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Title: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: EUOL on August 28, 2006, 07:38:21 PM
Here's the link:

http://www.hayakawa-online.co.jp/product/item_search_list.php?keyword_type=2&keyword=sanderson&x=0&y=0

Anyone want to do some translating for us?  Are those two alternate covers, or did the book get printed in two volumes?  Can you order it off of the web page, or is this just the publisher's website?

I really wish I could contact the publisher myself.  Now that I've lost to Scalzi, I have to look toward next year in Japan.  That means getting the Japanese people to read ELANTRIS!
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on August 28, 2006, 07:45:44 PM
Its printed in two parts and you can order it from that site and they sell for around $10 each.

Also those are two very cool covers, very Amano-ish.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on August 28, 2006, 07:52:56 PM
Humm lets see, the full title of Elantris in Japanese is:

Elantris: Sasareta Miya no monogatari

or Elantris: Legend of the Closed City.

Sasareta is  to be caused shut (passive) or Kusarisareta is another possible read as To be Chained.

Miya is metropolis or capital

monogatari is legend, story, tale.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: EUOL on August 28, 2006, 08:12:57 PM
Yes, I like the covers a lot.  They're particularly good compared to some of those around them.  

Is there any contact info for the publisher besides a customer support email or a webmaster email?
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on August 28, 2006, 08:18:25 PM
Amazon's links for them (if you were planning on ordering one I'd suggest from them, even though this is the Japanese site they do have international shipping)

Book 1 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/0a80e90f30c80ea0b9%939605508c05f%90fd06er69%8a9e-N0a/dp/4150204225/sr=8-2/qid=1156806932/ref=sr_1_2/250-4456915-6181058?ie=UTF8&s=gateway)

Book 2 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/0a80e90f30c80ea0b9%939605508c05f%90fd06er69%8a9e-N0b-2/dp/4150204233/sr=8-1/qid=1156806932/ref=sr_1_1/250-4456915-6181058?ie=UTF8&s=gateway)
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on August 28, 2006, 08:33:17 PM
Not that I could find.  There's a phone, fax and street address though.

http://www.hayakawa-online.co.jp/info/company.html
http://www.hayakawa-online.co.jp/info/company_map.html

Wouldn't Joshua have some contact info considering he's the one that got the deal in the first place?
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 28, 2006, 10:05:21 PM
Ha! One would think.

This is sweet. No surprise it's in two parts--they do that a lot. Even to Harry Potter.

Judging from Greg Egan winning the Seiyun award 6 (?) times in a row, I'm thinking that the SF-con-going Japanese fan prefers hard SF over fantasy. And I have no idea what kind of numbers they'll come out in to a Worldcon in their country. We could have very interesting awards next year. Heck, it's a surprise to me that there's no Japanese city gunning for a 2009 bid. ;)
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Bookstore Guy on August 29, 2006, 02:08:06 AM
the cover to the 2nd half is really awesome!  if i could read japanese i would get them...
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Fellfrosch on August 29, 2006, 07:00:26 PM
Those are great covers.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Shrain on August 29, 2006, 08:06:46 PM
I liked the second one most. First time I've seen an Elantrian rendered artistically (Raoden, I'm betting), and I think the representation is snazzy.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: MsFish on August 29, 2006, 11:26:06 PM
Me likes.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Entsuropi on August 30, 2006, 10:02:24 AM
I'll be the voice of dissent and say I don't like those covers.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on September 08, 2006, 05:21:33 PM
Sweet I am so gonna buy them.

Oh and Brandon I could also help you do some translating as well.  
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on September 08, 2006, 05:27:42 PM
eh...He already has it translated, it's called the original version.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on September 08, 2006, 05:28:43 PM
I was talking about other books that might be translated.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on September 08, 2006, 05:32:04 PM
Ahh, well the publisher for that language hires their own translators, EUOL and TOR don't have anything to do with that.  Though, I guess you could contact Hayakawa and see if they're hiring.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on September 08, 2006, 05:33:03 PM
Oh I didn't know that. I had just seen the line in Brandons first post about people wanting to help translate.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on September 08, 2006, 05:43:11 PM
He was asking about the site itself.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: EUOL on September 08, 2006, 10:05:01 PM
Yes, sorry for the confusion.  The site itself was in Japanese, and so I couldn't read anything about the book!

When we sell rights to a book, we sell translation rights. Essentially,  a publisher buys the opportunity to publish the book in a particular language.  So, I don't have anything to do with it beyond saying "yes" and signing a contract.  
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Loryn on September 09, 2006, 02:52:32 AM
Hey Brandon, you don't need any personal serveants on that trip to japan do you?
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on September 09, 2006, 10:07:49 PM
I plan on buying it and reading it in Japanese... so I will let you know how true to the story it is. ^^
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on September 26, 2006, 09:21:36 PM
Here's a review: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/leftofthemiddle/e/052f0d10fca50f18f42fe87209ed9259

It doesn't say much though.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on September 26, 2006, 09:34:01 PM
It's positive at least.  Ookla's right on the content, mostly just a story summery, comments on Scott Card's recommendation and they saying you should read it and the reviewer is looking forward for mistborn.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on November 09, 2006, 05:38:48 PM
Just got my copies, much thanks to my Brother, and I'm liking the interior art a lot.  EUOL, you should see if we can get permission to use them on your website.

