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Local Authors => Brandon Sanderson => Topic started by: firstRainbowRose on July 28, 2008, 09:34:06 AM
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I was being bored on youtube tonight, and was typinging in different book titles I love (there are some weird videos on there if you type in the right book titles... O.o) and I stumbled across this. I think it's way cool to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqjWP18hPHE
My only issue is the white hair. Unless I forget myself, that means that Siri (because I don't think Viv would ever wear something like that. Even at the end she's too conservitive for such an outfit.) is scared... but then again, considering the sword I assume they have, it might be a proper thing anyways.
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WOW!
That guy is AMAZING! Thanks for posting this.
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Heh, it was much less conservative before. ;) Here's the thread (http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=5554.0) with the original mockups.
This video is very cool.
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that was very cool thanks for posting the link. i had no idea the amount of work involved in a book cover. it makes me apreciate the good ones that much more.
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Awesome.
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The cover looks good but i have to say i like the orange one. The dresses are supposed to be real colorful.I cant wait for this book to come out. I already read 4.0 but reading a book on the computer just isnt the same as reading it in ,well a book. Is there a confirmed date for it yet or is it still just fall 2008?
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Does anyone know for sure whether the picture is supposed to be Siri or Vivenna? I agree with firstRainbowRose that the style of the dress (and, I might say, the pose) suggests Siri. However, everyone in the original thread that Ookla linked seemed to think it was Vivenna, because of the sword. Anyone have the authoritative answer?
Thanks for sharing this, by the way, it's very cool.
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i would assume Siri as most of her story does take place in, well, a bedroom.
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i would assume Siri as most of her story does take place in, well, a bedroom.
OK, but does anyone know for sure? As in, communicated with the artist and/or EUOL about this? (Also, if it's Siri, why is Nightblood there, unsheathed no less?)
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nightblood is supposed to be black, right?
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nightblood is supposed to be black, right?
Oh yeah, you're right. But I still don't remember Siri having a sword.
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imo its probably there to show the audience its not just a romance novel ;D
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My opinion may not mean much as I haven't read the book, but as a fantasy fan I don't really like the cover. There just isn't enough to the cover to pull in a passer by. Of course I will buy the book, but if I weren't a Sanderson fan and I saw a book with this cover I may not be pulled to it.
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ok the realization that the cover may not have a direct relation to the story isnt unheard of. there are many books that take images from the story and cross them to attract readers interest. i.e. a beatiful woman in a gown on her knees with a mysterious colored whisp eminating from her mouth while holding a sword. this combines multiple elements from the story designed to attract attention to the back of the book where a new reader will find a short description maybe involving some of the things on the cover. i get it, this scene probably never happened in the book but that is beside the point. the cover isnt ment to describa a scene it ment to portray the book to potential buyers. did you ever see the cover of Elantris, when did the gyorn and the princess ever stand infront of Elantris while it wasnt cover in grime with seons flying all over the place. it didnt happen.
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I always thought that it was vivenna on the cover, as she is the one who would be using bioChroma, not siri. That would also explain nightblood. And I think the sword is regular steel, but it's sheath is black.
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I like it. :)
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I always thought that it was vivenna on the cover, as she is the one who would be using bioChroma, not siri. That would also explain nightblood. And I think the sword is regular steel, but it's sheath is black.
that would explain it. the sword could be the artists idea of nightblood
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I always thought that it was vivenna on the cover, as she is the one who would be using bioChroma, not siri. That would also explain nightblood. And I think the sword is regular steel, but it's sheath is black.
actually, that's reversed. Nightblood is black, and his sheath is regular steel. And it does make sense for it to be Viv, but that dress is a bit too revealing for her. Even by the end it seems she wouldn't wear something with a neckline like that. (Although, the color is right.)
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I always thought that it was vivenna on the cover, as she is the one who would be using bioChroma, not siri. That would also explain nightblood. And I think the sword is regular steel, but it's sheath is black.
actually, that's reversed. Nightblood is black, and his sheath is regular steel. And it does make sense for it to be Viv, but that dress is a bit too revealing for her. Even by the end it seems she wouldn't wear something with a neckline like that.
you mean, does not?
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Nah, does. The logic (viv is the one that played with Biocramatics (can't spell, too lazy to look it up) and the one who was around nightblood so much, as well as the simple colors) does suggest it would be Viv, but the neckline is what throws me off.
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I am also confused, and I don't think that sword is Nightblood. There is no black smoke coming off the blade, and it is way too short. Nightblood almost drags on the ground when Vasher has it on his belt. I havent' been able to look at the youtube version though. I have only seen the one posted from last year.
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yes the sword pictured there has no connection to the Nightblood described in Warbreaker, besides the fact that it is sharp and generally used to cut people.
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As for the question of Siri or Viv, I'm pretty much positive it's Siri. Her wedding dress is silver and blue. (I'll post the full discption when I'm not on my phone. It's too much of a pain.)
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But Siri doesn't use Biochroma, so why would breath be coming out of her?
So definately Vivenna. And yeah, the dress throws me off, but quite honestly, that's such a minor thing for a cover. The breath is the important part and, point blank, Siri doesn't use Biochroma.
--- I really like this cover, either way.
