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Title: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Spriggan on April 07, 2005, 09:17:40 AM
Well you may be an "Architect" but I'm cooler boy-o, I'm a Composer which means I'm "attuned to sensory variation in color, line, texture, aroma, flavor, tone-seeing, touching, smelling, tasting, and hearing in harmony".  I don't see you attuned to anything but worrying about failure, while I have "a natural grace of movement".  Ya I rock.

http://keirsey.com/personality/spif.html
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: House of Mustard on April 07, 2005, 10:58:50 AM
Whatever...  You also are a kindred spirit with Cher, which takes away any coolness.

But this is me:  "[Architects] think of themselves as the prime movers who must pit themselves against nature and society in an endless struggle."

Arrogant, perhaps, but cool.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Spriggan on April 07, 2005, 11:02:57 AM
Psh but I've got Mel Brooks which negates any possible harm from Cher.

my "senses [are] keenly tuned to reality" which means the Gnomes liveing in my closet are real and everyone else isn't "tuned" enough to see them.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Fellfrosch on April 07, 2005, 06:10:16 PM
I'm a Teacher, which puts me in with Gorbachev. That explains the birthmark.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on April 07, 2005, 06:52:53 PM
I'm a performer artisan. That makes me a prima donna. I'm in with Ronald Regan and Marilyn Monroe. I rock
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on April 08, 2005, 12:02:40 AM
I'm a counselor Idealist.  

Which makes me .... um a freak of nature?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: stacer on April 08, 2005, 12:16:02 AM
Me too, fuzzy. If I remember right. It's the one that INFJ fits in, at least.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on April 08, 2005, 12:36:01 AM
If we're both INFJ's how is it that you're a Marianne and I'm an Elinor?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on April 08, 2005, 12:41:58 AM
I'm the ideal Idealist.
Go figure.
But not enough
to tell me so.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 08, 2005, 04:00:10 AM
I'm a rational mastermind. Does this mean I'm going to take over the world?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: stacer on April 08, 2005, 11:44:52 AM
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If we're both INFJ's how is it that you're a Marianne and I'm an Elinor?


That is a very good question, for which I have no answer. But I don't think it takes into account how your motivations manifest, just what your motivations are. Perhaps?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 08, 2005, 01:27:53 PM
Hmm.  I'm rational.

Last time I took one of these sorts of personality tests, I think I was borderline INTP/INTJ (architect/mastermind)

So being stuck in the Rational category makes sense (that website wont give me more detail unless I pay for it).



And Old One, seeing as you're a "speaker of undead languages", do you speak Cornish?  Or Manx?  Or modern Hebrew, maybe?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: stacer on April 08, 2005, 01:32:00 PM
I'm also borderline--sometimes I come out as INFP. So perhaps that's where the Elinor/Marianne difference comes in, fuzzy.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 08, 2005, 05:13:23 PM
JadeKnight,

I'm thoroughly tempted to start on Cornish, but it'll have to wait until after law school. Otherwise you got the language family right. I speak Scottish Gadhlig, Welsh, and and Irish Gaeilge. Considering how near extinction Welsh was, I consider it an undead language that is reviving with heavy language necromancy. Irish, however, is undead and is starting to fall apart, despite the power (and lack of understanding) of the language necromancer (the Irish government).

Edited to add that Scottish Gadhlig is rapidly dying out and is predicted to become extinct within the next 50 years. Thus it is undead and beginning to smell.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: stacer on April 08, 2005, 06:24:23 PM
Well, depends on where you go. There are some serious movements in the Highlands to bring it back. About the only thing I can say in Gadhlig is "Co as a ha siv" which is probably spelled atrociously. I tried to learn it a while back--joined the Highland club at BYU the year before joining TLE, and there was a guy in the club who taught it once a week. Highland Society pretty much broke down the next year, so I was free to join TLE.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on April 08, 2005, 09:15:24 PM
I just remember the coed jokes from JadeKnight freshman year.

Still have the textbook and the dictionary for the welsh class I never took, though.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 08, 2005, 09:50:38 PM
Oooh.  Old One, do you ever get on AIM?  I tried and failed to learn Gàidhlig, but I know a fair bit of conversational Welsh.  I'm a Celtophile (with an interest in minority languages, to boot), but have very limited exposure to speakers of Celtic languages.

I consider "Undead" languages only those languages which have died officially and been resurrected (with new native speakers).  Manx lost its last native speaker in the 70s but now has new (very young) ones.  Cornish died in the 1700s but is now back (by some miracle).  Welsh is thriving, and never has fallen bellow a few hundred thousand speakers, to my knowledge.

Another minority language I pay attention to, Jersey Norman (Jèrriais) is very close to dying, as well.  It has less than 4,000 speakers, I believe, though there are also speakers of other Norman dialects on the other islands and mainland France.  I think Jersey Norman is generally considered the dominant dialect now, however.


... I had almost forgotten about Coed.  I write my name in Chinese now as "Sen lin" (Forest), though, so it goes on.  =]
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 10, 2005, 12:11:12 AM
Gaidhlig is a rapidly dying language. If anyone cares. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2755411.stm) But  this (http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=267622005) makes me all kinds of happy.

I'm actually not on AIM, JK. Someday I'll have to fix that.

Ciamar a tha thu?

Mise, gu maith.

