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Games => Table-Top Games => Topic started by: Entsuropi on March 10, 2003, 07:26:42 PM
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fun fun. i got hold of the deluxe starter box for Marvel HC. I now own a bunch of sweet models. the spiderman and wolverine models give many GW models a run for their money. i also managed to get a rookie firelord in a booster, who looks like a turbo charged nutter. ive been trying to figure out two 200 pt teams, so me and a mate can play. i can up with:
Wolverine (R)
Spiderman(E)
Scarlet Witch(R)
Wasp (R)
SHIELD Medic (V)
vs
Hobgoblin (V)
Boomerang (E)
Electra (E)
Kingpin (R)
Sabretooth (E)
I cant help shake the feeling that the first team is more powerful, and will give its player a big advantage. opinions anyone?
Oh, and i like the co-incidences - i buy HC, log onto the website and see a article for HC. good timing.
Other thoughts :
1) i should really like, go read some comics. i have read a grand total of one, which was the free issue of warhammer monthly they gave free with WD years ago. oh and some beano comics when i was 7, but they dont really count. it would be nice to know who the bleeding heck wolfsbane, boomerang and, for that matter, SHIELD are. i only recognise the electra and kingpin names because of the release of the Daredevil.
2) the Marvel HC Sentinal model SUXXORS. The equivelent DC model, the big yellow thing, looks much better.
3) i really really like how they did fliers. it is so comicbookish, the way they work. great stuff.
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SHIELD is a military organization (first American, now multi-national I believe). Imagine them as a cross between the CIA and a more visible version of Special Forces commandos. Their main job, as you can imagine, is fighting the minions of supervillains. At one point back in the 60s/70s, they had a giant flying aircraft carrier, kind of like the one in Tailspin (if they have that in England). I'm sure there's much more to say, but I can't think of it.
As for your initiation into Heroclix, congratulations! The models, as you say, can often get up into GW-level coolness, but the painting on most is still nowhere near that good. Still, on uniques especially, the painting is a lot better than you'd expect from mass-produced inch-high models.
Your teams...I think you may be right, the first could be a little better. I'm not acquainted with all of the versions of the figures that your using, but Probability Control and a medic could easily put that team over the top. On the other hand, the Experienced Sabretooth is quite probably the best deal for the points, and definitely your best fighter. Spiderman is a hard figure to use, and I'm not sure I have him figured out myself yet, so I can't help you there.
And yes, all versions of Firelord could be described as "turbo charged nutters." His numbers and powers drop off very quickly, but that's not necessarily bad if you use him right--a medic can heal him pretty easily, since his defense drops so low.
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Spiderman is a hard figure to use, and I'm not sure I have him figured out myself yet, so I can't help you there.
well, at a guess id say Spiderman is awesome at taking down fliers : he has ranged, is good damage, can leap and so can stop them simply sitting on buildings and shooting and later down on teh dial he gets flurry and outwit : wang off soaring and simply punch the flier to death. TBH he also looks like a great solo model : he can go anywhere and kill anything just about. his speed is high as well, so hes great for hunting down shooters and fliers who are giving you the gyp.
At 82 points he takes a hefty chunk out of your points tho, so using him simply as another front line basher might be a horrible waste. Not great for small games then.
As for your initiation into Heroclix, congratulations! The models, as you say, can often get up into GW-level coolness, but the painting on most is still nowhere near that good. Still, on uniques especially, the painting is a lot better than you'd expect from mass-produced inch-high models.
The beauty is that if i really dont like a paint job i can simply whip out my GW paints and do it myself :) Im actually quite tempted to do that before i go to any tournaments, simply so my models have the edge appearance wise.
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Well, Xplosion comes out next week (Monday, with any luck) and our local store is planning a Sealed Booster tournament. Stupid Mustard is too stupid to go, though. Also, Wizkids finally announced the next DC set: Cosmic Justice. Hooray!
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/dc/products.asp?cid=37545
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My roomate, steve, is intrested in the clix games. he has been sence Magenight came out, but donsen't want to pay for them with out playing it first. Maybe sometime for like a hour or two we can get together and you can show us how to play?
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Gladly. Which interests him more, superheroes or fantasy battles? Or we could play both--it's not like I hate playing games or anything.
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I would like to say that Stupid Mustard is neither too stupid or too sissy to attend. Instead, he is spending his Monday evening with his wife and young child in wholesome family bonding.