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Well, even people who don't use BioChroma still have it. Near the beginning, the doctor who inspected Siri said she had a healthy breath. Awakeners don't have rainbow-colored breath. This is clearly an artistic representation of the whole idea of breath being connected to colors. So I don't think the rainbow breath is a valid argument for the girl being Vivenna; it could just as easily be Siri.
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It would be really great if some higher power would come down and tell us lowly mortals who it is.
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I completely agree. But they are entirely too fond of keeping secrets, so much so, that they even keep unnecessary secrets like this one! Either that, or they're just too busy with higher matters. :)
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I completely agree. But they are entirely too fond of keeping secrets, so much so, that they even keep unnecessary secrets like this one! Either that, or they're just too busy with higher matters. :)
It's times like these we need our own little Prometheus. ROFL
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Hey Everyone,
My name is Dan Dos Santos.
I am the guy who painted the cover for Brandon's upcoming Warbreaker.
I was browsing through here, and saw that there were a LOT of questions regarding my intentions for this cover.
I figured I would register to answer some of them.
The first thing to remember is that a cover is like a visual montage...
it describes concepts, not just literal depictions.
The girl on the cover is Siri, in her silver and blue wedding gown.
Her hair is white to signify her anxiety before the wedding.
I know Siri does not use her breath, but she still possesses it, and I felt it important to depict since it is such a major element of the story.
I am also aware that it looks like a tongue or ribbon.
The Art Director and I toyed around with it a bit, but a more natural (mist-like) depiction of breath made her look like she was smoking.
So instead, I decided to make it a conceptual design element.
I know not everyone's a fan of it, but it was a personal choice.
The sword is NOT supposed to Nightblood.
The sword was placed there to help reinforce the concept of WAR.
(and as someone suggested, it prevented the cover from looking too romantic)
It's purpose is purely symbolic.
Long story short, the book is beautiful .
It would be near impossible to capture everything I loved about it in a single image.
Instead, a Cover Artist needs to make compromises in order to create an image that captures the ESSENCE of the story (while still making a marketable cover).
For those interested,
I am attaching an alternate sketch that was also considered for the project.
Unfortunately, it never made it past the sketch phase.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/DSillustration/warbreaker_concept_1.jpg)
Again, you can see how one might handle the THEME of color.
Here I proposed a cover depicting Vashar.
Given the title, it was important to decide WHO I felt the 'Warbreaker' was.
Was it Vashar, Viv, Siri, or even Nightblood?
I read a very early version of the book, and I had only suspicions of the direction it may go in.
Thanks for all the kind comments and criticisms... I appreciate them all.
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Welcome, Dan. I loved the video, and I think your cover is stunning. It will definitely make the book pop, and that's what marketing is all about.
Beyond that, it's a great painting, and I was very interested to get a peek at your process. You obviously put a lot of thought and work into your art. This sketch is also very cool, but I agree that the other version will appeal to a wider audience.
(Brandon is on his book tour right now—he may still be in his Burbank signing at this minute—so I don't know when he might come here to comment.)
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Hello Dan,
Thank you for coming and talking to us. I don't know about anyone else, but I know that's part of the reason I love EUOL's stuff so much is his interaction with the fans.
I love the alternate cover, but I do think that the cover that is being used is the better one. Would it be possable though to add a bit more to the background because it's kind of dull.
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A bit late for that, Rose. :)
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*sigh* Oh well. I figured if nothing else, it was worth asking, right? Even if I am late.
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A little addition here, if I may. I actually asked for Mr. Dos Santos by name. I'd been following his work for a while, and enjoyed a lot of what Irene had been posting on her blog regarding him. So, when she asked me for my thoughts on a Warbreaker cover, I spoke up and asked for him.
I love this cover. I've always said that I, personally, prefer a cover that is good visually to one that exactly replicates a scene or character from the book. I think this is striking and distinctive, and will really stand out on the shelf.
Excellent work, Dan, and thank you for stopping by to speak with my readers.
Brandon
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I just wanted to say that both versions of the cover would have made me pick up the book :) I like lots of color, shadow, and the lettering would have interested me as well. Thank you Dan for coming and giving us a peek at your other ideas and the thought processes that you use to get where you are going with your art. I love the cover, by the way :D
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Ok, so I'm a little lazy, and busy with exams, papers and cocky wannabe-god-like Profs to do the research, but does anyone here know when can I go BUY a copy of Warbreaker? I have the online copy, but I am DYING to get my hands on a HC!!!
thanks
Xan~
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Ok, so I'm a little lazy, and busy with exams, papers and cocky wannabe-god-like Profs to do the research, but does anyone here know when can I go BUY a copy of Warbreaker? I have the online copy, but I am DYING to get my hands on a HC!!!
thanks
Xan~
Not until next year. They are still going thru edits, I believe.
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You are right Ness, according to Brandon's ticker on his site, he is 95% through the copyedit for Warbreaker :)
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Awesome
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I actually like the mock up you posted, better than what will be the cover. Don't get me wrong, I like both, but...
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I was browsing through here, and saw that there were a LOT of questions regarding my intentions for this cover.
I figured I would register to answer some of them.
Thanks, Dan, for answering all our questions! I think the cover looks great!