The intro Picture of Harathen and the Picture of Sarene at the party are very nice, the art style is pretty much a mix of James Christensen and Yositaka Amano.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on November 10, 2006, 01:39:12 AM
How many interior art pages are there?
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Spriggan on November 10, 2006, 03:45:01 AM
I think book 1 has 5 and book 2 has 6.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on February 23, 2009, 08:35:00 PM
 I haz picturez!

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo-1.jpg)
cover for first book. (This was already posted but meh.)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo2-1.jpg)
The map of Arelon

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo3-1.jpg)
the section 1 image holder
The decrepit Elantris.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo4.jpg)
Sarene
サレーネ
(saw)(rey)(neh) - Japanese pronunciation-

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo5.jpg)
Hrathen
ホラゼン
Dilaf
デイラフ
(hoe)(raw)(zen) - Japanese pronunciation-
(day)(raw)(f) -Japanese pronunciation-

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo6.jpg)
Raoden
ラオデン
Galadon
ガラドン
(Raw)(oh)(den) -Japanese pronunciation-
(gaw)(raw)(doe)(n) -Japanese pronunciation-

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo7.jpg)
I don't remember who did this off the top of my head.
:/  A healing spell done the less

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo8.jpg)
cover for book two

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo9.jpg)
Shaori(sp?)
シャオル
(shaw)(oh)(ru) -Japanese pronunciation-

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo10.jpg)
Section 2 image holder.
I am assuming this is supposed to illustrate the transformation magic they use to disguise themselves.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo11.jpg)
The riot Dilaf starts.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo12.jpg)
Section 3 image holder
Picture of the new Elantris

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo13.jpg)
Raoden
Sarene

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/miyabi_kami_desu/photo14.jpg)
A funeral

That is all.

:]]  I think later tonight if I find time I'll post the English Prologue and the Japanese Prologue (translated) for comparisons.

Also note (Earlier in this topic are some of my first posts ever on TWG  . >>  I was a loser once. ha ha.)


Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on February 23, 2009, 09:19:09 PM
Thanks! Um, could you also type those words in katakana so I can tell what your transliterations are supposed to say? :)
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on February 23, 2009, 09:29:03 PM
Thanks! Um, could you also type those words in katakana so I can tell what your transliterations are supposed to say? :)
Edited.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: SarahG on February 23, 2009, 10:28:27 PM
I was a loser once. ha ha.)

Are you saying this has changed?  (Kidding - TOTALLY kidding!  It was just too good of an opening to pass up.)
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on February 23, 2009, 10:36:17 PM
I was a loser once. ha ha.)

Are you saying this has changed?  (Kidding - TOTALLY kidding!  It was just too good of an opening to pass up.)
OUCH! That one stung. xP
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: SarahG on February 23, 2009, 10:43:30 PM
Sorry, so sorry.  You know I didn't mean it.

I like purple and green too, does that help?
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on February 23, 2009, 10:49:49 PM
I guess. ha ha. xD

Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on February 24, 2009, 12:51:10 AM
Thanks, Miyabi. Are you sure Dilaf is デイラフ (deirafu) and not ディラフ (dirafu)? Also, the one girl's name is just Shaor, so the transliteration fits fine.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on February 24, 2009, 01:04:50 AM
D'oh it is ディラフ

I must have been looking at it funny.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: little wilson on February 24, 2009, 11:09:49 PM
Man, all this katakana is making me want to whip out my Japanese book from 3 years ago....

Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Reaves on February 25, 2009, 09:29:49 PM
Let me get this right....katakana is syllabic, and kanji is in pictures?
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on February 25, 2009, 09:45:17 PM
Hiragana ひらがな and katakana カタカナ are phonetic or syllabic.

Kanji 漢字 is ideographic, each symbol stands for an idea or word.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: LauraOrganaSolo on March 04, 2009, 09:01:53 PM
Maybe I'm just being wapanese but for some reason I love how エラントリス sounds.

I really like their depiction of Hrathen.

Thanks for the pics.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Miyabi on March 05, 2009, 04:28:41 AM
Maybe I'm just being wapanese but for some reason I love how エラントリス sounds.

I really like their depiction of Hrathen.

Thanks for the pics.
I like the way it sounds too.

ah ah.

N/p
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Shaggy on March 08, 2009, 01:52:11 AM
How is everyone getting the Japanese letters/symbols on here??  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on March 08, 2009, 04:34:26 AM
Just type them the same way you type Japanese anywhere else. It doesn't work for you?
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Chaos on March 08, 2009, 08:26:26 AM
Maybe Shaggy means how you type Japanese symbols in the first place.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Shaggy on March 08, 2009, 02:40:02 PM
Yeah, Chaos got it. Do you guys have, like, Japanese keyboards or something? Just wondering.…

And I no idea Japanese was so popular, either!!! :o
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on March 09, 2009, 08:19:24 AM
There are ways to type Japanese phonetically using normal roman letters. Look up "Japanese input method" or "Japanese IME"—how to enable it is different depending on your operating system.
Title: Re: Japanese ELANTRIS
Post by: Pink Bunkadoo on March 09, 2009, 05:54:44 PM
와, 신기하다.