbler could be gigantic....

....If the audience for Scribbler can find out about it, it's going to be huge, but it takes a lot of word of mouth.

Agreed. I have done alot of fan art, 3D modeling, etc. because I thought it was a great book. I've been hoping he gets it published because I know alot of teenagers that liked Alcatraz but it was just a bit too young for them and Mistborn/Elantris was too old. Scribbler fit that young adult to adult range.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 17, 2008, 07:36:54 PM
Here are a couple blogs/reviews I ran across.

http://kirbyfrank.blogspot.com/2008/10/hero-of-ages.html
http://ofblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/brandon-sanderson-hero-of-ages.html
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Comatose on October 17, 2008, 07:58:02 PM
(clap clap)
That was fricken amazing!
I loved it!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 19, 2008, 05:51:13 AM
I read until 2 in the morning, and that was knowing I had to get up at 4 the next day. It was more than worth every second of sleep I lost.

BEST BOOK EVER!

Ok. I felt the need. Now you can all go on with your lives.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: GreenMonsta on October 21, 2008, 11:58:16 PM
No book for GM. I am away from home and my book is at home. :(. I think I might cry
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Reaves on October 22, 2008, 12:06:05 AM
Yeah I just want to say the book was fricking AMAZING!!!!! I would say more, but I am afraid that would cheapen it...I feel like my heart is still pounding almost a day later.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 22, 2008, 01:31:22 AM
Yeah I just want to say the book was fricking AMAZING!!!!! I would say more, but I am afraid that would cheapen it...I feel like my heart is still pounding almost a day later.

...the best part is...i'm not sure its over...i mean, is it?
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Qarlin on October 22, 2008, 06:50:54 AM
Over for some years... After Brandon gets a few seconds together to breath, maybe we'll see some more. :)
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: bhthomas on October 22, 2008, 08:39:16 AM
Its 12:35 in the morning and after 4 days I finally finished it.Wow.Its just... WOW. Now i have to take another 4 days to get through the spoilers thread since it seems to be growing rather fast.

Again, Best book  ever and the greatest ending possible.
Thank you Brandon Sanderson!
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Shrain on October 24, 2008, 02:08:43 AM
Has everyone read Patrick Rothfuss's review of Hero of Ages on Amazon?
"Simply said, Brandon Sanderson's books are so good that they're starting to piss me off. It just doesn't seem fair that someone should be about to write this well, this fast."
ROTFL. Oh, boy. You know, as much as I love Brandon's work, it makes me look at my own half-finished bits of different stories and think, "Ha, why did I ever think I could be a published author again?" But then I think about one thing that Brandon said in a Writing Excuses ep. He said (to paraphrase) that both tenacity an talent matter. Sometimes, you can have 90% talent but only 10% tenacity and so you just don't stay in the game long enough or put in enough time to get published or be more than a one-book wonder. I think perhaps I just need to be more tenacious and well, not to compare myself to one of the best new SF authors in the biz. ;)
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 24, 2008, 08:06:28 AM
One of the great things about Brandon's writing philosophy is that he's not afraid to take those bits of stories that didn't work somewhere and put them somewhere else where they work better. He's not married to the integrity of a work; when Mistborn Prime and Final Empire Prime didn't work, he wasn't afraid to scrap them and build something awesome from the scraps. That's a huge example of killing your darlings.

Even knowing that as long as I have, it didn't really sink completely home until tonight how far Brandon is willing to go to make a book as good as it can be. Brandon told me at dinner that he's just decided to cannibalize something from Dragonsteel to put it into Way of Kings—one of the best parts of the book. I honestly never thought he would cannibalize Dragonsteel, but now that he knows he's not going to get back to Dragonsteel for at least ten years, even that is fair game in order to make Way of Kings awesome. (Inkthinker is also partly responsible for the inspiration to do this.) I was always kind of ambivalent about Way of Kings—it didn't quite gestalt for me like his other books such as Dragonsteel did. But now—now I'm really excited for it.
Title: Re: Hero of Ages, job well done
Post by: Elmandr on October 24, 2008, 04:30:43 PM
One of the great things about Brandon's writing philosophy is that he's not afraid to take those bits of stories that didn't work somewhere and put them somewhere else where they work better. He's not married to the integrity of a work; when Mistborn Prime and Final Empire Prime didn't work, he wasn't afraid to scrap them and build something awesome from the scraps. That's a huge example of killing your darlings.

Even knowing that as long as I have, it didn't really sink completely home until tonight how far Brandon is willing to go to make a book as good as it can be. Brandon told me at dinner that he's just decided to cannibalize something from Dragonsteel to put it into Way of Kings—one of the best parts of the book. I honestly never thought he would cannibalize Dragonsteel, but now that he knows he's not going to get back to Dragonsteel for at least ten years, even that is fair game in order to make Way of Kings awesome. (Inkthinker is also partly responsible for the inspiration to do this.) I was always kind of ambivalent about Way of Kings—it didn't quite gestalt for me like his other books such as Dragonsteel did. But now—now I'm really excited for it.

Authors like Brandon are an inspiration. I cant wait for more Sanderson... Ahem, i meant his books. *Awkward silence looms heavy.*