However, I'm more than willing to begin the big Patriot City campaign Saturday.
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If Erin plays, you can do some wholesome family bonding at the tournament...unless you get paired against each other and lose that lovin' feelin'.
By the way, there's problems with saturday. But since you didn't get on IM all day yesterday, and since I find speaking with you directly to be distasteful, I haven't been able to tell you yet.
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Pardon me for not getting on IM. The dillemma that I run into occasionally is that I can't simply play on the internet fifteen hours a day, unlike some people I know.
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Ah... brotherly love. It's a beautiful thing.
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I'll get back to you when i see him next. Week ends are better for you right?
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In general yes, though this weekend is filled up.
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Well. Earlier this week i bought the Indoor Scenery pack for heroclix. it had 3 contents:
a double sided map. nothing special - although lots of corridors made for interesting brawls.
4 scenery pieces. quite nice.
the scenario cards.
The scenario cards are pap. no two ways about it. they would be good, if wizkids had bothered to put them through quality control. some of the options failed to list what points you got for them, and at least 3 boxes had a question, and a "no" answer - but no "yes" answer to follow. huh?
Me & my opponent went back to a straight forward brawl. With the veteran hulk i got :)
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Well, it seems I have ventured out and gotten meself 4 booster packs of "Clobberin' Time." And now to tell you what I got so I can hopefully get some feedback on whats good and what isn't.
Dr. Doom (E & R)
Thing (E)
Black Cat (V)
Mandroid Armor (2 R's)
Skrull Commando (R)
A.I.M. Agent (R & V)
Toad (R)
Logan (R & V)
Black Widow (V)
Yellowjacket (2 R's)
Blastaar (R)
So that's what I got today. If anyone has any comment of which ones are useful and which ones I can give my dog, just let me know.
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Veteran Logan is definitely the prize in that batch, though both Dr. Dooms and the Experienced Thing are pretty good. Blastaar is also a good figure, because he can fill two roles (ranged and melee) depending on where he is in the dial. You got the wrong black cat, unfortunately--Experienced is better thanks to the Spider-man team ability--but don't despair, as the Veteran is still a great piece. The AIM agents aren't bad, given the price, and I've recently become a little more forgiving of Telekinesis so the Mandroids aren't a total loss. The only bad figure you pulled, to be honest, is the Skrull Commando; everything else is pretty solid.
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With these boosters came a nice little piece of paper outlining Clobberin' Time's 7 new powers. They are: Hypersonic Speed, Plasticity, Poison, Psychic Blast, Willpower, Mastermind, and Perplex. Now for me to find some people to play with and the such.
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Yeah, I forgot those little papers came in the Clobberin' Time boxes. They're not in Xplosion, though, so hold on to them.
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Is it just me or are the Heroclix expansions coming a little too fast? I haven't been buying much, but it seemed like Xplosion came out just on the heels of Clobberin' Time. At the same time their Mage Knight expansions have slowed down. Hmmmm...
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Mage Knight is coming at a pretty good clip. They've had two expansions since Christmas (if you count Dungeons) and they've got another one coming up in May.
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I always count Dungeons as a seperate game and probably shouldn't. Yeah, Uprising will be out before we know it...
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It's about freaking time: http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/dc/products.asp?cid=37864
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Yeah! I got two boosters of Clobberin' Time today, lets take a gander at what Gemm was given shall we?
Doombot (R)
Thing (V)
Avalanche (E)
Mandroid Armor (E)
Human Torch (E)
Skrull Commando (V)
Medusa (U)
Spider-Man (U)
The unique Spider-Man is by far my favorite one. I'm also quite surprised I pick a unique out of the two boxes I picked up(one from each). The Doombot I'm a bit perplexed on, as I have no idea what good that is. The Human Torch seems like he could be useful, and with Medusa having the Fantastic Four logo thingy then there could be use there as well.
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You got a great set of Fantastic Four, though in practice I've never been able to use Medusa effectively--she takes some finesse, and I still haven't figured it out. The Doombot is very cool for a number of reasons, though you need the right team in order to really take advantage of them. The key is the wild card team ability: with the right backup, the Doombot becomes a taxi that can move for free, give SHIELD boosts, give Outwit, and hide in hindering terrain--and that's all in one turn. Throw in some other stuff and it can raise attack values, heal itself or others, attack for free, dodge enemy fire, and taxi up to 8 people at once (after the Green Lantern shows up this summer). In all it's a very nice figure.