;D

Donnaidh (my old teacher) would be horrified.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 10, 2005, 12:12:35 AM
Wait. Dictionary? Fuzzy, are you looking for a nice home for that Welsh dictionary? (I've been coveting a Dwelly's for years).
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on April 10, 2005, 12:20:55 AM
I'm sure not using it.  And I think I even know exactly where it is.

*rumages around*

Hippocrene Standard, Welsh-English English-Welsh dictionary.

Yours if you want it.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 10, 2005, 12:28:20 AM
I want. Do you have my phone # or email address to arrange it?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on April 10, 2005, 12:30:16 AM
No, but I know where you live.   ;D

PM me.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 10, 2005, 12:35:48 AM
PM sent (now that I've hijacked the thread).  ;D
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 10, 2005, 12:47:46 AM
Tha gu math, tapadh leat.

And, umm, yeah.  That's about the end of my Scots.  (Not really, but I can't remember anything else that I know that I could ask you).

But yeah, get AIM.  Also, there's a pretty decent Welsh dictionary online.  =]

http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/fun/welsh/LexiconForms.html
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: stacer on April 10, 2005, 12:48:59 AM
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Ciamar a tha thu?

Mise, gu maith.

;D

Donnaidh (my old teacher) would be horrified.


:o !!!

I think we had the same teacher. Blond, lived in the Hebrides for a few years? Did you learn from him at BYU? We may have taken his class together! If it was the class through the Highland club.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Skar on April 11, 2005, 12:14:29 AM
There were british troops guarding the entrances to Ali Al Salem air base in Kuwait while we were all waiting to go north into Iraq.  Whenever my team and I would drive through we'd yell, "Erin go bragh" at them.  From the dirty looks some of them gave us I suspect they'd heard it before.  Does it really mean "Long live ireland" ?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on April 11, 2005, 12:45:59 AM
That seems like a peculiar thing to do.  Did they ever try to similarly taunt you?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Entsuropi on April 11, 2005, 09:20:53 AM
Not surprised they gave you dirty looks, dirty colonial savage.

Welsh is fairly strong on the visual side at least - i've been there every so often, dual language everything. Plus they tend to swear at english users.

And i've not heard a single word of scots in real life. Though when I looked up scotland on wikipedia it said there is actually 2 or 3 scottish languages other than English - a highlands, a lowlands and an islands language. My dad speaks the Aberdeenshire dialect though - it's a mix of german and english. Named 'Dorric' I believe. It's long dead, died back in the 50's or so, and i've never learned any of it.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Skar on April 11, 2005, 12:38:48 PM
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That seems like a peculiar thing to do.  Did they ever try to similarly taunt you?


Nope.  You should be appraised, however, of the fact that of our twelve grandparents (three guys on my team) ten had names like Mitchell, Ryan, Kerr, and May.  Bloody English wankers.   ;)

But primarily it was amusing.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 11, 2005, 07:31:10 PM
Apart from English and Gàidhlig, I know that Scots is also spoken in Scotland, being a language descended from Old English but having evolved quite differently:

http://www.scots-online.org/
("Scots for thaim that's efter lairnin Scots or for thaim that haes it an is efter enjoyin hit.")
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 13, 2005, 09:52:33 PM
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There were british troops guarding the entrances to Ali Al Salem air base in Kuwait while we were all waiting to go north into Iraq.  Whenever my team and I would drive through we'd yell, "Erin go bragh" at them.  From the dirty looks some of them gave us I suspect they'd heard it before.  Does it really mean "Long live ireland" ?


Well, if they're British troops I don't blame them for giving you the evil eye. They were probably Scotsmen you were hailin' Ireland at. Ireland is (mostly) its own republic.

And Erin go braith roughly means Ireland Forever. Very roughly.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 13, 2005, 09:56:23 PM
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:o !!!

I think we had the same teacher. Blond, lived in the Hebrides for a few years? Did you learn from him at BYU? We may have taken his class together! If it was the class through the Highland club.


I took Gaidhlig from an older guy who grew up and went to university on the Isle of Skye. It was in Southern Cal. about 15-ish years ago, so unless the Donnaidh you're thinking of was also selling subscriptions to a home-made Gaidhlig learning aid called the Gaelic Echo, I doubt he's the same guy. Donnaidh is not that uncommon of a name.

It woulda bin cool, tha. I miss the Highland Club. Especially the piper that used to walk around.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 14, 2005, 12:41:13 PM
I was president of the local Celtic Club in High School.

That was good fun.

Does BYU have any sort of Celtic Association?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Skar on April 14, 2005, 12:48:53 PM
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Well, if they're British troops I don't blame them for giving you the evil eye. They were probably Scotsmen you were hailin' Ireland at. Ireland is (mostly) its own republic.


We certainly didn't expect them to be happy about it.
 Perhaps you're unaware that many British Army troops, no matter their origin, serve in the troubled areas as shock troops on raids against the IRA and the like.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Entsuropi on April 14, 2005, 07:56:45 PM
One of the reasons British troops are held to be the best at urban combat and dealing with the public is their time spent in Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on April 15, 2005, 03:39:00 AM
Skar, I am very aware of the British troops' association with the IRA.

Consider this thread hijacked.

[Insert evil Irish laughter here]
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Entsuropi on April 15, 2005, 08:13:30 AM
/me oppresses
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: Skar on April 15, 2005, 11:50:44 AM
?
Title: Re: Comments to Rob's bloviating
Post by: The Jade Knight on April 15, 2005, 06:54:36 PM
I think the discussion on undead languages was more interesting.  =þ